Mona Lisa Touch Wed. Hope fixes Incontinence/uncomfortable sex!

Hi Macbo4

I would be forever grateful if you let us know how things turn out once you've had the procedure. I am considering doing it and would appreciate some feedback.

thank you!

Hi ladies, so glad I found this thread. Just had my first Mona Lisa touch treatment ( both vaginal and vulva) yesterday. Felt like I had a slight burning sensation externally afterwardsbut dr prepared me for that. Did not even need a Tylenol but I did put Vaseline to area like she suggested so it wouldn't burn when I peed. Was a little surprised at the blood tinged watery discharge however. After being so dry for so long I had to go out and purchase panty liners! As I researched it, I discovered this is very normal and should pass in few days. No change in activity for me but dr says no sex for 5 days. That's kinda funny because it's been way longer than that because of the vaginal atrophy caused by lack of estrogen! She also suggested coconut oil for lubrication for later. Specifically, to make little balls out of it and put in fridge, inserting one into vagina prior to intercourse. Hope this helps.

hi. I've had all three, the last one being almost two months ago now. I would say there was a marked improvement, although not perfect. One more may help. In the meantime I still use a drop of lidocaine on one raw spot, and coconut oil as lubricant. I can say that sex IS pleasurable again after Mona Lisa...and it had not been for years.

Good luck ladies

Mac, hardly worth the effort is something I totally understand. I truly hope you get some relief and find some level of comfort. I do recommend lidocaine...not tooo much, just a drop, or you lose all sensation and can't orgasm anyway. And I can't say enough about coconut oil. It's not messy, not oily on the sheets, no smell or taste (well, maybe slightly coconutty) and very lube-e.

Hope it works out for ya.

it's such a huge loss to our bodies and to our lives. And not too many people talk about it. Sex will NEVER be the same..not even close. And I was one who thoroughly enjoyed it, and had planned on enjoying it frequently throughout my older years. I mourn it constantly, but I also have to wrap my head around the new 'normal' I now have. Some people lose their legs, their sight, their hearing, thier ability to speak, their minds, etc..

I've lost all of my womanness. No breasts, no ovaries, no moisture, no libido..... I guess it could be worse. We all have our demons. Doesn't make it any less sad though.

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How do you use the coconut oil ladies? I cant think of how to do it other than injecting it? How do u make little balls? I would prefer to use coconut oil rather than replens or vit e suppositories. Saving my money for Mona Lisa!

My MO has prescribed Vagifem which is estradiol (estrogen) that is inserted as a little pill in the vagina, even though I had ER+ BC. I used it only twice a week while I was taking anastrozole to suppress estrogen. Other women are allowed to use e-strings. The current thinking, as I understand it, is that it's ok to elevate estrogen levels for a very short time as long as they fall again right away. The Vagifem doesn't have much uptake because it blasts the system with a burst of estrogen, which fades away after 24 hours. Part of the reasoning is that what ultimately allows metastatic disease is when ER+ cancer cells mutate and lose their estrogen receptivity. This is also the reason whey hormone therapy is now limited to 5 years. The cancer growth is then much harder to control. So little bursts of estrogen encourage possible cancer mets to stay ER+, then when the estrogen levels fall to near zero, they die. On the down side, you end up being on an estrogen roller coaster and going through hormone ups and downs every week as the levels rise and fall. On the up side, you have a couple of days a week when sex is going to be much easier and less painful. Also, those are good days to do weight bearing exercises and make sure you're taking your D3 and calcium to help your bones. The estrogen+exercise increases how much new bone you're able to lay down.

The other thing that has helped tremendously is that I purchased a medical grade vaginal dilator set. It's a set of hard plastic penis shaped inserters from tiny to very large. You're supposed to start by inserting the smallest one that fits comfortably and work your way up from there to gently combat atrophy. I use plenty of coconut oil and do this on the day after I use Vagifem. I find that it takes about 24-48 hours after using the Vagifem to be sexually functional, so I use the dilators and a vibrator while I have the house to myself during the day. Hope this helps!