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  • WenchLori
    WenchLori Member Posts: 1,558
    edited May 2017

    Awww, what fun for Chance. I've been thinking about putting a small pool on the back deck for the raccoons to play in. I'm not sure they'd use it but at least they'll have water.


  • Wren44
    Wren44 Member Posts: 8,585
    edited May 2017

    There is something in raccoon poop that is dangerous to dogs. I would put their water farther away from your house. They look really cute when they're small, but can get really huge and somewhat dangerous. DH put a shallow pan in our back yard because they were knocking over the bird bath in the front. It worked.

  • M0mmyof3
    M0mmyof3 Member Posts: 9,696
    edited May 2017

    Would love to get a small pool for Jackson. He'd just love it

  • WenchLori
    WenchLori Member Posts: 1,558
    edited May 2017

    We don't have any domestic pets, just raccoons, an occasional possum and stray feral cats. If I had my horses with me I'd shot every possum I see. Possums carry protozoal myeloencephalitis which causes EPM in horses. EPM is a neurological disease in horses exposed to possums. I don't turn my back on any wild animals. Theyare cute but they are wild animals and will stay wild animals. 🙂


  • JunieB
    JunieB Member Posts: 1,023
    edited May 2017

    Sensi - Chance looks very COOL in his personal pool. No, he is NOT spoiled. I prefer, "Appropriately Treated"

  • WenchLori
    WenchLori Member Posts: 1,558
    edited May 2017

    I noticed the raccoons washing their hands in my rain bucket last night after eating the scrap rib bones. I think it'd be pretty entertaining to watch them in a small pool.



  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited May 2017

    Hi, still working, MTw may have dropped her new thread here, But since I have it in my fingertips. I will post it and then go back and read. :)

    It's called "Anxiety". MTw has a solid credentialed history in counseling. Her topic box has lot's of info. She's gong to go on vacation soon, in case she doesn't post here before she goes.

    https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/83/topics/855477?page=1#idx_3


  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited May 2017

    Sensi, Love Chance's pool. I had Brit's for 20 years. In a younger time I had the pool and Brit's could find a puddle to lay in, in a des(s)ert. Always washing them. These two now, are not attracted to water. Both Bird dogs LOL. Terrible me. I haven't encouraged pool swimming. Shat's fell in a few times, and was able to get out just fine. I haven't limited them eitherregarding coming in. I have tried at different times to get them to come in, but they decline. The reality is that they would need more coaxing or thrown in b/c I had two others that I did just that.

    The throwing in story: Rascal came as a runaway. We were on the pool deck the first night. She ran right across the pool cover. Knew she hadn't a clue about water.

    Next day, Ds Steve, DH Greg, and I pool proofed her. She was only a 15 pounder. Too small to climb out, she had to be taught exits. Greg and I were stationed at each step area. Ds threw Rascal in on the opposite side. She of course panicked(expected). We each in turn called her to our respective steps, with each alternating thrown-in. With each throw in, she became more confident. We didn't stop till she confidently went to each step out. We repeated it the next day. She was good to go.

    Sadly, that same weekend a friends dog drowned. Same size as Rascal. They didn't know about pool proofing.

    We took both Rascal and JB on the same farm street runs, that Shat's and Dini run on now. JB & Rascal always jumped into the pool and swam in the shallow end after a run. They they'd sit on the step in the pool. Then off they would go in circles. They wouldn't get out till they were cooled down.

    OH shucks, Just realized, I have no choice , but to pool proof Dini and Shat's. They are getting older. Climbing out may become and issue. They both are showing their climbing age i.e. getting on the bed or sofa.

    I put a big sign on the frig.

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited May 2017

    Wenchi, that would be so fun to have pics with your raccoons. I had water and food for many years for birds, but the squirrels became an issue. What happened that was interesting, is that a family of crows(100 or so) "mapped" us as a migration stop over. They still come every year. I want to create something to encourage them, but life got in the way of that. But I haven't given up the thought and the crows have excellent memory. AND I have Donnie who can do anything. We talked of running a water line to make it easy to fill whatever I try to create. We just haven't gotten too it.

