April 2017 Chemo

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  • Momojcbc
    Momojcbc Member Posts: 94
    edited May 2017

    Notanisland- It comes and goes for me. I am on anti anxiety, it really does help. I was on it prior to all this though. I was really anxious prior to starting as well, and after the first one I did have some relief. Now I think my anxiety is finding my new normal. How did it go telling your daughter?

    Staceyb- That sounds similar to the reaction I had from the steroids? I called the doc and they lowered my dose. I assume you are already past that point though? I just read Dodgers girl post, I had no idea it could be yet another Cytoxan side effect. I hope you find some relief.

    Pambc- Welcome, I am excited to hear how the cold caps go, you are brave! I have not iced my hands or feet. I am sure someone will have some advice.

  • Annbee
    Annbee Member Posts: 208
    edited May 2017
    Good morning! I think of all you a lot hoping everyone is doing well.

    I am having a hard time to focus on responding to everyone. Chemo brain??

    How is everyone with the fatigue? This is my worst SE. I am usually a tired person. I have had my second AC last Monday. I stopped the Claritin yesterday. I do have some bone pain today.

  • DodgersGirl
    DodgersGirl Member Posts: 2,382
    edited May 2017

    Annbee- you mention fatigue. Yep, I have that side effect for sure. I have never taken so many short naps during the day. Then at nighttime, struggle to sleep past 230 am which just adds to bring tired.

    I did sleep almost to 5 am this morning and hoping to do same tomorrow morning. But Wednesday is AC #3 so that cycle will just start over

    I was cooking breakfast yesterday (I make an egg, sausage, cheese, salsa 13x9 casserole that I cut into squares to reheat during the week for a quick protein breakfast) and had to sit down in the middle of the process as I just felt fatigued. Probably means I need to take longer walks each day to keep stamina up?

    Hope you are doing ok for the most part day to day

  • Annbee
    Annbee Member Posts: 208
    edited May 2017

    Dodgersgirl- exactly the little things can make me tired. Never used too. I gave the house a deep spring cleaning on Friday and ended up with a 3 hour nap. Sometimes like you said I have to sit down while doing something simple. I will try more exercise and ask my MO. My son graduates college on Saturday and I hope I make through the day. Thank you.

  • tonyaberryman
    tonyaberryman Member Posts: 85
    edited May 2017

    Hello Ladies,

    Just got home from my 3rd chemo, actually had my Mama pull through Mickey D's for a bite to eat . What's weird about that you ask......... I don't eat fast food and haven't since I was a teenager, but within the last weeks I've craved it and my Doctor said I could eat anything I wanted.

    Dodgersgirl: If I remember correctly, your 3rd dose is Wednesday ( we are on the same regimen ). I felt both meds before I even finished, I've had almost a full gallon of water today and am trying to keep " flushing out" both meds. I've had a real hard time sleeping since I was diagnosed , so sleeping during the day is out. They finally gave me something to help, but only sleep 6 hours a night.... better than nothing. Sucked on ice during the "devils dose" hoping that works, thanks for the tip. The anti nauseous medicine they give in the stomach , didn't hurt today I was thankful. On the other hand, when "the nurse" who's never touched me before, when to access my port and I wanted to slap her, lol. One of the other nurses said she probably didn't acess it from a good angle. She's will never touch me again.

    Praying for all of you ladies that are going through this and hoping your next treatment is easier than the last

  • DodgersGirl
    DodgersGirl Member Posts: 2,382
    edited May 2017

    tonyaberryman - best wishes for today and the next few days that SE are tolerable.

    You are correct, my AC #4 is Wednesday

    I smiled at your McDonalds comment because in the Saturday after AC#2, all I wanted was a burger and so I had a thick burger from Hardee's (Carl's Jr) I scarfed it down while my family snickered. But I was having trouble finding anything that sounded good to eat til that burger!

  • Lizo_biker
    Lizo_biker Member Posts: 10
    edited May 2017

    Hi, tonyaberryman-

    I'd be delighted to stay in touch, feel free to email me at lizo@jps.net, or pm me on messenger if you're on facebook. I'm not exactly a veteran at this myself, but unfortunately i'm getting more and more experienced by the day, and always happy to help a fellow BC traveller...


