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  • DodgersGirl
    DodgersGirl Member Posts: 2,382
    edited November 2017

    sweetsmilefh-- so sorry you are having these reactions. I wonder if it has anything to do with lungs getting some rads??

    I haven't experienced your SE. .. but sure hope it gets better for you.

  • LoJo100
    LoJo100 Member Posts: 123
    edited November 2017

    DodgersGirl - I'm so sorry to hear about your reaction today! I don't know about radiation, but of course, there is definitely a first time for everything! I can tell you that I got triggered during chemo (so much so, I had to have my chemo 'cocktail' switched half-way through). I have asthma and the allergic reaction caused horrible hives all over my body, and triggered my asthma quite a bit. I hadn't needed an inhaler that much in years! Oh, and yes, my sensitivity to fragrances went way up during chemo, and is still up, but not as bad as it was during chemo.

    So, all of that is to say, I feel for you, and hope that it gets better as you go. Did you have chemo before radiation? I don't see it in your profile. If you did, you may also be having a reaction to the chemo (it can stay in our tissue for weeks afterwards... my allergic reaction occurred 10 days after a treatment, and I will have hive sensitivity for 2-3 couple months PFC (I'm 6 weeks PFC and still have hives show up if I don't stay on top of them with Zyrtec), most likely.

    I hope the two days off this weekend helps you!

  • sweetsmilefh
    sweetsmilefh Member Posts: 14
    edited November 2017

    DodgersGirl - I hadn't thought of that possibility. I do the Deep Inspiration Breath Holds which inflate my lungs, to protect my heart. Maybe I should be more concerned with protecting my lungs! Will discuss that with the RO this coming week.

    LoJo100 - No, I haven't had chemo. I'm sorry to hear that you have had such serious allergic reactions too. Well, at least we are raising the consciousness of our medical professionals about the various SE's, even the outlying ones that are rare. And we are digging into the deepest reserves of our grit and determination to get through all this "stuff."

    The good news is that I have just one more week to go - my boost starts on Monday, and my breast looks like a crime scene, all marked up with surgical markers, "X" marks the spots and tagaderm transparent circular stickies all over. Can't wait until this is all over!

    Ladies, wishing you all a restful, calm weekend.

  • Castigame
    Castigame Member Posts: 752
    edited November 2017

    I don't think scabs from bolus. By the time rads ended there were plenty of lotion applied and rubbing was not avoidable especially armpit. The area was small probably two dimes together but the rawness was nerving for me. And two blisters appeared after zaps were done was about the same way. Too much moisturizer. Totally by accident forgot to moisturize for several hrs. Next thing happened was scabbed area. Since the area became dry, no nerving when I moved. Everyone is different. At the end of the day, no matter how well or bad you fare during radiation, rad scars will flare up one last time for about 2 wks. Someone who was lower stage than I was said two wks. I thought it would take 3 or 4 wks for me. On day 14, I got up and 99.99% of pain was gone. Even swelling from rads was gone.


  • 53nancy
    53nancy Member Posts: 497
    edited November 2017

    i have been reading all the posts and don't know how to start my questions. I am in Manitoba, Canada. Since the end of April, needle biopsy came back benign for microcalcifications, excisional biopsy turned into lumpectomy, and I received triple negative status in September. Since then I had SN biopsy, body scan, chest-abdomen-pelvic scan and they are all clear. I refused chemo. I have an MRI tomorrow morning at 7:30. RADS start November 20, for 16 treatments. I was so tired when I saw RO this week that I know I missed a lot. I remembered during the night that he said full breast radiation. I don't know what to expect. I know I will be on my back but don't know how it works. Is my lung at risk? What are green tea pads? Can I use green tea bags? Has anyone used essential oils during treatmen? Antioxidants? I've been told not to. I would be so thankful for help and advice.

  • DodgersGirl
    DodgersGirl Member Posts: 2,382
    edited November 2017

    53nancy-- green tea pads was a suggested posted by llamalady in the May rads thread and again in the Aug rads thread.

    Every other day steep 2 green tea bags in 5 oz of boiling water. Steep for at least 30 mins. Squeeze out the tea bags to get all the tannins out of the tea bags. Store in refrigerator.

    Then 3 times a day ( one time being in the dressing room right after rads) take 3 cotton pads soaked in the green tea and one at a time run the pad over the radiated area. Repeat 2 more times with each of the remaining pads.

