Starting radiation September 2017

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  • carmstr835
    carmstr835 Member Posts: 388
    edited September 2017

    MamaOz, I was on arimidex in March until my chemo started in mid May. They stopped it when I did my 6 cycles of chemo I won't be going back on arimidex after my radiation, we are going to use tamoxifen, not sure when, but I can't take arimidex anymore, is raises my BP and my cholesterol.

    I finished 13/30 treatment, still no color changes at all, but I do have underarm pain, I think is related to the aspirated seromas, they just aspirated both of them this week on wednesday, under each arm. Both arms are quite painful, quite a bit more pain than when they aspirated them this past august. The worse pain is my left underarm and that is not supposed to be radiated, only the right side. So not sure if the pain is even related to the radiation treatments. Both arms are tight and painful to stretch out, more so than before radiation. I am seeing a PT twice a week for my cording and shoulder issues. I also have a nerve issue with my right scapula since my mastectomies, we are working on in PT and there is some improvement.

    I have also decided to do reconstruction in 6 months so that will begin in April. I don't like the prosthetics and I was called a "sir" the other day and well, that sort of helped to push me into doing something. But they must wait for 6 months after radiation. So that is April for me. Fingers still crossed for no skin issues so far, let's hope we all make it with very little issues :)

  • MamaOz
    MamaOz Member Posts: 432
    edited September 2017

    interesting carms! Do you have the expanders in? I chose not to do recon .. I use fluff in theses fill triangles ( you can fill as you want) and use these in a coobie bra so its very light.

    Looks like an A cup and so far im ok.. do I miss my really nice B cup boobs .. yes... but just the tought of still having expanders in my surgery was end of May and would now be another 6 or more months in before autoglumous tissue placement then another surgery for implants ... so I can have mounds.. I just. Want to move beyond this... bit then Im 63 ...

    but I know what you mean its tough on the brain... please let me know how it goes!



  • carmstr835
    carmstr835 Member Posts: 388
    edited September 2017

    Will do MamaOz, I have no expanders they are planning a Diep where they take my belly fat and skin. I get a tummy tuck out of it, and I am 62 so it is a good benefit for me. I will be a B cup, but if I am not happy, 3 months later they can increase it to a C cup with a small implant. I was a DD, but I really don't like wearing a bra, so I think I will be happy with the B cup.

    I am thinking there is something wrong with my left under arm. It is quite swollen and even more painful. Not sure I can make it through the weekend, I might have to call after hours. I wonder if I might have gotten an infection when they aspirated it Wednesday, or a blood clot, it is something not right, I had this aspirated before and never had this issue.

  • bmm11071
    bmm11071 Member Posts: 13
    edited September 2017

    Finally the weekend! 10 treatments completed and doing well. Skin pink and a little irritated. Ibuprofen really helps. Hope everyone is doing well

  • JennD
    JennD Member Posts: 29
    edited September 2017

    Happy Rads free weekend everyone!

    bmm, how many treatments total will you be having? I'm in Canada and we usually get around 16 treatmentsand sometimes boosts. Just finished 12 and my RO says I'm reacting a bit more than usual so I will have to take days off before boosts. I hope you continue to do well with your treatments. My skins is definitely looking forward to a break before my final 4 next week

  • MamaOz
    MamaOz Member Posts: 432
    edited September 2017

    oh my that doesnt sound good! I know the rads cause inflamation which gets puffy under my arm area where nodes were taken , my PT helps massage it down ...

    Can you call the R

  • Kaso
    Kaso Member Posts: 61
    edited September 2017

    Did any effects (fatigue and or color/size changes) of radiation continue when the sessions were done? And, how soon after did your MOM guide you to start the inhibitor?

  • MommyErin
    MommyErin Member Posts: 187
    edited September 2017

    Bromeliad- Congratulations!

    GlasgowGirl- Glad you're almost to the finish line with minimal SEs. You've got this!

    Shelabela- Thanks for the tip! I'll definitely try it!

    MamaOz- Hoping you finish this Friday as well!