    Wren. your post was right after Wenchie's Interesting about Racoon's poop and dogs. Never heard of that. We tend to have Armadillo's and possum. Dini killed four Armadillo's last year. Haven't seen any this year. Any cautionaries on Armadillo's and Possum? There is a strip of vegetation that runs across the back of all the properties for maybe a mile. Cats travel this. The Armadillo's & possum too. My dog's are active at night, hunting varmit's i.e. wanting to go out multiple times after sleeping much of the day. and they tear off running like they were young ones towards the back. Dini came in the other night with a almost dime junk of skin missing on his forehead. Happy as anything.

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited May 2017

    Wenchie, your post was after Wren's. OMD, that's horrible about possums and horses. Sheesh, another new thing. How do folks that pasture their horses keep control on that. I lived in Summit County, Ohio for 21 years. Akron. Strangely enough, there were more sin that county per acre than in anywhere in the USA. You would think many other areas i.e. Kentucky, California, Florida. Racing areas. Anywhooses many other areas. LOL.

    You were the one that taught me the possum's eco function of eating Ticks. I gained a respect for them b/c of that. Hmmmmmmmmmm

    This bug that possums carry has no effect on human's? Interesting

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited May 2017

    The new life is working okay so far. What helps a lot is Nick has manners. He is thoughtful and considerate. He can talk in full sentences and carry on intelligent conversations. He also, respects separate spaces and time. He helps around the house when asked. In time he will do these things without being asked. What is truly strange is he has a slew of brothers and sisters. Some are in jail. He is a good kid raised in their terrible circumstances and so far he's okay. One of the rules: he tells no one where he is living and as of now he can't bring anyone over. He's very okay with that.

  • jo1955
    jo1955 Member Posts: 8,543
    edited May 2017

    sas-schatzi - I found you. Thanks for the link. Be back soon

  • magdalene51
    magdalene51 Member Posts: 2,214
    edited May 2017

    Sassy, sounds like you've got a great head start with Nick if he has manners, helps willingly, and recognizes boundaries. So pleased to hear that.

    Had my checkup with oral surgeon today, he says the gums are healing really well. He wants me back in 4 weeks to install the 2 lower posts. Then we went to the dentist, who re-lined the dentures. I've had them in for 9 hours now, and they're just a little uncomfortable. I tried to eat a hotdog, but still having trouble getting used to the different way of chewing. When you bite on something with your normal teeth, they are stable in your gums, but when you bite with dentures, there is some give as the gums provide a cushion for the plate. So when you bite down there's like a two-step process to it. I didn't realize that when I was eating the hotdog, and ended up cutting it up and eating it with a fork. It was later, when i was eating cookies, that I noticed the different way biting happens. Anyway, I'm going to go take them out now. My sis is coming tomorrow for the weekend, and we're going to have Chinese food tomorrow night. Wish me luck.

    Later.


  • WenchLori
    WenchLori Member Posts: 1,558
    edited May 2017

    Sassy, the only thing I can remember about armadillos is that they carry the leprosy gene. Please keep your dogs and cats safe from the little armored beasts.


  • M0mmyof3
    M0mmyof3 Member Posts: 9,696
    edited May 2017

    Got woke up at 2 a.m. Apparently there had been an accident involving a SUV and the fire hydrant across the street from me. Hubby and I were awakened by Jackson barking at the commotion of the vehicle being prepped to be towed away on a flatbed. The fire hydrant got knocked down but at least it wasn't damaged to the point of water spewing everywhere.

  • MTwoman
    MTwoman Member Posts: 2,704
    edited May 2017

    Hi Ladies! So sorry to go AWOL, was frantically prepping to go on a road trip vacation!

    Sensi, I ADORE Chance's pool! I can't show Angus or he'll want one. We have a stream close to the house, and take him to the river (less than a mile away) as often as we can, but those things wouldn't suffice is he saw what a lucky dog Chance is :p

    sassy, thanks for posting the link. I'm not sure that what's posted so far is rocket science, but hopefully others will post additional info and it will help some folks ;)

    I'll be radio silent for about 10 days, so peace and light to you all til next time!

