Cytoxan Taxotere Chemo Ladies- May 2017

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  • rdsm
    rdsm Member Posts: 68
    edited June 2017

    Hi. I'm on Day 19 after 1st infusion. Next one is on Monday. I have been feeling great this week and not looking forward to starting on the roller coaster again. I definitely had annoying side effects (diarrhea, nose bleeds, joint paint, metal taste in mouth, mouth sores, insomnia, heart burn just to name a few). But as I got farther out, they all tapered off.

    My hair started to shed (I'm cold capping) a few days ago. It's frightening to see. Yesterday, my side burns basically came off. Wondering if it's from wearing my sun glasses. I will continue to cold cap and baby my hair and praying for good results. I had chemo back in 1999 and lost all my hair. I still think that if I can preserve something it will be easier to grow it back when I'm done with treatments. I'm a planner so I've already loaded up on Toppik and L"oreal Root Cover up. Wondering if I should have a back up plan. Last time I wore a wig but it was Fall/Winter. If my hair gets so bad, I'm thinking I will be a "scarf person" this time around. Would wearing a scarf defeat all the hard work I've put into cold capping already?

  • EmHaich52
    EmHaich52 Member Posts: 13
    edited June 2017
    Rdsm-- we are on almost the same schedule. My second treatment is on Tuesday afternoon and I am also cold capping. I have had a lot of shedding for the past two days as well. I am eating a hat every day -- I started that as woods as I started chemo so I wouldn't be overly anxious about how much hair I had or how it looked on any given day. My cold capping goal is to speed up regrowth so that I can look back to normal sooner. I have a very public job so looking different than usual is a challenge. I do have a wig and I have practiced wearing it once or twice. But even though I look more like myself in the wig than in my hats, i feel less like myself in it. I have a bunch of very public events coming up in July and August so maybe I will wear it for those.

    I hope everything goes well for you on Monday.
  • VLevic
    VLevic Member Posts: 30
    edited June 2017

    GingerA, I have another breast cancer patient that I talked and met during her last and my first chemo day. She gave me all the things I need to learn about CC and her husband even showed my husband on how to do it. She has a long thick hair and kept it all when I saw her. Actually, I didn't shed at all after chemo and the first 3 weeks but today, the morning of my second chemo, I started shedding hair. Don't give up yet because there will be some hair loss even with CC but you keep most of your hair. A volunteer lady from the cancer center just visited me and told me she had breast CA 4x and told me to take Biotin supplement as well. Anyway, after the first week, I felt better. I just told someone that when it's about time you feel back to yourself again, that's when it's chemo time again. For those of you that have a metallic taste from chemo, the dietitian just told me to mix 1 teaspoon of baking soda, 1/2 tsp of salt to a 12 oz water and swish before and after eating to help with that. Not looking forward to the next few days but will hang in there! Stay strong ladies of this group! We will all make it! It is difficult and scary but knowledge is power and having you all share your experience and be able to vent feels good! We all have each other!

  • MomAngel
    MomAngel Member Posts: 28
    edited June 2017

    laurieellen!


    Thank you so much. I went with my mom to all of her chemo appointments, radiation appointments and cyberknife appointments I watched her die of lung cancer. But by the time they caught hers it had spread too far. I had one person on here private message me and she has me scared so bad that I'm questioning going through with chemo. But my mom had high aggressively chemo s didn't get sick once sick very tired. She passed away 14 years ago.

    BUt this private message left me questioning myself and getting chemo.

    Thank you for everything.

  • carmstr835
    carmstr835 Member Posts: 388
    edited June 2017

    I am on Day 16. Lost a few strands of hair the last 2 days, but seems a bit better today. I washed it last nightfor only the 2nd time. I wash on Thursdays. and did not wash it at all the first week. I am using the dignicap and hope to keep the majority of my hair, too. I have zero SE now and feel great. Still a few issues with my right arm and cording from my surgery, but working on it. I have some new exercises to help. My PT is quite concerned I still have so much cording as well as 2 seromas in my left under arm. (3.6 cm) but the seromas don't hurt, just a bit uncomfortable. Doesn't seem to be any issues that are affected by my chemo treatments, so I guess I am good to go for the next one June 7th, this will be chemo 2/4, almost 1/2 way there. Good luck everyone and her's hoping for less SE for all.

