Starting chemo August 2017 - would love some moral support!

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  • PauletteK
    PauletteK Member Posts: 2,205
    edited October 2017

    Autumn, AC gave me mouth sore and gums sensitive, expect few Day you will be so fatigue that you might not able to get up. Is Abraxane very close to taxol? I heard someone said that in a thread. I’m doing taxol and I feel it is not an easy one to do, I still have 7 more to go and it’s getting me down,

  • Autum1031
    Autum1031 Member Posts: 31
    edited October 2017

    Hi Paulette, the Abraxane is similar to Taxol, but it's a more expensive drug. I'm on a clinical trial for TNBC so I am getting this instead.

    I've found the Abraxane to be pretty manageable, and I'm almost done. Mainly, I've dealt with fatigue and bone pain, mostly on Days 3-4, but that has increased as the days go by to include Day 2, and part of Day 5. I'm able to drive into the office on Days 6 & 7 (1 hour each way) and even on my worst days, I am out and about shopping, doing things with my son, and the like. It's only in the past week that I've developed sensitive gums, dry mouth and dryness in my nose. I've also had neuropathy on and off since Week 5, but it comes and goes. No GI issues to speak of -- just a bit of heartburn around weeks 7-8 which went away.

    I'm really worried about the nausea with AC, but I guess I won't know until I start!

  • PauletteK
    PauletteK Member Posts: 2,205
    edited October 2017

    I’m on taxol 5,1-4 we’re fine for me, this time I got little heartburn even on day 2, today is my day 3 supposed to be good day but I got issue with dry nose caused nosebleed on and off for an hour long. That messed up my day. Did you lose any weight during Abraxane?

    AC, make sure stay on top of nausea, take meds as they suggested, don’t wait till it happens that will be too late. I didn’t have much nausea problem with AC, but with taxol I do. I have to take my meds more often. Do expect some down time with AC, it made me fatigue on day 4-6, last two AC I even feel fatigue on day 7.

  • rdeesides
    rdeesides Member Posts: 459
    edited October 2017

    Im on day 4 of Taxol #1 and the fatigue is the same as AC for me. I have literally just been laying down the past two days. Anyone else have so much fatigue? I think my RBC counts are maybe too low. I also had Carboplatin so maybe that’s why. If every week is like this I will never get a recovery time. I will have to talk to MO about this. Luckily my daughter had a sleepover last night and my husband took her out shopping today.


  • PauletteK
    PauletteK Member Posts: 2,205
    edited October 2017

    rdeeside- my taxol 1-4 weren’t that bad, only down half day on 3 and 4, somehow on taxol 5 I’m down on day 3 today. Could be my nosebleed made me more fatigue so I can’t go out. Tomorrow I have doc appointment so I got to get out. Are you doing weekly taxol now?

  • rdeesides
    rdeesides Member Posts: 459
    edited October 2017

    Paulette, yes I am doing weekly Taxol. My MO was on vacation this week so there was a lottle confusion. They added Carboplatin too this time but I’m not sure I will get it every time. Before she left, my MO said if I got Carboplatin I would need blood transfusions. So now I’m thinking this is the problem. My fatigue doesn’t seem normal.


  • PauletteK
    PauletteK Member Posts: 2,205
    edited October 2017

    Rdeeside- from what I read carboplatin knocks down our red blood count, that would be why you are so fatigue. Be careful check with your MO for blood transfusion.

  • LoJo100
    LoJo100 Member Posts: 123
    edited October 2017

    Rdeeside - I was on Carboplatin every three weeks while doing weekly Abraxane. The weeks when Carboplatin was part of the mix I was knocked down on day 3 & 4, and had major GI issues with it. The weeks I had Abraxane, only, were much easier. The Carboplatin really hit my WBC, to the point I had to give myself Neupogen shots for 4 days after every infusion (weekly). But, the Neupogen worked, so giving myself a shot was worth it.

    I hope the fatigue gets better for you. I was part of the July Chemo group, but have been following this group off and on. So sorry you had to be in the hospital for six days, I hope everything is better from here on out.

    -LoJo

  • Cherry-sw
    Cherry-sw Member Posts: 997
    edited October 2017

    rdeesides, I am basically knocken off days 1-3, still can drive and go to the appointments, no nausea for me so far, I just had the 9th infusion. In the end if it I started to have this feeling in my head like full of it, so full of a drug. Still do not know about epirubicin though I do not want to do it but the nurse told me that they already booked me up.

    Cherry.