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited May 2017

    Have fun Mtw."Road Trippppppppppp"(animal farm). What was the movie with Belushi on a college campus?

    Hellllllo Jo glad you found us. Come back often. What was the Goddess threads full name?

    Everyone Jo1955 and I met here in the early days of insomniacs. She created a really fun thread and then left for awhile. She recently returned.

    Mags, Yes, manners are at the top of the list for sure. I have a bias against folks that use a lot of "andum's and buttum's" or "like". "etc, etc" "you know". Nick has none of those quirks. He has asked Donnie to tell him if there is anything that I'm concerned about which came out when I was telling Donnie to talk to him about his room. Also, going to have to press Donnie to pick his clothes up more if I'm going to require it of Nick. My Aunt Shirley used to throw her kids clothes on the front lawn or have them sent how from school if they didn't have there PJ's under their pillow. Stories about her were shared and laughed about in the family lore. How I used it with Greg early after we got married was to say, I'd put his jeans in the trash the next time he left them on the floor. Only had to put them in the trash once. He became this neatness guru.

    Nick is working with Donnie. Donnie is a "do it right" type worker. He related that he made Nick redo something the other day b/c it was shoddily done. Nick's a quick learner.

    A HVAC person that does quality work is the key to a good HVAC system. I know that sounds strange, but when I was researching for a new system. Consistently, statements were made about manufactures not being so different from each other b/c of energy mandates. The installer of the system is the difference in how a system will work. Lot's of jobs for HVAC folks in Florida.

    We have been eating dinner at the dining table versus in front of the TV. I'm cooking more dinners. Hahaha, Nick's good for us too! His comment the first night was he couldn't remember the last time he had a home cooked meal.

    Mags the new world of dentures. Bummer. I hope this soon eases and it becomes an after thought. How long are you post-op?

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited May 2017

    Mommy, the neighbors from hell. Do you know a nice lawyer that can send them a letter?

    Wenchi, I did learn that when he killed the one on the pool deck. I first called the Public health dept. after google told me about the leprosy. I was concerned about rabies. They referred me to Wildlife Management. They said that the leprosy thing wasn't really true. Duh, it's in Wiki. Rabies is a rare occurrence and had only been reported in the north of Florida. If you hear of any thing else pass it on :)

  • MTwoman
    MTwoman Member Posts: 2,704
    edited May 2017

    sassy, My mother (in NC) had a raccoon pacing back and forth across her back yard fence during the day. She reported it as she has a smaller dog (and dog door :o ) The local animal control came out to get it as that is a sign they may have rabies. Raccoons are nocturnal and regular daytime activity or agitation should be reported.

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited May 2017

    Mtw that was my concern when the Armidillo was trying to get in the backdoor on the pool deck. I never heard of an Armidillo trying to get into a house. But all the people I called said not to worry. Weird. Plus, almost forgot. On the dogs run, which is a 0.8 mile, long stretch of road. A raccoon came running down the middle of the road at the dogs. Dini killed it. Not sure why Donnie didn't tell me about it. That was very bizarre behavior. Of course, I thought rabies. But by then the carcass wasn't available and it was beyond the quarantine time. At that point, I did nothing. Maybe I still should have reported it????????

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited May 2017

    Needless to say animals that meet up with Dini, don't fare well.

  • MTwoman
    MTwoman Member Posts: 2,704
    edited May 2017

    remind me not to mess around with Dini :p I have never heard of an Armadillo trying to get into someone's house! Holy cow, that kind of unusual behavior would make me think "rabies" as well. I would certainly be concerned about any of my precious fur-babies getting bitten by a rabid anything.

  • M0mmyof3
    M0mmyof3 Member Posts: 9,696
    edited May 2017

    Accident from early this morninghad nothing to do with the neighbors that are pains. The city Water Dept. came and took the busted hydrant away today and left behind and orange cone turned upside down in the hole where the hydrant had been.

