Mammoprint test

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Artista928
Artista928 Member Posts: 2,753
edited July 2017 in Waiting for Test Results

This was a headline on the local CBS news, a new test to determine if chemo is needed for early stage bc. If you have a low risk of recurring then you may be able to skip chemo and maybe even tamox. How new is this test? Just curious as they made it seem like it just came out. The founders/creaters of this test are out of UCSF in San Fran. Makes me think if I recur or worse that I just may switch my onc who is good and close to Washington Hospital where all my providers are and the cancer center is a satellite of UCSF center.

Glad at least this made the news. We may know about mammoprint testing but I'm sure not everyone facing early stage bc wondering to chemo or not do.

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  • jwilco
    jwilco Member Posts: 486
    edited July 2017

    I saw the same news. I was wondering how this was different from the onco test. I'm happy that for this one it sounds like they are recommending it as a new standard. I had to read about the onco score on here and then ask for the test.

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited July 2017

    Mammaprint is not new - I had it done in 2010. One of the things people like about it is that it has a high or low recurrence score only - no intermediate score, is usable by ER- and Her2+ patients, and looks at a larger number of genes than some of the other assay tests do.

  • octogirl
    octogirl Member Posts: 2,804
    edited July 2017

    I also had a MammaPrint, in 2015. MO wanted to do it for precisely the reason SpecialK states: no intermediate score. Unfortunately, I came back high risk and had the chemo, but the study results mentioned in the news reports (and published in JAMA Oncology) were reassuring in that the study did find it to be highly predictive as to patients who could skip chemo with little risk of reoccurrence (so I was reassured that having chemo had been the right choice since my test results came back high risk). By the way, UCSF did NOT create the test, and in fact the published study states that they have no financial interest in the test, nor do any of the researchers at UCSF that did the study of the test. The test is from a Dutch company and I believe has been used in Europe longer and more widely than it has been in the US. The actual study was based on tissue samples from women in Sweden.

    For those of you in California, the study in question at UCSF was funded in part by the non-profit University of California managed California Breast Cancer Research Program (CBCRP). I mention this because you can check off on your CA state tax return to donate to the CBCRP. They do very important work. http://cabreastcancer.org/index.html


  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited July 2017

    Mammaprint testing is done by Agendia in California, a subsidiary of a Dutch company.

  • gb2115
    gb2115 Member Posts: 1,894
    edited July 2017

    It's not new, but I think it's newer to a lot of doctors as it was used for awhile in Europe but is newer to the US. My MO gave an explanation of why she prefers it over the Oncotype, something about the research being better, but I can't remember exactly what she said...so much was said during that conversation!!!


  • kira1234
    kira1234 Member Posts: 3,091
    edited July 2017

    I think part of the problem is insurance hasn't wanted to cover it. My oncologist wanted the mammaprint 7 years ago but my insurance refused it. I ended up getting the oncotype test

  • MTwoman
    MTwoman Member Posts: 2,704
    edited July 2017

    It was also in MedPage:

    http://www.medpagetoday.com/hematologyoncology/breastcancer/66532

    The reason for their article is that an ASCO panel (American Society of Clinical Oncology) has just backed it's use based on a study newly released in the Journal of Clinical Oncology (and on the ASCO website).

  • BarredOwl
    BarredOwl Member Posts: 2,433
    edited July 2017

    The MammaPrint or "70-gene" test is based on a 70-gene prognostic signature ("gene expression signature") proposed by investigators at the Netherlands Cancer Institute in a 2002 publication.

    Agendia was founded to commercialize the test. The test first became commercially available in Europe (2004) and later in the USA (2008).


    Artista928 and MTWoman are not talking about the same publications/work, although both happen to relate to the MammaPrint ("70-gene") test.


    (1) 2017 ASCO Biomarker Guideline Update in view of MINDACT:

    MTWoman, your MedPage Today feature discusses and links to a 2017 ASCO Biomarker Guideline Update just published on July 10, 2017 in which ASCO provides revised guidance regarding the clinical utility of the MammaPrint test in various patient subgroups and in light of "Clinical Risk Category" (classified per specific MINDACT Trial categorization methods).

    The ASCO review and update was prompted by the publication of the MINDACT trial results in August of 2016 by Cardoso et al.

    ASCO Guideline Update (2017): http://ascopubs.org/doi/full/10.1200/JCO.2017.74.0472

    Cardoso (2016) (MINDACT TRIAL): "70-Gene Signature as an Aid to Treatment Decisions in Early-Stage Breast Cancer"

    Main Page: http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1602253

    PDF version (Free): http://www.nejm.org/doi/pdf/10.1056/NEJMoa1602253

    Supplementary Appendix (Free): http://www.nejm.org/doi/suppl/10.1056/NEJMoa1602253/suppl_file/nejmoa1602253_appendix.pdf

    See also,

    Hunter perspective (2016) (Free): http://www.nejm.org/doi/pdf/10.1056/NEJMp1608282

    Hudis editorial (2016) (available for purchase): http://www.nejm.org/doi/pdf/10.1056/NEJMe1607947


    (2) "Ultralow Risk" sub-group:

    The commercial test output is a numerical MammaPrint Index and risk classification of "High Risk" or "Low Risk".

    Artista's news report mentions UCSF and seems to relate to a completely different study published on June 29, 2017 from researchers at UCSF in which they sought to define another risk group: "ultralow risk".

    Esserman et al. (2017)(UCSF): "Use of Molecular Tools to Identify Patients With Indolent Breast Cancers With Ultralow Risk Over 2 Decades"

    http://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamaoncology/article-abstract/2634502

    Unfortunately, the Esserman article is behind a paywall and the definition and threshold for "ultralow risk" is not clear to me from the abstract. In addition, the results are based on work using a specific clinical trial population, so it is possible that certain features of the study group (e.g., node-negative, post-menopausal) may potentially limit applicability of these results.

    See also, this related NPR Feature with comments from other clinicians:

    http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2017/06/29/534882955/tumor-test-helps-identify-which-breast-cancers-dont-require-extra-treatment


    Other groups have also been working on defining "ultralow risk" subsets, such as Delahaye:

    Delahaye (2017), "A breast cancer gene signature for indolent disease"

    https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10549-017-4262-0

    It is possible that due to differences in methodology and between the patient populations used, the definitions and thresholds for "ultralow risk" might differ from study to study.

    The above publications by Esserman et al. (2017) and Delahaye et al. (2017) regarding "ultralow" risk do not appear to be considered in the above ASCO Guideline update.

    ====> With such highly technical documents, it is easy to misunderstand the meaning and/or applicability of the findings. If any outside material influences thinking about treatment decisions, patients should be sure to discuss their thinking with their oncologist.

    BarredOwl

  • MTwoman
    MTwoman Member Posts: 2,704
    edited July 2017

    Oh wow, that is certainly some coincidence (?) that both stories related to the Mammaprint (based on 2 different studies, no less) were released so close together. Thanks for the clarification BarredOwl. I hadn't seen the CBS story, just the MedPage one and made the mistake of assuming they were reporting on the same study.

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