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  • LTWJ
    LTWJ Member Posts: 121
    edited August 2017

    Thank you SpecialK, I see the side effects for it and it scares me. Just trying to stay positive without more problems. Glad to hear # 6 was better

  • Cherry-sw
    Cherry-sw Member Posts: 997
    edited August 2017

    Hi Laura,

    I am so sorry that you are having all those troubles. Taxotere is not easy but you have only one left and then it is over. The surgery will not ususally take place right after chemo, I believe there must be at least a month in between, and after a month hou will feel so much better. Now I am new to this myself and only done two chemos but everybody says it gets better. And having surgery after chemo is the only way to see whether your tumor will have response to the drug which is not possible when you first have surgery and later chemo. Is the area where you live in TX affected by the flood too? I am not in US, I live in Sweden, but I saw on the news. I wish you will feel better soon, Cherr

  • kae_md99
    kae_md99 Member Posts: 621
    edited August 2017

    could hypersensitive teeth be a side effects of chemo? my teeth are super sensitive right now....

  • LTWJ
    LTWJ Member Posts: 121
    edited August 2017

    thank you cherry-SW. We are farther north and not really affected but my husbands family is and it's scary. I've decided not to take tne Cymbalta and try other methods. I just hate that my onco just chases everything with another prescription with worse side effects. I have to go back to work soon to keep my health insurance and I need to reduce these SE to do so. Just got to keep the positive ideas in my head :

  • kae_md99
    kae_md99 Member Posts: 621
    edited August 2017

    LTwJ,


    how about taxotere dose reduction in the last cycle

  • BJI
    BJI Member Posts: 154
    edited August 2017

    Met with RO this morning for 3 month check, everything looks great, he doesnt need to see me again! Had 3 month echo done, results in few days. Its been a week since my first herceptin only, really havent noticed anything, no bone pain, nothing. I did have mild headache couple of times, chalked it up to not enough liquids. Understand it may take a while for fatigue to get better. Traveling this weekend to help daughter and SIL celebrate birthdays.

  • Lita19901
    Lita19901 Member Posts: 211
    edited August 2017

    LTWJ et.al. - I recently read a study about peripheral neuropathy and Cymbalta and it's affect on diabetic PN and it was kinda funny. 30% of the people in the study who received Cymbalta felt improvement in their symptoms - but 34% of people who got the placebo also felt improvement -I'd like to know what was in that placebo!

  • Cherry-sw
    Cherry-sw Member Posts: 997
    edited August 2017

    Laura, hang in there, there is no much choice anyway and of what I understood the bone pain after Taxotere does go away. I have been reading this thread from the beginning and your SE are typically Taxotere but it gets better. I hope it will resolve itself for everybody in TX who is affected by this flood, it is very scary I agree, Cherry

  • beachgirl1
    beachgirl1 Member Posts: 4
    edited August 2017

    thanks PatinMN - I appreciate the inf

  • Lita19901
    Lita19901 Member Posts: 211
    edited August 2017

    Hap - yes, PN is one that sometimes improves with time. Conversely, placebos sometimes make people feel better if they don't realize it's a placebo. But it's still kinda amusing that the placebo resulted in a higher perceived improvement than the actual drug!

  • deni1661
    deni1661 Member Posts: 463
    edited August 2017

    beachgirl- sorry about that you find yourself here but this is a great group for information and support. If you can, I would meet with an MO before surgery. It's helpful to find out all your options up front and even go for a second opinion to make sure you are completely comfortable with your treatment choices. I sought out a second opinion because my hometown MO gave me only one option and I just didn't feel comfortable with the "one size fits all" mentality. I knew my current MO was the one within 5 minutes and I'm so glad I didn't just settle.

    Sending prayers and hugs your way as you begin your cancer journey. We are all fighters and you will beat this too 😊
  • deni1661
    deni1661 Member Posts: 463
    edited August 2017

    Today was my last infusion of HP! It was an emotional day for sure but I am so happy to reach this milestone. I am cancer free at the moment and plan to continue with my clean lifestyle of good nutrition, daily exercise and minimal stress. Recurrence is always at the back of my mind but there are many women in this forum that inspire me and give us all hope that we can achieve DFS - Kattis, rozem and Trisha-Anne CONGRATS on your milestones and thanks for updating us on your progress.

    I am grateful for all the support, encouragement and information from everyone in this group as no one else understands what we go through. Sending best wishes and hugs to all.
  • Soxfan75
    Soxfan75 Member Posts: 115
    edited August 2017

    Beachgirl1 – While speaking to your oncologist is important, I think it's just as important to speak to your plastic surgeon. My breast surgeon gave me the option to do a lumpectomy, but when I met with the plastic surgeon, she said that due to the small(er) size of my breast, a lumpectomy would remove at least half of my breast tissue. She said that I wouldn't be happy with the cosmetic results. That affected my decision, but ultimately, I chose a mastectomy because it "felt" like the right thing to do.

