Starting chemo August 2017 - would love some moral support!

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  • DodgersGirl
    DodgersGirl Member Posts: 2,382
    edited August 2017

    rdeesides- I didn't have any mouth sores thru 4 AC doses. I did develop mouth sores (2) during Taxol after I got lazy rinsing with water, salt, baking soda after eating.

    I definitely took Claritin during AC and lucked out as I escaped bone pain from Neulasta

    Keeping hydrated is important during chemo. Be sure to really push liquids the day of chemo. Also, take any prescribed anti-nausea meds as dosed. It is much easier to stay ahead of nausea than it is to keep a pill down while vomiting. With AC, for me, I was good until Saturday (chemo on Wednesday) when pre-meds had worn off. I got queasy pretty often over the weekends and found that eating (even chicken noodle soup) every 2-3 hours helped. I drank ginger tea, diet ginger ale, and peppermint tea to calm my tummy. Also wore Sea Bands on both wrists a ciypke of times. By Monday, I felt better and continued to feel better til next AC treatment.

    Best of luck to you

  • PauletteK
    PauletteK Member Posts: 2,205
    edited August 2017

    rdeeside- I use baking soda/ salt and water every meals and i haven't have mouth sore problems yet. You will tired for few days and we will pray for you.

    Walking - I'm sorry that you join us we are here for everyone on this rough journey. I know most of us will be here for the next few months and our life are changing everyday.

  • PauletteK
    PauletteK Member Posts: 2,205
    edited August 2017

    DodgersGirl- how are you doing with your taxol??? All the reading I read I'm getting scared.

  • sweetp6217
    sweetp6217 Member Posts: 365
    edited August 2017

    Kritti,

    No appointments? I would call their 800 number to see if they will clipper or shave for free. They failed to offer it to me, but they do have such a thing. Apparently, in some places, they will shave, then fit you for a wig. Most wigs need to be ordered and may take 2 or more weeks. I didn't find anything and ended up overnighting a wig. The TLC ACS wig collection where I am looks like someone combed them all out and I couldn't get a good fit while I still had my hair. Thankfully, my hubby got rid of what was left of my hair and it was liberating and scary at the same time.

    Bottom line, if you don't ask for a service, they may not offer it. They're pretty keen on mentioning their website though. 800.227.2345 help line number.

    P.S. I already got a couple of pity looks because my hair looks different due to a wig. Very hard to find something perfect. At least they contained themselves and didn't ask. I don't mind sharing with friends but the occasional acquaitance, not really. I still don't have the nerve to go out in public with my beanie. I'm a chicken.

  • Angelica25
    Angelica25 Member Posts: 26
    edited August 2017

    Paulette,

    I just finished my 6th Taxol today. It is so much easier than AC. My only complaint is a little tingling in my hands and feet which comes and goes. I've been doing acupuncture for that. On day three I get a little bone pain but nothing crazy, it's bearable. No mouth sores as of yet. I did have an allergic reaction the last three times including today. It lasted less than 5 minutes. MO keeps upping Benadryl and more steroids each time. It comes on 7 minutes after they start the Taxol and then they give me more Benadryl wait 20 minutes and restart and then it goes smoothly. The reaction is that my heart starts to palmitate and I feel a rush of heat come on. It's not scary because the nurse has been sitting with me to watch for it.

    Hope this helps. Also, love your hat

    Angie

  • sweetp6217
    sweetp6217 Member Posts: 365
    edited August 2017

    Thanks for the good wishes with my recent visit to the after hours office. The bactrim doesn't seem to be helping my ankle, but my acne is clearing up. BONUS!

    P.S. I'm not surprised about my ankle not responding.yet. Part of it may have something to do with edema. I try to put my feet up, but only when they are above my heart, does it seem to improve (can't just sit up and keep them "elevated").

  • PauletteK
    PauletteK Member Posts: 2,205
    edited August 2017

    Angie,

    Thank you for the information, I have only few SE from AC they are bearable my MO always said the taxol it is milder than the AC. I was hoping he didn't lie / tunedown about SE.

    Many thanks and good luck to your remaining treatments.


    PK

  • rdeesides
    rdeesides Member Posts: 459
    edited August 2017

    Thanks Kritti! I am going to put some salt and baking soda in my bathroom so I can mix it up several times per day.

    I should just be taking one Claritin a day, correct?

    R

  • sweetp6217
    sweetp6217 Member Posts: 365
    edited August 2017

    1 a day is what they told me R (claritin)

  • PauletteK
    PauletteK Member Posts: 2,205
    edited August 2017

    rdeesides - Some of usstarted totake Claritin couple days before

  • rdeesides
    rdeesides Member Posts: 459
    edited August 2017

    Thanks Paulette and SweetP, I just took one. Maybe starting a bit early but better early than late I hope

  • sweetp6217
    sweetp6217 Member Posts: 365
    edited August 2017

    I love it when they say, "it can't hurt".

