Question about icing during chemo

SusanGA
SusanGA Member Posts: 147
edited August 2017 in Lymphedema

I am scheduled to begin Cytoxan and taxotere in two weeks. My question is would icing my hands including my surgical side put me at risk for lymphedema. I would do this to,hopefully avoid complications from possible nail loss. I fear it would be a risk for infection but not sure if extreme cold is good either. Any thoughts

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  • Castigame
    Castigame Member Posts: 752
    edited August 2017

    I am done w 8DD chemo. Last one June 26th. I never got to ice my hands and feet bc my infusion ctr is 2 plus hr drive and I could not stand the cold. In some ways, glad I did not bc I now have chemo flared arthritis in my hands. I had minor arthritis before but chemo made it act out in other words.

    Some ladies use frozen pea bags in lieu of icing gloves and take glucosamine. I have been taking glucosamine. The concern here is neuropathy.

    I used tea tree oil to my nails whenever I remembered. Other than some discoloration no lifting no loss of nails happened.

    About neuropathy, I honestly think no way preventing it. I have some now which I hope it reduces more after rads are done. Yes I felt rads flared it more. I can do minor cooking which involves minor cutting w no issue.

    Yes it is long road. Just got to march as best as we could.

    Mimi


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  • Connie1230
    Connie1230 Member Posts: 192
    edited August 2017

    My MO highly recommended icing and never mentioned it in relation to lymphedema. I never even thought about the possibility that it could be an issue. I did get the mittens and booties and hated every single second of it. We were also 1 1/2 hrs from where I received chemo but managed with coolers. I still got some neuropathy in my feet and still have it 5 mos. after completing chemo. I wonder if it was worth it but I guess the question is, would it have been worse if I didn't ice? Of course, there's no way of knowing that. Mine isn't severe; I really notice it when barefoot but it disappears the minute I put on any kind of shoes including flip flops.

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  • DodgersGirl
    DodgersGirl Member Posts: 2,382
    edited August 2017

    I am icing hands and feet during 12 Taxol treatments to try to prevent neuropathy. I have completed 11 Taxol's sessions and have no neuropathy or nail issues with my feet and hope that continues after next week's Taxol 12

    My hands are another story. Even with icing them each week my nails are really sore. No discoloration or lost nails but tender and sore, making it hard to use my hands for most things. I have not seen any neuropathy in my hands though so I think icing is making a difference

    I am taking B6, B12, l-glutamine, and biotin. And using coconut oil and OPI on nails.

    Can't answer your question about lymphedema as I haven't had surgery yet.

    Also Sloan Kettering has a PDF onlineabout icing and the benefits of doing so during taxene treatments.

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  • hugz4u
    hugz4u Member Posts: 2,781
    edited August 2017

    if you have not had rads or any surgery yet you should be fine as your lymph nodes are not disrupted. Otherwise extreme cold or heat is not good for us with lymphedema or with those of us with nodes taken out. Remember ANY kind of surgery can produce lymphedema. Even knee operations etc. Think of lymph system like plumbing. If you break a pipe the plumbing becomes ineffective. Docs might tell you otherwise because they only spend a few minutes at sch learning about lymph system. Mine laughed at me saying I would never get it. Eventually I left (fired) him. Good for you asking and getting educated. Lymphedema is a crapshoot some get it right out of surgery some don't for years or maybe never.

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  • Kicks
    Kicks Member Posts: 4,131
    edited August 2017

    I did not do 'icing' and had no problems at all.with nails or neuropathy. Actually I do not think that I possibly could have 'iced' if I wanted to as I had issues with keeping body temperature close to 'normal'. Problems during 4 DD A/C neoadjuvant but not bad, during 12 weekly Taxol adjuvant - really BAD. I know for certain that during g infusions I dropped to at least 94 at least once - that was in a heated glasses in cubicle and lots of warmed blankets piled on me. So no - 'icing' would not have been an option for me.

    I used OPI Nail Envy on my nails throughout TX and had better nails at the end than when I started TX (or ever in my life!). I did get a small blackened area on one big toe after 2nd A/C but I know exactly where it came from - a bruise I got while driving in a Powder Puff Mud Bog.

    My LE started 9 weeks post UMX - 6 weeks into Taxol.

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  • Jackster51
    Jackster51 Member Posts: 357
    edited August 2017

    Are you using cold caps also? My hair never returned after Taxotere... that was 5 years ago :-(

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  • SusanGA
    SusanGA Member Posts: 147
    edited August 2017

    i wasn't planning on cold capping but I am reading about the risk of permanent baldness. I'm so sorry that happened to you. It is so sad that fixing one thing breaks another. Looks like I've got some things to learn about this chemo stuff

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