  • carmstr835
    carmstr835 Member Posts: 388
    edited June 2017

    Mom Angel, I also watched my mother die of lung cancer, I know all those thoughts and memories well. Good luck and tell your MO your concerns. They really do understand these types of fears. I know logically it is a different type of cancer, that is was long ago and there are more advances. It didn't change my fears. My oncologist is treating my cancer even more aggressively that he would have otherwise, and that makes me feel a bit better about it.

  • GingerA
    GingerA Member Posts: 18
    edited June 2017

    Hi everyone, my second round was supposed to be last Tuesday but my Dr. wanted me to get a CT Scan first. Since I was having a lot of pain in my upper back, she wanted to make sure there was no blood clot in my lung. It turned out to be fine but my chemo was postponed to next Tuesday. In the meantime, my hair kept shedding like crazy...started on the 14th day and for about 10 days. I do have some hair left but it has gotten very thin. I bought a bunch of fashionable pre-tied scarves on Etsy and Amazon. I also plan to buy some wigs. As long as I have some hair, I'm not giving up on Cold Cap, only because I heard and read that your hair would grow back faster. As for the next round of chemo, I wonder if it is cumulative,,,does it get harder each time? Or is it different each time? I know everyone's experience is different. My first was not too bad, I still went to work mostly but quite challenging battling with the different side-effects. I never had nausea and that was good.








  • MomAngel
    MomAngel Member Posts: 28
    edited June 2017

    I start TC on Wednesday June 7th. I'm terrified. I have high anxieties and they act up when I'm vomiting or nuasous. That's what I'm afraid of. My hair yes it'll upset me when it falls out but it'll grow back, I can handle being tired and sleep a lot . Vomiting and being nauseous I can't handle it.

  • rdsm
    rdsm Member Posts: 68
    edited June 2017

    MomAngel: I too am horrible about vomiting and nausea. I am having my 2nd treatment on Monday. First treatment was not too bad for me. Never vomited and didn't feel nauseous. There are lots of meds to prevent that. Be sure to communicate with your doctor and let them know how you feel, they can change your meds if necessary. Easier said than done but try not to worry about it. Mind over matter . find your happy place! You can do this!

  • LeesaD
    LeesaD Member Posts: 383
    edited June 2017

    Momangel- echoing rdsm above you can do this. I was fearful too. I just had my second treatment this past Wed. and I've been managing the nausea with the meds. Day of chemo nurses gave me aloxi which is supposed to last five days for nausea. But then I also got a three day Emend pack for nausea and compazine and zofran. I've taken the emend day of and for the two days after and the compazine every eight hours to stay ahead of it. Can't take the zofran until five days after as they said it will counter effect the aloxi. By day five after first treatment I didn't need the zofran and I was fine. Nausea lasted only four days after first treetment so hoping it stays same with this one and I'll have one more day. Eating does help but I've only been able to stomach toast or bagels or crackers. Carbs have been my friend. Then after five days I felt very good for two weeks. With all the meds there is no need to vomit or suffer. Stay ahead of it and take whatever they give you. Best of luck!

  • Tassie
    Tassie Member Posts: 7
    edited June 2017

    Greetings, fellow warriors! I started TC on May 26. Neulasta SE kicked in hard on June 1. Claritin helped considerably, the nurse said "you might as well take Claritin everyday while in chemo." Yesterday was the pits, many trips to the bathroom and significant stomach pain. Today is a good day. I tell people that I was in my own body when I went for the infusion, but I came out with someone else's body. Hoping to get back to short runs these next two weeks. Glad to be traveling with you on this journey, hang in there.

