Starting Radiation October 2017

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  • FelineMum
    FelineMum Member Posts: 141
    edited October 2017

    OCDAmy: I've yet to start rads. I do have TEs. My PS waits nine months after radiation's finished before exchanging TEs for permanent implants. I'm sitting here, feeling like I have large bricks attached to my collar bone, wondering how I'll go almost a whole year like this. I know his rationale is to let the body heal completely before another surgery, that it lessens the risk of complications. He said more than nine months accomplishes nothing, but less than that isn't wise.

  • Beanie2017
    Beanie2017 Member Posts: 5
    edited October 2017

    Hello all! This site is beyond a blessing!! I have been reading posts but never logged on and signed up. I have finally and I have a strange question. I’ve had 3/28 TX for radiation. My time is late afternoon daily at 4:30pm. I hate going without deodorant, makes me feel dirty even if I’ve just showered. ( I know, weird!) I have the Tom’s deodorant my RO suggested, but if my appt is that late, when should I use it?? I will see RO again on Wednesday but wanted to know what you do?! Thx

  • OCDAmy
    OCDAmy Member Posts: 873
    edited October 2017

    Feline Mum, Ugh! Nine months is not what I was expecting. I asked my PS when I first met her about the timing and she told me we would talk about that after surgery. I was hoping to be done with all of this before summer. Mine are so tight right now and hard, I can't imagine having them that long. I am really scared that radiation is going to ruin all this work. The PS nurse says my skin is really thin on the cancer side.

  • Cher64
    Cher64 Member Posts: 7
    edited October 2017

    I had a lumpectomy on Sept 6th and hoping to start radiation by the end of Oct or beginning of November. Everything has healed up pretty good. Eager to get it started, so I can get it over with. It will be either 16 treatments or if I do this new clinical trial, ACCEL, it will be 5 treatments for 5 days. Suppose to start Tomoxifen this weekend, but haven't started, nervous to begin it.

  • Snazzyiron
    Snazzyiron Member Posts: 19
    edited October 2017

    Hi DodgersGirl,


    I am starting radiation in October, hopefully.  My second radiation oncologist appointment is tomorrow.


    Rita in Indina

  • DodgersGirl
    DodgersGirl Member Posts: 2,382
    edited October 2017

    Snazzyiron-- do you know if your next RO appointment is for mapping? Or a consult appointment?

    I expect to hear from my MO this week with a start date. Looking forward to having rads started only to be closer to being finished with them.

    Let us know how tomorrow goes.

    And welcome to this topic.

  • DodgersGirl
    DodgersGirl Member Posts: 2,382
    edited October 2017

    Cher64-- welcome.

    I haven't read anything about ACCEL. What kind of trial is it?

    Good luck coming with whichever path your rad journey takes you on. Let us know when you will start rads.

    Hoping my rads are without SE for you.

  • Snazzyiron
    Snazzyiron Member Posts: 19
    edited October 2017

    Hi DodgersGirl,

    I don’t know what this second appt is for.  I have received different answers.  I hope it is for mapping. I really want to know when my radiation will start because then I will know when radiation is finished. 

    I am still having my annual Halloween Party!🎃



  • SpeedyTeach
    SpeedyTeach Member Posts: 21
    edited October 2017

    #6 whole breast rads done today. So far doing good, just a bit of a weird/tight feeling along left side where lumpectomy and drain tubes was. My tumor was so far back against my chest wall that I had the tightness and nerve issues post surgery so just feels a touch worse but overall not bad , hoping it stays that way.

    dogersgirl-congrats on the clear scan, I'm sure that was a big relief

    dmjmom-what a fun idea about the scratch off lotto tickets! I may have to try that too, who know maybe I'll run into a bit of good luck. Hmm, I may bring some in for my last treatment to celebrate too.

    Wishing all minimum side effects having radiation this week :)

  • Snazzyiron
    Snazzyiron Member Posts: 19
    edited October 2017

    Hello DodgersGirl!!

    My second appointment with the radiation oncologist went quickly. I am going to have 20 treatments and my molding is happening tomorrow. He said they will make a mold of my body that will hold me in the same position for all the treatments. I did forget to ask how long each treatment lasts. How long did each of your last?


