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  • Scottiemom11
    Scottiemom11 Member Posts: 1,298
    edited June 2017

    Shoregirl. . .glad it flipped back. Sounds like your PS needs to do more pocket work. For my original exchange I was sore for 6-8 weeks, bu I also had lipo then. This go round, with the CC surgery and the skin removal for dog ears, I'm still a little sore and I'm 2.5 months post surgery. I had a lot of scar tissue though. Every one is different.

    Best wishes,

    Scottie

  • robinblessed54
    robinblessed54 Member Posts: 578
    edited June 2017

    shoregirl, I took 2 weeks off for exchange, but could have gone back to work in a week. I had pocket work under imf on right side to even them out. It was sore, but tolerable. I have the textured anatomical implants so they stay put in their pockets. It takes at least 6 months for swelling etc to occur, and as was said, everyone is different.

    Are you sleeping on your side? You shouldn't be yet. Put a pillow on your sides to prevent it. And just because you can, doesn't mean you should!

    Robin


  • MinusTwo
    MinusTwo Member Posts: 16,634
    edited June 2017

    shoregirl - I agree, your PS will have to do some tightening up or this will be an ongoing problem. Do let us know what he says

  • survivor117
    survivor117 Member Posts: 1
    edited June 2017

    Hi, I'm about to have my exchange (in a few weeks) surgery and I'm nervous that I won't be happy with the size of the implant. I am large framed and had 500 CC Allegran Natrelle 133 Plus MV 14 Expander placed earlier this year in both breasts (after mastectomy). The expanders were inflated to 550CC but are still way too small for my body. My surgeon assured me that they would bring larger implants into the exchange surgery. I'm wondering how large I could possibly end up with? Would 700 CC be realistic? Has anybody increased implant size from expander size? How much were you able to increase by?

  • VegGal
    VegGal Member Posts: 507
    edited June 2017

    I had 450 in my expanders and had 595 cc implants placed. I am in the process of planning a revision using up to 700 cc implants.

    Be sure you and your doc are completely on the same page before surgery. Measure twice, cut once!

    Best wishes!

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited June 2017

    survivor - is there some reason that your PS elected not to over-expand your TE more? Generally, implants look somewhat smaller than expanders, and I am skeptical as to how much larger an implant can fit in your expanded pocket. Your PS can over-expand your TE well beyond 550ccs and then you can either fit a 800cc silicone implant, which is the largest commercially available, or you can have a saline filled implant that has saline added beyond 800ccs. I would recommend making a post on this thread - read the header carefully and supply the needed info - the OP of this thread is exceedingly knowledgeable and can advise the best course of action.

    https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/44/topics/746448?page=478#post_4980702

  • kingster
    kingster Member Posts: 333
    edited June 2017

    Shoregirl, I wore a snug fitting bra 24 hours a day. This should help keep things in place. Scar tissue will form around the implant eventually. I still get sore depending on my activity, and I am 3 years next month. I liked the genie bra for bed. Keep those implants secured😃

  • kingster
    kingster Member Posts: 333
    edited June 2017

    Survivor, depends on how thin your skin flap is. Ask ps prior to surgery. And implants look smaller than expanders usually. Also depends if you have any radiation damage. I have 700 ml implants and I was filled to 700 ml. I weight 180 ish. I am a C cup generally. No rads and healthy skin. Non smoker.


  • Scottiemom11
    Scottiemom11 Member Posts: 1,298
    edited June 2017

    Survivor. . .ask about ultra high profile if that is an option for the implants you are looking at. I went from HP 300 ccs to UHP 300 ccs with my March revision for CC. I definitely have more projection. Also, I may be the exception to the rule, but I was only expanded to 250 ccs and they were able to put larger implants in at EX.

    Scottie

  • Shoregirl
    Shoregirl Member Posts: 375
    edited June 2017

    Thanks Scottie. I have incisions from IMF all the way under my armpits to beneath my shoulder blades (about 12") to correct dog ears. The right side he stitched to tight under my arm and by shoulder blade. It pulls when I lay down and try to change positions.

    Robin, ack!!! I had NO IDEA I wasn't supposed to sleep on my side. It is like a security blanket for me, I started as soon as I was able, probably 2 weeks post op! My fiance says I stop breathing when sleeping on my back.

