April 2017 Chemo

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  • BallandCheerMomof4
    BallandCheerMomof4 Member Posts: 2
    edited May 2017

    Hi Metamorphosis,

    You and I definitely seem like we have lots in common (unfortunately.) I'm glad you posted.... this is only my second post here, but I visit 👀 Often! It def helps to see that others relate to same issues.

    As far as the appetite issues: I feel like I'm worse than a pregnant woman! I get "cravings" but then after a few bites decide, never mind. So you are not alone! I just eat when I want, what I want! The same goes for me on the timing. The first week or two after treatment I don't eat very well at all. I usually make up for it the last week before treatment.

    I've come to embrace my baldness for the most part. I'm definitely not going in public without a cap, but around the house I usually stay without anything on my head. I'm just thankful I still have eyebrows and eyelashes so far!

    I'm very curious.... if you don't mind! what was the explanation for doing your surgery before chemo? My Drs have all expressed to me that I needed to wait until after all 6 rounds of chemo before having surgery. I am also ER/ PR neg, HER2 pos. It is so scary having this mass still inside me, even though I know the chemo is shrinking it. I appreciate any info you may have.

    I meet with my plastic surgeon this week to discuss options. I'm a mixture of so many emotions about it. So ready to be done with the next 3 treatments so I can move on to the next phase of recovery! My surgery is supposed to be 3-5 weeks after my last treatment.... so around end of Aug/ beg of Sept.


  • tonyaberryman
    tonyaberryman Member Posts: 85
    edited May 2017

    Mimi- LOVE THE HAT!!!

  • Castigame
    Castigame Member Posts: 752
    edited May 2017

    first of all thank you ladies for letting me be here ( I started my chemo in late March)

    Well, weight loss continues even though I eat regular food a lot smaller portion of course. I temporarily gain 1 or 2 and then lose 2 or 3. No complain whatsoever. I am looking forward to tell BS about my progress in late Aug. Maybe regular exercise helping even though they are only walking and stretching. Maybe even scar massage counts.

    Still soul searching about my life. I know one thing for sure that my maker has a plan for me. Everytime I get depressed. I pray by saying "whatever you have plan for me I will follow"


    #2 DD Taxol on Tuesday. My 28 slots pill organizer has been populated for the next week. Determined to get some pain killer prescriptions. Thyroid consulation on Wed and we will be rescuing our beagle from a short exile at her cousins place.

    Can't wait to have my port deported!!!

  • Metamorphosis
    Metamorphosis Member Posts: 3
    edited May 2017

    Hi BallandCheerMom!!

    With my surgical oncologist, the subject of waiting til after chemo for surgery never came up and although I'm not sure, I can only assume it's because I did not have a well defined tumor, but instead a large field of DCIS. There was never any possibility for a lumpectomy, it had to be a mastectomy given how extensive the area of DCIS was (3.5 cm and with 'several foci').

    Maybe they are hoping to shrink the tumor enough to just do a lumpectomy? Have they said anything about radiation? My doctors have not.

    When is your next chemo? Mine is June 12.

    The only thing I noticed that's different with my most recent chemo is some pain in my fingertips now instead of just numbness and tingling.

  • DazzlingEagle
    DazzlingEagle Member Posts: 112
    edited May 2017

    Had my third chemo May 17th. Halfway done now! All my blood counts were still pretty good too.

    Well, I did not know it at the time but right after this third chemo, I started getting neutropenia. Instead of feeling a little bit better every day, I just felt fatigued and never got to my "good days."

    I now know that I should have at least called the chemo nurse and let her know I still wasn't feeling good.

    So what happened was I developed a fever and I felt the kind of sick where you just know you need help right away. I did not even bother calling the on-call oncologist. I went to the E.R., was admitted from there to the hospital for three days with neutropenic fever and the infection that overwhelmed me was severe sinusitis. My heart rate was unstable and my blood pressure was so low the machine couldn't measure it. They had to check it manually. My fever kept going down, then back up to 103. It was terrifying.

    Everything got stabilized and after just one neupogen shot, 24 hours later, my neutrophil level went up to a 6. They discharged me earlier today. Aside from the sinusitis, one of my biggest problems is something called odynophagia which just means pain when swallowing. Makes drinking and eating pretty painful. Hopefully it will resolve quickly. Even when you're sleeping, you wake up every time you swallow because it hurts so bad. It's hard to describe because it's not the same thing as a sore throat.

    Back when I had the third chemo, the blood work was all pretty good. The red blood cell count had been getting just a little below normal and that was going to get discussed at my next doctor's appointment. I don't think my medical oncologist expected the neutrophil numbers to drop from nearly normal to zero in ten days.


  • DazzlingEagle
    DazzlingEagle Member Posts: 112
    edited May 2017

    Metamorphosis: I had that pain in my fingertips too. Did your fingernails hurt too?

    The pain lasted about two - three weeks. Then no more fingertip pain.

