28 years old, scared and in a fog....

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TurboKitten88
TurboKitten88 Member Posts: 60
edited August 2017 in Just Diagnosed

Its only been a week since getting "the phone call" and I still feel like I'm talking about someone else.

I of course found this site through the famous google and have been pouring over it ever since. I don't know if scared is a good word for how I'm feeling. I know a lot of women a diagnosed with bc everyday. but I'm feeling oh so alone as I do not know a single person who has/had bc. I feel weird. abnormal. like a alien. I'm hoping to reach out on here and maybe get in contact with others and maybe no feel so alone. 

I have a few questions I thought maybe you guys would maybe know the answer to? 

my first would be when do they put a "stage" to your bc? of course this is the first thing anyone asks me when I'm trying to explain everything. At this point no one has told me. 

Is it normal to have MRI say "lymph nodes clear" but when checked during biopsy they are in fact not?

my other questions would be is it totally normal for the doc to set up to meet with the surgeon before a oncologist? 


**quick back story: lump found during self exam. Was already set for gyn apt. She said it was concerning, set me up at breast health center for ultrasound. Had ultrasound, doc said it was suspicious. advised needed biopsy. did biopsy same day. received call two days later (8/11/17) it was bc- IDC. receptor test sent out. 8/16/2017 met with geneticist decided to do testing due to age. MRI same day. Doc does not see any thing other than the one location and said lymph nodes look good but cannot tell 100% on MRI.  Receptor test back, triple negative bc. Have meeting with surgeon 8/24/17. so now playing the waiting game......**


**Edit to add was told bc is Grade 3

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  • anotherNYCGirl
    anotherNYCGirl Member Posts: 1,033
    edited August 2017

    Hi T,

    I am so sorry that you find yourself here, but this is a wonderful place for support and information.

    Many triple neg have chemo first (i did not though.) I am sure that your appointments will be close together, and the drs will advise what is best in your case.

    Get second opinions if you are not 100% confident in your drs, and ask around for recommendations.

    It is all very overwhelming, but once you have a treatment plan you will feel better.

    My daughter's good friend was diagnosed at age 32. She had a double mastectomy and is undergoing reconstruction. She is single and was fortunate to have the help of her friends and siblings during her treatments. She just completed chemo in July and is doing great! Other than a few days here and there, she worked, hiked, went out with friends through out her chemo.

    Wishing you all the best and hoping for good updates from you!

    ps There is a great board here for trip neg ;)


  • MTwoman
    MTwoman Member Posts: 2,704
    edited August 2017

    TurboKitten, Welcome to BCO! although I am sorry that you've had to join us. I think it is very "normal" (in this very abnormal situation) to feel so unlike yourself and perhaps, overwhelmed. There are so many women here to connect with who've experienced similar feelings. Please know that you are NOT alone!

    I'll try to address your questions, but am also sure that others will come along soon to add their experience and thoughts.

    "my first would be when do they put a "stage" to your bc? of course this is the first thing anyone asks me when I'm trying to explain everything. At this point no one has told me. "

    after any mri/ct scans (that look for distant sites where bc may have spread) as well as the final tissue has been removed and measured, they will be able to give you your stage. That has to do with the size of breast cancer and how far it has/hasn't travelled beyond the breast (lymph nodes, other parts of the body etc) There is a link here that describes the staging process: http://www.breastcancer.org/symptoms/diagnosis/staging

    "Is it normal to have MRI say "lymph nodes clear" but when checked during biopsy they are in fact not?"

    While it is a very good sign that the mri indicates clear nodes, It is possible that cells could still be found in your lymph nodes. You should discuss the plan with your surgeon for verifying this. A sentinel node procedure marks (using radioactive dye that they inject and trace to the first node or nodes in the axillary lymph system) the sentinel nodes and then just they can be removed during surgery. They can be quickly tested during the surgery, and if all clear, the others are left in place. Here is a link describing that: http://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/sentinel-node-biopsy/basics/definition/PRC-20013550

    "my other questions would be is it totally normal for the doc to set up to meet with the surgeon before a oncologist? "

    yes. surgical referrals commonly come first. Although you should also get an appointment with a medical oncologist (MO) as soon as possible. Currently, it is very common to treat Triple Negative (TNBC) with neo-adjuvant chemo (that is chemo before surgery), so that they can see how effective the treatment is. From the research that I've done, TNBC is more common in younger women.

