Clarins spa doesn't accept cancer patient

Prue_pueng
Prue_pueng Member Posts: 17
edited December 2017 in Working on Your Fitness

Hi

I just got reject for performing body massage from Clarins spa in Bangkok. The reason is the massage will boost the circulation system and lymphatic system. Even I said I have finished my treatment can I have a facial massage, they still reject me.

So, I will not able to have massage for the rest of my life?

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  • Lula73
    Lula73 Member Posts: 1,824
    edited July 2017

    I was "rejected" at a spa too. Their liabilityinsurance required anyone who has had surgery to be out 6 months from surgery date before they would accept you. I was 4 months out from BMX with immediate DIEP flap recon and cleared by my dr for massage Also, the therapists may not know how to properly work on the side where your nodes were removed (or they prefer not to take the risk) as it can cause lymphedema. In your case it may have been a combination of both of those. So I see 3 options: don't mention the surgery at all and take the risk (just ask the therapist not to touch that arm), wait it out and then resume when your 6 months or year is up, or find a massage therapist that works with post-surgical or breast cancer patients

  • MinusTwo
    MinusTwo Member Posts: 16,634
    edited July 2017

    That's pretty scary risk to take. I certainly would not have a massage or anything else just 2 weeks after your last treatment. Maybe the the six months that Lula mentions would be OK, but I would get the OK from your MO and your surgeon before proceeding.

    You should be aware of the lymphadema risk also. Maybe look for a trained & certified LE therapist. Most docs don't know much about it. Below is a site that will give you some basic info.

    http://www.stepup-speakout.org/



  • ChiSandy
    ChiSandy Member Posts: 12,133
    edited July 2017

    There are spas that cater to breast cancer patients. We have one, Heartwood, in Evanston, IL; and the Cancer Wellness Center in Northbrook does several kinds of massages (several of which are free), though they’re booked far in advance. I have no idea about the situation in Thailand (or outside N. America, for that matter). I had surgery in 9/15 and rads that November. In April 2016 we went to a resort & spa outside San Antonio, TX—and when I told the director I had stage 0 LE, she set me up with a masseur who knew exactly what and what not to touch.

    It could be that awareness of the side effects of breast cancer is way behind the curve in SE Asia, and there is little knowledge about modern treatments & symptoms. While many (if not most) non-medical massage therapists have no idea about breast cancer or LE, their employers might have been sued (or heard of lawsuits) for allegedly causing or aggravating LE and they are “gun-shy” (as we say here in the US).

    But to not let you have a freaking facial? That is paranoid and ignorant. Find another salon, book a facial and don’t mention you had breast cancer. Or book a massage and say you’re "very sensitive on that arm” and would they please indulge you by not massaging it? For goodness sake, by Clarins’ logic (at least the Clarins in Bangkok), you should never do anything that would increase circulation—including dancing, running, working out, raking leaves, sweeping, swimming, raking leaves, scrubbing floors or dishes….which is just plain ridiculous.

  • Beatmon
    Beatmon Member Posts: 1,562
    edited July 2017

    I've had many wonderful massages...none the first year. Just had a great one on the Riverboat during my France trip. I just give a few instructions and relax and enjoy.

    You certainly can have facials....that is just crazy. It is one thing that can make us feel better about ourselves after all the crap we go through.

  • premmious
    premmious Member Posts: 7
    edited December 2017

    I would make sure that there business would not get patronized, and seems to me that you could probably get a lawyer. I have gotten massages

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