    I didn't lose any fingernails but they're still pretty fragile. By the moon of each fingernail, there's a discoloration, not black but a dark pink. I've been using a clear nail strengthener and keeping the nails short.

  • Castigame
    Castigame Member Posts: 752
    edited May 2017

    I had darkening fingernails and toenails. 4DDAC folllwed by DD Taxol.

    Someone mentioned tea tree oil. I only apply whenever I remember but the oil does wonders. No pain when i want to open something w my nails. darkening slowed down even got lighter

  • DodgersGirl
    DodgersGirl Member Posts: 2,382
    edited May 2017

    DazzlingEagle- thank you for sharing your experience. Really sorry you had to go thru all of that. Your sharing is a great reminder to us all that what we are going thru is serious stuff. And that having white blood cell counts so low is nothing to take lightly. The bacteria on our own skin can make us very sick.

    I will pray for you. Speedy recovery and hope you don't have to endure that again

    Chemo is serious stuff and we are the warriors standing up to it. We rock! Cancer sucks

  • DodgersGirl
    DodgersGirl Member Posts: 2,382
    edited May 2017

    question for you guys -- now that we are in air conditioning season, are you noticing you get cold more often now that we are bald?

    I am sitting at work today, A/C running and noticed I was getting really chilled. (No wig or scarf, etc) just bald head. Took my temp. 96.6. Recalling all the stories growing up how you need a hat in winter to keep heat from escaping your body, I felt the tip of my head. COLD. So I put on a slouchy baseball like hat and do feel warmer.

    Anyone with similar stories?

  • Castigame
    Castigame Member Posts: 752
    edited May 2017

    yes since chemo started my head is freezing always. My heat tolerance level went up by at least 3 degrees and I live in FL. I still wear light sweater outside. Thinking and hoping no hot flashes for me!

  • Castigame
    Castigame Member Posts: 752
    edited May 2017

    waiting for #6 out of #8. DD Taxol #2!

    Spelled it out to Onco I could not sleep more than an hr at a time for the chemo week. She gave in and gave me a script for 30 qty low dose hydrocodone w tylenol. Huge relief. Pain killers w ton of epsom salt I am ready to take this beating.

    Steroid kicked in i ate all morning even before weigh in. Lost more weight cum weight loss since 03/21/17 is 18 pounds dang it wish I did not eat before weigh in it could have been 20!

    Steroid is powerful! WBC 24.48! Just w neulasta mine was at 9 at least. I think it is overkill but then again what do i know


    After this just two more beating or two more trips to principals office!

  • tonyaberryman
    tonyaberryman Member Posts: 85
    edited May 2017

    Freezing all the time!

  • DodgersGirl
    DodgersGirl Member Posts: 2,382
    edited May 2017

    tonyaberryman-- tomorrow is my 1st Taxol. You are scheduled for Thursday, right

  • tonyaberryman
    tonyaberryman Member Posts: 85
    edited May 2017

    Dodgersgirl- Yes, Thursday is my big first day with our friend Taxol. How are you holding up? I'm really hoping it's not as bad as AC. My BF is taking me, it's his first time...... I wonder how he'll be watching them access my port and taking care of me Thursday and Friday? We've been dating a year and then this happens, he must really, really love me, lol bless his heart.

  • DodgersGirl
    DodgersGirl Member Posts: 2,382
    edited May 2017

    tonyaberryman - anxious about tomorrow. Really hoping the bone pain others talk about are doable. Then there is the deal with these being weekly so you don't a week of feeling better between treatments. And lastly, my port didn't want to work last time. Hoping for better luck tomorrow.

    Nice of your BF to go with you.

    My hubby has been going with me from the start. We will be icing feet and hands for Taxol so hubby will be more involved with these next 12 sessions.

  • Annbee
    Annbee Member Posts: 208
    edited May 2017

    Dodgersgirl and Tonyaberrym,

    Good luck with Taxol tomorrow and Thursday. I have my first of four this Monday. Dreading it. I will be thinking of you both.

    My husband has been by my side every step of the way.

    It is nice your BF is going with you. It is where he wants to be.

    Rebamacfan, I live in Fl and the heat is killing me but freeze in the house.

    Let me know how it goes.

  • tonyaberryman
    tonyaberryman Member Posts: 85
    edited May 2017

    I'm anxious as well Dodersgirl , but let's remember we fought the red devil and won! We can do this, we are women and we are strong . Please let me know how you are doing later today, I'll check back for updates on you

  • DodgersGirl
    DodgersGirl Member Posts: 2,382
    edited May 2017

    Taxol 1 of 12 now behind me.

    Had trouble using my port fior a blood draw again. They had to stick my arm for blood work and give me the chemo port roto router drug which worked. But it looks like I will be sent to local hospital to have port examined to see if it is placed right still and to see if I need a new port. Gotta tell you this thought is really freaking me out. I had tears in my eyes at the chemo doctor visit today. 😞

    The chemo process itself was slightly quicker than AC and my pre-meds were different. This time I had Benadryl to combat any allergic reaction to Taxol and I had Pepcid along with a steroid and anti-nausea med.

    waiting now to see what side effects Taxol will bring my way and when they appear.