    The MO may also refer you to a genetic counselor to discuss possible genetic testing due to your young age.

    Please let us know how we can best help you and consider visiting the TNBC forum. Sending you warm thoughts and gentle ((Hugs))

  • Michelle_in_cornland
    Michelle_in_cornland Member Posts: 1,689
    edited August 2017

    Practical non medical advice: Hey, kiddo, use this time to prepare and freeze meals. Stock up on some healthy Smart Choice, etc. frozen dinners (lunch). Have your friends come and help you prep for your journey. Hopefully, you have family and live near them? The time between now and surgery or now and chemo, give your home a deep cleaning or hire someone to give it a deep cleaning. Buy or make any Christmas presents on your list, it will be less stress later. If you live in a seasonal climate, time to switch the summer wardrobe to fall/winter. What type of job do you have? Can you negotiate working from home? If you have hobbies, are they something that you can do during treatment? If not, can you learn to crochet or knit? I am a beader and it saved my sanity through surgery, radiation, and an additional surgery. Finally, get walking if you are not already. It will help your energy levels and give your endorphins/neurotransmitters a boost. If you have a breast center in your area where you will be having chemo, etc., they may have a counselor to work with you on all the things you want to do to prepare for the next 6 months or so. Godspeed on your journey.

  • Luckynumber47
    Luckynumber47 Member Posts: 397
    edited August 2017

    You might be able to make a good guess at your stage if you know the size of your tumor. If it's small (under 2cm) and no positive lymph nodes then you're stage 1 - at least for now. That can always change after surgery. Also, did they tell you the grade - how aggressive the tumor is? That is determined from the biopsy and would be in the same report that said you were triple negative. If you're grade 1 then it's a slow growing tumor. Grade 2 is intermediate and grade 3 is aggressive. If it's grade 3 your dr's will want to do more aggressive treatments so be mentally prepared for that

    I am so sorry you are going through this. My Breast Surgeon told me this was just a minor inconvience, a bump in the road. She said I would be fine. She was right. And you'll be fine too! Just get through these crazy few months.

  • TurboKitten88
    TurboKitten88 Member Posts: 60
    edited August 2017

    BosumBlues:That's what everyone keeps telling me :( I definatly never in my wildest dreams ever thought I would have this happen (which I know that no one does!)

    Thank you so much for the info! I am just still trying to soak up as much info I can! all so new of course! I'm ready to meet with everyone and get a plan going for sure! The only person is my family is a great great aunt! so not ever very close to me :(


  • TurboKitten88
    TurboKitten88 Member Posts: 60
    edited August 2017

    Another nycgirl: thank you for the kind words! I'm glad everyone here is so kind and helpful! all the topics I'm reading so far I'm trying to learn as much as I can! Thank you so much! I will def jump over there and chit chat with everyone also. I'm so glad for the internet. it makes the world feel not so large. 

    MTwomen: thank you!! so so much!! I'm going to look into everything you posted I want to learn as much as I can! Everything you said makes so much sense! and I did send off blood for the genetic testing just to see if I can add another piece to the puzzle :) thank you so much! 

    Michelle in cornland: what amazing advise I have not even begun to think of these things but so many things you listed need to addressed for sure! I do! my mother, dad and sister are all only a few miles from me! so I am lucky! I work with my dad as his office assistant at a construction company and much can be done at home as long as I have a computer and scanner and since my dad is the boss I know working around all this will be a breeze! but all your suggestions are so amazing! thank you!

    Luckynumber47: I actually forgot to ask the "size" last time I was with the doctor. I don't know how I forgot! I was just so overloaded with info that I had wanted to ask before that when I got there I lost probably half of it! They did tell me the grade! Grade 3-busy is what she said? meaning cells where busy? but she did not go into a lot of detail on that. When you say more aggressive treatment can you explain what that normally is? thank you so much!


