Exactly HOW does Femara/Arimidex cause foot pain ?

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  • catsrule
    catsrule Member Posts: 2
    edited December 2010

    I have been to a podiatrist and he has confirmed heel spurs all over the back of both heels.  Since they were not there before femara and got progressively more numerous as I took the drug, I know it was the cause.  Now I have to pay for physical therapy and wear inserts.  I am wondering if all of us who have had heel problems on femara shouldn't have a law suit to warn others of the problem.

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited December 2010

    Estrogen is needed to maintain elasticity in the skin and tendons, so when there is no estrogen (thanks to the AIs) the elasticity is no longer there and our joints and feet, (which depend so heavily on this elasticity), hurt and suffer inflammation.  It's a hefty price we pay for trying to fend off a recurrence.

    I was dx'd with plantar fasciitis several years ago (I think it tends to be hereditary) but orthotics helped get rid of it.  Now I'm back to wearing the orthotics again but it's taking a long time to recover this time. 

  • Lindissima
    Lindissima Member Posts: 239
    edited December 2010

    I am so glad I found this thread!

    I recently switched from Arimidex to the generic Anastrozole and bingo---immediate foot pain! Seems to be worse on first getting up, then subsides, especially if I wear really good support shoes.  Reappears at the end of the day.  Oddly, it's only the left foot. As people here have said, foot feels sore, almost like a burn and I have to limp until I get going.

    I never had plantar's fasciitis before, so I think it's triggered by the  meds. 

    I plan to increase Omega 3's and Vitamin D.  Also to see podiatrist for orthotics. 

  • bc101
    bc101 Member Posts: 1,108
    edited April 2014

    Looks like this is not an active thread, but just wanted to put my two cents in in case anyone is out there. I just started Arimidex and after about a week, started experiencing foot pain that is very similar to plantar fasciitis. I had pf several years ago and had to quit my job and go through physical therapy before it finally went away. Could it have been caused by Arimidex? I'm scared that I'll get it again. I also have neck pain, but granted, I've had neck pain for many years due to arthritis. After a DexaScan, I was recently diagnosed with osteoporosis(!), and Dr. wants to prescribe Fosamax. I'm sure that will have side effects, too :( It it ain't one thing, it's another! I'm wondering if this is really the best approach for me--maybe I should have asked for Tamoxifen instead, but my Dr. recommended this (neoadjuvant therapy before surgery to shrink the tumor). If it works, great -- it will have been worth it. It's just hard to work, that's all. Would be easier if I could just nurse it at home. Maybe I'll have to quit my job....

  • trigeek
    trigeek Member Posts: 916
    edited July 2013

    Good news: Heya all.. ahh those days., I have not clue on whether I adapted my lifestyle to take care of the foot pain(as I still have some but does not stop me from anything - except wearing stillettos - ) it was not a factor in my life. Actually I think the side effects stopped or stopped bothering me after about a year. Human body is amazing in adapting to change.

    Bad News: Last week was my last week on Femara and as I was expecting a miraculous youth injection, good memory, better vision, healthy joints.. I got: hot flashes, stiff swollen joints wt ????, and no change in memory or vision. Maybe it is too soon or maybe my body was using the Femara in a different way than intended and now I am going through withdrawal. Oh and dont forget the mood swings sigh!!!

    Anywhoo thought I would respond.. Have a stellar day everyone.

  • Denise-G
    Denise-G Member Posts: 1,777
    edited July 2013

    I got plantar fascitiis after Taxol...then it got better.  Then it flared up again in the first few months of Arimidex.  I am now 10 months into Arimidex.  It is a little better, but comes and goes. 

    Kinesio taping works like a miracle.  Watch a video on you tube.  Lots of them out there. 

  • pedotas
    pedotas Member Posts: 1
    edited July 2013

    Had to see how closely connected my foot pain was to Femara, and thanks to all of you BINGO!  There it is.  So the Arimidex and Aromasin did similar to me, and the only one that hasn't is Tamoxifen.  BUT I cannot take Tamoxifen because there is some reaction that can/does occur when taken with Welbuterin!!  I hope you all know this, because my oncologist did not!  My pharmacist had to bring it to my attention!  I have tried so many other anti-depressants over the years, and just cannot find one better for me.  So instead of going down that rocky road again, I am living with the foot pain!  Wonder if there is a better anti-inflam out there these days....

