Missing diet coke

Libby1223
Libby1223 Member Posts: 19

Before being diagnosed all I drank was diet coke.  I knew it wasn't healthy, but I told myself it was okay.  Since my diagnosis I only allow myself water and occasional juice, but I really want a diet soda, even once a day.  Does anyone know what the opinion is on drinking diet soda?  I'm not saying I'll go back to all day everyday, but after 3 months, I still can't get rid of the desire.

Thanks for any advice.

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  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 57,235
    edited September 2014

    I don't know how having an occasional soda would hurt you. Years ago, when I was doing Richard Simmons, he said to limit soft drinks (including diet ones) and coffee to not more than two a day. I have always thought that was good advice for everyone.

  • cowgal
    cowgal Member Posts: 833
    edited September 2014

    Lately, I have been buying carbonated water and adding different Sweet Leaf (stevia) flavors to it.  They have all sorts of flavors.  I have cherry, rootbeer and vanilla creme.  They come in a bottle with a dropper and you just add the drops to whatever you want to add them too.  Also good for flavoring tea, smoothies, etc.

  • wrenn
    wrenn Member Posts: 2,707
    edited September 2014

    Google aspartame and you won't be tempted any more.

  • Cowgirl13
    Cowgirl13 Member Posts: 1,936
    edited September 2014

    I think Diet Coke is poison.  As wrenn said, google aspartame.

  • kamm
    kamm Member Posts: 140
    edited September 2014

    Everything in moderation. Diet coke didn't cause your breast cancer. :)

  • wrenn
    wrenn Member Posts: 2,707
    edited September 2014

    "everything" in moderation is not really good advise since we stopped eating off the land. Once things like aspartame were developed you really shouldn't put certain things in your body in any amount. Regular coke or even alcohol will do less harm than aspartame (in any amount). Some 'sayings' need to be updated when research is followed.  :)

  • Bounce
    Bounce Member Posts: 574
    edited September 2014

    I found an acceptable substitute for my soda craving - or rather my diet soda craving - I think that soda is addictive and its very hard to have the occasional soda - it turns into regular behavior for me - so I buy plain Soda Water (its just plain water with bubbles) and I add a finger of Pomegranate juice.  Its healthy!  I guess any fruit juice could be used - I just like the color and the antioxidants.

    I don't have to worry or feel guilty about killing myself with regular or diet soda and I still enjoy the bubbles.

  • kamm
    kamm Member Posts: 140
    edited September 2014

    I'm not defending aspertame as a health food but in no way has it been proven to be more dangerous than sugar. Sugar has a well documented history of contributing to disease then aspertame given the amount of diabetes and obesity in this world. Aspertame is one of those things that has been demonized because it "seems" like it should be terrible for you, and like all foods and additives, some people may be sensitive to it andothers not. However, the research on it is far from solid. If it brings you a little joy to have a diet coke have it.   If you like your glass of wine have it. A little sugar, go for it. Life is to short under the best of circumstances to worry about or go through eating grass. :) 

  • wrenn
    wrenn Member Posts: 2,707
    edited September 2014

    hi kamm, i am curious to know where you found the research showing that aspartame is no more harmful than sugar.  i haven't been able to find it. thanks.

  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 6,398
    edited September 2014

    Sugar definitely is a contributing factor with diabetes and obesity, but aspartame is way more dangerous.  I stopped drinking Diet a long time ago,,, if I really really want a soda,, I'll drink regular Coke now.  And I know that is also bad for me,, just not as bad as Diet.

    Here's a link to side effects of aspartame,, from the FDA.http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/dailys/03/jan03/012203/02p-0317_emc-000199.txt

  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 6,398
    edited September 2014


    And Libby, I do understand the desire, but have you tried some bottled flavored waters?  Or some "natural" sodas?  Some of them have stevia in them,, I'm not 100% in favor of stevia either, but again it's WAY better than aspartame.

    I've become an iced tea addict. I have a lot of different flavors of tea. And I found that the longer I stayed away from soda,, diet or regular,, the less I like the taste. 

  • MelissaDallas
    MelissaDallas Member Posts: 7,268
    edited September 2014

    Europe is more rigorous than the US and after an extensive review they released study results last year deeming Aspartame safe.

    http://www.efsa.europa.eu/en/corporate/pub/factshe...