  • hallsnj5
    hallsnj5 Member Posts: 258
    edited June 2017

    Welcome Tassie! We are on very similar Dx. Though mine was a recurrance after mastectomy for DCIS with micro invasion, I also had DCIS with 2- 1 cm IDC tumors. Seems they are treating more first occurrences with chemo now. This weekend is so much better than last weekend! I am looking forward to 2 good weeks before getting hit again!

    Mom angel- I understand your fear and I was right there where you are. The unexpected is the worst! I get very nauseous after surgery so I was worried about that too. Thankfully, I did fine. Some things that helped me were drinking green tea with fresh ginger, eating something small every 2 hours, and ginger candy was great! Will say a prayer for you on Monday!


  • MomAngel
    MomAngel Member Posts: 28
    edited June 2017

    thank you hallsnj5! I have ginger ale but I can't have tea I'm allergic to green tea. The unknown is the worst fear. This is my third bout with cancer all three were different types. My first was thyroid cancer and they removed my thyroid calcium finance and metabolism glands - treatment for that was iodine radiation pills and theny lymph nodes in my neck they removed them on the leftover side and iodine radiation for that too. Now Breast Cancer. I have to admit I am terrified for Wednesday.

  • EmHaich52
    EmHaich52 Member Posts: 13
    edited June 2017
    Has anyone used self-tanning creams or had a spray tan while doing chemo? I think a bit of color on my legs and arms might make me look less "sickly." But I don't know if there is anything risky about doing this right now. I would appreciate any advice.
  • hallsnj5
    hallsnj5 Member Posts: 258
    edited June 2017

    Day 14- HAIR- We prepare for it, know it's coming, but when it actually starts falling out, reality hits and it is not pretty! Feeling very anxious!

    Mom angel- Good luck tomorrow. I hope you have smooth sailing!

    Em- I wonder about self tanning also

  • MomAngel
    MomAngel Member Posts: 28
    edited June 2017

    hallsnj5 thank you. Are you on the same regimen Taxotere and Cytoxan? I'm sorry about your hair, but look at it this way now your hair can grow back and you'll be a brand new healthy you!

  • laurieellenb
    laurieellenb Member Posts: 31
    edited June 2017

    Day 20 - tomorrow I'll have the 2nd of six TC infusions. I'm more anxious today than I thought I'd be. The first session went smoothly so I'm not sure where this is coming from. My husband says I think too much.

    Maybe it's the anticipation of the bone pain that's sure to follow? Or fear that this session will be more difficult than the first?

    Perhaps it's the loss of hair? Even though I got a really cute short haircut in anticipation of this eventuality, I think the nearly constant shedding has begun to weigh on my psyche and emotions. The hair fell out in kind of an orderly fashion, but I do have large bald spots. I have reached the point where I am considering shaving off what's left of my hair.

  • EmHaich52
    EmHaich52 Member Posts: 13
    edited June 2017
    Laurileellenb---I had #2 yesterday and, I too, felt anxiety ahead of time. I think our bodies now know to brace themselves for an assault. And the hair loss is shockingly traumatic. We just have to acknowledge that and then make a plan for how we are going to deal with it. I've decided on a wig to work and a cute soft set of caps at home. And I've been doing that for the last week. Getting used to it and finding our how relatively easy it is to cope with both wig and hat has made a difference in my mood. But I still need to cry a little every day!

    I will be sending you good thoughts. My #2 went very well yesterday and I hope yours does too.
  • rdsm
    rdsm Member Posts: 68
    edited June 2017

    I've thought about self tanner too. Have you seen this website? It's so helpful to research beauty products and how safe they are.

    Click here to check it out:

    EWG

    and here's the search for self tanners.

    https://www.ewg.org/skindeep/search.php?query=self...