    Kingster, I wore a snug bra the 1st 4 weeks, then my ps's assistant told me I could go without. I still wear one during the day, but stopped sleeping in them as my skin was getting sensitive. I checked out the Genie website, its hard for me to imagine them being supportive but they do look comfy and the reviews did say they are supportive. They have a special right now 2 pack for $9.99

  • EastcoastTS
    EastcoastTS Member Posts: 864
    edited June 2017

    Scottiemom:

    May I ask what cup size you are now? If you don't mind estimating. My reason: I'm expanded to 260cc and you are like one of the few who is around my sizing! I feel huge. 300cc is max for me -- perhaps a tad smaller. I might look into the ultra high profile. Idk. Confused by all the choices. My PS prefers gummy bear -- about all I know so far.

  • Scottiemom11
    Scottiemom11 Member Posts: 1,298
    edited June 2017

    EastcoastTS . . .I am between a B and a C cup. C cup Hanes sports bras are a little loose. I have a fairly small chest and I was barely a B before kids then B to C after. I now have Mentor UHP 300 cc implants and I really like the projection, which is more than I had with the Mentor HP 300 cc implants from first EX.

    I will add that my new PS talked me out of going smaller. I thought it would be easier on my pecs, ie., less pressure on them. Turns out all of the nerve pain was from CC and is mostly gone now. I am back to lifting small weights and have hopes of a much better recovery this go round.

    Scottie

  • robinblessed54
    robinblessed54 Member Posts: 578
    edited June 2017

    Eastcoast,

    I had my TE's filled to 420 and had 475 gummie bear implants put in. You have to put bigger implants than filled with gummies so they fit snug. I was a B cup and I requested to be similar to what I was. Cup size is not the same with implants but I would say I am a large B to a small C. I am very happy with them and I have the 3D nipple tattoos that are amazing! If you want a PM with pictures, just let me know and I will be happy to send them. Other than a keloid scar on the right side, it couldn't be much better of an outcome.

  • Mominator
    Mominator Member Posts: 1,575
    edited June 2017

    Survivor117, EastcoastTS, and CarlaEM, be sure to check out Breast Implant Sizing 101. Whippetmom is very helpful with sizing questions. Be sure to read her original post and answer all the questions. https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/44/topics/746448

    Shoregirl, you can use pillows so not to sleep on your side. If you find the snoring is too much, you can sleep propped up on a reading pillow. For both BMX and EX, I used the reading pillow for the first 6 weeks, then I used pillows under my breasts for a few weeks before side sleeping unsupported.

  • Shoregirl
    Shoregirl Member Posts: 375
    edited June 2017

    Thanks Mominator. I have one of those reading pillows :) I just received an email from my ps in reply to me telling him it flipped back and asking what we can do to be sure it doesn't happen again. He said avoid side sleeping for the next few weeks, wear a compression or snug sports bra (My Genies are on their way!) to hopefully hold the implants in place over the next 2-4 weeks while the pocket continues to heal. He also said "at this point in your healing, time and patience are very beneficial to your recovery. I am here for you, and I will do what it takes to help care for you fully: downsizing implants is relatively straightforward. Fat grafting is also a reasonable option for contouring of small areas, like the edge of the implant and other subtle asymmetries – plus you get a little lipo and who doesn't want that! It has been a great honor to be part of your care. I think you are a fantastic patient!"

    I love my PS again, lol!! I feel bad I ranted about him, chalk it up to the stress of this whole crazy DX!!

  • MinusTwo
    MinusTwo Member Posts: 16,634
    edited June 2017

    Shorgirl - you might also check the Danskin sports bras at WalMart. I didn't care for the Genie bra and didn't feel it gave me enough compression.

  • Scottiemom11
    Scottiemom11 Member Posts: 1,298
    edited June 2017

    robinblessed54 . . .did you get your Tattoos at PS or from Vinnie. Just curious. I finally have an appointment for mine with PS next Friday. I can't afford the trip to Vinnie right now and insurance is covering.

    Scottie

  • VegGal
    VegGal Member Posts: 507
    edited June 2017

    Mominator, my new PS, Whippetmom and myself are all on the same page about size and type. My only decision/issue is whether to switch to prepectoral placement as my PS wants. I am very much on the fence about that. We'll get it figured out, though!

  • robinblessed54
    robinblessed54 Member Posts: 578
    edited June 2017

    Scottie, I originally had the tattoos done by PA in office. They ended up looking like the Target sign at the mall within 6 months. I had them redone at a tattoo parlor 45 minutes from my house! By Corey Miller of LAInk fame. OMG! They are amazing! They look so real even looking down on them it looks like they protrude! Medical grade ink is not permanent. These are mine forever! I paid $600

    Robin


  • Goldene
    Goldene Member Posts: 9
    edited June 2017

    Mominator and Shoregirl, thank you! I had an apointment with my PS yertrday and I'm healing nicely. Today I have some mild pain in incisions area (inframammary on both sides).

