Good news today--my tumor is ER+/PR+

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swg
swg Member Posts: 461
edited September 2017 in Just Diagnosed

This is good, right? That means they can treat it with hormone suppressing drugs?

Or maybe I should just get my ovaries removed..I'm thinking perhaps I should get genetic testing to see if I'm in danger of ovarian cancer..

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  • swg
    swg Member Posts: 461
    edited September 2017

    The nurse just told me about the hormone receptor status over the phone..I'm picking up the complete report today. I'll report back.

    I was thinking, can I just get my ovaries removed,since I'm 50 and I don't need em anyway, but then I was reading that estrogen can be produced elsewhere besides the ovaries. Dangit.

  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited September 2017

    Hi Swg,

    It's great you're starting to get more answers, and as you do, you're plan for treatment will start to come to light. To read up on what your hormone receptor status means for you, check out the main Breastcancer.org site's section on Hormone Receptor Status. There's also additional info on the Your Diagnosis section which will help explain the rest of your pathology report pieces.

    We hope this helps!

    --The Mods

  • swg
    swg Member Posts: 461
    edited September 2017

    Thank you so much! Yeah..I'm learning a lot. It's like you have to give yourself a crash course in this disease, when you find out you have it!

  • swg
    swg Member Posts: 461
    edited September 2017

    OK I got the results back. I am HER2 NEGATIVE.

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited September 2017

    That's good news about your hormonal status! But there's no reason to get your ovaries removed. Even if you did that you would need to take an anti-hormonal for protection against recurrence. Best wishes!

  • Castigame
    Castigame Member Posts: 752
    edited September 2017

    Swg,

    Your hormone receptor staus is a good news for sure.

    About ovary removal, there is huge disadvantage which is medically induced premature menopause. Unless you are like me 100% ER+ and mom had ovarian and breast cancer, I would not.

    Well damned if you do damned if you don't. There are advantages of ovary removal. If you keep ovaries and need hormone blockers, you need periodic hormone suppression shots w hormone blocker likely Tamoxifen. Tamox tends to be less taxing than other hormone blockers (less side effects) but it is known to thicken uterine lining.And some say Tamox increases likelihood of uterine cancer. And I believe periodic transvaginal ultrasound is recommended while you are on it. Lupron, hormone suppression shots do have side effects.


    Many BC sisters like non removal route first to see how their bodies react to hormone shots likely Lupron and Tamoxifen based on what I have read on this website. There are lot of That is after you finish all mission critical treatments.

    Mimi

  • beach2beach
    beach2beach Member Posts: 996
    edited September 2017

    hormonal therapy will be on the table for you. Great that you are Her2- I'm 51 and started tamoxifen last week. The adrenals make bits of estrogen too.

  • Michelle_in_cornland
    Michelle_in_cornland Member Posts: 1,689
    edited September 2017

    Definitely speak with your Oncologists about the pros and cons of removing your ovaries. I was going to have to be on ovarian suppression meds for up to 2 years, and I decided to have mine removed. Best decision for me. I feel really great, take 50,000 units of Vitamin D per week, walk almost everyday. Prior to ovarian removal, my iron was low, vitamin d was low, had to have iron infusions. Now my iron is perfect and no more cycles. Also, no more risk of reproductive cancers, or minimal risk.

  • swg
    swg Member Posts: 461
    edited September 2017

    I've had borderline anemia and iron problems, too!

    My sister had endometriosis. So..ovarian problems run in the family. In fact, I was wondering if I should get a genetic test for susceptibility to Ovarian or uterine cancer.

  • Hahlyn
    Hahlyn Member Posts: 179
    edited September 2017

    I didn't think being diagnosed with Breast cancer was good News at all regardless of your er pr status. But I guess you have to look at every silver lining.

  • swg
    swg Member Posts: 461
    edited September 2017

    Would I rather NOT have breast cancer? Of course.

    But yes, I'm looking at the bright side of things. I found it early and I have the kind with the best prognosis.

    My best friend died of this disease 15 years ago and my chances are way better than hers were. We know so much more about this disease now.

    So yes I consider myself lucky because it could be a lot worse.

  • Meshell5324
    Meshell5324 Member Posts: 54
    edited September 2017

    Hi SWG, I'm 51 and my MO seemed pleased that my ER/PR was 95-100% + and HER2 - so I choose to take that as good news too. He mentioned Tamoxifen but nothing definite yet. I have my MRI on Monday and should have my Mammoprint back by then. Then onto surgery recommendations. I was going to ask then about my ovaries and if having them removed would be beneficial or not.So much waiting.