    Thanks,


    Rita



  • DodgersGirl
    DodgersGirl Member Posts: 2,382
    edited October 2017

    Snazzyiron-- I have had my mapping appointment only at this point. Waiting to get notified this week when rads will start..... so I don't know yet how long each session will take.

    Just hope we all get through this as well as possinle

  • dmjmom
    dmjmom Member Posts: 79
    edited October 2017

    I had my 4th rads treatment today. It takes a couple minutes to get me into position. The techs have to tape my upper arm fat up and out of the way...that's in no way embarrassing, lol. The actual treatment for me is less than 10 minutes. From the time I pull into the parking lot until the time I pull out of the parking lot is less than 30 minutes.

    The tech said that people usually see side effects, if they are going to have them, in the third week. Other than fatigue, which might be a left over from chemo, I haven't felt anything and my skin hasn't changed.

    Beanie2017, my RO said nothing on my skin (on the side to be treated) within three hours of treatment. I use the Tom's deodorant when I first wake up, my treatment is 3 1/2 hours later.

    Debby

  • DodgersGirl
    DodgersGirl Member Posts: 2,382
    edited October 2017

    dmjmom-- thanks for sharing info about your treatment!! I sure find it helpful to have an idea what each step of the fight against cancer coukd be like and the radiation "step" seems the scariest so fa

  • LoJo100
    LoJo100 Member Posts: 123
    edited October 2017

    My appointments are like dmjmom's description. They get me into position, shine bright lights all over me, then refine the position a bit, then leave the room, buzz, buzz. Then back in the room to reposition the machine and my table (I stay completely still), then leave the room, buzz, buzz. Then back in the room for one more reposition of the machine and my table, then buzz, buzz.

    I've tried counting the buzz times, and I think it's 1.5-3 minutes of actual radiation, if that. Once a week they add an XRay in, so it's a little longer on the table that day than the others. All-in-all, it's do-able.

    The longest treatment time so far has been the day the computer decided to crash in the middle of it and I had to lay completely still until it came back up so we could continue. That was a little rough, but I went into meditation mode. :-)

    Today was day #1 of week three (so treatment #11) and it's still just some pink'ish skin. Doesn't feel too bad (a little itchy near my port). Fatigue is fine. I think with the SE's of chemo wearing off, it's hard to tell if I have radiation effects like fatigue, because I feel so much better every day, it overpowers any radiation SE right now.

    Miaderm still seems to be the wonder cream. Using it three times a day, and it feels really good and seems to be helping. Let's hope it continues this way (*fingers crossed*).

  • Snazzyiron
    Snazzyiron Member Posts: 19
    edited October 2017

    loJo, Thanks for the info. I can’t believe I didn’t ask how long each treatment takes. I m just so anxious to get started . Who knew that getting radiation would be so desirable. I did find out that I m going to get 20 treatments. I hope to be finished by Thanksgiving 🍗🍗

  • Beanie2017
    Beanie2017 Member Posts: 5
    edited October 2017

    Djmmom: thanks for your reply! I’m definitely going to use it in the morning then!! It looks like we are on the same schedule, I had my 4th rads today also!

    I walked into treatment today at 4:15 and was walking out of the facility at 4:34. So far the worst part is just laying still. It seems like forever but it’s only 10-15 min.

    I finished my chemo in May, then had 3 surgeries, so RO wanted me to heal from them before starting rads. I haven’t had any fatigue or skin changes and my techs said- wait until 3rd week you will start noticing SE’s. That kinda scared me, but then I think about all we’ve all had to endure, we’ve been through so much, we can make it through this too!!




  • Shellsatthebeach
    Shellsatthebeach Member Posts: 316
    edited October 2017

    Hi everyone, I'm going in today for my final consult for plan and start radiation treatments this Wed. I'm feeling a little nervous since my cancer was on left side which means rads close to heart. Hoping all goes well for everyone!

  • FelineMum
    FelineMum Member Posts: 141
    edited October 2017

    Good morning all,

    I have my second appointment with my RO today. It was originally scheduled for Friday, but my cat needed an unexpected trip to the vet (he's okay now) and I would've met with my RO's partner, not him. I had a very thorough appointment and exam in August, right after my BMX. So, I already know it'll be 33 treatments over 6 1/2 weeks. That I'll either have a cradle or back board molded to keep me in position during rads. The RO said it'll take longer to get me into position than for the actual radiation - 2-3 minutes, I think he said. My RO actually has an "India ink colored tattoo" (his words) on his wrist to show patients what their tattoos will look like - size and color.

