Starting chemo August 2017 - would love some moral support!
Comments
-
tThanks for the good wishes.
Rebekah, take care of yourself. A call to the on call person is a great idea.
OCDAmy. I'll be thinking of you tomorrow.
-
I have a question for the group -- many tips say to start the anti-puke meds ASAP even if you don't need them. (I am all for it by the way!) My calendar from ONC says, start Zofran Day 3, every 8 hours. it does say I can start compazine or ativan as needed on Day 1 (today) and Day 2. So is it the Comp or other that I should start as preventive or nip it i the beginning? I am still on steriods today and tomorrow. Any thoughts or tips on when to start this even if I don't need it?
----
OCDAmy - the infusion itself was uneventful - my first one was today. Now to ride the wave of SE's and manage them. And thanks others on this thread, I am sticking with bland food myself.
KBy - my ONC sent my meds to the pharm directly - not from the infusion center, personally I would push to get them. No one should suffer, they kept telling me that over and over again
R - a fever is the earliest sign of an infection - please call at least and although inconvenient - we want you stay on track, get it early -- do it for yourself, you deserve it. This is for you and your family.
VL22 - you have given me hope beyond day 6! Woohoo
-- I also changed my chemo day from Thursday to Wednesday today - so that I could have the bigger wave hit on the weekend. My little calendar says that my white counts may be low until around Day 9 - trying to figure out when to schedule things outside of chemo treatment -- like pilates 1:1's .. so this will help me.
Stay positive all - we will get through this.
-
Rdeeside- I'm thinking bling about you if you have fever please do not wait. Also watch you body for any chills.
Hi to all the new comers sorry that you join us here. This journey is not an easy road but it is doable. My bad days are day 4-6 and I just passed that yesterday. Today is much better day for me even I got a sore in my mouth but I'm still better than yesterday. As I told my hubby I can't even explain what's bad day means. Day likes that you feel like your whole body wants to shut down.
What we can do is focus on the good day and we know this treatment has a time limits. We will see the end of the rainbow
-
Travel Girl - I started my anti nausea meds as soon as I got home. They did nothing for me, but everyone is different. You just don't want to let the nausea get ahead of you. By day # 4 I felt really bad so called MO and they had me move to Ativan and steroids. This time I have a new game plan. Steroids and Ativan, no Zofran or whatever the other one was that gave me a headache. Knock on wood it works! If not, he's putting me on a patch for #3. But from day 6 on I really felt great.
Hope you feel great too
-
travel girl, I think you are on taxotere/cytoxan like me.... and I'm guessing you got the long acting zofran as one of your premed, because I don't start my zofran until 48 hours after my chemo infusion. I've had really good success with compazine every 8 hours as needed during those first 2 days, when I don't take the zofran. I took it when I came home from chemo, so about 4 hours after my premed, and I took it about every 8 hours those first 2 days, and I had no nausea to speak of during that time (for both of my chemo sessions). Chemo is Friday morning, and I was told to start my zofran on Sunday morning. I did take compazine in between some zofran doses on Sunday (chemo day 3), but I think I was fine with just zofran on days 4 and 5. I think the Ativan makes you more sleepy, so that might be good towards bedtime or if you need to take something in the middle of the night, but the compazine might be a better fit for daytime.
Willow
-
clearpath, I love the way you think about the chemo - so much better to think of it as a knight in shining armor, PAC man, or my own Jedi force sent to take out cancer cells, instead of as the enemy!
Cherry, my husband noticed something kind of similiar on my hand the day of chemo.... the "drumstick" on my hand where the thumbs attach looked really blue, like my skin was super transparent and the blood vessels were really large.... pretty funky looking if my hubby noticed it as I was getting ready for bed! Maybe from the steroids????? Haven't noticed it since then.....
Makeup lover, hope the bone pain is better! Glad you got the printed info Monday because I completely forgot about emailing it to you 😴 I got my period the day after 1st chemo too (argh!), but am very hopeful that will be it during chemo, and fingers crossed that it pushes me into permanent menopause. I'm 55, but I just found out my mom was in her early 60s, and I really don't want it to drag on that much longer!