  • swg
    swg Member Posts: 461
    edited September 2017

    Yeah, I'm betting we will both end up on Tamoxifen, even if we get our ovaries removed, as a post surgery precaution. I'm seeing my new surgeon on Monday. I'm curious if she'll suggest chemo..I guess you can do an OncotypeDX which helps the oncologists decide what your risk of recurrence is and if it's high, they usu suggest chemo...keep me posted!

  • swg
    swg Member Posts: 461
    edited September 2017

    Just curious..have you gone through menopause yet? I haven't..

  • Meshell5324
    Meshell5324 Member Posts: 54
    edited September 2017

    Nope still regular as clock work. My MO sent in for the Mammoprint instead of the OncotypeDX but it test for the same thing. He really doesn't think I'll benefit from chemo at this point. But that could change. So far it looks like surgery-mastectomy (single) radiation (still hasn't said yes or no) hormone therapy. Everything gets reviewed by my whole team so sometimes things change. I'm getting a little impatient. :-(. Good luck with your appointment on Monday. Keep me posted too.



  • swg
    swg Member Posts: 461
    edited September 2017

    I can understand the impatience!

    Doesn't HER2 negative mean it's a little slower growing tumor than if it was positive?

    Anyway from what i've read, a month from diagnosis to surgery is pretty standard, and I don't think there's a difference in outcomes til you get past 2 months.

  • Kahnartist
    Kahnartist Member Posts: 111
    edited September 2017

    hi all. I also got my news about being ER+/PR+, HER2-

    I also am waiting for genetic testing results. Today I am getting my IUD removed (not thrilled about the process). I was in the pill for years and just got this thing in May. I don't want anything in me that makes or feeds hormones. I feel like I have a cancer feeding tube in my uterus right now.

    Thanks for sharing your info. It helps me to see and hear similar diagnosis stories.

  • FarAwayToo
    FarAwayToo Member Posts: 255
    edited September 2017

    Just curious, if any of you with HR+/HER2- where told your Ki67. Mine is high, therefore - chemo. I'm going to get Mammaprint score too, as part of the clinical trial I'm participating, but my oncologist was pretty sure it would come back high risk. With that she offered me neoadjuvant chemo. 

  • Meshell5324
    Meshell5324 Member Posts: 54
    edited September 2017

    Hi FarAwayToo,

    My Ki67 was 25% - I guess anything over 20% is high. My oncologist ordered a mammaprint which isn't back yet. I feel like a ping pong ball. Lol. The first surgeon said neoadjuctive chemo followed by lumpectomy and sent me to the oncologist. When I saw the oncologist he said it's grade 1 but the Ki67 is 25% that's a conflict we need to figure out. If you won't statically do better with chemo then I'm going to recommend a mastectomy. ( It's a fairly large area of dcis and Idc.) I asked him for a breast surgeon refferal-since my first surgeon didn't specialize in BS. I see her tomorrow and hope I don't get sent back over the net. But If I do that's ok - I Want to make sure I don't miss anything! Still waiting is driving menuts.

  • FarAwayToo
    FarAwayToo Member Posts: 255
    edited September 2017

    Meshell, I like your thinking - you need all the info you need. My oncologist was a little skeptical about the grade, too. My Ki67 is 40% (40-50 according to another pathologist review), and grade is 2. She said that Ki67 is more objective than grade. I read here that a lot of oncologists think otherwise. She explained, that 1/3 of the grade is determined by mitosis, and it is very subjective measurement. For Ki67 they stain the tissue, so it is more accurate somehow.

    Anyway, she said regardless of my node status (mine are not showing as affected on imaging, which doesn't mean they are clear, of course), based on the tumor size (2.8cm based on MRI), age (40) and Ki67, she would recommend chemo. My Mammaprint should be back tomorrow. I'd love her to be wrong, but sadly, I don't think she will be.

  • FarAwayToo
    FarAwayToo Member Posts: 255
    edited September 2017

    Kahnartist, can you have them replace your IUD with a copper one? (I'm assuming you have Mirena). My onc was thrilled that I already have Paraguard. Not sure if they do that - take one out and put another, but you probably don't want to be without birth control. (Although, I know for me sex is the last thing on my mind right now).

  • swg
    swg Member Posts: 461
    edited September 2017

    My Ki67 is 10%, which I guess is on the border.

  • Wonderwoman386
    Wonderwoman386 Member Posts: 48
    edited September 2017

    farawaytoo: ive been trying to decide which non hormonal birthcontrol to use, since this diagnosis I've been off the pill and weve been using condoms, have you read or heard anthing negative about having the paraguard and breast cancer? You said your MO was pleased you have one, do you need radiation? Have you heard amything negative about paraguard and radiation? I'm 31 and am trying to decide the safest method for us!

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