Sentinel node biopsy question

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Kahnartist
Kahnartist Member Posts: 111

My bmx is scheduled 10/19. I am wondering about the nodes. So, the take out the main one(S) that would be the first to possibly have cancer. So do they look at them right there so they know if they need more or are they sent to pathology and you may have to go back and get more out if they are positive


Thanks

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  • lrwells50
    lrwells50 Member Posts: 254
    edited October 2017

    My sentinel node biopsy was a week to 10 days before my BMX, so they knew the nodes were negative

  • Cpeachymom
    Cpeachymom Member Posts: 518
    edited October 2017

    During my surgery they took the sentinel nodes and had pathology look at them during the surgery to check for metastasis. All clear. But then they sent them out for final pathology...Not all clear! So my surgeon was torn between going back in to take more or not. She recommended I get a second opinion. I ended up not having more surgery, turned down chemo, and am currently doing radiation and anti hormones. You should definitely ask your surgeon. Best of luck to you

  • BellasMomToo
    BellasMomToo Member Posts: 305
    edited October 2017

    My SN was tested during my mastectomy (it was clear), then sent out for the final pathology (which fortunately was also clear). Before surgery, I signed papers authorizing my surgeon to take more nodes if the SN wasn't clear.

  • Cliffyw
    Cliffyw Member Posts: 34
    edited October 2017

    Before surgery, they will use a dye to trace the lymphatic system. This will tell them what nodes are the sentinels (where the dye goes to first) and they will remove them during the surgery. Once removed, they will send them to a pathologist for an intraoperative analysis. If this comes back clean, they won't remove more. If one or more come back positive, they could remove a larger chunk of nodes. Note the intraoperative pathology is not as thorough as the one they will do post surgery. For example, with my wife, her sentinel nodes came back clean during surgery, but the post-operative analysis used a special stain that discovered isolated tumor cells.

  • Kahnartist
    Kahnartist Member Posts: 111
    edited October 2017

    thank you Bellasmomto, cliffyw, and cpeachymom.

    Cliffyw, what happened when you guys got the positive pathology? Did she need more out or did she get chemo

  • Cliffyw
    Cliffyw Member Posts: 34
    edited October 2017

    For us, they determined that since ITC are clinically node negative, they wouldn't remove more nodes. To my understanding that is the usual practice. However, depending on different characteristics of the tumor, and probably also up to your medical team, they sometimes will remove other nodes even if with ITC.

  • NotVeryBrave
    NotVeryBrave Member Posts: 1,287
    edited October 2017

    You should check with the hospital where your surgery is scheduled. Not all hospitals test during the surgery. And if they do, as previously stated, it isn't always accurate.


  • gb2115
    gb2115 Member Posts: 1,894
    edited October 2017

    There are a few ways they can do this. For me, I had 3 nodes removed during sentinel node biopsy. A week later I found out that 1 had about 2.1 mm of cancer in it. The others were clear. Going to take the rest out was never mentioned or offered. Instead they radiated the area.

  • bravepoint
    bravepoint Member Posts: 404
    edited October 2017

    The hospital I had surgery at does not check during surgery. I only found out 10 days later that 1 of 5 was positive.

  • Kahnartist
    Kahnartist Member Posts: 111
    edited October 2017

    gb2115 that is my fear. I think I will just assume nothing is true until pathology. I hate that.

    Bravepoint, I checked with mine and they do check but "nothing is 100% until final pathology"

    Thank you all! I am getting more and more nervous but mostly due to unknowns and waiting anxiety rather than the actual surgery. Cancer exhausts me.

  • vampeyes
    vampeyes Member Posts: 1,227
    edited October 2017

    Kahnartist,

    I met with some women last week that have are coming to the end of their treatment and one of them told me that right now what we are going through, the waiting, is the worst part of our whole diagnosis. My SNB and Lumpectomy are tomorrow morning, not nervous yet, but not sure it has fully set in. When is your surgery?

  • Kahnartist
    Kahnartist Member Posts: 111
    edited October 2017

    vampeyes,

    Good luck! Right behind you on Thursday.

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