Starting Rads in March 2017

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  • WenchLori
    WenchLori Member Posts: 1,558
    edited May 2017

    Cindy, now I can see your dx info! My phone is not as smart as they say it is. You had positive nodes as I did and that was why I didn't hesitate to go through with the radiation. Good luck on making your decision 🤞


  • misslil
    misslil Member Posts: 260
    edited May 2017

    Hope everyone is doing well.

    My redness and all the swelling/ouchiness is gone from the radiation, still tanned/brown-ish and skin has a little bit tougher texture in areas. Overall can't complain!

  • Giginb
    Giginb Member Posts: 9
    edited May 2017

    I am coming to the end of my radiation. I have 3 of 33 left. There are 2 other women that I have come to know that have their rads done at the same time as me. I want to give them a card with my contact info so if they are interested we can stay in touch via Facebook, christmas cards or whatever. Is this strange? So bad with words, what should I say?

  • bravepoint
    bravepoint Member Posts: 404
    edited May 2017

    Cindy - My chemo ended March 17th. Radiation started April 18th. I have 1 boost left so have done 28/29. I was fine until #21 then my nipple started to get really red and sore. I have hydrocortisone cream and flamizine which have helped. I wanted to know that I had done everything I could to beat cancer. No regrets! Good luck with your decision.

  • javamama
    javamama Member Posts: 119
    edited May 2017

    Cindy, I was like you as well. All on the fence about rads. But I met with the RO and I read the research myself and came to the decision that rads was necessary in my case. Chemo helps destroys cells that might have traveled. Rads kill cells in the location of the tumor. And from what I've read when there is a recurrence, it happens where the tumor was taken out. In other words, local recurrence. They are now speculating that when the tumor is removed, some of the cells with cancer get dragged along the exit path. Anyway, the newer studies ALL indicate that the recurrence rate when chemo is combined with rads is significantly diminished. And if you are borderline with having to have rads and maybe not having it, the studies should push you over into getting zapped.

    My concerns with rads was long term she effects. Shitty skin now isn't my concern. I was worried about heart damage and lung disease and bone cancers. I discussed this all with my RO. Now, I think RO are less able to deal with patients. I mean they were trained to really focus on films and very few have protracted patient interaction, except in cancer and other serious disease treatment. So... he wasn't always fuzzy. What my RO was, however, is open-minded. He was willing to research more for me when he didn't have an answer to my question and he was willing to go to the conference in Texas and ask fellow ROs. He was willing to read the research I brought him. All of that. Very open-minded. So, I say ll this to tell you that if you have questions or concerns, bring them up. And make your doctors give you answers until you feel comfortable with the information they've given you.

    Anyway, if you decide not to do rads or if even if you do, and for all of us, in 5-10-15 years cancer treatment will have taken another evolution. I figure by the time I get off of hormone suppression crap, they'll have figured out a way to permanently shut down rogue cancer cell production, or pretty darn close with immunotherapy. What I am trying to say... no matter what your decision, I don't think it's a life changer. It just moves the odds numbers around a bit.

  • CeliaC
    CeliaC Member Posts: 1,320
    edited May 2017

    Cindy - I was very worried about the rads, but after all was said & done, wanted to be sure I had done all I could to kick the Beast. Not sure what long term effects might be due to rads on left side, but did the deep breath hold technique & was advised by the RO that they mapped the different radiation fields to avoid heart/lungs as well. Was extremely fearful of skin effects, but to no avail, as they were minimal. Fatigue was the #1 side effect for me. Loss of appetite occurred as well, but since trying to shed some extra pounds, this was actually a welcome side effect. Sending inspirational thoughts to you as you make your decisions.


  • Tappermom383
    Tappermom383 Member Posts: 643
    edited May 2017

    Celia - hoping that loss of appetite kicks in soon!

    MJ


  • WenchLori
    WenchLori Member Posts: 1,558
    edited June 2017

    I'd like some of that loss of appetite too!


  • misslil
    misslil Member Posts: 260
    edited June 2017

    My appetite was reasonably normal through the radiation regime. But for some reason I was super-hungry and ate everything in sight for about a week after I finished. Gained 5 or 6 lbs :( But otherwise healing well from the radiation.

