Ater 5 years called for more tests after MRI

Lily55
Lily55 Member Posts: 3,534

Hoping beyond hope someone can tell me why I would be called in for more tests after an MRI last week?  They won´t tell me what they saw, only that they saw something on the MRI, or what the test is....am going in two days time after phone call today....I thought MRI was THE definitive test for lobular in particular?  I don´t want a mammogram and anyway they can´t do one on both sides anyway...........very sore point.............so what can it be? And why??

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  • pink_is_my_colour
    pink_is_my_colour Member Posts: 308
    edited July 2017

    I'm sorry to hear this. It must be disappointing after five years. My oncologist said MRIsaren't always accurate.

    Here's hoping your tests results come back normal. But also know that we're here for you if you need us.

    🤗

  • MinusTwo
    MinusTwo Member Posts: 16,634
    edited July 2017

    Lilly - so sorry they are not giving you more information. If you call the doc that ordered the tests, can you get he or she to tell you why more testing is ordered? And what tests are ordered?

    Even after an MRI (with & without contrast), my surgeon wanted a CT (with & without contrast) before surgery. I thought it was to pinpoint the exact location. My MO also believed in sporadic PET/CT scans. I know most docs won't order those because there could be false positives (not to mention the cost), but I found comfort in the fact that they would show any 'hot spots' that might need a closer look. But they would have to alert you ahead of time of the dietary restrictions before that test.

  • Lily55
    Lily55 Member Posts: 3,534
    edited July 2017

    THanks but I won´t get any more info now until the test in 36 hours time, whatever it might be.......I feel inclined to refuse a mammogram if that is what they have in mind.......and CT´s usually not given to me as i am allergic to iodine, maybe it is a false positive...........

  • farmerlucy
    farmerlucy Member Posts: 3,985
    edited July 2017

    Lilly - Crossing my fingers and toes that it is a big, fat NOTHING. I refuse to think otherwise. Hang in there and let us know, ok? Gentle hug.

  • Lily55
    Lily55 Member Posts: 3,534
    edited July 2017

    Thank you, I kind of knew something would show up this time, not sure how but wish they would give out some more info,  

  • ElaineTherese
    ElaineTherese Member Posts: 3,328
    edited July 2017

    Ugh, Lily. Is there no way to access your medical records, say via an online portal or something? Yes, MRIs and PET scans often produce false positives. Here's hoping that's what's going on!!!

  • ShetlandPony
    ShetlandPony Member Posts: 4,924
    edited July 2017

    Hi, Lily. Breast MRI is very sensitive, so it sees lots of things, but it is not very good at saying what those things are. The next step is usually ultrasound. So I bet the reason they are not telling you what it is, is they don't know. And the test you have scheduled is probably an ultrasound, now that they have a particular area to evaluate. It doesn't mean they think it is cancer, they just want to follow up properly. Try to keep your mind on other things, and be kind to yourself as you wait for your appointment.

  • wallycat
    wallycat Member Posts: 3,227
    edited July 2017

    Lily, so sorry for this unnecessary stress. As ShetlandPony said, the MRI is highly sensitive and even though my breast surgeon says it is 99.9% accurate, I don't agree. Proof? I had 2 doctors look at my MRI and convinced it was nothing because it was not spiculated and ultrasound could not pick it up. They were wrong. I had the breast surgeon convinced it would be 7mm. They were wrong. It was 1.8cm. My twin sister had an MRI after my diagnosis. Her MRI lit up in exactly the same spot mine did..right breast, upper, inner area. They biopsied hers and it was totally b-9.

    I know it will be hard to wait, wait and wait.....the hardest. I hope you have family and friends to take your mind off of this until you have actual information to move forward. Hopeful you hear b-9!

  • ShetlandPony
    ShetlandPony Member Posts: 4,924
    edited July 2017

    I would be careful about interpreting that surgeon's 99.9% comment. It might mean that if something is there, an MRI is likely to see it, but not that the something would necessarily be cancer. You'd have to ask the surgeon to explain what he means. In my experience, breast MRI shows the doctors what to investigate further (if anything), and in each situation they have to choose among other imaging techniques, possible biopsy, etc. My own surgeon didn't like MRIs because of "too many false positives" but I think it can be useful, especially with ILC.

  • momallthetime
    momallthetime Member Posts: 1,575
    edited July 2017

    Lilly, Shetland is a trooper in these things. I must tell you, my heart is palpitating real fast, knowing that they won't tell you. This is ridiculous. They might not tell you, BUT they HAVE to tell the Physician ordering the MRI to begin with. AND they do have a name for all their suspicions, sometimes it's weird names, but talking from experience they know what they have to look at even if they don't know what it is. So it would not be such a mystery to you. Try to get in touch with your doc and ask doc to find out what's up. AND you have a right to get the records, a CD of the MRI, and the records of any biopsy. MAKE SURE to have this in your hands.

    At least, at least, they have to tell you what test it is, you ask to speak to the supervisor, that sounds absurd. Maybe they just had a secretary call you to schedule, but you could ask to speak with a nurse, to the Radiologist himself. You will be paying for it, right? You are an adult? You tell them that. It's not the appropriate manner to treat a person! In My humble opinion. Oh, are they breast specialists? Or they do all kinds of scans? Because those are less sensitive to your needs and worries, first of all. I'd tell you to choose a place you trust, and that you should feel comfortable. Best of luck.

  • wallycat
    wallycat Member Posts: 3,227
    edited July 2017

    ShetlandPony, I appreciate your feedback. I'm into 11 years and another state, so no point worrying about what he meant. He did say he was convinced the size would be correct and that spiculation would be interpretive (wrong on both counts).


  • Lily55
    Lily55 Member Posts: 3,534
    edited July 2017

    All was fine.......they did an ultrasound of my remaining breast as the MRI saw something but they said it was nothing from ultra sound.  Onc says after 10 years I will no longer have follow ups as all have been fine so far and he is no longer testing my liver or lungs every year, BUT when I said that ILC is known to lurk he said "don´t use the internet"!!!!!!!!!!  

  • farmerlucy
    farmerlucy Member Posts: 3,985
    edited July 2017

    Whew! That's a relief! Yay! So glad for you!

  • wallycat
    wallycat Member Posts: 3,227
    edited July 2017

    SO happy all went well. Doctors fail to see (or at least are unwilling to accept) that our concerns never go away, internet or not. My onco (both here and in Wisconsin) never felt I should be followed up and only go by symptoms, so it seems more and more are leaning this way.


  • intheclub
    intheclub Member Posts: 46
    edited July 2017

    So happy to hear you are ok. Its such a scarey thing to get a call back. Youve been such a great contributor to this site so wanted to say hi from NZ and so pleased your news was good. I chuckled over the "dont use the internet" comment. for us girls It's a bit like saying "dont breathe"! Im sticking with my internet research as most of the time it is helpful. Take care. Xx

  • ElaineTherese
    ElaineTherese Member Posts: 3,328
    edited July 2017

    It's always nice to read good news on this board. Yay!

  • Lily55
    Lily55 Member Posts: 3,534
    edited July 2017

    THank you - I didn´t have the energy to say I only use BC.org as I know there is a lot of false information out there, but ILC really is seen and treated the same as IDC over here.....so it would be like pushing wáter uphill

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