Starting chemo August 2017 - would love some moral support!

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  • Cherry-sw
    Cherry-sw Member Posts: 997
    edited October 2017

    Willow I have been told in my clinic that there is no scientific that either icing or any supplements can prevent neuropathy, but the nurse said that their own experience was that adding B6 during the infusion helped. But mine was not considered any severe and not I has btw stopped, knock on wood. I have though done both mittens and socks, the clinic offers branded Taxotere stuff. By the end of the infusion they were not very cold so for an infusion that lasts few hours one had to change several times. About being in my age, well, we all deserve to live, nobody wants to go like this at any age but having small children makes it not difficult, you get devastated at a bear thought, that is true. I have one in university and even if I know she is still young I feel that I am done here at least with bringing her up, she is even though still young but already an adult, the youngest is just my heart bleeds, I wish she could be older. Before I always told to myself when I looked at her please stop growing up, no I am only saying do grow up. Thank you for your kind words. I am not alone, as much as I hate this, there plenty of us out there having to deal with it meanwhile also having small children to think about.

    Cherry

  • PauletteK
    PauletteK Member Posts: 2,205
    edited October 2017

    Cherry, reading what you said above, broke my heart. Life is so not fair and I’m speechless. All I can say is will pray for you and no bad news in the future. 🙏🙏🙏


  • Cherry-sw
    Cherry-sw Member Posts: 997
    edited October 2017

    Thank you, Paulette

  • SusanGA
    SusanGA Member Posts: 147
    edited October 2017

    thanks for all the good wishes. I can’t tell you how good it feels to be finished. Not to be a Debbie Diwner but is anyone having trouble with very weak legs? I feel as though I could use a walker. I can’t seem that kneel very well. Nausea was the worst but left quicker. Thank God. I hope you all join on Facebook. Somehow it is an easier format for me addled brain.

    Guys I do have some neuropathy but I truly believe that it is mitigated due to icing. I don’t think icing can hurt. MSKCC has it in their website. Good luck to all.

  • PauletteK
    PauletteK Member Posts: 2,205
    edited October 2017

    Hi Susan, I didn’t know your neuropathy was that bad before until now. I hope you will get better soon. It’s great that you have reached to the end of the tunnel.

  • rdeesides
    rdeesides Member Posts: 459
    edited October 2017

    For those of you that got neuropathy with Taxol, when did you start noticing it?


  • PauletteK
    PauletteK Member Posts: 2,205
    edited October 2017

    I noticed after my #5 infusion. The first 4 I got a little numbness but not bad at all.

  • rdeesides
    rdeesides Member Posts: 459
    edited October 2017

    Ok Im only on #3. Oh boy, something to look forward too

  • PauletteK
    PauletteK Member Posts: 2,205
    edited October 2017

    Everyone are different you might not have any. Think positive. Cherry and other don’t have any neuropathy.

  • Cherry-sw
    Cherry-sw Member Posts: 997
    edited October 2017

    rdeesides, I got some tingling in the fingers right after my second Taxol but it was numbness and went away. Yesterday during my 11th infusion I got numbness in 6 fingertips, it got better but still I can feel it.

  • rdeesides
    rdeesides Member Posts: 459
    edited October 2017

    Ok I’m hoping I have good luck on the neuropathy, like Cherry. I’m not icing because my doctor said there was no point and I also wasn’t dure I could manage it for the whole hour of the infusion. So far so good, but I have 9 to go

  • PauletteK
    PauletteK Member Posts: 2,205
    edited October 2017

    rdeeside- can you image I do icing for three hours long? I have reaction on taxol so my infusion time is 3 hours long. 😭😭😭😭

  • KByTheLake
    KByTheLake Member Posts: 52
    edited October 2017

    It’s been a week since my finalTC treatment. I expected to be feeling much better by now but I’m pretty weak and tired. I think I conveniently forgot that side effects are cumulative. So maybe I’ll have another week of feeling like this. I’m obviously feeling somewhat better because I find myself being bored but not having enough energy to do anything to relieve my boredom. And I’m super cranky! I know this will be short-lived but I’m not being very patient at all. My appetite is still non-existent so I’m sure that is making everything a little harder. I’ve lost about 20 pounds throught treatment. Honestly, I hope I can keep it off once I get back to normal and perhaps lose about 20 more before my mastectomy in April

    I hope everyone is hanging in here—and the good news is that we’re all moving closer to saying goodbye to all this cancer stuff!

    Karen

  • Travel_Girl
    Travel_Girl Member Posts: 210
    edited October 2017

    KB - ditto!! This one is hitting me harder and I am haven't snapped back yet -- everyday gets a little better ... just super tired. Yes, I think it is going take me another week -- I just want to sleep through next week at this point .

