Grade 3 and scared

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Kimhf
Kimhf Member Posts: 15
edited December 2017 in Stage III Breast Cancer

Hi: I am new at this. I had a lumpectomy on June 16. I caught my cancer very early as it wasn't even a tumor, just a collection of cells about 1/2 inch long, clear margins and clear lymph nodes. I didn't know how to read my pathology report so yesterday, at my post op appointment, my surgeon told me it was very agressive and nasty. It was Grade 3. She was pretty nasty herself when she gave me this news. Scared the living daylights out of me. Should I assume that all will be OK? I've been on the internet today (big mistake). I'm scared to death.

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  • ChiSandy
    ChiSandy Member Posts: 12,133
    edited June 2017

    Deep breath, Kim. First, this is a Stage III thread—and from your description your cancer, being so early, is likely no more advanced than a Stage IA. And the part about it being a “collection of cells" suggests it might even be DCIS, which is Stage 0. You should know that DCIS (which is not an invasive cancer) is often Grade 3, more so than is invasive ductal carcinoma. Stage and grade are two very different things! So you should probably move your post—and future posts—to the Stage I or even DCIS threads.

    Say a temporary adios to your surgeon (temporary because you'll have to see her or her NP a couple of times a year for the next two years) and turn your attention towards getting a medical oncologist (MO), who will be overseeing any further therapy beyond radiation should it be recommended (and that doc would be a radiation oncologist, or RO). Your MO will basically be your “team captain" for the next few years. Some centers even have “nurse navigators," who can steer you through the system and the process(es) of treatment.

    At any rate, have either the nurse navigator or the MO fully explain the path report to you. It'd help if you could post it here (black out names & contact info, of course), so those of us for whom this ain't our first rodeo can help you know what you're dealing with. Once we know, we can tell you how to post that info in your Profile, so that for all future posts we, your BCO sisters, can guide you.

    I suggest you surf on over to the Lumpectomy Lounge thread, introduce yourself and tell your story, and take comfort in the help & guidance we will give you.

  • Kimhf
    Kimhf Member Posts: 15
    edited June 2017

    Thank you. I'm getting grade and stage mixed up. I knew it was a Stage 1. But then the surgeon told me yesterday it was Grade 3 (aggressiveness). Her bedside manner sucked and she scared the living daylights out of me to the point where I'm thinking about getting my affairs lined up today.

  • Kicks
    Kicks Member Posts: 4,131
    edited June 2017

    This Forum is for Stage III - not Stage I, Grade 3. Big differences!

  • kar123
    kar123 Member Posts: 273
    edited July 2017

    Sorry you find yourself here Kimhf. I ran into a doctor like that also. She did my node biopsy and the way she told me made me think I should get my affairs in order too. It took me a while to get the terms right. They are confusing. Glad you don't have to be in this forum, but I don't think there is any rule that says you can't stop in and ask questions if you have them. Best Wishes!


  • Artista928
    Artista928 Member Posts: 2,753
    edited July 2017

    Don't feel bad posting here. Good news is you found out you are not stage III. With grade 3 it doesn't mean the end of the world at all. See a good MO and discuss treatment options. Good news is you found it early. Get your complete path report and fill in the details in your sig like what I have in mine (and others do). Make sure you go to settings and set it to public or we can't see it. Once you do that people will be able to help you better. GL.

  • scar88
    scar88 Member Posts: 15
    edited July 2017

    If it will help, kimhf, I am an 'almost twenty year stage three survivor!' I was diagnosed in October of '97 and had a left mastectomy a month later; beginning chemo on Dec. 9 of that year and last radiation on Nov. 12 of '98. Not certain how to set up these facts on this site so will do later but.......had 12 rounds of chemo (5FU, cytoxan and adriamycin) and 35 radiation treatments. I had 22 lymph nodes removed and four were involved so I, and WE, understand your fear. I have found that as time goes by, the fear subsides some, not completely at all but it does get a bit better. I was on tamoxifen for three years and then arimidex for almost seven years. My oncologist 'let me go' even after I begged him to 'keep me!' In '08, I was told I had the BRCA 2 gene so a month later, the right breast and ovaries were removed. I had a friend take me to the hospital and help me as I am single and never married. Reconstruction involved a tram and then an expander on the right side.