  • Jazzygirl
    Jazzygirl Member Posts: 12,533
    edited August 2013

    I found this thread to day on Arimidex and foot pain. I had problems early in 2012 with my feet prior to being diagnosed with breast cancer, and my PCP found bone spurs in both feet. She said the body adapts to the plantars and said to be sure to always wear shoes (no bare feet especially on tile floors) and recommended inserts. My feet did get better and the pain subsided. I was diagnosed with the bc later on in the year.

    In March 2013, I started on Arimidex and within a couple months, I had bad foot pain just like I did when the plantars was at it's worst. I believe it is directly related to the start of the AI and read on other threads that women have problems with their feet on this drug. I have had a few other side effects, but nothing as bad as the foot pain. I will see my MO again in a couple months and see what he advises. I want to be able to walk more for exercise as I always have, and find I limit my time on my feet as a result of the ongoing pain. 

    I read today that someone recommended taking Mega Red Joint suppliments and it has really helped her overall joint issues and going to try that next too. I took Feldene last year for awhile for the foot pain and may have to consider that again if my feet don't get better. 

    I added this to my favorites to keep track of other suggestions and to share what is or is not working for me on the foot pain front!

  • kmpod
    kmpod Member Posts: 234
    edited August 2013

    Hi Jazzy,

    I've been on Anastrazole just shy of two years now. Like you I'm limping and finding it difficult to walk any distance; but, in my case, it's my knees that have been painful to the point of disability. I've been missing being able to exercise and feel like I've been in a downward spiral in terms of my fitness.

    I have found that taking a combination of supplements (Vitamin D, Omega 3's, Claritin, and Boswellia/Cucurmin) is helpful in relieving the pain - to a certain extent. All of them seem to be necessary. If I do happen to miss one of them for a couple of days I'm reminded just how helpful they are.

    I've recently added acupuncture to my routine and so far that has been very helpful. It's got me back on my feet. I predict that my acupuncturist and I have just started what will be a long term relationship.

    In the last few weeks (since starting the acupuncture) I've discovered Nordic pole walking. It makes simple walking into a more complete exercise by involving the upper body; and, best of all, I find that it takes a bit of pressure off of my knees, allowing me to walk longer. If you've ever done cross country skiing it will seem very natural to you.

    Each of these things have provided an incremental improvement in my mobility and, hopefully, in the longer term, my fitness level.

    Best of luck to you.

  • Jazzygirl
    Jazzygirl Member Posts: 12,533
    edited August 2013

    Hi ladies- a new product to share with you! I went to the health food store today and spoke to someone there about my needs for joint supplements and also something to help with the ongoing foot pain. I explained my situation to her very privately and she recommended a topical creme called Topricin. She says she uses it after being on her feet all day at the store, and says it really does work. Always good to have an endorsement from someone who actually uses a product!

    I put a bit on the bottoms of my feet where I have pain today and already feel relief. Costs around $15 and think it's worth a try! 

  • walley
    walley Member Posts: 231
    edited September 2014

    Thanks for the info!Going to get the Topricin today

  • Jazzygirl
    Jazzygirl Member Posts: 12,533
    edited September 2013

    Hi ladies- I also was told about a suppliment that helps with joint pain, called Hyraluroic Acids and started taking that and it seems to help the feet too but several here on this site said it may not be safe, may act like estrogen and cause tumor growth. So, I am going to hold off on taking that any further until I discuss it with my MO. I need to find out what supplements and vitamins are safe for post bc treatment as it seems there may be some things we are to avoid.

    My best solutions for foot pain so far are soaking my feet in epsom salts, icing the bottoms of my feet at the end of the day, and the toprocin creme.

  • DTweety
    DTweety Member Posts: 1
    edited September 2014

    I don't know why it causes it. I thought I had severe plantar fasciitis for the past 4 years.  I have had 3 rounds of steroid shots in my heels because I could not walk.  Always forgot to ask the oncologist if it was OK.  It worked for a week the first time, the second two times maybe helped a little.  I had mentioned plantar fasciitis to the oncologist and he never said the femara could cause it.  I have been off the femara for 4 days now (due to other side effects) and I am walking without orthotics, and have been pain free for two days.  Life on femara does not feel worth fighting for. If my cancer came back while on femara I would probably just choose to live what time I had left without any treatment.   I was tired all the time. I had no fight left in me.  I had a sad resignation that at 56 I had the body of an 80 year old.  I sat on my front porch and watched other people walk around the lake in our neighborhood and wished that I could walk.  I watched my flowers and plants slowly die as I did not feel like getting up and watering them.  It's a miracle that my employer hasn't fired me, as I have been practically useless at work.  I have hope now that I can get back to living.    I already feel 10 years younger without the extreme pain with every step I take.  I hope I will continue to improve and be able to do yoga, gardening, and feel up to visiting with friends and family.

