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  • OG56
    OG56 Member Posts: 897
    edited June 2017

    Had my exchange 3 weeks ago two Mentor 800cc ultra high profile. At first I thought they appeared slightly squarish but now after three weeks are rounding out nicely and I have enough projection and I have great cleavage which makes me very happy. I had 40 D's or double D's depending previous to BMX. I am the only person who thinks that I look small comparativeIy. I think I look like I have small C and everyone else thanks I look like I have D's I don't know if it's just that my brain cannot see something different than what I was or what LOL how long did your plastic surgeons ask you to wait for your tattoos?

  • robinblessed54
    robinblessed54 Member Posts: 578
    edited June 2017

    OG56, you need to wait at least 5-6 months after your final surgery. You want to make sure they have time to settle and your incisions are healed.

    Robin


  • Leslienva
    Leslienva Member Posts: 489
    edited June 2017

    Shoregirl, it's been over a month since I had nip recon and so far I like the results. I feel like they aren't just mounds anymore. They look very real. So no regrets from me yet! And I had radiation, so I was worried it wouldn't take on the radiated side. My cousin had hers done (nip recon with tattoos by Vinnie) several years ago and she says hers look great.

    My PS also recommended against them--maybe because she doesn't do them! I had to get another PS who was known for his work.

  • Shoregirl
    Shoregirl Member Posts: 375
    edited June 2017

    Thanks Leslie. I am thinking that's why my PS advised against them as well. I'm glad you are happy with your recon!

    My implant that had flipped and flipped back is doing much better since I'm keeping a bra on and not laying on my left side at night. I guess I just wasn't giving it a stable environment to form scar tissue and hold it in place.

    I am now 10 weeks Post Exchange and the implants are finally getting more comfortable. There is a lot of Rippling when I lean over since they are pre-pec. I am hoping fat grafting will take care of that even if not I hope it at least cushions the edges more so that it is more comfortable against my skin.

  • Alex276
    Alex276 Member Posts: 35
    edited June 2017

    I had nipple and areola reconstruction 2 months ago and I am very happy with my results. My inner thighs where the areola skin grafts came from was a difficult recovery. The thigh incisions were very uncomfortable for weeks. I'm not sure I would do that part again. The nipples have flattened out some but I still have nice projections. If I wear a thin shirt you can see them but if I wear a thin bralette they are totally covered. My ps originally was apprehensive to do the nipple and areola reconstruction, I think mainly he just didn't have many women who want the surgery. I just had my 2 month follow up with pictures and he said he was going to us my pictures to start a local website women can go to to see great before and after pictures. I'm so proud of my foobs!!

  • grandma3X
    grandma3X Member Posts: 759
    edited June 2017
    Scottiemom11 - I have 300cc smooth round implants (29.5" chest). I wear a 32D when I can find that size or 34C and am very happy with the size. I wore 34B before surgery.
  • JessieJake
    JessieJake Member Posts: 233
    edited June 2017

    Hi Carla,

    Let me start by saying pre-pec is so easy. Goodness, I hardly pay attention to them anymore and do basically everything as usual now that I'm getting close to 9 months out. However, mine are only 290cc and I have the anatomical which I think works for me.

    I believe most, if not all, PS will use an ADM (I think that's what it's referred to) such as alloderm to create a sling to hold the implant so it's not just your skin. Having the anatomical I had to patiently let everything heal in place and I was fortunate to not have issues with that.

    Fat grafting does help with hiding edges but mine is so-so as I'm unusually thin through my rib cage. I can tell the edges are there but my PS assures me that if some of my grafted fat hadn't stayed the edges would be much more obvious. A fair amount of fat is needed to help with padding for these, I guess. I have also have rippling but I'm ok with it as I can hide it well in a bra. A little side boobage from the implant width (I was told she even tucked it some to help, but I don't think implants were necessarily made for my body shape!). Overall I don't feel it's too bad. I do select swim suit tops that cover this area (but don't we do all do this to some degree with various body parts we don't love?).