SusanGA and OCDAmy , Thinking of you for first infusion tomorrow!
K by the lake, I understand your MO recommending OTC pain meds, but am wondering what OTC Med he advises you to take for nausea. The way the pharmacist explained meds during my chemo education session, it sounded like zofran or similiar drugs are the standard, with other prescription meds like compazine, reglan, Ativan etc playing a supporting role, but that every chemo patient should have these to prevent nausea since it is much more difficult to treat it once it has reached a certain level or especially if you start vomiting. I'm also on cytoxan/taxotere, and was told that nausea is expected for about 5 days with that combo, and to be sure to take the compazine right away to keep ahead of it (I start the zofran after 48 hours, and then that is the main med). Everyone is different, but it seems like you should have something stronger/more reliable than ginger ale, crackers, etc to treat nausea and prevent it from becoming a big problem.... if you are having any nausea, it might be good to chat with your clinic on Friday, so that you don't have to deal with the on call doc if you have a problem over the weekend or at night. Mayo Clinic has a good article online about anti-nausea meds for chemo, and I'm sure there are good resources on the breastcancer.org chemo section too.
VL22, glad you feel so well and yay that you love your new look!
Rebekah, hope your temp is down and you have a restful, uneventful night!
Willow
-
not sure if folks want to include this topic on our thread, but Clearpath's way of looking at chemo and someone else's comment about renaming their chemo bag the "wellness bag" started me thinking about how I look at this whole cancer experience. I want to approach it is something that is going to make me healthier and stronger in the long run, and I want to add positive thoughts/gratitudes/personal development notes to my chemo journal in addition to my side effects..... growing through this experience and not just "getting through" it.
Anyway, would you ladies mind if folks shared things they are grateful for or think are a positive result of having cancer, or do you think that should be a separate discussion thread?
For example, I am learning to ask for and accept help, which also involves talking about vulnerabilities instead of "just handling it" myself. I love to help others, but rarely accepted help in the past, and I'm finding that accepting and appreciating the gestures feels as good as when I'm the helper.
Willow
-
Travelgirl: I'm going to chime in here re anti-nausea because I was so confused about all these meds as well, and when to take them. So here goes:
Steroids and Zofran for days 2 & 3. Ativan is for when you feel restlessness/anxiety from steroids, so it is recommended at bedtime. I was told to keep Compazine in my purse, so that I can take it as soon as I feel nauseous. The instructions say every 6 hours or as needed, so I follow this schedule after the Zofran days. The thing with Z is that it causes constipation so you have to take those meds too. Hope this helps!
Rebekah: hope you're feeling better... The week after my first infusion I had a similar issue. I had a 100.3 temp late one night and major bone pain. I freaked out but didn't want to wake anyone up just to take me to the ER.I took Tylenol and it went down after 30 min. The next morning I called the on call doc because I was worried about the never-ending bone pain, and mentioned the high temp. he basically told me to take Tylenol or Advil and to call back if the bone pain or fever persisted. I didn't like that answer so I called my MO's office when they opened. They showed more compassion, but basically told me the same thing. Call back if it persists... At least it gave me peace of mind, knowing that it wasn't deemed serious.
-
For those that have had surgery and/or reconstruction, make sure you are checking your surgery sites during chemo and report anything unusual to your MO or surgeon. I had some dry skin in a small area of my reconstructed breast. This happened around the same time my hair loss started (about 3 weeks ago), and I just moisturized it daily. But a week ago the same area turned purple. I went in to get an expansion on Monday and because it didn't look good I didn't get expanded. My PS prescribed antibiotics.
By today, it improved a bit but there was an area that was tender. She thought there may be pus or some other infection so she went to drain it. Turned out it wasn't pus so she took a culture and will get it tested to find out what it is. I should find out tomorrow.
If there's an infection I may have to pause chemo until it's healed... and if I have to get the tissue expander out then I have to stop chemo and can't resume until the wound from the surgery heals. Hopefully this clears up by next week so I can get my last 2 infusions done. I have one scheduled for next week and then just one more 3 weeks after! If I had said something when I experienced the dry skin it may have been resolved earlier.