  • EmHaich52
    EmHaich52 Member Posts: 13
    edited June 2017
    Thanks RDSM-- I bit the bullet and just used the stuff I typically use at home on just my lower legs. If I don't have a reaction, I'll consider a professional spray tan for a better look. Although, now that I have decided to wear a wig to work and when out of the house, I may look so healthy and pretty I won't feel as though I need this boost!
  • laurieellenb
    laurieellenb Member Posts: 31
    edited June 2017

    EmHaich52 - Thanks for your response. It's days like these that I am so glad to have found this forum. I've got caps and scarves. I'm going to get a wig at some point. I'm trying to figure out what will work for me. Maybe a good cry is what I need.

    I'm glad #2 went well. Sending good wishes your way.

  • GingerA
    GingerA Member Posts: 18
    edited June 2017

    Hi Ladies! I had my second infusion yesterday one week late due to the CT scan I had to have last week. It went ok and I still used the cold capper though I've lost a significant amount of hair in the past 2 weeks. I've been just buying cute pre-tied head gears and scarves, sleep caps and things like that and getting used to wearing them at home and outside, took some courage to wear them to work. I've always had very long, thick, curly hair. But seeing some ladies at the hospital and here on this board, and how great they are coping with it and how beautiful they look, have definitely helped me deal with mine. I cried once when my long hair started falling out in big chunks. I could see through my scalp in the mirror and I thought it made me look 20 years older. But I have accepted it and I'm actually having some fun shopping online and trying out some new look, it keeps my mind off other stuff. I'm also planning to get some wigs from charity organizations or doctor's prescription as well. I also have been learning how to tie fashionable headwraps using regular square and rectangular scarves on YouTube tutorials. As far as taking supplements or using sprays, I'm going to hold off until I finish all my infusion schedules as I have been advised by my doctor and nurse. My only fear is the permanent hair loss that may happen to 10% of women. I still have my eyebrows and eye lashes and other hair in my body but I read they could come off much later. I do have permanently tattooed eyebrows but I'm getting a bunch of false lashes ready. I found out about Sephora's free make-up seminar for women going through chemo too, I had to cancel it once because I was feeling too weak that day but I plan to attend one day. I'm taking it easy at home today with Neulasta on my tummy again with the flashing green light. Started taking Claritin 2 days ago to avoid the excruciating back bone pain I suffered from last time. Hopefully it works. Otherwise I just feel weak and light-headed today. I plan to go back to work tomorrow.






  • lrwells50
    lrwells50 Member Posts: 254
    edited June 2017

    Laurieellenb, I have my second chemo Friday, and I'm just trying not to think about it too much. We live 2 hours away from Dallas, where I'm receiving my chemo, and I have a follow-up with my BS on Thursday afternoon, so we're spending the night and my whole family (minus daughter #2 that lives in Indiana,) is going to Benihanas for dinner Thursday night. Probably not a great idea to have what is due to be a lot of salt the night before, but what the heck! I've been drinking a lot of water trying to plump up my veins.

    The hair thing has bothered me a lot more than I thought it would. Mine started shedding a little the afternoon of day 12, and I had it shaved to 3/4' on day 13, which was pretty traumatic. Since then it's been driving me crazy hurting and shedding like crazy. By today, day 19, I'd say I have maybe 5-10% left, and it's really hard on the ego to look at, so I try not to. I've not been wearing anything on it when home, because it's been shedding and itching more when I do, but the wig hasn't been too bad today, I'm guessing because there's not much left to itch! My scalp is the color of my off white bathroom sink....really lovely.

    I've had it so easy as far as side effects go compared to others, that I'm dreading #2 a little, but hoping that it goes as smoothly as #1.

  • laurieellenb
    laurieellenb Member Posts: 31
    edited June 2017

    Irwells50 - Thanks for sharing. It's so helpful to hear from others in similar circumstances.
    Most of my hair loss has been in the past two days. Prior to that, it was only thinning and barely noticeable. Now I'm all but bald in the front and on the top of my head. For some reason, the hair on the back of my head has only thinned so far. I had not been wearing any caps or scarves in the house, but I think I'm going to start (especially since I'm cutting off the rest of the hair later today). I think I'll take GingerA's advice and check out some YouTube videos - I'm a novice at tying scarves.