    I also did cold capping and was able to retain around 50-60% of my hair. No one besides me and some close friends can tell that I've lost hair, but it does look on the thinner side. I used Arctic Cold Caps. It was a lot of work but absolutely worth it. I did that, in part, for selfish reasons, but also to help make this easier on my kids. I figured they would be able to handle the whole thing easier if I still looked like me.

    Good luck in your decision making.

    LTWJ – My 5th and 6th TCHP treatments really kicked my butt. I'm sorry to hear your neuropathy is so painful. I hope it gets better soon. Just think, in a couple of weeks you'll be looking at chemo in the rear view mirror. It's a fabulous feeling!

    Congratulations deni1661! Wishing many cancer free days ahead!

  • FleurDeLis49
    FleurDeLis49 Member Posts: 46
    edited August 2017

    I have my first appointment with my oncologist tomorrow. Any advice on what to expect, questions to ask, things to take, etc. would be most welcome!

  • Eleanora23
    Eleanora23 Member Posts: 91
    edited August 2017

    HERCEPTION AND ECHO QUESTION UPFRONT: ECHOCARDGRAMS needed after Treatment? After Herceptin is done?

    (then update below): I finished A year of herception in June. I am coming up on three months soon since last echo. Now that I am post-treatment, I'm thinking another echo might still be in order as it takes time for HERCEPTIN to leave the body...is that right? I've been in a kind of information gap during this entire treatment process and my MO / her nurse are not very informative. I also might have bad memory too !

    Thank goodness for the information HERE in these threads! Ya'll are great !

    UPDATE My June first post treatment MAMMO was, thankfully, normal .. Yikes I have forgotten when the next one will be !

    I'll as about my aromatase question on that thread I guess, also my doctors (I switched MOs, and both are really too busy to accomoadate my questions, but the first REALLY was.. ) I see women discussing starting AIs right after surgery? ! I wasn't told to take it until well after radiation. I'm still up and down with my compliance.

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited August 2017

    fleur - take someone with you that can take notes, or ask the doc if you can record with your phone. This is your first consult, correct?

    deni - congrats!

    eleanora - I would advise an echo at the six month point. I started my anti-hormonal a month after my last chemo, and I did not do rads. Some start during rads, some wait to make sure which thing is causing which side effect. I answered your other question about risk on the thread you started a minute ago.

  • Dannajae
    Dannajae Member Posts: 40
    edited August 2017

    Tomorrow I have a genetics assessment, and Friday I see the Radiation Oncologist for the first time. It's unlikely that I have the BRCA gene, but I can't help worrying.

  • Cherry-sw
    Cherry-sw Member Posts: 997
    edited August 2017

    Congratulations deni1661! Wish you DFS for many many years to com

  • FleurDeLis49
    FleurDeLis49 Member Posts: 46
    edited August 2017

    SpecialK - correct, my first time seeing anyone other than my surgeon.

  • Cherry-sw
    Cherry-sw Member Posts: 997
    edited August 2017

    FleurDeLis49, I had my first appointment with oncologist two weeks ago. I was told to make a list of questions but I understood that before I could pose a question I had to know what I wantedto know. I red my diagnosis and a lot of info about it here on the boards. Everything that you do not understand just write it down. The questions about the tumor for ex, what its characteristics mean and how they influence your future life in terms of cancer never coming back. Then probably why they recommend this treatment rather than the other, what are your options pro and cons, SE vs higher dfs. How you can avoid the long term side effects, what would happen to you body while chemo, rads, Tamoxifen etc. What to eat and not, what can you take to prevent SE. Read about Herceptin and ask your questions. Their answers will be more specific If they know what you want to know. This is what I did but I was dissappointed anyway, that there were no tool to predict my case and no way to do monitoring rather than annual mammograms and ultra sounds. This uncertainty is very hard to accept, that things can happen even though you do everything you are supposed to, the treatments and still cannot be enough. This for me was the hardest part. Good luck,Cherry

  • moodyblues
    moodyblues Member Posts: 470
    edited August 2017

    Hey all, I can't seem to find a place to add my Herceptin in on my chemo treatment, it's just not listed.  Any tips on where this may be so that I can add it in?  Herceptin (trastuzumab).  I know there has to be a place because everyone else has it!

     

    Thanks!

    Melanie

  • toughcookie_21
    toughcookie_21 Member Posts: 185
    edited August 2017

    hi Melanie, I just figured that out myself. There's a section under treatments for "targeted treatment." I couldn't find it for a bit either. It's separate from chemotherapy.