    This is my first post and you can tell I'm new at this.

    I've had such a hard time dealing with fatigue. Family and certain friends have backed away. Weight is a huge issue in my family so a horrible, no other word seems appropriate, time with them concerning the fifty pounds I put on that year. We've even had screaming fights about it. But..........another topic.

    Prayers to each of you and look forward to hearing from you.

  • Carol246
    Carol246 Member Posts: 9
    edited July 2017

    Hello everyone.

    I have been recently diagnosed stage 3 cancer. I am suppose to undergo surgery and then treatment.

    I have mixed emotions. I need to be in a talk with someone who has undergone this please.

  • lkc
    lkc Member Posts: 1,203
    edited July 2017

    hi Carol sorry that you have joined the club no one wants to be in. This is the hardest time, I think when you are just starting down this road. It's scarey as this is unchartered territory and you don't know what to expect. Also, things move quickly and that adds to the anxiety. Once you start treatment however, it does actually help as you will feel more in control.

    There are a few things to keep in mind. Stage III is simply to category to determine treatment. You will get aggressive treatment, which I think can be a good thing mtoknock out the baddies.

    For me, I was where you are over 12 years ago, staged at IIIC and scared sick. I found these boards, informative and very comforting. Came here often for reassurance.

    There are many many of us stage IIIers out there living life way beyond this blip on the radar. You'll get through it too.

    I wish you a very gentle ride through this time.

  • Carol246
    Carol246 Member Posts: 9
    edited July 2017

    Thank you Ikc. I have done alot of searching the internet. As a survivor have you changed your diet. What do you do?

    Every diet seems to be a green one. And there are many differences of opinions.

    I think I am more confused than any other word.

  • Shellsatthebeach
    Shellsatthebeach Member Posts: 316
    edited July 2017

    The first thing my surgeon said to me when I was dwelling on the stage is that stage is not really that important in terms of treatment. It is how I respond to treatment that counts. That really did made me feel better.

  • Rrobin0200
    Rrobin0200 Member Posts: 433
    edited August 2017

    I agree with everything ChiSandy said

  • WorryWartSuzie
    WorryWartSuzie Member Posts: 29
    edited August 2017

    Do NOT, at any point, be afraid to advocate for your care! Whenever I had discomfort with a provider throughout my treatment - general surgeon - plastic surgeon, oncologist and radiation oncologist - I made other providers aware of it. My care is fractured between 2 cities, so either be honest with your surgeon and tell him/her how they made you feel, or get a referral to another one. Once a doctor told me I could have a blood clot in my leg, and he was sort of rude and I said, "You know you are terrifying me, right? ' to let him know his bedside manner sucked! We have to live with the providers for a long time - Be comfortable.


  • WorryWartSuzie
    WorryWartSuzie Member Posts: 29
    edited August 2017

    Shellsatthebeach - Me, too! That's what my oncologist told me before I even had treatment and shortly after my mammo! Funny on how just a few words can make ALL of the difference in your total outlook. Sometimes that's a bad thing for me because I take EVERY word to heart - I don't call myself WorryWartSuzie for no reason!

  • WorryWartSuzie
    WorryWartSuzie Member Posts: 29
    edited August 2017

    Shellsatthebeach - Me, too! That's what my oncologist told me before I even had treatment and shortly after my mammo! Funny on how just a few words can make ALL of the difference in your total outlook. Sometimes that's a bad thing for me because I take EVERY word to heart - I don't call myself WorryWartSuzie for no reason!