  • Pyrrh
    Pyrrh Member Posts: 119
    edited August 2017

    Turbokitten - ask everyone for copies of your testing results. Keep a folder with all of those reports in them, so when you hop from one doctor to the next you always have the actual answers to their questions. You'd think they could talk to one another, but it doesn't really happen. You are entitled to your pathology reports and any other official documents (genetic testing, etc) so that you can always refer back to what was tested, how, and what the results were.

    I even have a copy of my initial mammogram that confirmed the lump - that was a little harder to get but I was out of state at the time and wanted to ensure no issues getting the information to my home doctors.

    I am sorry that you are going through this. You will find this site and the forums to be excellent sources of information and support as you progress through treatment.

  • beach2beach
    beach2beach Member Posts: 996
    edited August 2017

    Turbokitten,


    So sorry you are here. You are young, unfortunately there are many young women diagnosed. You are not alone. It's very overwhelming and scary. I can't much better advice then everyone else has, but take each day as it comes, feel however you feel, sad, crying, ok, battle mode, whatever it is go with it.

    Gather all your info as it comes in. Feel comfortable with your Dr's and what they tell you otherwise find new ones.

    Hugs to you...we will be following you.

  • Hopfull2
    Hopfull2 Member Posts: 418
    edited August 2017

    hi turbo kitten, sorry about your diagnosis. When I got diagnosed I met with my breast surgeon, after surgery I met with the radiation oncologist then last with medical oncologist. But it was in this order for me because I did not need chemo before surgery I did chemo after. You might want to check out the young survivor coalition. It's a forum for women under 40. Good luck. You will get through this. I know right now your feeling you can't but you will

  • Tmoultrup
    Tmoultrup Member Posts: 4
    edited August 2017

    Hi Turbo Kitten. I totally know how you feel unlike yourself or as you said "alien". I have waves of emotions like that too and it's ok. You aren't alone, even though it can really feel like it at times. People try to empathize but it's really tough until you've walked in those shoes. You will be ok. My ultrasound didn't show any cancer in lymph nodes but sentinel node biopsy confirmed there were small amounts - microscopic in one and 6 mm in the other. You should feel much better when you have more information.

  • TurboKitten88
    TurboKitten88 Member Posts: 60
    edited August 2017

    thank you ladies 😘 Y'all are the best. I'm going to dig in deeper around here on the forum! I also found a local group for anyone with bc from just being diagnosed all the way to in remission right now! So I'm excited to go to meeting! Y'all are all so strong and wonderful. Ty for taking the time out of y'alls day to talk to me

  • Nancy2581
    Nancy2581 Member Posts: 1,234
    edited August 2017

    It breaks my heart to see women so young to be diagnosed with this. You are just a few years older than my daughter. I am so sorry this has happened to you. I totally get the abnormal, alien feeling and being so alone. It does get better once you have a plan in place and you know what's going to take place. And yes waiting stinks - it's just awful. It sounds like you most likely caught this early - good for you. I have a friend who also caught her triple negative bc early. She had surgery, four rounds of chemo and radiation. She is 10 years out. You can beat this. Hugs to you

    Nancy

  • tammyH64
    tammyH64 Member Posts: 7
    edited August 2017

    I want to tell you number one is you are way too young to even be exploring a BC survivor site, but so you are. Try to remember God is only going to give you as much as He knows you can handle. {Beware!} I am crying for you. Crying is actually healthy and good. I'm praying for you and your good health. (:

  • voilalia
    voilalia Member Posts: 41
    edited August 2017

    Hi TurboKitten,

    I'm totally feeling ya! And dang, you are too young for this! I'm too young for this too (51 but think I'm still 30! ;-p)

    I got my diagnosis 7/21/17 after I finally got a lump looked at and they did a biopsy - left breast & lymph node both came back positive for b.c.. I was referred to a Surgical oncologist (with excellent credentials and reputation) first - probably because the Tumor Board recommended a lumpectomy. Took awhile to get the referral, then awhile to actually see him (just last Saturday). The medical oncologist is next and I can't get in to see him until the middle of next month. I've seen so many dx and treatment dates posted on these boards that suggest a much faster turnaround time...