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited May 2017

    Mommy Good, glad they weren't the awful neighbors. Nice to know you have a hydrant so close. You get a discount on your homeowners insurance b/c of that if you tell them. That was likely covered when you first took a homeowners insurance policy. I'm such a nerd............trivia stuff


  • WenchLori
    WenchLori Member Posts: 1,558
    edited May 2017

    I keep a 22 rifle at the front and back door just in case a crazy trash panda shows up. So far just fat healthy young ones come during the day. I think they are a young pair and they live in the hayloft of our barn. I'd have no problem shooting a crazy one.


  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited May 2017

    Mtw When the armadillo thing happened. The whole story ----------Dogs aggressively alerted at the front of the house. I checked the front --nothing. Then they went nuts alerting at the back of the house about ten minutes later. My thought was a bad guy. I opened the door to let the dogs out. I saw what appeared to be a tail---rat like. Then on the pool deck an awful scuffle....I called them off. Shat's came right away. Dini didn't. But came soon enough. Considering he has the kill instinct, he responded to the "call off" very rapidly. He had already killed it.

    Now all of it may seem bad . The killing and all. But it was late at night. Both dogs alerting in a very different manner than usual. The alerting was very worried/aggressive which was unusual. First at the front then at the back. The front may have not been related to the back, but there was enough time between alerting's that it could have been a break in. I was using my protectors when I opened that door.

    Even though I was terrified of Dini when he came to live here, I have learned he his my protector. He has learned love. It's very nice in both directions.

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited May 2017

    Wenchi, Trash panda--never heard that before. Hahaahaha. I wish I was gun smart, but can't be according to the laws I think b/c I have had counseling for PTSD related to all the cancers............Never seriously checked it out b/c I don't want someone saying I can't qualify. Bummed

  • M0mmyof3
    M0mmyof3 Member Posts: 9,696
    edited May 2017

    Hubby saw my neighbors from across the street (the party house) getting a delivery of party goods this morning. We were out on the front lawn doing some yard working and I stated in a very loud voice that if there is any noise after 9 p.m. the cops will be called. Not putting up losing sleep over their parties anymore. If I am labelled the "neighbor from Hades" so be it!


  • Lita57
    Lita57 Member Posts: 2,437
    edited May 2017

    Just my 2 cents, but it might not hurt to just go across the street, introduce yourself, and TELL THEM that you have FUCKING CANCER! If they want to party, but just bring it INSIDE the house after a certain time and close their DAMN windows so you don't have to hear it.

    I know it's not my place to advise, and I'm usually a pretty low-key, keep-my-nose-out-of-other-people's-biz type of person, but it couldn't hurt.

    I had to deal with "los Cubanos del infierno" (the Cuban neighbors from hell) some years back. They lived across the street & were the WORST. They had a little boy who - I kid you not - would run up and down the damn street at 2:00 in the morning while their parties raged on and on. And a lot of times these parties were on a WEEK NIGHT to boot! I called the cops on them all the time. Even earplugs wouldn't shut their noise out.

    These people you're dealing with may be more reasonable. Try talking to them and see what happens. If they aren't then call the cops.

    Do you have a neighborhood association? They can help. Do the neighbors own the house? If not, do a title search and get a hold of the landlord.

    What finally got the "Cubanos" out was the combined action of all us neighbors (we weren't the only ones who couldn't sleep...). We contacted the landlords and had the POLICE contact them, too. Where I live, if the cops get contacted too many times, they will $$ site the landlords and push for eviction because of too many disturbing the peace violations. And that's exactly what happened the "Cubanos" got evicted.

    Good Luck!

  • M0mmyof3
    M0mmyof3 Member Posts: 9,696
    edited May 2017

    We have a neighborhood association and we do try to get stuff like this squashed, but it doesn't matter to the repeat offenders. The new neighbors don't give a flip about being polite and keeping the noise down or that someone in the neighborhood have a serious illness. They are young, very rude and act like they own the block and can do whatever they want without facing the consequencesof disturbing the peace just because they own a home my street. It's bad enough that they keep me and my hubby from sleeping, but they also keep my dog awake and he gets really grumpy.


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