    Anyone feel like their immune system is weaker going through radiation? I avoided getting sick the whole 4 months I was receiving chemo (granted, I was getting neulasta shots as well), but now I have this cold/cough that I just can't kick. I've pretty much lost my voice for the past 6 days as well and I'm worried that may be due in part to the radiation (since they're radiating my supraclav/neck area) and not just the cold. Bhleh! I hate being sick!

    Have a wonderful weekend


  • Canela
    Canela Member Posts: 26
    edited September 2017

    Kaso, I actually started my aromatase inhibitor last week as per my MO's instructions, and my RO is fine with it. I got my first Lupron injection a few days after starting rads and MO said to start exemestane two weeks later, that's it's fine to take during rads.

    I'm considering joining a clinical trial for a CD4/CD6 inhibitor, and that one I wouldn't be able to start until I'm done with rads.

  • Northwest
    Northwest Member Posts: 1
    edited October 2017

    I had a lumpectomy September 1 and they are recommending radiation. My margins were clear and lymph node negative. I will take the hormone pills but wondering about radiation and if I really need it. I found my own lump and it was 2cm. Any advice? Thanks

  • FridayYet
    FridayYet Member Posts: 45
    edited October 2017

    Hi Northwest. When I was deciding, I was told there was a large reduction of the local recurrence rate if you undergo radiation. (I think 40% reduced chance of local recurrence, but I'm not positive of the number.) It was enough to tip the scales in favor of radiation for me.

    Welcome, and sorry you need to be here. :)


  • Blipkitty
    Blipkitty Member Posts: 15
    edited October 2017

    Hi Northwest,

    I hope your lumpectomy recovery has been going well. FridayYet is right that a lumpectomy and radiation combined offer the best possible reduction in potential recurrence. My BS and RO shared as I was making treatment decisions that a lumpectomy and radiation are a package deal. It can be scary when the Dx of Breast Cancer is given and then making these choices. I am 4/30 radiation treatments in and have found great comfort in the experiences of the women in this community. Whatever you decide, we all send you strength.

    Kindest regards,

    Blipkitty

  • bmm11071
    bmm11071 Member Posts: 13
    edited October 2017

    Jennd- I will have 16 treatments and 7 boosts. Northwest- radiation is a tough decision. I really had a tough time deciding; especially since my diagnosis was DCIS. I did allot of research and decided to do it since I am grade 3 and did not get clear margins. It is a very personal decision and once you make it; don't look back. I have been fortunate- so far it has not been too bad. My skin is a bit pink and sensitive. I have allot of fatigue this weekend but I think I have really been overdoing it. Good luck on making your decision and make sure you are comfortable with it- it is your decision. I did go and talk to my personal physician who I trusted the most and he really helped me with my decision.

  • MelDent
    MelDent Member Posts: 16
    edited October 2017

    Hi Northwest,

    The evidence does support a lumpectomy with radiation decreases the recurrence by a lot. 1/3 will have a recurrence without radiation, within 5 years. If you have radiation then your chance is less that 5%. My surgeon would not do a lumpectomy without radiation anymore.

    Hope that helps alleviate some missgivings.

    I'm almost 1/2 way and have had hardly any side effects. I know they'll show up, eventually!

    Take care!

  • mbbklyn
    mbbklyn Member Posts: 3
    edited October 2017
    Hi, I also had mixed feelings about radiation - but I am not taking Arimidex or another med so I decided the radiation treatment would be beneficial.I only have four left (of 20) and have been feeling fine. One or two days I felt a bit tired. My skin looks fine - just a bit like it's tanned - no real issues so far at all.
  • deedledee
    deedledee Member Posts: 63
    edited October 2017

    I also had thoughts of not having radiation. I realized as a burn victim I could have ptsd reactions. But I didn't put this together until after lumpectomy. I discussed with RO. I was a good candidate for the shorter 3 week course so we went with that. I'm 1 week since my last Rad. I have done well physically with the worst right now being the red bumps looking and feeling like a rash at the Lymph node site. Emotionally though I had a difficult day yesterday. Anyone else having concentration and brain fog from radiation? I'm hoping it's just everything finally hitting me and fatigue, but I'm surprised and disconcerted with this new event.