-
Rebekah, hope u are better today!
Travelgirl, I'd say take the nausea meds since I waited till I went to sleep and then got sick. I intend on taking them as soon as i get home next time lol.
Lcin, I wanted to preserve my fertility and freeze embryos but time was literally of the essence and my oncologist was adamant that we start treatment asap. So I didn't have time to do this. The fertility doc did do a base ultrasound and bloodwork though, so that once chemo is done I can see how my eggs are doing and maybe THEN we can freeze some. I'm hopeful. I had a miscarriage a month before I discovered my lump, so I was very sad that i couldn't freeze embryos. but again, i try to be hopeful. I do have a lovely 7 year old boy, who brings me so much joy.
My bone pain is getting better, I did call my onc and the nurse said to go ahead and take aleve along with the claritin. but said if it doesnt subside to call again and im assuming she will call in a script for something stronger. I'm hanging in there!
Ladies, have a good Friday!! Stay positive!
-
Hi Willow22 - you asked that we share what may be positive from our cancer experience. My husband and I have had this discussion and our conclusion is that being seriously ill makes you more mindful of your mortality and the need to live every day to the fullest. When you are young and healthy, life seems endless. Once I get through with treatment, we are going to do some of the things we had put off due to lack of time - long European river cruise here we come! But we also concluded that absolutely nothing is more important than spending time with loved ones - family and friends are the key to happiness. This is actually my second serious illness - three years ago I went through open heart surgery. I was also in the Twin Towers on 9/11 when the plane hit. I hope I have 9 lives like a cat!
-
Willow - My view on chemo changed when I was crying to my MO about my delay in chemo. He assured me that we were still in the "sweet spot". Then he looked at me seriously and said "we cut the cancer out, this is just a clean up job, just in case." From that point on I was relaxed. Instead of seeing myself loaded with rogue cancer cells, I see myself as needed a bit of cleaning up. Yes, it's bad, but I know it can be done.
Clearpath - I think you do have nine lives! I've always greatly appreciated each day and my family , but what has changed is we don't put things off. We are campers and went on many weekend trips this summer spontaneously. We're going to Universal Studios with my parents next week and planning a trip out West for next summer. I find myself being more patient in traffic and not so quick to judge.
Some mornings I wake up and I'm still in disbelief that I have breast cancer. None of us deserves it. But I'm going to live life to the fullest
-
Clearpath- you are sure have 9 lives, I'm with you about life. We should live to our fullest do whatever we want to do after this treatment. I told my husband if my cancer recurrences after 10 years I might not go through chemo again. I'm 61 now I don't want to do chemo when I am 71.
I feel like I live in borrow time, each day I thanks God for another day. My life is not the same as BC time
-
Rebekah, How are you doing today? I hope that your fever came down.
How is everyone else doing?
Hugs all
-
Travel_girl, I was told to take 1 Zofran one hour before the infusion started but Zofran was even in the premeds they gave me through the iv. Later I was told to skip Zofran and take another antiemetic called Primperan (I am in Europe) because Zofran contributed to constipation after the steroids.
-
TravelGirl -I started Compazine as soon as returning home from infusion and took every 6 hours, except at night when I took one Ativan before bed. I did not have any significant nausea.
My temp is back to normal and body no longer achy. My canker sores are still horrible but MoM seems to be helping somewhat. Good thing I need to lose weight because I am dropping pounds. Not the healthiest way to do it though. I think I have myself to blame for the canker sores. We eat a pretty Mexican diet (husband is Mexican) and we make homemade salsas. I made one on Monday that was soooo delicious and then I kept thinking "eat what your body craves". hahaha. That does not include salsa. Or chips. Dont do it ladies!
If I can get canker sores under control I will be fine. Has anyone heard of laser treatment for canker sores? A doctor here does it.
-
Willow22, I have noticed it only this one time, otherwise as I got explained this is a part of aging process.
-
Willow and Team - yes, love the idea of sharing things that are positives out of this experience. I too am learning to ask for help and accept help - not only for me, for others around me.