    Oh--and I did ice hands and feet during Taxol to try to stave off neuropathy and nail issues.

    No Neulasta with Taxol. MO said the white blood cells aren't hit like they are with AC. No nadir days either. So maybe I can be out and about more frequently??



  • tonyaberryman
    tonyaberryman Member Posts: 85
    edited May 2017

    Sorry about the port Dodgersgirl ,so glad to finally hear from you though . Hoping no SE for you , I'm fighting off an anxiety attack, lump in my throat. We can do this...... right

  • DodgersGirl
    DodgersGirl Member Posts: 2,382
    edited May 2017

    tonyaberryman-- you can do this!! My MO said because I didn't have any bone pain from Neulasta there is a good chance that I won't have bone pain with Taxol. They are more concerned with neuropathy. I started taking B12 (already taking B6) and l-glutamine to try to ward off neuropathy (along with icing). And said nausea shouldn't be an issue other than our brain making an association with chemo and nausea.

    I had to be "watched" for this infusion to make sure I was not allergic to Taxol

    My infusion started at 1120 am and was completed at 150 pm

    Good luck tomorrow!!

  • DodgersGirl
    DodgersGirl Member Posts: 2,382
    edited May 2017

    tonyaberryman and annbee -- one other thing I was told today is that most people start to see hair growing back during the 12 weeks of Taxol. Said it would be like fuzz but would continue to grow back

  • Annbee
    Annbee Member Posts: 208
    edited May 2017

    Dodgersgirl that is awful about your port. The port is to make things easier not harder. I am glad to hear the infusion went well. I am having dose dense Taxol starting Monday. I had my lab check up and I will be having the neulasta pod again. The MO (a different one than my regular one) said that Taxol is better than ac. She said it abou 10 times because I am stressed. She said I would have an anti nausea in my premed plus the Pepcid, Benadryl, streroid. She said it the bone and joint pain that can be in issue. She said my infusion would be 3 hours not including lab draw and premeds. You have given me hope.

    Tonya I have the same anxiety as you. Is yours tomorrow? I will be thinking of you.

    I think I may start some B 12 and b 6.

    Anne
  • Annbee
    Annbee Member Posts: 208
    edited May 2017

    hair growing back? That would be the best!!

  • tonyaberryman
    tonyaberryman Member Posts: 85
    edited May 2017

    Annabee, yes tomorrow. My BF is taking me to supper tonight to get my mind off of it

  • DodgersGirl
    DodgersGirl Member Posts: 2,382
    edited May 2017

    annbee- MO said it will be fuzzy and may not be all over the head at first but that I should start seeing growth!

    Ref the port, apparently it is fairly common to have troubles with blood draw in ports. Nearly 1/3 of people will have issues that require further investigation. One thing that can happen is the port could slip and not be in the right/best place as not every surgeon stitches it in place. MO acts like what I am going thru is something fairly common and they have things to do to correct issues. None will stop Taxol. If needed, they can administer in a vein in arm. I can't explain why all of this has me so worked up.... it just seems as if I know there is an issue with the placement of my port but I really don't want to have to have another port installed.

  • DodgersGirl
    DodgersGirl Member Posts: 2,382
    edited June 2017

    tonyaberryman- just finishing up my water for the day. I think I will be sloshing to bed later tonight at least I didn't feel queasy while drinking lots of water. That is a plus!

    Wanted to wish you well tomorrow. I hope to be at work tomorrow so didn't want to miss the well wishes

  • tonyaberryman
    tonyaberryman Member Posts: 85
    edited June 2017

    Thanks Dodgersgirl, I'll check in later

  • Annbee
    Annbee Member Posts: 208
    edited June 2017
    Dodgersgirl I totally understand. More appointments, needles and procedures. I think just the mention of a procedure gives me anxiety. I went to the mo for my labs between and infusions and she wanted to give me fluids but she said it was too late in the day. I was so relieved. The last thing I wanted was to be given fluids through an IV. I was already poked for labs. I don't use the port for these appointments.

    Tonyaberrym...good luck today and I am thinking of you.

    No queasiness with the water? That is good news.

    I hope everyone is doing well.

    Anne
  • tonyaberryman
    tonyaberryman Member Posts: 85
    edited June 2017

    Annbee- Thanks so much for thinking of me.

    Dodgersgirl - How are you doing today? I still don't feel like I've had a chemo treatment of Taxol, this is totally weird, lol

  • DodgersGirl
    DodgersGirl Member Posts: 2,382
    edited June 2017

    tonyaberryman- my hands are red and sore and 2 toes are sore. Where my fingers meet the hands, that area between my fingers is bright red like it was sunburned.

    Not taking any anti nausea meds today, don't think I need them. Not queasy at all. Slept well last night so other than the issues with fingers and toes, feel pretty good and hope I can have a great weekend which is way different from AC

    Hope you continue to feel well, too

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