    He's also 79-years-old and technically retired. Filling in for other RO's sick days and vacation time seems to have become a long-term gig. I think an RO at the center has been having serious health probs. But I hear my RO attends a lot of continuing ed programs, both to meet licensing requirements and because he enjoys learning. (Someone from my BS's office mentioned that when they heard who my RO is.)

    Still, I feel tired and cranky. An hour drive each way for an update and another exam - I think possibly to see if my TEs are too big/in a bad location. Knowing that 10 weeks of fills could literally go down the drain makes me feel queasy. Mine went high and seem to be on my collarbone. I think they're huge and I know they hurt. Still, I didn't see a sign-up sheet for Easy-Peasy Cancer Treatments and/or Procedures for Quality of Life Afterward. i.e. I don't want to lose my progress and possibly my chance of eventually having implants.

    Update soon.

  • sweetsmilefh
    sweetsmilefh Member Posts: 14
    edited October 2017

    Yesterday was my first of 20 radiation treatments. It was very quick, I was in and out within 30 minutes, including changing. Before getting dressed after the treatment, I slathered Aquafor on my breast. When I got home, I spent 30 minutes icing it, following the suggestion of some wonderful person on this site. (dip a washcloth in ice water, squeeze it out and hold it over my breast until it warms up; repeat until the water in the basin gets warm. Well, I did it for half an hour, and then it was dinner time and I was starved.)

    I had practiced the Deep Inspiration Breath Hold. The radiation therapists would tell me to take a deep breath; I never needed to hold it for more than 15 seconds, and a few times, they told me to breathe deeper. Afterwards, they told me that they needed accuracy within 3 millimeters to avoid my heart. Actually, this reassured me.

    In the evening, I used an ice pack occasionally, and used Calendula cream before going to sleep and first thing in the morning. I know that skin reactions may take a week or 2 to develop. My skin is quite fair, and I am trying to be prepared. Also ordered Miaderm from Amazon, to have in reserve.

    My breast surgeon and RO are both female; yesterday the 2 radiation therapists were men. It felt a bit weird, but I just went with the flow. They were professional, however I would have been more comfortable with female radiation therapists.

  • dmjmom
    dmjmom Member Posts: 79
    edited October 2017

    Beanie2017, well, we were on the same treatment schedule, but the software wouldn’t boot up this morning in the rads department where I get treatment, so I’m still at 4 down 29 to go.

    FelineMum. Easy-Peasy Cancer Treatment sign up sheet...lol.

    Shellsatthebeach, I’m worried about rads’ effect on my heart too. I will see my cardiologist early in January for an evaluation of any damage. My husband comforted me by saying he thinks I should worry about the problem I do have (breast cancer) more than I worry about a problem I might or might not have in the future. For some reason his comment just let me stop worrying about it (for now anyway.

  • FelineMum
    FelineMum Member Posts: 141
    edited October 2017

    Finally home. Apparently, my appointment this morning was supposed to be a Q&A and mapping/SIMS session. The Q&A went well. My RO has no problem with my wearing deodorant - he just cautioned that ones with alcohol in them might sting my skin if I get rads sunburn. His preferred lotion is whatever a patient likes best. He does make suggestions, like aloe vera and Aquaphor. But he also said that what someone is most comfortable with or confident in likely will work best for them.

    Because of the location of my positive node and which lymphatic channels are involved, my left lung will be radiated in three different places. I knew it'd be hit in one place. Three seems like ... way too many.

    I do need my non-cancer side TE partially deflated. My heart's located close to my chest wall, so I also need to learn the breath holding technique that moves the heart away from the radiation(?). I'll need to go to a larger center for that and also for my mapping. My BS is based at that center and it's where I had chemo, so I'm familiar with it. But the staff told me to practice holding my breath for at least 30 seconds - just pretend I'm scuba diving! Um, the thought of doing that makes me feel panicky. I have generalized anxiety disorder, and I almost drowned as a child. Oddly enough, I've never gone scuba diving. Perhaps because I don't put my head under water.

    Guess I'll deal with that part later. I made an appointment later this week for deflation. That seems like a fitting word. It's only by 1/3rd and the TE will be refilled once I finish rads.

    I've been in active treatment since March. If everything stays on track, I'll finish in February 2018. With implants in the Fall of 2018.