  • WenchLori
    WenchLori Member Posts: 1,558
    edited June 2017

    I lost my appetite during chemo due to no taste buds and lost 15 lbs but once my taste buds came back I ate everything in sight. It tasted so goood!! Now I weigh 10 lbs more than I did when I was diagnosed. Oh bother!


  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited June 2017

    I'm in similar indecision as Cindy. In my case tumor turned out to be 1.4 cm but the surgeon got good margins, over 3mm each direction. No lymph node spread (5 sentinel nodes were checked). Stage 1, grade 2, low mitosis, HER2-, 100% er and pr.. will definitely be on tamoxifen.

    They are really pushing me for rads because I'm 49 and perimenopause and of course it is the standard of care. (Though here are major studies right now looking at post menopausal age 50+ women with early stage er+/HER2- who do lumpectomy and hormone ONLY, so some smart people must think it may turn out to be a reasonable choice to forego the rads)

    My worries are about the long term effects of radiation induced second cancers like melanoma, angiosarcoma, and lung, fibrosis in lung, lymphedema (some lymph nodes do get hit even if they aren't specifically targeting them) and nerve pain/fibrosis etc that limits my arm/shoulder mobility.

    They are telling me all those chances are very low, like 1/100 for some, 1/1000 for others, and the risk of local recurrence without rads might be 10% more for me (that rads would take me down from 15-20% chance of local recur to a 5-10% chance of localrecur) Such a hard decision!

  • WenchLori
    WenchLori Member Posts: 1,558
    edited June 2017

    I don't have any long lasting effects from radiation, everything is back to normal including my skin color They have to let everyone know by law "what ifs" can happen. For me I had radiation and would do it again in a heartbeat.


  • bravepoint
    bravepoint Member Posts: 404
    edited June 2017

    WenchLori - How long did it take for your taste buds to come back? Mine still aren't normal and I'm 1o weeks PFC.

  • WenchLori
    WenchLori Member Posts: 1,558
    edited June 2017

    Bravepoint, it took about 3-4 months to have complete taste buds back. It takes a while but so worth the wait! It was like having a party in my mouth with everything I ate for a few weeks. My hubby laughed at me with everything I ate. My sweet tooth isn't as bad as it used to be and I still can't have jalapeño slices on my potato salad like I used to and spicy went from spicy to SPICY! My favorite food is Mexican but you can't find good Mexican food in Indiana, they try but totally miss the mark. I'm a spoiled Texan at heart!


  • bravepoint
    bravepoint Member Posts: 404
    edited June 2017

    WenchLori - Good to know. So I just need to be patient! I already find that sweet stuff is not nearly as appealing as it once was which is probably a good thing....

  • WenchLori
    WenchLori Member Posts: 1,558
    edited June 2017

    I'm surprised I have any teeth left with my old sweet tooth! I better be careful I have a dentist appointment next week and I know my teeth took a huge hit after my chemo. 🤞


  • bravepoint
    bravepoint Member Posts: 404
    edited June 2017

    WenchLori - I went to the dentist for a cleaning between chemo and rads and things went better than I expected! You'll be fine.

  • ReginaZ
    ReginaZ Member Posts: 41
    edited June 2017

    Epic, I had a really hard time deciding on rads and initially I declined. My thinking was that if it didn't have a survival benefit ( it didn't ) why would I subject myself to the even small risk of long- term side effects? My surgeon in the end convinced me to do it because I had some cancer cells in one node and my margins, though clear, were not great.

    Now I feel pretty much back to normal and am hoping that I am done with cancer for good!

    I wish you all the best in making this difficult decision.

    Regina

  • WenchLori
    WenchLori Member Posts: 1,558
    edited June 2017

    Bravepoint, I've got 3 fillings that fell out and 2 others that have broken off. I have very, very soft teeth and I wear upper and lower partials. I'm not looking forward to my dental visit at all! If I had my way I'd have them all pulled and have implants done. I'm checking into it once I get things started but after looking at what my BC has cost so far I'm not sure I want to know how much it will cost. I'm just glad we have awesome insurance!


  • CeliaC
    CeliaC Member Posts: 1,320
    edited June 2017

    Yikes, about the effects on teeth. Think I have busted and then had caps on almost every tooth that this could happen to. First 6 month dental visit since just prior to lumpectomy is on 6/21. Hoping that all is well on the dental front.