    Llamalady had great results with this. Said her pink skin returned to normal color right there in dressing room. And that the cotton pads were warm as if they were pulling heat off her skin.

    I am not pink yet (10 sessions done) but do feel the warmth in the cotton pads which started at about session 8.

    My RO gave me the ok to try it so I am. I take a small lock and lock container with me with tea in it along with 3 pads. I apply right after treatment ( which is in the morning for me) and then again 2 more times during the day.

    As far as rads themselves, I am too early in my treatments to know how sore the area will become. Expect to see affects of rads starting next week. Sigh

    Rads themselves: I arrive at my cancer center and check in, then head to the dressing area. Take a gown and take off everything from waist up. Then wait in a ladies only waiting area. Once called, I walk back to the machine. I lay flat on the metal table (the a cushion under my knees) and remove the gown to expose the area to be radiated. My arms are over my head (in a mold made just for me .. this allows me to relax my arms but keeps me in the expected position for each rad session) and my head turned away from the side being radiated Rad treatments last about 5-7 mins.

    Get dressed and go home

  • lifechoices2017
    lifechoices2017 Member Posts: 242
    edited November 2017

    Dodgersgirl Thank You! I think after my appts this week I'll be purchasing some green tea, aquaphor, miaderm and radx...lol...seerms to be the going 'preferred' treatments...

  • DodgersGirl
    DodgersGirl Member Posts: 2,382
    edited November 2017

    I also found Tom's natural deodorant at Walmart this morning for $4.27. No aluminum, all natural

  • lifechoices2017
    lifechoices2017 Member Posts: 242
    edited November 2017

    THANKS! I found the Crystal yesterday with the cancer ribbon...but I'll look for the Toms!

    Thanks much for sharing. It's greatly appreciated. I'm sure as my rads begin I'll gave more questions. I'm gonna be glued to these posts.

  • pink_is_my_colour
    pink_is_my_colour Member Posts: 308
    edited November 2017

    6 out of 20 done! By end of next week I'll be half way through. Can't believe how fast it goes. So far no reactions. Fingers crossed that it stays that way. Been doing my arm exercises twice a day. Not really sure if it helps or not. Although I do feel a tightness in the muscles in my chest which could be from the exercises or the radiation. My arm muscles above my head seem to be able to make it through 25 minutes before starting to feel strained.

    When tech asked me what I had planned for the weekend, I said, no radiation.

  • PauletteK
    PauletteK Member Posts: 2,205
    edited November 2017

    DodgersGirl- I'm here lurking and hopefully I get some good tips in advance. I don't think I would start my radiation until mid December by then most people in his thread will be done. Then I will ask you for good advice.


    😀😀


  • DodgersGirl
    DodgersGirl Member Posts: 2,382
    edited November 2017

    paulettek-- I hope to be finished with rads on 11/30....then continuing rad symptoms for 2 weeks so I should have an idea what all I will experience before you start your rads.

  • Limonia
    Limonia Member Posts: 53
    edited November 2017

    Hi everyone, hope you had a good weekend!


    I would love to hear from you - i completed 8/25 friday and even from #2 tx the area under my arm and on my side has been getting red and tender, and the skin feels tighter. I'm also reddish near my neck. I'm using cream 3x per day and very concerned that the redness has started so early. Your comments welcome!


    53nancy - If you can, bring someone to your appts, or take notes or record it. It's really hard to remember anything they say! In terns of what to expect (like the coverage area), the impact on your lungs, etc, your doctor should have the best answers. You can ask them to show you the area that will receive the radiation. I have found the princess margaret mini videos info on radiation very helpful. Other hospitals will have different admin approaches, etc, but it should give you an idea of what to expect and you can inform your questions to your doctor: Scroll down for the videos:


    http://www.uhn.ca/PrincessMargaret/PatientsFamilie...


    All doctors could be different re: oils, etc so you would want to ask them. I was informed to not use any oils on the affected area - only water based moisturizers. Also advised to not use antioxidants as they do not want anything interfering in the radiation which is supposed to impact. Your local doctor/nurses, etc can answer further re: your concerns! :-)




  • DodgersGirl
    DodgersGirl Member Posts: 2,382
    edited November 2017

    Pink is my colour-- glad to read you are doing well so far with your rad treatments.

    Hope the 2nd half of your treatments are also uneventful!

    11 of 28 for me this morning. I will be halfway done on Thursday.