    Shoregirl. . .glad your implant flipped back! Sounds like your PS needs to do more pocket work, it's great he understands you again and will fix everythng for you.

  • Herculesmulligan
    Herculesmulligan Member Posts: 175
    edited June 2017

    shoregirl.....I love your PS too! What a beautiful sentiment, beautifully expressed.

  • Shoregirl
    Shoregirl Member Posts: 375
    edited June 2017

    Thank you MinusTwo, I will check those out!

    Golden, glad you are healing well!! No side sleeping! :)

    Hercules, yes, it was very sweet of my ps to send that email. He is a great guy!!

    Robin, too funny your comment about Target sign! Someone told me Vinnie doesn't repair other people's work, not sure if it's true. I had thought of getting tats in ps office, and if they were not good, save up for Vinnie. I am really wanting to try nipple reconstruction, but my ps doesn't do it, and strongly advises me against it. There is a ps that takes my insurance and does them, so I may consult with him. I want to talk with women who had surgery over a year ago, see how they hold up long term. I may have to get some pasties to hold me over as it's going to be a long road since I may be downsizing.

  • Mominator
    Mominator Member Posts: 1,575
    edited June 2017

    Carla: wow, switch to prepectoral placement? What are the pros/cons in your case? Will this help you with greater volume or definition?

    Goldene: glad you're healing.

    Shoregirl: I love your PS too. Glad your implant flipped back. I hope it stays in place. You may want to do a search on nipple recon, or start a new thread. I've seen complaints that nipple recon doesn't last. Of course, we'll tend to see more of the complaints than the praises.

  • VegGal
    VegGal Member Posts: 507
    edited June 2017

    Mominator,

    Yes, the surgeon proposed that we switch to prepectoral using a Natrelle SCX implant to make my whole chest more "front and center" and to improve projection. She recommends fat grafting in the upper pole to create a natural slope. The biggest "pro" would be no more animation when I use my pecs. Animation doesn't really bother me, however.

    For me the cons, would be trying to cover up the implant edges using fat grafting. I don't have a whole lot of fat to spare and what if I resorb it? Ugh! I have good upper pole coverage and cleavage with my pecs now and ripples are only on the sides, which ideally will be greatly improved with the different implant alone. I also worry about my poor middle-aged thin skin stretching and sagging with the weight of a nearly 700 cc implant. I am going for a perky look.

    Anyway, we scheduled the revision for August with a pre-op in July. I will need a LOT of convincing that switching to prepectoral will be superior. Any input is greatly appreciated.

    C

  • robinblessed54
    robinblessed54 Member Posts: 578
    edited June 2017

    Carla, I would rethink that one, especially if you are comfortable with it now. Maybe try an anatomical sub pectoral.

    Robin


  • MinusTwo
    MinusTwo Member Posts: 16,634
    edited June 2017

    Carla - I agree about the skin. It gets thinner every year. If for no other reason, I would not put the implants on top of the pecs.

  • VegGal
    VegGal Member Posts: 507
    edited June 2017

    Thanks Robin and MinusTwo. My gut has been telling me the same since I left the PS's office in April. Robin, I already have Natrelle 410's and have found them not suited to my body.

  • MinusTwo
    MinusTwo Member Posts: 16,634
    edited June 2017

    Carla: Did you go to Breast Implant Sizing 101 yet? Read the entire header and post the information required, along with your questions. Whippetmom is a wealth of knowledge and had helped many of us. BTW - I do have Allergan 410s and am very happy with them, but we're all different.

    https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/44/topics...


  • VegGal
    VegGal Member Posts: 507
    edited June 2017

    Yes, I did that last fall when I began searching for a new PS. Whippetmom recommended the type of implant I'm set to get in August.

    The 410's are too wide for my ribcage and I have a lot of sideboob. Righty has rotated 30 degrees and Lefty's pocket is too small so it has never settled properly and looks constricted in the upper pole. There is notable asymmetry with Righty being a good 1.5 inches lower than Lefty. Those problems make me more than ready to get rid of the 410's.


  • kingster
    kingster Member Posts: 333
    edited June 2017

    Carla, mine are mentor memory gels smooth rounds under muscle. The foobs look weird when I flex, but I've gotten used to that. I think it offers more protection to the implant. Helps keep the implants in place since I have strong pecs.

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