  • Cherry-sw
    Cherry-sw Member Posts: 997
    edited November 2017

    I have been sleeping through the whole day today. I slept during the day even yesterday but I did not sleep at night after the infusion due to cortisone. Today even though I slept the whole night after a couple of hours I just crushed. Last week was the same, the effect is cumulative, no signs of numbness in my hands though. I have only one infusion left and my hair is growing but I believe I will go on with three infusions of EC which means additional eight weeks to the last infusion and they are much more intense than weekly Taxol. You all be done by then, I will be the last one in the group to finish chemo. Cherry

  • VL22
    VL22 Member Posts: 851
    edited November 2017

    I'll be here Cherry! I have 8 Taxols left. Just said on Taxol thread that I had a nosebleed today out of both nostrils! Sorry you are so tired. I know it is probably the last thing you want to do, but walking may help ( says the woman who has been sitting on the sofa for the last three hours!) If I didn't have a dog, I'd be much less motivated to move, but she's sitting here staring at me.

    Glad to see you decided about the further treatment

  • Willow22
    Willow22 Member Posts: 220
    edited November 2017

    Susan and K by the lake - CONGRATULATIONS! Woohoo for counting down those treatments and marking them off as DONE!!! My MO told me to expect a little longer recovery time after each chemo.... I felt pretty good energy-wise about 1.5 weeks after treatment #1, but was still dragging a bit 3 weeks after my final chemo (#4). I started radiation after 3.5 weeks, so I'm still drinking lots of water and making sure I get about 75 grams of protein per day, and I think the days I do well with both of those things I also feel better.

    Cherry - so glad you've decided about additional treatments and can move forward. That deciding part is so draining emotionally and energy-wise. Hoping you are able to let all that stress go now!

    I'm very excited to have gotten my port out yesterday! A little sore and not sleeping well because of it, but such a positive reason that I almost don't mind :) For those that will have radiation - so far it has been a piece of cake. I'm sure I'll get tired of the daily appointments, but for now, it's nice having the energy to go out and do some errands before or after my scheduled time. The staff is wonderful, and the appointments themselves are quick and painless, and so far (completed 7 of 30), no changes to my skin.

    Are most people switching over to the facebook group? I keep meaning to join, but have been back and forth with lots of appointments and care for my father-in-law and keep forgetting. He is 86, and like many of his generation, has never used healthcare unless it is a critical need. He was recently diagnosed with aggressive bladder cancer (surgery to remove last week, but still focal cancer in the bladder muscle, so needs more surgery), and he also has a prostate tumor which is likely malignant. He is still living independently, although not able to manage by himself right now, so I'm very grateful to be done with chemo so that my husband and I can be there for him.

    Following along and thinking of all of you even though I'm not online as much!

    Willow

  • Cherry-sw
    Cherry-sw Member Posts: 997
    edited November 2017

    VL22, I have not yet, I had another call with a high rank specialist yesterday, my oncologist knows him and once again he said that the baseline for me is weekly Taxol and he was the one who recommended it during the first multidisciplinary conference but given that my tumor had LVI and high Ki67 he understands my concern, so they can offer three EC which is not exactly AC but is an anthracycline, still very similar to EC. He said that I should not worry much about my heart and neutropenic fever, though I told him that we had tw members in our group hospitalized with it, but then there is a risk of leukimia, very slight but I was there during the Chernobyl, 150 km from the explosion site and then two weeks after, came back after 14 months and stayed for another three years till I left to live in another city. So I was exposed and there can be some risk. So I got another week to think but I am leaning towards it. I just think that if EC will be to hard on me I still did my 12 Taxols, adding an anthracycline to the treatment gives better results than only having a taxan, there is a study conducted, he mentioned it yesterday. I am so torn, and my back hurts, I have been offered scan, I am so scared right now. Sometimes I do not understand how I got here.

    I know walking helps, but today it was no way I could go anywhere. We have a cat so in our home it is just wait and see who will outsleep whom. If it wouldn't rain tomorrow I will try to get out. There is a coffeeshop in the middle of the forest, so after 4,5 km me and mom get some coffee and something sweet and then we walk back last 500 m to the car. It usually helps me to stay up.

    How was your AC? I know you mentioned it was harder than T, I am not good with nausea, I just do not know what to do Cherry

  • VL22
    VL22 Member Posts: 851
    edited November 2017

    Cherry - one of my favorite pastimes is sleeping with my cat!

    Honestly, I am glad AC is over / I seemed to have more of a nausea issue than most. But in hindsight I can't believe it is over and I am glad I did it - anything to fight this beast. I truly understand your hesitation - it is so much harder of a decision when the doctors are not saying "you should do this". So much pressure.

    And I understand the fear with every ache and pain. Last week I was seriously concerned that I had liver mets, my right side was aching so much. It's just this vicious cycle of fear, depression, then positive thoughts and determination to live each day to the fullest, then back to the fear again.

    I hope you feel better soon Hugs

  • Stage2ire
    Stage2ire Member Posts: 82
    edited November 2017

    hi. I'm really late joining this thread. I started chemo in August. Had first dose of AC and then my wound developed an infection! It had looked fully healed but clearly wasn't. Tiny pin prick of infection, ended up having a wound debridement and second dose was 3 weeks behind schedule. The delay scares me but I try not think about it anymore

    Dose 2 wasn't too bad. Dose 3 my toddler came down with chickenpox andi had to stay away from her for 10 days. Dose 4 of AC was last week. My little girl has a chest infection now and I have to minimise contact, hand washing like crazy etc.