  • WorryWartSuzie
    WorryWartSuzie Member Posts: 29
    edited August 2017

    Well, your post certainly helped me! Thank you! I am stage IIIC and in the final stages of treatment completion. The one thing that has really bugged me about this disease - we lose everything - hair, eyebrows and lashes, breasts and a little bit of self-esteem, and people get hung up on what's on the OUTSIDE of us! Weight gain? Tell 'em - "Yeah, that means the cancer isn't winning! " Someone actually commented to me and said, "I can't believe how hearty your appetite is after having chemo? ' Annoyed to say the least, I responded, "Yes, because it was pounded in my head I would LOSE my appetite, thus giving the slug of cancer a shot at me, so I made a choice to eat no matter how I felt! " Now that I am nearing survivorship, I'm eating more because Life's too damn short! God bless you and remember, what's on the inside is what matters - not the superficial stuff. If people haven't been through this yet, how would they know?

  • WorryWartSuzie
    WorryWartSuzie Member Posts: 29
    edited August 2017

    Carol246 - The best sleep I ever got after my diagnosis was during my surgery. Once "it" is out, you will feel better and then can deal with each step as it comes. It is SO worth all of this. You will be a different person in a short time. I can't believe how relieved I was once it was out - I had bilateral mastectomies and so worth it! Best wishes and it will not always feel this way, I promise.

  • Wonderwoman386
    Wonderwoman386 Member Posts: 48
    edited September 2017

    I was told in july I was 1B, I had surgery 9/6/17 and now I'm 3B. I feel like that escalated way too quickly.

    Now I'm to start chemo next week. Did my team miss something or does cancer really grow that fast??

  • Artista928
    Artista928 Member Posts: 2,753
    edited September 2017

    Wonderwoman- Pre-surgery it's a best guess on details. The imagings gone can miss some of it or all of it esp if you have dense breasts. I was a II pre-surgery with a 4 cm mass but then after sx an additional 3 cm was found that biopsy, u/s and MRI missed. So I'm stage IIIa. I think the only ones that may go that fast are triple negative people, but even that seems too fast so I'm guessing it wasn't seen. Nothing is concrete until you have surgery and your path is sent out. Great question to ask your surgeon though.

    It would help if you fill out your profile and then go to settings to make it all public so we can see your profile and answer your questions better.

  • Faithonfire
    Faithonfire Member Posts: 85
    edited October 2017

    hi ladies I am new to this also, I was diagnosed a stage 3c invasive ductal carcinoma this June and am hoping to get my 11 th chemotherapy treatment on Halloween if I can. I am having 16 treatments then a double mastectomy and reconstruction around January so that is not a lot of time to vet a plastic surgeon and add to my team.

    I just found out I am estrogen positive braca 2 her negative. I had my suspicions but now it's fact so I can plan ahead for future risks to additional organs.

    Wasn't prepared to talk about giving up more organs at a genetics meeting so I gave the indignant woman what for and walked out! My ovaries and uturous are healthy and cancer free according to my pet scan so it's important to stay on top of your charts I have found. Blaming my mother for not getting tested after her cancer was one step too far for all of us.

    I have posted a few things on combined diagnosis threads because I have had ptsd for over a decade and was medication and alcohol free for 10 months before diagnosis and am currently working with a ptsd specialist in therapy. I found this critical to me to process my emotions and respond appropriately in even the worst situations.

    I have learned that there are a lot of doctors that don't take the time to explain their decisions... and you have every right to force the issue by asking questions and expecting a response you understand. Don't be shy! I hope that helps I keep notes on my treatment papers of who explained which subject so I can check another source if information is questionable.

    You all inspire me to stay strong and keep fighting this! Doctors are people too, and people make mistakes so there is no harm in asking how you can help keep track of things too

  • Faithonfire
    Faithonfire Member Posts: 85
    edited November 2017

    Just wanted to stop in and let you all know that I'm doing much better on round 12 of 16 chemo now that we got the meds adjusted properly.

    I had visible confirmation from all treating me that my condition was in weekly decline despite clearing 3 chest X-rays for treatments and basically told to suck it up it wasn't that bad!

    I decided to give them all a dose of their own medicine on patient pain shaming from the proper perspective!

    If me asking to be relieved of the pain the treatments have clearly placed me in makes me a drug seeking junkie then what do you call the people you pay to treat you that caused the pain then refuse to part with the medication that treats it properly? Disgraceful!

    My entire team now is keenly aware that I don't take to character assasination lightly and have as much fight as nessicary to employ their same tactics with much worse implications on their character than mine on the issue!