  • Vixen17
    Vixen17 Member Posts: 3
    edited October 2017

    hi deedledee, try manuka honey (umf rated) on the radiation site, it works! I had external radiation 2x/day for 5 days amd just got a little pink. I only had about 5-6 bumps for 2 days then they were gone. I continued using it 1 week after I finished treatment. Google it, I'm telling you, it works. I put saran wrap on it to keep it from getting on my clothes. ☺

    Good luck and take care! Vixen17

  • deedledee
    deedledee Member Posts: 63
    edited October 2017

    Thanks Vixen. I'll check it out. ((( hugs)))

  • MamaOz
    MamaOz Member Posts: 432
    edited October 2017

    mommaerin, im supposed to finish this friday the 6th

    And ive been on antibiotics this past week for a UTI

    Also had a touch of chest congestion and sore throat and even though i was told it was inflamation from rads the antibiotic helped ease it a bit

    Also advil helps inflamation

  • Kaso
    Kaso Member Posts: 61
    edited October 2017

    I thought I had "radiation brain", but I am told my brain fog is actually my anxiety. (There are unresolved diagnostic issues that are not being addressed quickly enough.) I wish it was the radiation, as my stress level is out of control.

  • deedledee
    deedledee Member Posts: 63
    edited October 2017

    I hope you get your diagnostic issues resolved soon Kato. I was better yesterday but surely not myself yet. I guess I'm going to have to give myself some patience like we do for others. Don't like the inconsistency...thinking were moving on and back to normal then bam..in your face reminder we don't have all the control and choices we once did.

  • VLH
    VLH Member Posts: 1,258
    edited October 2017

    YES TO EXPERIENCING RADIATION BRAIN!!! I was going to bring up that very subject today.

    I finished my 16 radiation sessions last Friday. By Sunday morning, I was a hot mess. I kept saying to myself, "I feel like my brain is broken." I'm not feeling particularly anxious and, frankly, I think many doctors say stress or anxiety is at fault for myriad problems if there isn't a tidy blood test or scan to quantify our symptoms. Kaso, I'm NOT saying that's true for you. When our mind is swirling with unresolved questions and fears about worst-case scenarios, there is no question that it impacts our ability to think.

    Back to symptoms, I was looking for the K-cup that I'd gotten out for my coffee, only to realize I was holding it in my hand. I had to run out for a quick errand, couldn't find my phone, then realized it was in my right pocket. I've carried it in my left pocket for at least two years. There have been several other incidents like that as well as searching for words much more than usual, and I say that as someone who's had fibromyalgia brain fog since the late 1980s and was NOT this "disconnected" during five months of chemo.

    With numerous delays, I didn't even start radiation until six months after my last chemo so the timing certainly suggests the radiation is at fault. Why don't we hear more about this? I asked my radiation oncologist about follow-up care. She won't see me again. If they don't ask about symptoms experienced in, say, the month following treatment, is it any surprise that they think our side effects are minimal, only visible skin damage, or perhaps a little fatigue? Sorry that this note is so rambling. I rest my case about radiation brain!

    Lyn

  • violamama
    violamama Member Posts: 5
    edited October 2017

    Hello everyone! I am almost done with my rads, just finished number 21 out of 25. Lots of fatigue and mild skin irritation. Overall it has been pretty manageable! My back story....I'm 38 and was diagnosed with DCIS in May, had BMX in June and they did not get clean margins so am now having radiation. My cancer was large, 8.5 cm and ER/PR negative. This week I noticed an enlarged lymph node in the armpit of my treated side. I'm wondering if it is a side effect of treatment, or if I should bring it up at my next RO visit. I feel self conscious bringing it up, especially to my RO, because lymph nodes were negative after my mastectomy and now the radiation should definitely have killed everything off, but it's so hard not to worry about all these little things after this journey. Thank you!