    My SO looked at my records while he was out of the office and scheduled me ahead of time for blood work, contrasting MRI, CT scan, and a bone scan so that he had the results on Saturday. I'm so glad that our first meeting could include learning that there's no cancer spread beyond breast and lymph node(s)!! That was a huge relief!

    I also learned on Saturday that the mammogram hadn't picked up the tumor, but the ultrasound did. May have something to do with having dense breasts. The MRI, however, shows it to be a 6.4 x 7.7 cm "string of pearls"! A large enough mass that means a mastectomy is in order (and I'm one of the 15% of his patients who get mastectomies, the other 85% get lumpectomies) Ugh. I'm just now coming to grips with that new reality.

    That said, my SO referred to me a MO to see if I'm a candidate for treatment before surgery to reduce the size enough to warrant a lumpectomy instead. However, it's slow-growing (a good thing), so it doesn't seem likely, but he wants me to know the options. That appointment is scheduled for 9/22/17 (short on doctors for the next few weeks, then I travel for a week, hopefully they'll call me off the wait list soon).

    Like you, I was expecting to find out a specific stage. He didn't mention it, so I asked. He didn't seem terribly concerned about labeling it and was non-committal with my b.c. being either a IIB or a III.

    That said, I just opened my mail and got the CT scan report. I know there's a danger in reading into things and the SO already covered generalities with me, but I am a little freaked about seeing new information - "there is a left supraclavicular node... suspicious of metastatic disease." We didn't discuss this and it falls outside of the range of nodes (axillary) he was telling me would get removed. I'm a little puzzled, so I guess I know at least one more question I'll have for him when I get back in his office!

    Anyway, I know you got several excellent responses to your post. I just wanted to let you know that you're not alone in the newness to this journey. I understand the "scared and in a fog feelings!" I feel I'm just coming out of the first fog now that I have those other test results. I feel a new fog facing the reality that I'm going to have my whole left breast taken off rather than a lumpectomy. OMG!

    I wanted to be commiserating here and it seems I did an "all about me" share. This sucks. Thank you for being there - I'm grateful I'm not alone in this newness. We'll hang in there together!

  • KNardo88
    KNardo88 Member Posts: 54
    edited August 2017

    Turbokitten, you are not alone. I was diagnosed 4/25/16 at age 27 and also felt like an alien. You are in the hardest time right now--- the very beginning. Once you know more, and have a plan, you will start to regroup and push forward. I didn't believe ANYONE when I was first told that in the days and weeks following my own diagnosis. It's hard being so young and going through this. I am happy to talk any time with you if you need to let things out or need input from someone your age who has been through this. I had a double mastectomy with reconstruction and I am currently on an aromatase inhibitor paired with ovarian suppression injections now that I've completed chemo. Its a tough ride, but you can do it!

  • 44MB
    44MB Member Posts: 1
    edited August 2017

    I'm sorry about your dx, this is my first post here. It's been a month for me and it still feels like I am in a bad dream.

  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited August 2017

    Welcome, 44MB. We're sorry you find yourself here, but hope this community can be a source of support for you. We know how difficult the first days and weeks after a diagnosis can be, but we hope it helps to know that you are not alone. We have a forum dedicated to members who've been diagnosed at a young age, where you might find some more support and information specific to dealing with cancer at a young age: https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/27.

    The Mods

  • FridayYet
    FridayYet Member Posts: 45
    edited August 2017

    I totally get the weird/abnormal/alien feeling, since I'm there too. You are definitely not alone!

  • mkn86
    mkn86 Member Posts: 250
    edited August 2017

    Hi

    I just recently got diagnosed with TNBC, Stage 3A.

    I'm scared too. But i just wanted you to know I'm here and that you're not alone.

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