I am working on trying to keep a journal, I find looking back at it in the future helps to keep perspective as well - so that the day to to day of life doesn't let you forget to be grateful. Because we do get past this and we start living again, even if more mindful of mortality.
My daughter is flying in for the weekend today and staying through Monday - I am grateful to have the company and she is happy to be useful and part of the process. The last time I was dx, she was in her second year of university and all I wanted her to do was stay focused on her education - this time she is older and wants to help. I also know that it is hard on her, as she is also worried about herself in all of this - so while that is difficult, we will focus on today. I am going to focus on the quality time and maybe with the help of a little pure CBD oil, relax ride the wave of SE's and enjoy the time.
I started compezine this morning - thanks for the tips all. yes, willow, they told me the chemo pre-meds had some long acting anti-med, which is why they said 2 days later.
-
Just a note to say I really appreciate having you ladies to go through this journey with. I'm so sorry we all need to go through this but I am so impressed at how articulate, caring and funny you all are. This is my first experience joining an online community and I have found it to be very helpful in keeping up my spirits. Only those experiencing this can truly understand what we are going through
-
Sorry people are suffering with mouth sores! They were the worst thing for me last round. They haven't re-emerged this time. I'd like to think it's something I'm doing....biotene toothpaste, toothbrush with a very compact head so it can't hit the inside of my mouth, salt water rinse/waterpik asap after eating anything, and Peroxl hydrogen peroxide mouthwash right before bed. And a big insulated cup of ice water with me at all times. When I had the sores, Ambesol and ibuprofen helped control the pain when I wasn't eating, but nothing stopped the pain when I had to eat something
-
For the positives, I have grown closer to my husband, I try harder to be patient with my daughter, and I'm learning not to do things I really want to do. So what if my house is a little messy or I dont volunteer for the school festival? Yes, there will be times I do want to clean or do want to volunteer, but now I don't feel guilty saying no
-
LCin312--Lake Superior is the center of my world so we aren't that close after all. But I think living near a Great Lake can only help us both, don't you?
My nurse navigator called this morning and was surprised as all y'all about the clinic not sending me home with at least some compazine. She is calling in a prescription even as I write this!
It's day 4 for me and I'm still doing well. I've gone to bed by 12:30 the last two nights and that's a big change for me--I'm a lifelong night owl and usually stay up until 2:00 or 3:00am. No bone pain though. And eating blander has kept the big D at bay. Last night I had two boiled eggs and a blueberry PopTart for dinner. Nowhere near as good as the pizza I had the night before but no digestive issues, either!
I'm generally a pretty positive person and have a hard time staying down for very long. I had two really dark days when I found out I needed chemo, even wondering if my life was worth fighting for. But I have an unending supply of hope that I cannot overcome--even when I want to give up I can't! I'm like George Costanza on Seinfeld: "Hope is killing me!"
I bought a 100+ year old house four days before getting my cancer diagnosis. The bathrooms and kitchen are desperate for a complete remodel and I decided to move forward with these projects despite doing chemo. I just don't want cancer to be the only big thing in my life right now. So I'm working with a designer (who, I found out, is also a BC survivor) and we're going to start on the upstairs bathroom ASAP! I'm so excited!
And as I keep telling everyone, I don't want to do chemo, but I also don't want to die of breast cancer in my 50's. I'm still aiming for dying of old age in my sleep!
-
I'm trying as positive as I can however it is hard on the bad days. All I can tell myself is one day at a time, I can't worry about too much now. I have been eating not as healthy as I used to, I just had half of grilled ham and cheese sandwich and feeling so guilty. Try not to have too much greasy food so I won't have D!
I'm praying for everyone doing well this weekend so we all can have some good days
-
Hi ladies! It sounds like everyone is still making it... one day at a time! I'm on day 3 of tc#2, and feeling exhausted. Definitely more tired than the first round. I've managed to gain 4 pounds due to the constant low level snacking to curb nausea in addition to eating large quantities of lemon Oreos and peppermint patties because they're the only things that tasted GOOD for 2.5 weeks.
Nausea meds - I take Zofran twice daily - once in the morning and one 8 hours later. Then I take 1 compazine at night, because it causes me to be sleepy. I have valium for anxiety/sleep problems as needed.