    I'm so tired of CancerLand.

  • DodgersGirl
    DodgersGirl Member Posts: 2,382
    edited October 2017

    RO's office called this afternoon. I start rads on 10/23. And so it begins

    I am tired of Cancerland, too

  • Midwifeknitter
    Midwifeknitter Member Posts: 4
    edited October 2017

    Started radiation treatment this week. I was super anxious on day 1, which was just a simulation day; now I'm day 4, and less anxious. But it sure is weird. I feel like having breast cancer is like having a second job! I get up at 6am so I can get to radiation by 7, having packed breakfast and lunch on my work days (3 days/week), then off to work for a full day. Have to go to sleep early, so I can get up at 6, so I feel like I've lost a bunch of "free time." Oh, and I'm also going to a lymphadema specialist/occupational therapist twice a week to help with mobility issues related to multiple surgeries including extensive lymph node dissection. Each session is 2 hours including travel time. So far, I'm happy to report very little in the way of physical symptoms, but my head is a mess. I've given myself permission to complain to friends, therapist (of course) and husband, and that seems to be helping. This morning I sent an official "invitation" via text, to my girlfriends with whom I often have breakfast on Thursdays, to my "pity party!" One of them showed, with her young adult daughter. The other "accidentally" (hmmmm????) went to the wrong restaurant. She can run, but she cannot hide! I will hunt her down and whine incessantly the next time I see her. Just kidding. Sort of. Is anyone else really grumpy about radiation and cancer?

  • utjoy
    utjoy Member Posts: 56
    edited October 2017

    Dodger, you and I have been on nearly the same schedule throughout this mess. I start rads on Monday, too. I did start Arimidex (the bottle actually says anastrozole?) yesterday & will start the weekly fosamax tomorrow. Scary to read all the se's...add 'research' as a THIRD job!

    Midwife...wow, you are busy! Since I have to travel 3 hours one way we're just going to stay there 4 nights a week, DH has physical therapy 3x a wk anyhow. Second home?

  • DodgersGirl
    DodgersGirl Member Posts: 2,382
    edited October 2017

    midwifeknittet-- I so hear you about feeling like having cancer is like having a 2nd full time job. And this rad step seems like the hardest one so far to do while working full time. My rads start Monday and my physical therapy 2 times a week starts next week and waiting on times/dates for lymphodema therapy, too. And try to work 10 hr days?? I feel like a failure and I haven't even started yet

  • DodgersGirl
    DodgersGirl Member Posts: 2,382
    edited October 2017

    utjoy-- hope hubby is doing better.

    I haven't started AIs yet. MO said the ROs in my area prefer AIs are started after rads. So I asked my RO about that as I kind of feel I am not doing anything to try to stop cancer's spread right now. RO said he didn't mind if I started AIs now but would prefer I wait 2 weeks so we could know if SEs are from rads or meds. I told MO's nurse that but she said ROs like to wait. Sigh. Are you listening to me MO nurse??

    MO has submitted me to a clinical trial SWOG-S1207 Hormone therapy with or without Afinitor (Everolimus). Really scary side effects with this Afinitor plus AI. Please let me know how you do on AIs. I am worried about increasing joint pain that I already have from arthritis.

    Reference rads, are you going to try the green tea treatment 3 times a day during rads? I am. RO said it was ok for me to try. Will be using calendula oil, too, and auquaphor if my skin peels.



  • Caley
    Caley Member Posts: 2
    edited October 2017

    started radiation today and I was shocked to feel sensations in my breast all afternoon. I didn’t think I would feel anything for at least a week or so. Is this typical ? And the sensation is deep not on the skin surface- thanks for any advice

  • l_brain
    l_brain Member Posts: 71
    edited October 2017

    Hello,

    Just finished 14 of 20. Skin is a bit red, but doctor thinks it won't get any worse. The last 5 are boosts. (smaller area and shallow treatment) Skin hasn't gotten any worse than at the end of #10. Felt some soreness the second week, but so far this week haven't had any. The end is in sight.

  • Caley
    Caley Member Posts: 2
    edited October 2017

    good for you- your almost done! So did you not feel much the first few treatments?

  • DodgersGirl
    DodgersGirl Member Posts: 2,382
    edited October 2017

    i_brain: you are so close to finishing....that is so exciting. Good for you!

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