  • DodgersGirl
    DodgersGirl Member Posts: 2,382
    edited August 2017

    Paulettek- Taxol 12 is tomorrow for me and I can't wait to be finished. AC was harsher but there was also a break between infusions. My Taxol is weekly so the " feel normal" days are fewer with Taxol.

    My SE are completely different with Taxol First few treatments I had bone/joint pain that were mitigated by Aleve. Bone pain diminished the last few Taxols. Taxol is very drying to the body. It really dried out my sinuses and leaves them feeling swollen, hard to breath through my nose, especially at night and so my mouth dries out. I use Ocean saline spray to help moisturize sinuses and Ayr Gel to keep inside my nose moist. And with Taxol 11, my nails are quite sore to the point it is hard to do some things No discoloration or breaking of nails just nail bed pain. And I did develop 2 mouth sores with Taxol. But found Kank-A from Blistex helped along with consistently remembering to rinse after eating with salt, water, baking soda. No nausea with Taxol. Some weeks I had to take a chocolate x-lax and some infusions I had to take an Imodium and some required neither. The Benadryl in my pre-meds gives me restless leg feelings during chemo and the steroid keeps me wide awake the night of the infusion. I have adapted to these and don't think much about the SE other than the nail pain but won't miss the SE after chemo

    Each of us is different so hopefully your Taxol will be a breeze.

  • Clearpath
    Clearpath Member Posts: 38
    edited August 2017

    Hey DodgersGirl and Angelica25 - thanks for sharing your experiences with Taxol, I am on the same chemo regimen as you ladies. I will have my second AC treatment on Thursday. I felt good this week - not looking forward to another cycle, but it is inspiring to hear from others who are further along to know that we will get there too. Meanwhile my goal is to try to do something fun each day so as not to lose the 20 weeks of chemo time - since diagnosis I feel that every day of life is much more precious.

  • DodgersGirl
    DodgersGirl Member Posts: 2,382
    edited August 2017

    Clearpath- love the sentiment about doing something fun because I feel like I lost a spring and summer and it saddens me when I stop and think about it (which isn't often as I find myself living in the moment m, day by day, right now)


  • teaspoons
    teaspoons Member Posts: 23
    edited August 2017

    I have my second AC infusion tomorrow. I'm on a two week schedule. I switched my infusion day from Tuesday to Wednesday due to work commitments. I started upping my water intake significantly yesterday and will keep it up for the rest of the week. Feel like my SEs weren't too bad and completely manageable, so hoping for the same this time around.

    I started shedding hair like crazy on Sunday, so today is the day - I'm going to let my daughter chop it (have some fun with it first) and then shave it all off!! Wish me luck

  • PauletteK
    PauletteK Member Posts: 2,205
    edited August 2017

    DodgersGirl- thank you for the info I have the same schedule as you 4 AC every other week then 12 Taxol weekly. I was worry the right taxol schedule my body won't have enough time to bound back. Good luck to your last Taxol then you are done 🙌🙌🙌

    Clearpath- since I started chemo my life and body turned upside down. I'm trying to enjoy on my good days don't think about the bad days. But it is hard to do because now I don't sleep well on good days unless I take Ativan.

    Teaspoon- good luck with your second infusion many of us found the same SE. I will have my third on this Friday.

    Have a good days ladies .... I actually get used to My scarves wrapping now

  • VL22
    VL22 Member Posts: 851
    edited August 2017

    Hi Rebekah - I've been lying low, but feel really well today! My MO explained that for TN AC is more of the heavy hitter, so I think it makes sense to get that firstI agree with all the advice you've been given about mouth rinse and Claritin - no sores or bone pain for me.

    My advice with nausea would be to expect it and don't let it get ahead of you. I did real well out the gate taking the meds, but then I was waiting to feel sick. My MO explained doing this can make it hard to "catch up". Next time around in going to just take them as directed through day 5.

    Also Paulette's advice to get a prescription for Ativan was a life saver - got me the sleep I needed.

    I know you're nervous, but you will survive - we all will. It makes me feel stronger knowing others are doing it too.

  • rdeesides
    rdeesides Member Posts: 459
    edited August 2017

    VL22 - What are you getting for Nausea? I got a prescription for Ativan and also something else. Both things cause drowsiness. I am not very happy about that. For some reason I don't remember now, she wasn't on the Zofran train. She did say if I needed something else to let her know. I guess I can take the Ativan as soon as I get home from the infusion? And I have already started Claritin and drinking tons of SmartWater. I hope I'm on top of this.

    R

  • KByTheLake
    KByTheLake Member Posts: 52
    edited August 2017

    I start chemo (TC) on August 22 and will get 4 to 6 infusions, depending on how well I tolerate them. I got my first BC diagnosis (DCIS) in 2006 and had a lumpectomy and radiation. After 11 years I thought I was in the clear but four days after closing on a house in another state, I was diagnosed with IDC. I had a lumpectomy on July 11, a revision to clean up the margins on July 26, and moved on August 2. Both cancers were in my right breast so next spring or summer I'll get the mastectomy I would have had if I hadn't been in the middle of moving. My tumor was Stage I, grade 3, oncotype 28. A couple cells found their way to one lymph node, too.