  • WenchLori
    WenchLori Member Posts: 1,558
    edited June 2017

    I can't complain to much about my dental exam this morning. I've had 1 extraction and I'll go back to get 2 fillings next week. I'll need new partials with the new missing tooth. Uhg


  • RobinLT
    RobinLT Member Posts: 72
    edited June 2017

    Hi all.... first time in this forum. I have been hanging out in the lumpectomy lounge. Question for you. I am 6 days away from finishing my 30 rounds of chemo. So far it has been a breeze. No terrible fatigue and the "burning" kept under control with emu oil.

    But... suddenly the underside of my boob is basically purple and really REALLY sore. I don't have the option of going braless. I have large heavy girls and have always been uncomfortable without a bra, even sleeping.

    So I have lined my bra with a large piece of fleece so the bra doesn't irritate. But somehow the underneath area where the bra goes around my ribs has taken a beating.

    I start my boost tomorrow, and hopefully it won't include the under side. But I would love some sage advice while this heals and grows more skin.

    Any thoughts...

  • WenchLori
    WenchLori Member Posts: 1,558
    edited June 2017

    Robin, welcome. Most of the ladies started wearing camisoles instead of bras. Maybe you can wear one under your bra or get a bra that's a size bigger around so it'll be a little looser and not rub so much. I had a DBMX so I didn't have a problem with the area under my breasts. Hopefully you'll be able to find relief soon!


  • Oasis2016
    Oasis2016 Member Posts: 52
    edited July 2017

    Lori have you done your exchange surgery? My PS just told me to consider flap as he thinks radiated skin will shrink more and caused tightness around the implant. The breast will also look deform.

  • WenchLori
    WenchLori Member Posts: 1,558
    edited July 2017

    Oasis, hi, how are you doing? I haven't had my exchange surgery yet. My PS says I can have it done at any time now and just to give him a call when I'm ready. Tomorrow is my mastectoversary and I had thought about having it done then but I decided I had my summer pulled out from under me last year and I didn't want to do the same thing to myself this year. So I've decided to wait until this fall when my pool was shut down and my garden was done for the summer. My implant made it through radiation with flying colors and I don't have any problem with my skin being to tight. I have noticed more tightness on my treated side since I started swimming, I guess I forgot I still have my pec muscles lol



  • ILSunrise
    ILSunrise Member Posts: 130
    edited July 2017

    Lori - good plan on waiting for your exchange surgery until after summer is over. You deserve to enjoy all the things you missed out on last year.

  • Oasis2016
    Oasis2016 Member Posts: 52
    edited July 2017

    Hi Lori,

    My TE has shifted up and out, towards my armpit during my chemo days. It isn't comfortable but bearable. Met my PS today and gave him a flat NO for DIEP/TRAM flap. Told him I will take one step at a time even if I have CC or need fat grafting. For now, I just do not wish to cut any part of my unaffected body or get my muscles rearranged. He was very understanding and agreed to just take it one step at a time. I'm scheduled for the exchange on 2 August. Got a fill today and having some aching near the armpit.


  • WenchLori
    WenchLori Member Posts: 1,558
    edited July 2017

    Oasis, sounds like your putting yourself first as you should. Some of our doctors are in to big of a hurry, they don't realize that occasionally we need to slow down and take a breather every now and then. They do these things on a daily basis but it's all new to some of us.

    I met with my PCP this morning, we've been working on adjusting my anti-depression and anxiety meds. He increased on a few months ago with no change so he adjusted another this morning. We'll see how it goes. I'm trying to decide if it's actually my depression raising its ugly head or if it just might be chemobrain? Only time will tell


  • Oasis2016
    Oasis2016 Member Posts: 52
    edited July 2017

    Sorry to hear about the anti-depression meds, hope it is just the chemobrain. I too am heavily reliant on my calendar for reminders. I had missed a PT session on my left arm cording probably due to chemobrain :(

  • WenchLori
    WenchLori Member Posts: 1,558
    edited July 2017

    We've had the same type of chemo and only a few weeks apart. Chemobrain really sucks, sometimes it makes me feel like a child again... nothing sticks! My PCP doubled my Wellbutrin and I'm feeling much better and getting a lot more done. I'm praying this med increase works. I hate the thought of having to start over with different drugs as it took over a year to find a combination that worked for me.


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