    Sure enjoy my weekends off and am sure everyone here does too!

    Good luck this week everyone!!!

  • Limonia
    Limonia Member Posts: 53
    edited November 2017

    wish it was second half ! (lol pink is your colour btw :-) ) - I think I made it unclear! I have 25 treatments and just completed #8. From the second treatment 2/25 it started becoming pink and tender - my understanding is that most people start having reactions a couple of weeks in, not so soon!


    You're almost halfway there - that's amazing!

  • MCOlivia
    MCOlivia Member Posts: 27
    edited November 2017

    catlady - so sorry for your losses. It’s been a tough ear, but I’m sure you are stronger than ever. My prayers go out to you and family. Please take good care of yourself!

  • catlady72
    catlady72 Member Posts: 35
    edited November 2017

    @LoJo: Glad I'm not alone in the "flashing" department. I've read that if you have really bad hot flashes then the chances of cancer returning are actually LESS...for whatever that is worth. Mine aren't horrible. I'm also so tempted to do the same with my hair, which seems a shame after the money I spent to try to keep so much of it! The new growth is very soft and fuzzy so I may wait until it is about an inch or so before I consider cutting the rest of my hair to match it.

    @Mandeola: I feel like I'm getting a little bit of itching going on myself right now...we'll see what happens after I resume treatments this week though.

    @sweetsmilefh: Wow that is a pretty crazy experience...and scary!

    @DodgersGirl: Thanks for the green tea information...I was wondering about that also. I'm gonna hold off for now. You also pretty much gave a rundown of exactly how my treatments go every day, except I don't have a ladies only waiting room. Most of the time it's just me in there anyway, but occasionally there is a guy there who must be on the same schedule as me, either finishing up or waiting. Last week we were waiting at the same time to be taken back, but I went back first. It is pretty quick and easy though, which most people are surprised to hear and you really don't feel anything at all.

    @pink_is_my_colour: Here's to reaching the halfway point soon! I'm just over that hump myself, so hope I can coast through the last 13 treatments!

    @PauletteK: Good look to you next month!

    @MCOlivia: Thanks for your kind words. Yeah I can't even begin to explain this year to anybody, though most people I know IRL are aware of it. I've been to 6 funerals since Feburary (mom, MIL, good friend's father, best friend's father, uncle, and grand uncle) and am navigation new territory not only with my diagnosis but also dealing with my father who started dating somebody about two months after my mother's death. Definitely has changed me in many ways.

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    So I've been lotioning and oiling a lot this weekend since my skin is definitely becoming more tender. I'm sure once this week completes it will probably get more tender. I see my rad oncologist every Tuesday after treatment, so we'll see what she says this week. Last time I saw her was actually last Monday, and she was already mentioning the use of cold compresses for me even though I hadn't been complaining at all. I guess she knew it was coming.

    Ready to get this week done!




  • pink_is_my_colour
    pink_is_my_colour Member Posts: 308
    edited November 2017

    Had treatment # 7 today and noticed a tiny bit of pink showed up but disappeared within two hours. Skin feels a bit tender. Kind of like when you get a mild sunburn.

  • DodgersGirl
    DodgersGirl Member Posts: 2,382
    edited November 2017

    had #11 of 28 today then a meeting with RO. I sense that he really doesn't want to tell me about things that may be coming as far as rad treatments. I asked him about blistering and peeling. He then did say it will be uncomfortable for a bit, especially in the under arm area but that it is his job to make sure I get the treatments I need while working to minimize the SE. And he finished with whatever happens, it is usually gone 2 weeks after rads.

    So I am now armed with the belief that by Dec 14th my rad SEswill be behind me.

    Hoping we all get thru this with as little discomfort as possible.

  • LoJo100
    LoJo100 Member Posts: 123
    edited November 2017

    DodgersGirl - He is right about the underarm. It is where I have most discomfort, and it really started on Friday (which was treatment #25/28). Today when I put my arms above my head for treatment it felt like a bad sunburn under my arms (dry and a bit painful). I do have one very little blister that is actually looking a little better already. I just keep putting my Miaderm on, and it really helps a lot. I can't put it on before treatment, which is why the skin felt a bit worse putting my arms over my head.

    I only have two more treatments left, yay! If this is the extent of the SE's, it is totally manageable and livable. I am a bit more tired, but it still doesn't really interfere with my day. Just go to bed a bit earlier than I normally would. Still walking every day, seeing friends and working. I even wear my bra/prosthesis with no major issue.