    I haven't had time to make any new friends so the hardest part of this for me is having to go it alone. I'm an only child without living parents and single with no kids. (I do have a Jack Rusell Terrier and a cat.)

    2017 has been some year: my mom died in February, I sold my childhood home in May, bought my first house and got my cancer diagnosis in June, had surgery twice in July, moved and starting chemo in August. Yikes!

    My cousin (he has a very different way of looking at the world) says he thinks chemo will only be the fourth hardest thing I'll ever do. That, he says, means it will only be medium hard and I can handle medium hard. That actually made me feel better! (The harder things I've done are #1 multiple bilateral pulmonary emboli which led to my heart stopping a couple of times; #2 a tracheal resection; and #3 pleural empyema. I certainly hope chemo won't be as hard as any of these!)

    This isn't at all how I thought my new life in my dream town would start

  • VL22
    VL22 Member Posts: 851
    edited August 2017

    R - I was prescribed Zofran and Compazine initially. I don't think the Zofran worked for me. When I was still feeling nauseous he added the ativan for before bed and a steroid twice a day - this seemed to work for me. His suggestion for next round is to start that first night with the steroid and use through day 5, compazine and ativan as needed. I do think the anti nausea drugs made me foggy and headachey

    I started the Claritin the day of my infusion and took four days and had no bone pain.

  • PauletteK
    PauletteK Member Posts: 2,205
    edited August 2017

    rdee - I was prescribed Zofran and Compazinr and Zofran is the must take one. Compazinr is as needed. Ativan is for night time. Zofran will make you constipate that is something you should know,

    KBy - sorry to hear all these unhappy things happened in your life, look at it this way, at last you are living in your dream town. I hope things will get better for you, we are all here in the same boat, walking on this rough path together,

  • rdeesides
    rdeesides Member Posts: 459
    edited August 2017

    So weird, I only have Ativan and Prochlorperazine. They both cause drowsiness so I won't take before infusion, but will wait till right when I get home. I will take an Ativan the night before.

    I wonder why I didn't get Compazine or Zofran.

    R


    EDIT: I now see that Compazine is the same as Prochlorperazine....

  • PauletteK
    PauletteK Member Posts: 2,205
    edited August 2017

    rdeeside - Zofran won't cause drowsiness but Compazine will.

  • rdeesides
    rdeesides Member Posts: 459
    edited August 2017

    So frustrating, I don't want to have to be drowsy in order to not be nauseous. Will see how it goes and ask for something else if needed.

  • Willow22
    Willow22 Member Posts: 220
    edited August 2017

    Clearpath - you are so right about planning something to look forward to and enjoy for each day, and not just "getting thru" these chemo months!

    Kbythelake, welcome! Wow, you've had so much going on in your life recently - adding cancer diagnosis and treatment on top of it all has to feel overwhelming ! I love your brother's viewpoint - you sound like a very strong person if you've handled all of that before! I'm so grateful to all the amazing women on this thread who've shared their experiences, advice, humor and positive attitudes with me.... we're here for you as you make your way through all of this!

    Rdeesides, compazine may make you drowsy, but it is not a guaranteed SE. Generally I'm a lightweight when it comea to being made drowsy (coriceden D cold/allergy literally snows me like a preop sedative), but I didn't notice anything with the compazine.... I used it pretty regularly at 8 hour intervals before my long acting zofran IV (think it is called Aloxi) wore off, as well as in between oral zofran doses for a few days. You'll have to see how you respond to it.

    What will your dr give you to prevent nausea during your infusion? Perhaps s/he is doing a long acting IV med as one of your chemo premeds.

  • lovepugs77
    lovepugs77 Member Posts: 296
    edited August 2017

    rdeesides, Prochlorperazine is the actual drug name of compazine. Compazine is just a brand name. It makes me ridiculously sleepy, like can't keep my eyes open sleepy. I took one at bedtime a couple of times on AC when my stomach was iffy. They gave it to me at my first taxol infusion and I asked them to switch me to something else the next time, so they gave me zofran instead. My MO did say that it is excellent at controlling nausea, though

  • rdeesides
    rdeesides Member Posts: 459
    edited August 2017

    Well I'm off work and my kid is at a friend's house for a few days so sleepy is not the worst thing, but will not be a good long term solution. I will give it a try on my infusion day (Thursday). Will ask about non drowsy options as well

  • Walkingintheclouds
    Walkingintheclouds Member Posts: 52
    edited August 2017

    Thank you!

    I had my first infusion of CT. Not too bad in terms of 5-6 hours staying the recliner since most time I was drowsy under the drug. After the infusion, my head wa foggy and my body was tires thati had to go direct to throw myself into bed!

  • PauletteK
    PauletteK Member Posts: 2,205
    edited August 2017

    Walking - it is good that you can sleep. Rest up !

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