  • kamm
    kamm Member Posts: 140
    edited September 2014

    Wrenn- Aspartame has been around for a much shorter amount of time then sugar. The research is still out on what the long term effects are if any. I'm a nurse and have taken care of enough diabetics to sink a ship. I have seen directly how sugar contributes. I have yet to see the same with artificial sweetners. So far there has been no disease that I am aware of linked to Aspertame or any other artificial sweetner. Maybe in the end they will find some link to something. Who knows? But as of this moment that does not appear to be the case.  As you see above, studies are a dime a dozen. Pro/con. But until we begin to see consitstent results it really doesn't mean much as far as it's "safety". It also depends on what your definition of safety is. Sugar on the other hand has a well documented history of contributing to disease. Like I said before. Just because someone may have a sensitvity to something doesn't make it inherently dangerous. For example, people have reactions and sensitivites to healthy foods as well such as peanuts. I don't think that makes them unhealthy. I think this has become almost an urban myth. I've heard people blame everything and it's mother on Aspertame. They used to do it with Saccharin. Maybe in the end drinking it in large quantities will be harmful. Who knows. But I don't believe in demonizing something if there is not consistent proof that it does real harm. I hear people say I feel guilty for wanting to have one. Guilty? I think the jury is out and as much as people want it to be in now it can't be. It sounds like I'm advocating for it and I'm really not. 

  • wrenn
    wrenn Member Posts: 2,707
    edited September 2014

    kamm, my objection was for you to tell her to go ahead and have it with the added bit that there was nothing wrong with it.  i eat a lot of crap but do not tell others to do the same. i think we should not advise people to do things with the 'potential' to do harm evenif we indulge ourselves.  i think it is fine to say "enjoy" because that itself is good for us....be joyful. :) but i would avoid adding that it won't hurt her when it might.

    my neighbour is dying of lung cancer and feels guilty for smoking.  i tell her to just enjoy it but i certainly would not say "it won't hurt".

  • kamm
    kamm Member Posts: 140
    edited September 2014

    I didn't intend for my original post to be an "advisement". I didn't tell her to do anything. I'm not in the business of telling someone what to eat and drink. I expressed an opinion as you have regarding Aspartame. I'm sorry if you took it that way but that was not the case. I believe smoking  clearly falls in to the category of having been proven to be harmful so I agree with you. I'm sorry about your neighbor though.

  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 6,398
    edited September 2014


    Your body processes artificial sweetners in the same way that it processes sugar. You can have a surge of insulin from aspartame as you can from sugar,cuz you are in essence tricking your body into believing it is getting something sweet now, so it must send out some insulin to counteract it.  Yes, sugar is a contributor to obesity and diabetes, but it is not the only culprit. I think that high fructose corn syrup is a major player in the upsurge of both those diseases, as we are seeing more and more since companies started replacing sugar with the much cheaper HFCS. Our bodies process HFCS differently than sugar.

    Lots of reading on that subject,  here is one I recently finished:   https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/17333302-grain-brain

    Bottom line:  in MY opinion,, YES, diet coke is bad for you. If you want to have one once in a while, I won't stop you. You're an adult and you can make up your own mind.  I just think it is better to indulge in a natural sweetner than an artificial one.

    And sacchrin has been shown to cause bladder cancer.

  • wrenn
    wrenn Member Posts: 2,707
    edited September 2014

    seems to me our bodies would have no idea how to process aspartame. Sugar rots your teeth and makes you fat but our body's don't recognize it as 'foreign' or non food.

    But if you are releasing all kinds of happy chemicals when you drink a diet coke then it has a benefit. :). Rituals in general are a good thing.

  • kamm
    kamm Member Posts: 140
    edited September 2014

    Saccharin was shown to have an assoc. with bladder cancer in rats not humans and the details of that research were in some ways very specific to rats. 

  • rozem
    rozem Member Posts: 1,375
    edited September 2014

    I don't normally drink any soda, juice or anything with sugar in it.  I drink water and thats it. But once in a while if Im indulging in pizza (homemade) or burger (also homemade) I will have a diet coke - maybe 2-3 a month (some months nothing).  I don't know if this is bad but I figure its so infrequent that it should be ok.  However, Im not addicted to it, that 2-3 a month is fine, I don't crave it as much as I crave it with certain foods.  I wouldn't feel good about having it on a regular basis, aspartame is not natural

  • Softball236
    Softball236 Member Posts: 1
    edited January 2016

    I know my response is not scientific and backed with studies with evidence. My sister in her fifties was diagnosed with metaplastic carcinoma breast cancer. Small lump went large by the time she had a mastectomy. Could not get her heart rate under control which delayed chemo whichthen resulted in a collapsed lung with more cancer in the lining of lung. She died within 6 months of surgery. Side note: no evidence of cancer after surgery. I can't help but think after being addicted to diet soda for 35 years didn't play a role in her rare disease.

  • Valstim52
    Valstim52 Member Posts: 1,324
    edited April 2016

    My response is not scientific either. But, I never drank diet soda, or soda period. Sugar free for the most part, veganfor over 20 years. , in shape, worked out. Mammograms every year . Still have Stage 3 cancer in my 50's. Oh and took supplements all my life. , really clean eating. Non smoker. I did it because I enjoyed it, and felt good while doing it.