    So far I've done OK I think. Its taking longer to bounce back. I'm bald obviously, that happened after first dose. Hair started coming out when I was in hospital with my wound infection. It just died a slow death for four days till I got out and cut it back. I generally feel like crap for first few days, force food in, tiredness hits on day 3.


    I'm due to start Taxol next week. Terrified I will catch my little girls chest infection and be delayed again. I've had a dry cough last couple of days which I had thought was just chemo cough but now I'm second guessing.

    I'm also really nervous about the Taxol. Did people find it easier than AC?

    Sorry. I know I'm so late onto this thread. But so happy to read other peoples experiences. Some days I feel obliged to say I'm doing fine because I'm not sure the reality is what people want to hear. Its nice knowing I'm not alone.


  • PauletteK
    PauletteK Member Posts: 2,205
    edited November 2017

    Stage - welcome back, sorry that you had so many problems, we still have many people here doing chemo. I’m doing taxol and I found taxol was easy in the beginning then it got harder for me. But that’s only me, many people found it’s easier for them.

    Cherry - glad you made up your mind, I know it was hard decision for you with a young child. I still have weeks of taxol to do, and my clinic will be closed on day after thanksgiving so I will be off a week. As long as you stay on top of the nausea you will be ok on AC. I think some of us found that we have mouth sore during AC. There were days I just didn’t feel like to do anything but rest, now I have some of these days with taxol also.



  • Cherry-sw
    Cherry-sw Member Posts: 997
    edited November 2017

    Hi Stage2ire, welcome ti this thread, sorry you have to join it but if you started in August then it s your thread and there are still few of us who are not done with the treatments. There is another thread for weekly Taxol btw, people find it easier than AC. Sorry you have to stay away from your little one, hope she gets better soon. Cherr

  • Cherry-sw
    Cherry-sw Member Posts: 997
    edited November 2017

    VL, cats are the best, I get sleepy just looking at mine, here comes the pic. About the cycle, you couldn’t describe it better, I do not know where I would have been without my meds snd still everything just sets me off. Hugs! Cherryimage

  • Cherry-sw
    Cherry-sw Member Posts: 997
    edited November 2017

    Paulette, I still got another week to decide, but I am leaning towards it, after all, you guys did it and so it should be manageble. It could be hard because I am already worn by Taxol but as my husband said I can stop it if it gets to the point where it will be too hard Cherry

  • Stage2ire
    Stage2ire Member Posts: 82
    edited November 2017

    im scheduled for 4 taxol, dose dense every 2 weeks. My son has a food allergy and I know taxol seems to cause allergic reactions, maybe that's why its freaking me out


    Cherry, I just finished AC. I didn't eat or drink enough day of my first dose and the nausea floored me. For me getting in lots of fluids and eating before the infusion really helped. Taking anti nausea meds before any nausea started helped too. Carbs and eating little and often. After that first dose I was able to keep ahead of the nausea and it was doable. I had awful morning sickness on my youngest and just kept telling myself it wasn't as bad as that.

    How old is your youngest? My kids are 4.5 and 22 months. I keep thinking if I can stay ahead of cancer long enough to raise them I'll be happy. Though I hope this is the only time I have to dance with the devil and that treatment works!

  • VL22
    VL22 Member Posts: 851
    edited November 2017

    imageCherry - this is my guy Wilson - my husband is jealous.

  • PauletteK
    PauletteK Member Posts: 2,205
    edited November 2017

    Stage - your kids are young, I give you a lot of credit, you’re doing chemo on top of taking care two kids. 🙏🙏🙏

    Honestly I think taxol is hard on the older ladies like me (61) most of the younger ladies are doing much better. Hope you won’t have much problem so you can spend your energy with your kids.


    Good looking cats, I only have dog in the house.


  • KByTheLake
    KByTheLake Member Posts: 52
    edited November 2017

    I love the cat photos! Here is my Daisy. She likes to lay close to me for our naps and that is very comforting. My dog, Sally, likes to be near but not too close.

    image

  • Leatherette
    Leatherette Member Posts: 448
    edited November 2017

    I also didn't get serious neuropathy until my 5th infusion. The middle three toes on each foot went numb. It's getting a little better as time marches on.I just had a thought that maybe when I tell my doctor about the neuropathy, he'll say, "You know what, lets just stop now. You don't need to do this last infusion."

    Highly unlikely, but it was a nice thought!

    And, like the cat pics! I used to have cats, but can't anymore due to allergies.😥



  • Stage2ire
    Stage2ire Member Posts: 82
    edited November 2017

    my son wants a pet, can't decide if he wants a cat or dog. Think we'll have to wait a bit longer though. Not sure I'm up to housetraining a pet on top of the chemo lol

    Cute cats though, my little girl loves cats!

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