  • Legomaster225
    Legomaster225 Member Posts: 672
    edited October 2017

    Definitely bring it up. I do not think it is unusual to have swollen lymph nodes during rads treatment though. There is a lot of trauma going on in there even if you can't see it. My BS wants another ultrasound of my nodes but told me to wait until everything calms down after radiation.

  • Eleanor1960
    Eleanor1960 Member Posts: 9
    edited October 2017

    Hi All - Just discovered this group. I received treatment 11 out of 20 today. I am exhausted; I left "tired" behind in the rearview window yesterday. I am having outright pain in my breast. The RO palpated it extensively last Thursday and can still feel my seroma (that was drained back in June). She is not concerned about it, but I think it must be related to the pain I am experiencing (no fever, no discharge, doesn't seem to be infected). She seems to think it is nerve pain related to the surgery back in March (in her words, the "natural timetable for the nerves to begin firing again.") It is not tingling pain but actual pain. The breast is pink, especially around the nipple. It hurts when I roll over at night, when anything touches it and sometimes for no reason at all. I am using Advil, and I think it helps a little. I just was NOT expecting pain with radiation. The good news is that I am halfway done, although I am not looking forward to the boost week. I certainly wish none of us needed this discussion forum, but it helps to hear from the rest of you out there who are doing the same thing. Thank you for sharing!

  • shelabela
    shelabela Member Posts: 584
    edited October 2017

    Hi ladies, as the same with all you I am so scattery. So I am not sure i can respond to each of you.

    But hope things are going good.

    So far 12 of 15 and my skin is itchy. Omg does it itch. Nice and pink also. only 3 more to go.


  • MamaOz
    MamaOz Member Posts: 432
    edited October 2017

    viola yes make sure to bring it to drs attention..

    Im 25 of 28! Definately getting redder and my right arm feels stiff.. had 29 nodes removed..

    and yes ive been in a fog... and its hard to snap out of it, its so hard to explain to anyone .. but Im glad theres some of you experienceing same. So im not nuts ..

    Anyone started arimidex yet .. Im just staring down my bottle .. dreading this next phase..but will at lesst wait till after friday and rads are done

    Mamaoz


  • bmm11071
    bmm11071 Member Posts: 13
    edited October 2017

    I am 11/23 rads and I am totally exhausted. I wasn't expecting to be so tired at this point. A challenge to do anything right now. So difficult to keep up with work. I can't imagine this getting worse. Really stressed about this. The good news is that my skin is holding up pretty well; just pink and like a sunburn. I know it will get better but this is tough right now.

  • carmstr835
    carmstr835 Member Posts: 388
    edited October 2017

    Hi everyone. I am doing ok, my underarm feels like it is burning sometimes, but no discoloration where the pain is. It is intermittent. I do have a small 2 cm circle discoloration under my arm that is being radiated. I have no feeling there, so it doesn't bother me. My surgeon measured it and wants to keep an eye on it, it could be a form of infection in the tissue caused by the radiation. He said nothing to worry about. What I am worried about is my seroma under my other arm. It has been aspirated twice now, 5 weeks ago about (15 ml aspirated) that is a guess, not sure on the amount, it wasn't recorded, but it was 2 syringes, it came back in about 4 days with more pain. I waited 4 weeks then it was aspirated last wednesday (7 ml aspirated) and it was back the same day and the pain was quite substantial. He aspirated it again today, 6 days later (12 ml aspirated). He said he wants to do it again Friday, if it comes back again. It is back already and not even a full day.

    Radiation issues seem rather minimal for me. No bad pain, not much skin issues and no more machine breakdowns! I do have a lot more cording in my radiated arm and into my chest area that was not there before. I was doing so well regarding the cording but today, it was all corded up and tight again. Good thing I have a wonderful physical therapist that can break up the developing cording and keep my range of motion doing pretty well. So far I have completed 15 of 30 treatments. Here's to us getting this done and dealing with the most minimal issues!

  • deedledee
    deedledee Member Posts: 63
    edited October 2017

    I agree vlh! Lose things and can't find the words or names.

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