I buzzed my head last Friday. It was coming out by the handfuls and it was stressing me out like crazy. We made it a family event - all 3 kiddos helped. The 9 and 7 yo helped buzz while the 16 month old tried to put it back on. The positive on this is that I get to share this bald experience with my 7 yo daughter. As I've mentioned before, she has alopecia (it happened quickly almost 2 years ago) and she's a Rockstar. I got a wig and she suddenly started wanted to wear hers, but I'm slowly shoring up my courage and left the house today with just a hat. I talked to her about team how to be brave like she is and we're planning a mother/daughter bald photoshoot. Here's pics - shaving, with my wig, and my Rockstar.
-
Kritti, you all are gourgeous and she is truly a Rockstar just look at her!
-
Looking good Kritti! Love the photos, and the pic of your baby putting your hair back on cracked me up... Love your daughter's 1st day of school pose! Definitely a Rockstar!
Rebekah, DH and I love Mexican food, and put pico de gallo on everything! I have been using Biotene only to head off mouth sores, and it has worked as long as I keep using it. The moment I stopped, I developed the onset of thrush within a week. It took 3 days of Biotene use to clear up. The instructions say to use it up to 5 times a day, so I did whenever I stayed home. But in general, I would use it at least 3 times a day. I have heard of some folks using topical products like Kanka for mouth sores.
Willow, one positive result for me is that I'm spending more time with family. DH and I have been staying with my parents off and on during this experience. I stayed with them for a month after mastectomy since hubby works long hours, and I didn't want to bother with people coming over all the time to check on me. They have empty rooms at their house, so we just camped out in one of them. It was nice to have a good home-cooked meal. We stayed with them again when chemo started, thinking I would have terrible SEs. Just spending the time with them is nice. My siblings would also come over whenever we stayed at our parents place and just hang out. Prior to this, it would be months before we would see each other and we all live within 10 miles of each other!
I'll be seeing my plastic surgeon (PS) in about an hour to figure out what this "infection" is. When she attempted to drain it yesterday, she said it didn't look infectious, so I don't exactly know what that means. I got a message from my MO this morning, and he said we will pause the chemo I was scheduled for next week to let my breast heal. Hopefully we don't have to wait too long. I just want to get the treatments over with.
-
Love the pictures Kritti! Weekend is here hope everyone have appetite and no funny taste. I will try to eat as much as I can so I can pump up my white and red blood count.
-
rdeesides - I hope you are feeling better and your fever is under control now. I am slowly recovering from a seven-day D and fever ( with 100.4 and up for 5 days). I ended up with an emergency room visit for the fever but fortunately no infection was identified. My onco said I could choose either to be hospitalized or go back home. I decided to go home to avoid unnecessary exposure to germs and virus. I am glad the fever is reducing over time as the symptoms of diarrhea is under control eventually. I lost 5 lbs (I'm skinny to start with ...) But I'm working hard to eat more to gain the lost pounds back before my next chemo on 9/6.
And I totally agree that it might be better to avoid greasy food and watermelon(!) before the treatment since these things seems irritate my digestive system as well
-
WalkingIntheClouds - Oh no! That sounds just awful! Thank god you were able to go home. I would have done the same! My temp only got up to 100 so I didnt go in at all and it was back down by end of day. I hope you can find some comforting foods to eat that dont upset your stomach. Fingers crossed!
-
Walking - take care yourself, I would go home also, stay in hospital is more risk then home. I'm running out of ideas what to eat.
Categories
- All Categories
- 679 Advocacy and Fund-Raising
- 289 Advocacy
- 68 I've Donated to Breastcancer.org in honor of....