    Anyway, I wouldn't rule out pre-pec as an option, but I'd certainly ask a lot of questions. I recall my PS saying that often she "knows" the right choice for a patient. Meaning if sub-pec or pre-pec would be the correct choice. At the time I was only asking about myself so I can't say what she might have suggested for someone with a larger implant size (I think you said maybe 700cc?). In my case she was 50/50 with pros\cons for both options.

    Good luck making your decision and hope that helps some!

  • VegGal
    VegGal Member Posts: 507
    edited June 2017

    Thanks, JJ!

    I have my pre-op appointment 7/20 and I will certainly have questions. At this point I am really in favor of going with sub-pec implants again. I really like the coverage at the upper pole. I will, however, listen carefully before making the final decision.

    Take care!

    c

  • Carrie37
    Carrie37 Member Posts: 331
    edited June 2017

    I had a revision surgery yesterday to fix a capsular contracture I was having on my right (cancer) side with radiation. I had a BMX done in 2015 with TE placement and then exchange surgery in July 2016. Now I've had the revision to only the right implant. I was told my PS ended up putting in a slightly bigger implant and did some fat grafting from my stomach to help around the implant. I'm pretty sore especially in the stomach and at the incision site. I know it is normal but I'm just feeling sorry for myself right now. Want the pain away!

  • new__me
    new__me Member Posts: 128
    edited June 2017

    Carrie37 sending comforting thoughts and wishes. I hope each minute that passes finds you a bit more comfortable. It is ok to feel sorry for yourself. Smiles and warm hugs to you

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited June 2017

    I also have post mastectomy pain syndrome.  I am out 3 years.   It is getting worse, not better.   Don't know what the answer is.  I read columns and people that say they have removed their implants and it is no better.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited June 2017

    I did over 2 years of Pt/Ot starting with a lymphedema specialist.  Pain increasing, not getting better.  Lightening, stabbing pains in my chest.  I have tried acupuncture, deep tissue massage, shiatsu massage, chiropractic treatment, essential oils, anti-inflammatories, narcotics, stretching, hydrotherapy, trigger point injections, etc.  Anyway 3 years later, I am to the point where I can hardly get out of bed or do anything, and beg for mercy.  They finally do an MRI and discover that I have a torn rotator cuff.  Seriously?  3 years later?  Who else had this problem?

  • Leslienva
    Leslienva Member Posts: 489
    edited June 2017

    Carrie,

    It took over a month for my stomach to stop feeling weird from the lipo. It was pretty bruised for weeks. But it will get better!

  • Libber
    Libber Member Posts: 86
    edited June 2017

    I had bilateral BMX March 2016 then exchange to silicone implants Dec 2016. My right side after radiation is not comfortable and slightly higher than the left side. I am scheduled to see my PS again in September. Hoping he will agree to do some adjustments like fat grafting. I have adequate to transfer but unsure he will agree to do this. I have Type 1 diabetes so he has been very conservative about doing any type of revisions. I sailed through surgeries with no issues. How can I convince him I will be fine with any additional tweets to my breasts to restore my body? Ugh.

  • MinusTwo
    MinusTwo Member Posts: 16,634
    edited June 2017

    THere is a PMPS thread & the link is below. For the newbies, just remember this is a minority. Most of us do just fine, Chae, I'm sorry for your continuing problems.

    https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/136/topic...


  • Scottiemom11
    Scottiemom11 Member Posts: 1,298
    edited June 2017

    Carrie. . .give it time and it's quite ok to feel sorry for yourself. If you have a tablet or laptop just lay around in bed and binge watch shows. It took me a full six weeks to recover from my March revision for CC. Granted, I had both sides revised and some skin work but still. Hang in there.

    I finally got my 3D tattoos this past Friday. Was very sore with stinging pins and needles a few hours later (when local anesthetic wore off) but better now. I have to say that I'm very happy with them. I had seen photos before but it's different having them over your own scars. Makes them look like I had a boob job, except it's a foob job.