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited August 2017

    moody - go to your profile, click on add a new treatment, it should be under targeted therapy treatment.

    fleur - also ask in your consult how you will be followed after treatment. This is a subject that many don't consider when choosing an oncologist - there are a number of different approaches and some are disappointed with how that unfolds when treatment is done, but don't think to ask about it initially because they are so focused on getting treatment started. It can be frustrating if the oncologist is a hands-off type once treatment is done and does not offer periodic bloodwork or imaging beyond mammography/US.

  • emily_mh
    emily_mh Member Posts: 53
    edited August 2017

    Hi all, I've been reading lots of posts and trying to catch up after having not been on the boards for awhile. Some times reading really cheers me up and sometimes it really bums me out. I just had round 3 of TCHP yesterday, 3 down, 3 to go. I'm having a really hard time deciding about surgery. My MO tells me even though I am 46, tumor size was 4cm but has shrunk to 2cm, a triple positive, grade3, aggressive tumor -she says I am a candidate for lumpectomy. When I first was diagnosed back in June, I instantly thought get these things off of me I want a mastectomy. But since I had chemo first and have had time to really read and think -I'm as unsure as ever. MO says she thinks (and she understands) people try to cure the cancer with surgery -but it's really the chemo that is going to decide if your cancer is going to come back. And I know recurrence rate is higher for lumpectomy and survival rate is same. I think I'm leaning towards lumpectomy now.. Also because implants scare the heck out of me. If anyone knows of stats that would be helpful in decision making please let me know but I really am starting to think they just don't exist and I just have to be comfortable with my decision.

    thanks for letting me ramble on... no need to even answer me, it's just good to put this out there.

  • Cherry-sw
    Cherry-sw Member Posts: 997
    edited August 2017

    Hi everybody,

    Here come a list of the products my eldest daughter used for her acne. She never had a severe one but she was upset over every zit and pimple that we tried whatever we found.

    - US products from acne.org (various, some of them pretty strong)

    - Effaclar products from La Roche-Posay, she is still using their wash

    - Basiron (bensoylperoxid) AC Wash gel 5%, this is a product we have in Sweden

    Two prescribed medicines:

    - Isotreotin Actavis 10 mg (pills, worked very well but her liver tests turned not so good she had to stop after a couple of months) the effect lasted for several months

    - Acnatac 10 mg/G + 0,25 mg/G clindamycin + tretinoin (manufacturer Meda) an oinment she is using right now, she says it works

    Cherry

  • Eleanora23
    Eleanora23 Member Posts: 91
    edited August 2017

    Thanks for the reply SPECIAL, I definitely would feel most comfortable having at least the one ECHO post herceptin and will ask for it at my first follow up. !

  • Cherry-sw
    Cherry-sw Member Posts: 997
    edited August 2017

    Hi emily_mh,

    I have already mentioned it here that the glandular tissue can be there up to clavicle, my tumor was above the breast, they missed it on mammogram and the ultra sound in January. There are always be some tissue left. I live in Sweden and here they say that mastectomy vs lumpectomy plus rads are equial with the same survival rates. I also wanted them off but when they explained and said that it will be lumpectomy because mine was technically not in the breast. And also mastectomy scares me too.

    Cherry

  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited August 2017

    HI All,

    Puma Biotechnology has patient communication material about the newly approved drug called NERLYNX . They are looking for people currently on Herceptin to review this 3 page communication and answer the questions below. However, the document is still confidential, so all who review (including us) need to sign a confidentiality agreement.

    If you are interested, please PM us and we'll get you the confidentiality agreement, and the document.

    We, and Puma Biotechnology, greatly appreciate your help with this!

    Best,

    The Mods

    Some of the feedback questions that they would be interested in receiving are the following:

    1. Is this language simple enough to be understandable? If not, what specifically needs to be simplified?
    2. Is there anything we're not explaining fully or clearly enough?
    3. Are there any messages missing?
    4. Are there any messages that are unnecessary?
    5. Are there any messages that raise questions for you?
    6. Are the messages in Stage 1 hitting the right tone and providing the right information for women who are just diagnosed/just starting to plan their treatment?
    7. Are the messages in Stage 2 hitting the right tone and providing the right information for women who are just finishing their Herceptin therapy?
    8. What is the best term to use with care partners when referring to their patients/loved ones?
  • PoseyGirl
    PoseyGirl Member Posts: 359
    edited August 2017

    I'd be up for answering the questions...where do I pm you?

    And I have a question for them...how can a Canadian access the drug privately? I'd like to know who their Canadian partner will be in getting this (I.e. I can get to Perjeta through a company here and just require my oncologist's ok to do it). Thanks

  • FleurDeLis49
    FleurDeLis49 Member Posts: 46
    edited August 2017

    Thanks for the advice for my consult! I'll let you know how it goes.

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