- Test
- 322 Walks, Runs and Fundraising Events for Breastcancer.org
- 5.6K Community Connections
- 282 Middle Age 40-60(ish) Years Old With Breast Cancer
- 53 Australians and New Zealanders Affected by Breast Cancer
- 208 Black Women or Men With Breast Cancer
- 684 Canadians Affected by Breast Cancer
- 1.5K Caring for Someone with Breast cancer
- 455 Caring for Someone with Stage IV or Mets
- 260 High Risk of Recurrence or Second Breast Cancer
- 22 International, Non-English Speakers With Breast Cancer
- 16 Latinas/Hispanics With Breast Cancer
- 189 LGBTQA+ With Breast Cancer
- 152 May Their Memory Live On
- 85 Member Matchup & Virtual Support Meetups
- 375 Members by Location
- 291 Older Than 60 Years Old With Breast Cancer
- 177 Singles With Breast Cancer
- 869 Young With Breast Cancer
- 50.4K Connecting With Others Who Have a Similar Diagnosis
- 204 Breast Cancer with Another Diagnosis or Comorbidity
- 4K DCIS (Ductal Carcinoma In Situ)
- 79 DCIS plus HER2-positive Microinvasion
- 529 Genetic Testing
- 2.2K HER2+ (Positive) Breast Cancer
- 1.5K IBC (Inflammatory Breast Cancer)
- 3.4K IDC (Invasive Ductal Carcinoma)
- 1.5K ILC (Invasive Lobular Carcinoma)
- 999 Just Diagnosed With a Recurrence or Metastasis
- 652 LCIS (Lobular Carcinoma In Situ)
- 193 Less Common Types of Breast Cancer
- 252 Male Breast Cancer
- 86 Mixed Type Breast Cancer
- 3.1K Not Diagnosed With a Recurrence or Metastases but Concerned
- 189 Palliative Therapy/Hospice Care
- 488 Second or Third Breast Cancer
- 1.2K Stage I Breast Cancer
- 313 Stage II Breast Cancer
- 3.8K Stage III Breast Cancer
- 2.5K Triple-Negative Breast Cancer
- 13.1K Day-to-Day Matters
- 132 All things COVID-19 or coronavirus
- 87 BCO Free-Cycle: Give or Trade Items Related to Breast Cancer
- 5.9K Clinical Trials, Research News, Podcasts, and Study Results
- 86 Coping with Holidays, Special Days and Anniversaries
- 828 Employment, Insurance, and Other Financial Issues
- 101 Family and Family Planning Matters
- Family Issues for Those Who Have Breast Cancer
- 26 Furry friends
- 1.8K Humor and Games
- 1.6K Mental Health: Because Cancer Doesn't Just Affect Your Breasts
- 706 Recipe Swap for Healthy Living
- 704 Recommend Your Resources
- 171 Sex & Relationship Matters
- 9 The Political Corner
- 874 Working on Your Fitness
- 4.5K Moving On & Finding Inspiration After Breast Cancer
- 394 Bonded by Breast Cancer
- 3.1K Life After Breast Cancer
- 806 Prayers and Spiritual Support
- 285 Who or What Inspires You?
- 28.7K Not Diagnosed But Concerned
- 1K Benign Breast Conditions
- 2.3K High Risk for Breast Cancer
- 18K Not Diagnosed But Worried
- 7.4K Waiting for Test Results
- 603 Site News and Announcements
- 560 Comments, Suggestions, Feature Requests
- 39 Mod Announcements, Breastcancer.org News, Blog Entries, Podcasts
- 4 Survey, Interview and Participant Requests: Need your Help!
- 61.9K Tests, Treatments & Side Effects
- 586 Alternative Medicine
- 255 Bone Health and Bone Loss
- 11.4K Breast Reconstruction
- 7.9K Chemotherapy - Before, During, and After
- 2.7K Complementary and Holistic Medicine and Treatment
- 775 Diagnosed and Waiting for Test Results
- 7.8K Hormonal Therapy - Before, During, and After
- 50 Immunotherapy - Before, During, and After
- 7.4K Just Diagnosed
- 1.4K Living Without Reconstruction After a Mastectomy
- 5.2K Lymphedema
- 3.6K Managing Side Effects of Breast Cancer and Its Treatment
- 591 Pain
- 3.9K Radiation Therapy - Before, During, and After
- 8.4K Surgery - Before, During, and After
- 109 Welcome to Breastcancer.org
- 98 Acknowledging and honoring our Community
- 11 Info & Resources for New Patients & Members From the Team