  • VL22
    VL22 Member Posts: 851
    edited October 2017

    Autumn - my nausea was unmanageable with the medications. It was horrible. Even at night I was awake with it. If you find this to be the case, ask for the Sancuso patch for nausea. My cancer center is just starting to use it regularly. I only used it after my last infusion - how I wish I would have got it sooner.

    R - I am not as fatigued with the Taxol as you, but I have heard that the Carboplatin does that. My hemoglobin is low however. I'm trying to eat more iron to raise the number, but it is hard when young don't want to eat really!

    Paulette - I do #3 this week and I too am just exhausted of it. But what choice do we have

  • PauletteK
    PauletteK Member Posts: 2,205
    edited October 2017

    Good morning ladies, oh boy I experienced nausea from taxol last night, that's something I didn't expect because i didn't have problem with AC, wouldn't expect from taxol. Slept 8hours last night hope today is a better day.


  • VL22
    VL22 Member Posts: 851
    edited October 2017

    Paulette - sorry to hear that - nausea is the worst! Taxol 3 is this Thursday - my big SE is muscle and joint pain. I'll be feeling great then BAM! Pain meds dull it, but still feel achey. I've been avoiding afternoon naps and sleeping much better at night. This is no fun, but for me better than AC. Are you taking the anti-nausea meds - if so, any relief

  • Cherry-sw
    Cherry-sw Member Posts: 997
    edited October 2017

    Sorry Paulette, hope it gies away soon, I never had any nausea so far. This time I felt so spacey

  • PauletteK
    PauletteK Member Posts: 2,205
    edited October 2017

    VL, yes I’m taking the anti nausea meds, last night I took zofran at 8 pm and 9 pm felt a little nausea, so I took Ativan around 9:30 then just went to sleep. Even on day 4 I took my zofran to be safe.

    Cherry - I feel much better today, thank you. All these SE make us all crazy. You have chemo brain?

  • rdeesides
    rdeesides Member Posts: 459
    edited October 2017

    LoJo - I don't know yet if my MO plans on giving me the Carboplatin every time or only every other time or something like that. She was out last week, so I need to find out what the plan is. I don't think I can do this for 11 more weeks. I called the nurseline and the nurse just said to drink more water. Haha

    VL22 - Someone told me to make some bone marrow soup. This will help with RBC count. I don't know where to get bone marrow so probably not going to do it.

    Paulette - I can't believe you have nausea now! I am thinking Taxol maybe isn't as easy as we thought it would be.

    R

  • Cherry-sw
    Cherry-sw Member Posts: 997
    edited October 2017

    Rdeesides, the nurse was right about the water part, it does make a difference with Taxol, wasn't hydration important during AC? In the booklet I took about epirubicin it says that it dries your skin and the lotion is to be applied several times a day.

    My last week after 8th infusion was one of easiest, my first was the toughest and the fourth too, I attributed it to Herceptin given every third week, so I geared for the 7th and it went pretty much ok, nothing in particular. I drink all the time, mostly organic English breakfest with lemon. I have these huge cups, well, if you can call a jar that can hold 800 ml liquid. The tea gets cold and I drink it anyway, poursome water into it I am constntly hydrated. I ran out of lemons today and found two limes, now when I drink my tea it reminds me of DR vacation where I drank everything with lime, tea in the morning but mostly mohitos and Cuba libre on the evenibgs,yes, I am a girl who mixes cola with alcohol. And every morning before breakfest I ran two miles along the shore and I told myself look at this, you do not know when you will be coming back here. Now in retrospect I can only say it was like I knew something was wrong with me, except that I didn't and felt great until I ate some clams and got big D.

    What is your favourite vacation spot? Any place in US? I was planning to go to California this summer but we decided to do it next year because we already visited NYC this spring. We booked South France in July, I got diagnosed in June and I still cannot believe that we could cancel everything without loosin much money, people who rented to us were so understanding.

    Cherry

  • Cherry-sw
    Cherry-sw Member Posts: 997
    edited October 2017

    Bone marrow is a great stuff, I really like it, it is delicious. Do they sell veal or beef cut for Osso bucco where you live? Because it has to have marrow in it. Ask the butcher, they know, Russians always gave bone marrow in their borsch

  • PauletteK
    PauletteK Member Posts: 2,205
    edited October 2017

    Cherry, I don’t see bone marrow in US , I read what you said, now I’m drinking more water. Also we need to keep in mind we need salt when we drink so much water. If you come to California what would you like to see? Ocean? LA? Northern California wineries got burned down now so might now be a good place to visit.