    While reading your post, I'm reminded how blessed I am to have a really fine breast cancer treatment center only 10 minutes from home. It means that my support network of friends and family are always close at hand. I'll be sending healing thoughts and prayers your way on Friday.

  • lrwells50
    lrwells50 Member Posts: 254
    edited June 2017

    laurieellenb, I have a good cancer center 5 minutes from my house, but the Dallas MO was my second opinion doc, and didn't want to put in a port for just four doses, and the MO here wanted me to get a port. It's no problem for my husband to drive me over and back, and I thought the port would be just one more chance to get an infection. Now if I don't have an easy time of it with chemo 2-4, I may regret it!

    Thanks for your thoughts and prayers

  • carmstr835
    carmstr835 Member Posts: 388
    edited June 2017

    Sure is good to hear how everyone is doing. I had my 2nd infusion today. I went much faster than the first. I was done 2 hours earlier, that was nice :). I didn't have very many side effects last time either. A bit of queezy feeling but went away when I stopped talking. Lol. No stomach issues except 1 day I had a few cramps but they went away and didn't come back. My tongue was numb and my mouth tingled I wasn't hungry at all for about a week when the bone pain came from the neulesta. That hurt bad. I eventually after all day suffering took a 600mg Motrin and Laid in my recliner with a vibrating heating pad anxious the pain subsided. The next day I took a motron at the first incling of pain I did take the Claritin starting the day after it activated for about a week. I took the ready tab version. Thus time my nurse said to take Claritin today, so I did.

    I will update you guys about these side effects. I fasted for 5 days before. I hope it helps. I expect the neulesta pain, however.

    I hope everyone gets through this with the least SE and we will move forward. Just a bump in the road in this game called life. Builds character :)

  • Rukoni
    Rukoni Member Posts: 21
    edited June 2017

    Hi, everyone! I had my first round of TC last Friday. I've been feeling a little cruddy since Day 3. Day 5 was a little better, but the bone pain kicked in last night. Even with claritin, it has been pretty tough -- I can't imagine what it would be like without the claritin. The heating pad (plus xanax and tylenol) seems to help. On the bright side, I have, finally, finished all of The Tudors and am looking for show recommendations. =) My brother has mentioned House of Cards.

    Also, has anyone experienced a sore throat as a side effect? I just want to make sure that I'm not coming down with something on top of everything else.

  • JuliaJazz
    JuliaJazz Member Posts: 246
    edited June 2017

    Rukoni, Thanks for the update.  I am learning from you.  Will ask for a Xanax scrip in case I need it. In what area(s) of your body was your bone pain? Was the massage really helpful or would a rather heating pad do about as well?

  • EmHaich52
    EmHaich52 Member Posts: 13
    edited June 2017
    Rukoni--I just finished round two a few days ago. I have had a mild intermittent sore throat through both rounds but it hasn't gotten worse or developed into anything serious.

    I wish everyone well this week!
  • Rukoni
    Rukoni Member Posts: 21
    edited June 2017

    JuliaJazz: The bone pain seemed to be more focused on my hips/lower-back, ribcage, and a little bit in my sternum. I think that the lower-back area was the worst. I didn't receive a massage, aside from rubbing my own back, but the heating pad seemed to help a little bit. Carmstr835 mentioned a vibrating heating pad, so I may look into one of those. Today, I'm feeling much better again. My throat is still sore and my head is a little achey, but it's manageable. This is good, because we have a beer festival that we're attending tomorrow. I am still planning to wear a mask, since there will be a lot of people.

    Is anyone planning to use Nioxin for hair regrowth? I've seen it mentioned on a board before. Right now, the scalp recovery sounds nice, because mine definitely itches.


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