    I have an addiction specialist on my therapy team that finds this all hilarious! The fact that I did not leave a trail of bodies behind that day is true testimony to his level of professional skill!

    I got to be the karmic kick in the pants that keeps the illusion of superiority in check for everyone working FOR me to cure my cancer. I don't care what you think of me personally as long as you do your job properly, I'm not here to be judged by anyone aside from the Lord that made me!

    Stay strong and rock on

  • Koki3
    Koki3 Member Posts: 3
    edited December 2017

    hai,

    I'm also newly diagnosed stage 3A,grade2,IDC and mightily worried as i have just started on my chemo.

    Was yours her2neu positive or negative.?

    I'm HER2NEU-positive

  • Jeremiah29-11
    Jeremiah29-11 Member Posts: 17
    edited December 2017

    Hi, everyone. My first post. I'm 42. About 2 months ago, life was peachy. Since then, I was diagnosed, had a bilateral and decided to stay flat, stage 3a, grade 2, 4 positive nodes. Lost my hair from chemo and shaved my head yesterday which was tough, 2nd round is next week. No hair and no breasts has been a huge change from life just 2 months ago. Dunno yet about radiation and of course the hormone therapy is coming. Anywho, this website and the threads have been SO helpful to me - my thanks to all of you for sharing your experiences and opinions. My question to you stage 3 warriors... Is radiation a decision based on stage, and since I have no breasts now, any chance I might squeak out of radiation, or does the stage check that box automatically? I worry about damage to my heart and lungs since I don't have breast tissue. Thanks again, all.

  • Shellsatthebeach
    Shellsatthebeach Member Posts: 316
    edited December 2017

    welcome Gloria. I believe since you have node involvement, radiation is pretty standard. I too had a mastectomy and did not reconstruct. They also gave me boosters on the surgical site of my scar. If, and when you do receive radiation, ask the hospital what equipment they use. Many hospitals have newer machines that are tailored to only hit the area needed to radiate. I had cancer on my left side. That concerned me because of the location of my heart. The equipment being used would not hit the heart area. I had no SE from radiation.

  • Newnorm
    Newnorm Member Posts: 100
    edited December 2017

    Hi Gloria

    I too had radiation because my Onc was concerned about local recurrence and radiation provides clear assistance in preventing it. Mine was on my left, post mastectomy. The equipment used involved breathing in and holding my breath which puts greater distance between the radiation beams and the heart. I too was concerned about the potential damage to my heart, however I decided that the advantages outweighed the negative possibilities. Hope that helps. Xxx

  • sbelizabeth
    sbelizabeth Member Posts: 2,889
    edited December 2017

    Hello, Gloria, welcome to the club no one wants to join. You're among an amazing and strong group of women and men.

    With your diagnosis, radiation is pretty much a given. Of course, you can refuse ANY treatment, but radiation is used to "mop up" any stray cells that might be hanging around the chest and underarm, and it's very effective at preventing local recurrence. For us Stage 3 people, they throw the kitchen sink at our cancer--chemo, surgery, radiation, hormone therapy if ER+.

    Current radiation technology is amazing. It's designed very precisely to radiate the tissues involved and avoid other organs as much as possible. The presence, or lack, of breast tissue doesn't affect the radiation design. The radiation oncologist engineers the therapy to YOUR anatomy and pathology.

    Gentle hugs from smoky California!

  • Castigame
    Castigame Member Posts: 752
    edited December 2017

    Gloria,

    I had the bilateral bleeping crap beg of this year. Had no choice about all three treatments. DMX w no recon, 8 Dose Dense chemos and 30 rads. Yes My crap was majority grade 2 w grade 3 mixed in.

    I was 47 and average health. Was concerned about SE re rads. I passed stress and ECG in flying colors. I walked consistently throughout the yr long treatments. The other day I walked 9 plus miles one day without any issue. I honestly say I threw the entire kitchen sink at the crap.

  • Jeremiah29-11
    Jeremiah29-11 Member Posts: 17
    edited December 2017

    Thank you, ladies!!!

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