    I do look burnt to a crisp, but it feels okay, overall. The very red look I have now didn't really appear until late last week. It was pink by week three, but week five it really darkened.

    I've heard the same about healing pretty quickly once it is over, and that I should see improvement by the two week mark after the last treatment.

    Hang in there everyone!!

    -LoJo

  • Teach70
    Teach70 Member Posts: 64
    edited November 2017

    I am now down to single digits with rads!!!! 9 to go! Still a little pink but overall it is good. I am tired but it is manageable. Best wishes to all!!!

  • DodgersGirl
    DodgersGirl Member Posts: 2,382
    edited November 2017

    Teach70-- that is such good news!! Almost done..wow! Hope the SEs get better quickly for you.

  • lifechoices2017
    lifechoices2017 Member Posts: 242
    edited November 2017

    I read these post and realize that I'm in the midst of some very strong people! It's like we need a table of contents for ailments, side effects, skin reaction, etc... but I must say each tidbit of info is very helpful. Met with my MO today; no chemo..but will take tamox once rads are done. I meet my RO Thurs so I'll know more on that at that time. One thing for sure I'll be well supplied with lotions and creams ... and tea for the journey. Thanks to all for sharing, it's greatly appreciated. Continued prayers....

  • Teach70
    Teach70 Member Posts: 64
    edited November 2017

    Good morning! Has anyone developed an itchy rash? I finished treatment 21/30 yesterday and woke up with an itchy rash on the top part of my breast near my cleavage. I am a little disappointed because I have been doing so well. I had no SE until the middle of week 3. I applied hydrocortisone cream along with my Miaderm this morning. I hope it helps. I just saw my RO after treatment yesterdayand all was well. Now this popped up!

  • FelineMum
    FelineMum Member Posts: 141
    edited November 2017

    Grrr. Feeling so frustrated. I've had two simulations that couldn't be finished because of my non-cancer side temporary expander. I got it completely deflated the day after last week's attempt (partial deflation as directed after 1st attempt) and made a new appointment. Someone double-booked that appointment slot and I got booted from it. There are only a few appointment times a week for simulations and I have a hectic schedule. I also live an hour from the radiation center. I can't just cancel everything else because of a screw-up. My body has other health issues that I refuse to ignore. And after so many delays, I don't want to keep delaying starting rads.

    It also gives me zero confidence in the rads staff when something like scheduling can't be done correctly (not first time this has happened).

  • DodgersGirl
    DodgersGirl Member Posts: 2,382
    edited November 2017

    FelineMum-- so sorry you are experiencing such troubles with scheduling. I hate how we are treated when it comes to appointments... forgotten, not listened to, doctor's offices failing to follow thru and make appointments.

    I sure hope they get this fixed for you ASA

  • DodgersGirl
    DodgersGirl Member Posts: 2,382
    edited November 2017

    Teach70-- I don't have an answer to your rash question but have read others mentioning a rash and getting rx from RO's office.

    I hope the rash is short lived

  • lifechoices2017
    lifechoices2017 Member Posts: 242
    edited November 2017

    question for all...MIADERM! im seeing great reviews on amazon...do you use the kind with lidocaine? and did you use the soap? or just the lotion?

    Thanks,

  • lifechoices2017
    lifechoices2017 Member Posts: 242
    edited November 2017

    I also saw this on one of the reviews:

    (MIADERM) I like this product, although I really needed only three tubes for my treatment period of 5 weeks. Treating the radiated area with chamomile teabags worked really well when the skin was burned (not just red). I used both, as well as silver oxide.

    I bought Miaderm for my wife who just started her radiation treatment and she was able to continue though 5 weeks of therapy without a lapse of treatment. I was surprised when the Oncologist and the Technician was not aware of the product. Now they do! They were only recommending aloe vera before - no longer ! My wife gave another patient a tube of Miaderm and for her it made a world of difference in the recovery period after her therapy. A bit pricey - But in our opinion worth every drop!

  • Teach70
    Teach70 Member Posts: 64
    edited November 2017

    I use the plain without the lidocaine. Although, it would possibly help if you would need numbing from mild pain or irritation. I haven’t tried the soap, but I have seen people on here that do use it. I just started my second tube after finishing week 4. 2 will be enough for me.

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