    Scottie

  • Molly50
    Molly50 Member Posts: 3,773
    edited June 2017

    Scottiesmom, I thought you had to wait at least 6 months after exchange? I am very excited for you!! I wanted to thank everyone on this thread. While my right implant is still slightly smaller and slightly off to the right I took the advice to continue wearing tight sports bras 24/7 and the right looks better and isn't moving like before. Left is improving though still misshapen and lumpy. I am much happier with the outcome.

  • Scottiemom11
    Scottiemom11 Member Posts: 1,298
    edited June 2017

    Molly, I was told 6 months by my original PS as well. Had my follow up with new PS from March CC revision and he said I could go ahead and schedule the tats. I agreed because insurance covered them as I had already met my OOP. Glad to hear that your implants are settling in.

    Scottie

  • Mominator
    Mominator Member Posts: 1,575
    edited June 2017

    Carrie: Sending you waves of gentle healing and kindness.

    I'm on a parallel course: I will have revision surgery on June 30 to fix a capsular contracture on my left side. I had a BMX done in 11/2015 with TE placement and then exchange surgery in January 2016.

    Libber: best wishes on your September appointment.

    Chae: could a second opinion help?

    Scottiemom: congrats on your 3D tattoos!!

    Molly: glad you're having some improvement.

  • noodlesmom
    noodlesmom Member Posts: 43
    edited June 2017

    EastCoastTS: It seems you and I are very similar in size and shape. I have had 2 fills (and won't have any more)--right now I'm at 240cc--and I feel HUGE! Uncomfortably huge. My PS is well aware that I want to remain on the small size. I was the same as you before, AA or A cup, but at 5' 1" and less than 100 pounds, I just wouldn't feel comfortable going larger. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't mind a full A cup or even veering into a very, very small B, but nothing more. I'd much rather be too small than too large. I am typically very active and just like to look of a more athletic build. Whippetmom suggested the 300cc smooth round for me, but since I'm 240 now and feel far too big, I'm completely unsure what to do. My BMX was May 31 so I have several months ahead of me before I really need to think about it (when is your exchange?) but looking down right now (the 2nd/last fill was today), I feel like I'm looking at a stranger. Far too large for my frame. If you've discovered any great info, please share!! This is one heck of a journey, isn't it? Thank you!

  • Herculesmulligan
    Herculesmulligan Member Posts: 175
    edited June 2017

    noodlesmom: my totally non scientific observations are that the TE seems bigger and more obtrusive because they're so hard. I had TEs filled to 450cc switched out for 475cc silicone implants and the implants seem much smaller and less obvious. I didn't want too big of a result either. I'm just a little smaller than my natural breasts were and my tops do fit better.

  • EastcoastTS
    EastcoastTS Member Posts: 864
    edited June 2017

    Noodlesmom:

    Agree with Hercules from what I've heard. I'm at 260ccs also with my TEs and am done. Feel huge but do not expect this size or projection with implants. I want B but don't care if a small B. I'm 5"2' and about 95lbs now (lost weight due to cutting wine/cheese every night and what I believe is losing weight on Tamoxifen -- it is listed an a side effect! LOL). I also am active and just that's enough for me. Plus, the fills were enough of my body telling me -- you're good! Stop already.

    But talk to your PS. Whippetmom recommended 300 and a couple that were a bit smaller, too. Have your PS show them to you and just discuss in detail.

    ;) Hugs!!!

  • noodlesmom
    noodlesmom Member Posts: 43
    edited June 2017

    Thank you, EastcoastTS. I've heard from several people that the 300 range would be the right way to go. Once I get closer to the exchange, I'll make sure to talk with my PS and closely look at all of his photo books. As for my size, it's

    I have a question for you--or anyone who can weigh in--about pain I'm having with the expander on one side. The right side is fine, stiff and tight, but healing. The left side (which I've had some trouble with inflammation and has been drained twice) is giving me almost constant pain. It's a burning, stabbing feeling just under the expander. If I try to do the simple stretches, that side is beyond painful. I reached to get something yesterday and honestly saw stars. It almost feels like there is a stitch that's too tight so when I attempt to reach or stretch, something inside is pulling. Has anyone experienced this? I'm at about 3 1/2 weeks post op. Thank you!!