    Do you spell it tomato or tomatoe?

    I have diet coke drinking, smoker friends, still healthy, not facing this terrible disease yet. My 86 year old mother snacks, and drinks diet pepsi every day. 86. So I'm saying some chemicals we learn are harmful, others we don't know . So I'm still planting my organic garden, eating clean, but I may just have a diet coke one day.


  • Valstim52
    Valstim52 Member Posts: 1,324
    edited April 2016

    Oh additonally, gained weight on treatment, how awful is that?

  • wendymk2016
    wendymk2016 Member Posts: 63
    edited October 2016

    i will say we can't tell for sure if there is a relationship between BC and diet coke. But obviously you should stop drinking these kind of beverage and switch to some other healthy drinks.

    After I am diagnosed as DCIS, the first thing I did is to throw away those diet drinks and also packed all the processed food. From now on, I will try to only eat fresh food.


  • Linwentz
    Linwentz Member Posts: 133
    edited August 2017
    1. I stumbled on this thread as I was looking for healthy eating suggestions & boy did it speak to me!I have been a Diet Coke guzzler for years...I knew it wasn't good for me, but I didn't want all those calories from regular soda. Stupid! And I didn't like water. Stupid!
    2. Nothing like a little thing like bc to rock my world & force me to re-think what I have been shoving in my mouth all these years! I have always known better, but it was always easier to just shrug it off and indulge in what I wanted.
    3. I am not blaming Diet Coke for my bc. But I do know that there is just too much evidence to dispute the evidence of healthy eating. Unfortunately, even doing all the right things does not negate the possibility of bad things happening to your body. Valstim52 is the perfect example.(so sorry
    4. So, good-by Diet Coke. I am going to miss you. I don't know if your absence will make any difference in my overall health, but I will feel a whole lot better being in control of my diet & exercise & well-being. There are many things I have no control over but what I eat and drink isn't one of them!
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2017

    Everything in moderation. I don't think an occasional diet drink will cause anyone harm, but if you're drinking them in place of water, probably not such a good practice. I don't like the caffeine and the fizz in diet drinks like cola, but I do make my own limeade/lemonade drink with a bit of truvia/stevia, water, and organic lime or lemon juice, over ice.

    Claire in AZ

  • edwards750
    edwards750 Member Posts: 3,761
    edited August 2017

    I agree with Claire everything in moderation.

    For the record I used to drink Diet Cokes but I didn't switch because of any of this. I found some sparking ice drinks with a varietyof flavors, some green tea in it and zero calories that taste better. They are really refreshing. Welch's also has their line of drinks that are also good especially the grape drinks, my personal favs. I do drink water and coffee too.

    We all know people who did everything right and still got the beast. Go figure. We and they just drew an unlucky card.

    I'm not surrendering steak or hamburgers or ice cream to possibly prevent the chance of a recurrence but that's me. We do eat a lot of chicken and green veggies but that's because we like those foods.

    I am not advocating at all to turning a deaf ear to research that can aid in the prevention and treatment of cancer. We desperately need to find a cure. It's tragic how many people die from it and especially sad when the victims are so young.

    For the record my sister who also has breast cancer as did my mother seems to point to a genetic reason why my sister and I got it as well.

    Diane



  • Freya244117
    Freya244117 Member Posts: 603
    edited August 2017

    I'm always curious when I read old posts, 3 or more years for example, and people have totally changed their diets and lifestyle, if they kept it up long term. Making big changes all at once must be hard to keep up, old habits are hard to break.

    I don't drink soft drink (soda) at all, diet or otherwise, they just taste way too sweet to me. We have great water, so I drink lots of that, and lots of coffee.



  • NotVeryBrave
    NotVeryBrave Member Posts: 1,287
    edited August 2017

    I would say have that diet soda and see how you feel! Satisfied? Distraught?

    One soda is not going to make any difference. And if you really enjoy it then you have your answer. You've already said yourself that you knew drinking it all day every day wasn't healthy. It's not like you're going back to that.

    And I think we all pretty much agree that nothing we did or didn't do caused BC.


  • ceanna
    ceanna Member Posts: 5,270
    edited August 2017

    I gave up artificial sweeteners a few years ago and, thus, had to give up my addiction to diet Coke. I found that it was not necessarily my addiction to the caffeine, but my "need" for the fizz!! I now drink plain sparkling water--no artificial or "natural" flavorings or colors, sodium or caffeine--just carbonated water (you have to be really careful and read the labels since most have something artificial or sodium in it). While, for me, the sparkling water has to be cold, straight from the frig or over ice, that satisfies my cravings. Other than being sold in plastic bottles (except for Voss Water in the larger glass bottles), I feel it's about the best way to get the fizz and not the additives!! I don't blame diet Coke or other "artificial" ingredients for my BC but why put them in our bodies.

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