    Rdeeside- I spoke to my old friend who was a BC nurse for long time, she told taxol is not an easy treatment. We can get there, let’s fight this beast!

  • Cherry-sw
    Cherry-sw Member Posts: 997
    edited October 2017

    Paulette, I really have a plan for California, if so could choose I would fly to Vancouver, a couple of days, then to Seattle, then rent a car and drive down to SanFrancisco, stay in a Bay area. I have a friend in San-José, she is Chinese too, we used to work together. Her husband got a great job in Silicon Valley so they moved. So to meet her, Redwood National Park, drive down to LA, Grand Canyon, maybe even LAS Vegas. But I am not sure about the initial part, can be too expensive so more realistic would be to go to San Francisco and then the rest. But I am not sure it is going to happen next summer, I will have Herceptin for the rest of the year.

    Cherry

  • PauletteK
    PauletteK Member Posts: 2,205
    edited October 2017

    Cherry, if you do, let me know, I grew up in SF and I live in Bay Area. I went to school in San Jose best time to see Bay Area is around September after summer so you won’t run into that many tourists. Do not miss the coast line it’s beautiful.

  • Cherry-sw
    Cherry-sw Member Posts: 997
    edited October 2017

    PauletteK, I absolutely will, thank you! Nothing beats having advice about what to visit from people who live where you are goi

  • SimplySammi11
    SimplySammi11 Member Posts: 70
    edited October 2017

    Hey ladies, I noticed you said there was a FB group for the ones in this group. If I misunderstood I could always make one. In this format it’s harder for me to post and keep up with everyone.

    My FB name is Sammi Rosen within Heather as my profile picture. Please feel free to add me. That way I can read your posts and follow everyone better.

    Thought I had posted and update last Friday and was letting you guys know Heather’s mass actually feels half the size it did last Wednesday. That happened in 2 days after her 2nd Taxol treatment.

    Let me know the link to the FB group or if there’s not one made already I can make a group just for us that have been posting in here and for anyone that would like to join it that’s going through everything about the same time as you ladies❤️🙏🏼💪🏼

    Samm

  • PauletteK
    PauletteK Member Posts: 2,205
    edited October 2017

    hi Sammi,

    That’s good news for Heather I bet you are so happy now. I have a pink sister group and we have few ladies joined already. I’m going to see I can find you now

  • Cherry-sw
    Cherry-sw Member Posts: 997
    edited October 2017

    Sammi, what a great news, hope it wipes it out for good.

  • rdeesides
    rdeesides Member Posts: 459
    edited October 2017

    Sammi, such great news about Taxol! Im sure that’s a big relief

  • emily_mh
    emily_mh Member Posts: 53
    edited October 2017

    leatherette, sorry I haven't read in awhile. Yes, I thought #4 was the most difficult. I just had #5 last Wednesday and it's not as bad as number 4. Except that I am really worn out. I am fine if I'm in bed doing absolutely nothing but if I exert any energy I start to get a little nauseous. I had these horrible esophageal spasms after #4- felt like really bad pressure in my upper abdomen. Oncologist gave me a prescription Prilosec and it has helped.


    How is your number 5

  • PauletteK
    PauletteK Member Posts: 2,205
    edited October 2017

    Emily , I have some stomach gas problem with taxol now I’m taking some Pepcid AC that made me feel better now. I’m very fatigue also especially when I don’t have enough sleep. Hope I can sleep like a puppy every night.

  • KByTheLake
    KByTheLake Member Posts: 52
    edited October 2017

    what fantastic news, Sammi! I'm glad you're joining our Facebook group!

    This week I am spending long days at a writing retreat on Madeline Island. The instructor had bc in 2000 so she is very compassionate and encourages me to rest when necessary. (I took two short naps yesterday.) i also slept 12 hours last night--I'll be completely tuckered out by Friday when it ends--but it is oh, so worth it! I am so excited to return to the book I'm writing and to exercise my writing muscles! I'm a happy woman this week

  • Leatherette
    Leatherette Member Posts: 448
    edited October 2017

    Emily, I get number 5 on Thursday. Thanks for posting-I have a little hope now!

    Sammi, great news! See you in FB land.

    K, writing retreat sounds great! Glad you are having fun!

    Cherry, I'm in Seattle.....


  • PauletteK
    PauletteK Member Posts: 2,205
    edited October 2017

    Leatherette - send you prayers and good vibes. I will have my #6 on Friday.

    K - I didn’t know you’re a writer. Would love to read it one day.


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