  • MinusTwo
    MinusTwo Member Posts: 16,634
    edited June 2017

    Noodles - will you please go to My Profile and add your diagnosis & treatment so far. It makes it much easier to answer questions.

    That said - I was not allowed to reach or stretch at 3-1/2 weeks. Only very mild 'wall walking'. Just because you can doesn't mean you should. Check with your doc. Hope it's nothing serious.

    I had pain the entire time I had TEs. I've heard several people say they had the PS take out some of the saline & got relief. I made sure my PS never expanded more than 50ccs at a time and then only every other week.

  • grandma3X
    grandma3X Member Posts: 759
    edited June 2017
    I have the 300 cc Smooth rounds and feel like they are just the right size. My rib cage is 29.5 inches. After exchange, I wear a 32D or 34C. On your pathology report, it will tell you how many grams of tissue was removed during your MX. I think this is a good way to gauge your final size. For example, I had 200 grams (=ccs) removed and 300 ccs put back in, so I'm about 50% larger than I was pre- MX. I know this is not an exact comparison, but if you want to stay the same size after exchange as you were pre-MX, try shooting for about the same number of ccs as you had removed.
  • TrmTab
    TrmTab Member Posts: 832
    edited June 2017

    Noodles

    This may not be what you want to hear, but it is way too soon for you to overdue and their being stars after stretching too much is not unreasonable.  The part that you may not want to hear is I am over 1 year out and in my yoga/pilates class there is one stretch/pose bending over my left side that gets me every time -- major cramp, not stars, but I lose my breath for a second and have to calm back down to continue...I still have TE in L so I do have things stitched down (and pec muscles cut to get the TE in) so don't know which is the cause, but it is my new normal...

    TT

  • Kacop
    Kacop Member Posts: 8
    edited June 2017

    Noodlesmom: I just got back on here after a few weeks and just saw some of your issues. I didn't read too far back in your posts so I may be way off here...

    3 /12 weeks is really soon. I know you are probably already over the physical limitations, but my PS was adamant that the pocket needed to heal with as little extra jostling and movement as possible. Also, this seems a little different from what I often see, but I had a hard time the first month or so with my TEs and it got a little better eventually. The plastic edges were so sharp and actually felt better after a few fillups. The edges rounded out and weren't so irritating. When my PS put the expanders in after my BMX, however, he didn't fill them up at all. So, basically, there was just a hard piece of plastic under muscle that had just been cut through. Again, the fillups softened the edges of the expanders and gave me a little relief...


  • EastcoastTS
    EastcoastTS Member Posts: 864
    edited June 2017

    Noodlesmom:

    My TEs felt better after a few fills, too. Left side/lower corner was really painful but it must have moved off the nerve when filled. And the first 4-6 weeks with TEs was pretty uncomfortable but I think due to BMX healing as much as anything. I also had burning all along the bottom (along with pain on the incision site) which I've heard can be reaction (normal) to Alloderm. All of this has gone away mostly with me. They're about as okay as they can be at this point.


  • Scottiemom11
    Scottiemom11 Member Posts: 1,298
    edited June 2017

    Noodles. . .I agree with all here. I could not reach or stretch at 3-4 weeks after BMX. It was a good three months before I could lift anything, even after I went back to work I was limited for some time. Hang in there and give yourself time to heal.

    Scottie

  • noodlesmom
    noodlesmom Member Posts: 43
    edited June 2017

    Thank you so much for all of your replies. My oncologic surgeon had me doing stretches at my 2 week post op visit; they're the same stretches I've now been doing on my own but just so painful on that left side! Patience is so tough but I know it's necessary. It doesn't help that sleep comes in short intervals. I have a wedge and a borrowed lazyboy, but I just can't seem to sleep more than 2 hours at a time. I get up, walk around, switch locations, try again. I have a prescription for a muscle relaxer and tried taking 1/2, but was still wide awake after a few hours. Has anyone found anything that works well and doesn't knock you out the next day?

    Scottiemom- Is there a reason your TE's have been in so long? When do you get to trade them out?

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