  • april485
    april485 Member Posts: 3,257
    edited September 2014

    Dtweety, so sorry you had such an extreme reaction. I have pretty bad se's from the Aromasin, not the least of which is terrible foot pain and debilitating pain in my joints so I totally get it. Soon, I may just cry uncle as I am so exhausted from always feeling like crap. Hugs!

  • Tomboy
    Tomboy Member Posts: 3,945
    edited September 2014

    DTweety. I hear ya. This is sucking the joy out of each day for me. what i have heard about femara is that the pains will migrate. Did that happen to you, or did it stay with one place, just your feet? i dont know what stage you are, but hopefully four years did the job. i have been on various anti estrogens, and so far, this one is the best, except for the excruciating foot pain. i may have to go back on arimidex, i know i hurt on that one, but at least it was an all over pain, and not focused entirely on my feet. and yeh, i just turned 55 a couple days ago, and i do feel as old as my mother, we share the same litany of woes, we sound more like two really old women who are friends than a mother and her daughter. Really? did the pains start going away that quickly after stopping? that is my greatest fear, that the pain will not go away after stopping. thanks, and welcome and i do hope you feel better and better.

  • Gsmathers
    Gsmathers Member Posts: 1
    edited October 2016

    this made me tear up to know I'm not alone. Been on arimidex almost a year and I feel 90. I'm 37. My feet feel like fire when I wake up or sit for any period of time. My hand ache sometimes but mainly my feet. I hate this med and still have 4 years.

  • radgal
    radgal Member Posts: 100
    edited October 2016

    This article explains why the AIs cause joint pain. Hope this helps

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC21401...j

  • ChiSandy
    ChiSandy Member Posts: 12,133
    edited October 2016

    All these symptoms are a result of estrogen deprivation—they are in effect accelerated aging. When we get cancer—or any other serious health problem, especially at “a certain age,” the cold hard truth is that you can no longer fix something without breaking something else.

    Hyaluronic acid, when taken orally, doesn’t find its way to the joint spaces, so it does no good but may have an estrogenic effect; when injected into the joint space, might work to stimulate the body to make more of it to cushion deteriorating cartilage (or not—it didn’t for me), but it doesn’t affect breast cancer the way it would if taken orally.

    What I’ve found helps my joint and muscle pain is topical NSAIDs and arnica (has to be topical—oral NSAIDs can do a number on your gut, and that homeopathic oral arnica stuff is useless: the “law of similars” is basically woo-woo bullsh*t—you’re buying sugar pill placebos). Topical arnica gel (Boiron or Traumeel) actually sometimes works better for me some days than Voltaren gel or Flector patches. I can take a type of NSAID called a COX-2 inhibitor—the one I use is celecoxib (Celebrex)—which is much easier on the gut. I take a 200mg. Celebrex in the morning, and a couple of 650 mg. “arthritis formula” time-release acetaminophen at bedtime.

    I have a nasty heel spur, and the cushier the shoes, the better. Hoka One One running shoes are like walking on orthopedic marshmallows; and for hanging around the house, FitFlops are made of a very thick solid layer of foam rubber. Mahabis sheepskin-lined boiled wool slippers (with the outer rubber sole providing an extra layer of rubber) feel good indoors too. Thor-Lo cushioned walking socks are great too, if you wear sneakers or oxfords (or very roomy loafers). In winter, UGGs worn over bare feet cushion my soles and heel very well. (You can even buy a sheepskin-covered orthotic insert)!

    I also found a brand of shoe called Alegria that is shaped like actual feet, has a modified rocker profile. and comes with a removable cork orthotic. I have it in mules, clogs and Mary Janes, in a variety of leather colors and patterns. (Nurses and chefs love them). Cheaper and prettier than my previous fave, Finn Comfort (which run upward of $300). I used to love Mephistos, but the lasts are too narrow for my bunions and their “lifetime” refurbishing program has gotten more expensive and is no longer “lifetime."

  • debiann
    debiann Member Posts: 1,200
    edited October 2016

    I had foot problems prior to my dx so I can't blame all the problems on arimidex, it just didn't help. I learned stretching exercises in PT that work. Also, I tried orthotics, but for me Birkenstock shoes work best.

  • farmerlucy
    farmerlucy Member Posts: 3,985
    edited October 2016

    ChiSandy - Thanks again for the great info. I read on another thread that you had both knees replaced. Did that relieve much of your pain? Would you do it again?

  • new_direction
    new_direction Member Posts: 449
    edited July 2017

    I've had burning, stiffness and problems walking which began around 1 year after starting femara.
    I've been afraid of paraneoplastic syndrome - hadn't thought about femara until now.
    some days are worse than others.

    Sometimes it feels like a needle is pressed through my toes. Its unbearable. I rushed to buy new footwear, insoles etc and hope it helps enough to make the "journey" tolerable.

    Is anyone having the same problem still or maybe know how to reduce the pain.

  • dtad
    dtad Member Posts: 2,323
    edited July 2017

    Hi everyone...Unfortunately we need estrogen in every other organ in our body. The many SEs stem from the lack of it. We need to speak up for better treatment options!

  • 2ndGenBCA
    2ndGenBCA Member Posts: 40
    edited July 2017

    I agree, dtad, we need better treatment options and full transparency regarding potential SE's from our MO's. After trying generic anastrozole, then name brand, and finally Femara, I waved the white flag and said "enough - no more" due to severe SE's.I thought I was dieing and the doc and his nurses didn't seem to care. Now, months after going off the meds I got the sharp pain in my heel and ankle. My podiatrist says it's a couple of things - tarsal tunnel, tendonitis and venous reflux. I'm getting the vein ablations to ease pressure on my ankle and legs (a lot of swelling) and wear a "walking boot" to help ease the heel pain. Often my Birkenstocks and/or similar comfort shoes help but sometimes not. (BTW, I am also working to limit sugars in my diet as they cause inflammation.)

    My SE's are not disappearing as I was led to believe they would. At least I can get up from a chair... now it's a question of whether or not I can walk when I'm up. These AI's have been like poison to me and the poison is not yet relinquishing it's grip. Has anyone else had lingering damage and/or new problems due to these AI's? Has your foot pain ever subsided?

  • dtad
    dtad Member Posts: 2,323
    edited July 2017

    So sorry you are experiencing SE still. Yes aromatase inhibitors can have permeant SEs, Especially, joint issues. Unfortunately most MOs do not discuss this before initiating therapy. We have to be our own advocates and ask a lot of questions before deciding on treatment. Here is hoping your SE get better. Good luck and keep us posted...

  • 2ndGenBCA
    2ndGenBCA Member Posts: 40
    edited July 2017

    Thanks dtad - I'm doing what I can to stay strong and get around and through all this! There are days when it's particularly difficult - both physically and emotionally... I still remember the doctor assurances to me... "With this diagnosis, this is easy" or "this will be a breeze" from the very beginning of this cancer journey and I just wish they never would have said those misleading things and set my expectations as such. Positive thoughts are important - but I also think the framing of the situation must be authentic. No one really knows what's going to happen. I appreciate your support and that of others on the forums here.  

  • mcraig
    mcraig Member Posts: 9
    edited October 2017

    I Have been on Letrozole for 4 years now and I have just about had it. Similar heel pain, all my joints ache, and we won't even talk about intimacy. I had lobular cancer, 8cm...limp nodes clear and so were margins. I opted for complete mastectomy right and left. I am seriously thinking of calling it good with the results I had. Bless you all.

  • new_direction
    new_direction Member Posts: 449
    edited December 2017

    Ladies hope I can give someone a little hope and good advice. I remember how bad the foot pain was, my feet were so sore I could not even bare to have something touch them, I was limping around at times, the only thing that I found helpful was:
    switch shoes, water "massage", it would only minimise the pain a little so after 1,5 year on Femara my oncologist suggested I switch to Arimidex. I feel like a new person. The symptoms from my feet has almost gone completely after 2 to 3 weeks. My sleep is better. I feel more energized. 

    at this point my acquired worrisome and almost masochistic mind starts to speculate - does this really help when it doesn't hurt???

    seriously - I recall reading an article about a link between degree of symptoms of low estrogen and response...

    I would love to hear stories of great responses and few/no side effects.

  • dtad
    dtad Member Posts: 2,323
    edited December 2017

    newdirection....there is a thread on this forum titled doing well on aromatase inhibitors. Hopefully that will help.

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