  • tonyaberryman
    tonyaberryman Member Posts: 85
    edited May 2017

    Thank you so much, Lizobiker

  • tonyaberryman
    tonyaberryman Member Posts: 85
    edited May 2017

    Having regrets eating Mickey D's now, feeling real bad........SE are kicking in, this too shall pass

  • DodgersGirl
    DodgersGirl Member Posts: 2,382
    edited May 2017

    tonyaberryman- sorry to hear your SE are kicking in. Hoping they are short lived.

  • Pambc010417
    Pambc010417 Member Posts: 102
    edited May 2017

    DodgersGirl

    Thank you for the tip on icing the hands and feet. I am on Taxotere and cytoxan, 4 treatments every 21 days.

    I have been told the Taxotere may cause the neuropathy. My first treatment was April 26 and my toes and fingers are numb now at the tips. I actually had trouble walking 2 days ago so I really want to find some ways to help with this before my next treatment on May 16. I put a ziplock bag of ice in the palms of my hands and wrapped my fingers around the ice bag. I also had my feet laying on a Ziploc bag full of ice. Apparently, that was not cold enough because I am suffering from neuropathy. One oncologist told me that the hands would have to be frozen to prevent the chemo from going there just like cold caps on the head. He said it would frostbite my hands if I had it that cold, because I have no hair on my hands, unlike my scalp, to protect the skin. He did not feel ice treatment will help but I want to try something. I'm also asking if I can go to physical therapy in between treatments to try to get the feeling back into my hands and feet. Neuropathy can be a permanent condition if not treated.

    I'm also doing the Penguin cold caps, is anyone else trying cold caps

  • DodgersGirl
    DodgersGirl Member Posts: 2,382
    edited May 2017

    Pambc01042017 - take a look at this pdf from Sloan Kettering: https://www.mskcc.org/cancer-care/patient-education/nail-cooling-during-treatment-taxane-based-chemotherapy

    also many people on these forums talk about taking B-6 and l-glutamine to fight against neuropothy

  • Limonia
    Limonia Member Posts: 53
    edited May 2017

    Interested in hearing more from those taking B or other vitamins re: tx. I'm still waiting for the starting date (delayed bc my post surgery is still healing). DodgersGirl - sorry to hear about the fatigue! But your breakfasts sound amazing, thanks for the idea for my own prep :-).

  • DodgersGirl
    DodgersGirl Member Posts: 2,382
    edited May 2017

    Limonia - I take Vit C, Vit B-6, Vit D, as well as various OTC anti-oxidants, and such

  • cse70
    cse70 Member Posts: 43
    edited May 2017

    I am new to this group. I had thought I would be in the May 2017 group but they got my tx started earlier (yay?). I had my first carbo/taxotere on 4/25. This is the first day I felt well enough to post. Lost 8 lbs, WBC dropped to 1.5 but HELL WEEK IS OVER! This is so different from my treatment 12 years ago! But, as my nurse said, you are 12 years older and your system is quicker to detect toxic chemicals. Good luck to all of you!


  • DodgersGirl
    DodgersGirl Member Posts: 2,382
    edited May 2017

    cse70 - enjoy the days where you feel better! When is your next treatment?

    I am headed to AC # 3 in a few

    Momojcbc - wishing you great results on the PET. It was yesterday, right? Chemo brain so not sure

  • Momojcbc
    Momojcbc Member Posts: 94
    edited May 2017

    Cse- Welcome!


    My PET/CT scan was yesterday. The doc actually called me last night with the results.

    She said there is a spot behind my chest that is large and very concerning. I want to say she referred to it as Lymph node but now I am not sure.
    A small spot on my lung lit up.
    And of course the lymph nodes we already knew about in my arm pit.

    She then said she is taking this to a board of doctors to discuss. They may want to biopsy it. I am not sure if she meant the lung piece or the thing in my chest.

    I see my surgeon today, as he wanted to ultrasound my original mass to see if it has shrunk any. And then I see the MO on Monday when I am sure we can discuss this in further detail.

  • Annbee
    Annbee Member Posts: 208
    edited May 2017
    Momojcbc- Hang in there. Lots of postive thoughts and prayers heading your way.
    Dodgersgirl - I hope your 3rd treatment went well. I have my 3rd in Monday.
    Cse70 - I am sorry you are having a rough time. Sending hugs.
  • StaceyB
    StaceyB Member Posts: 32
    edited May 2017

    Momojcbc - hope you get a little more clarity after your doctors appointments today. Sending positive thoughts your way.

  • DodgersGirl
    DodgersGirl Member Posts: 2,382
    edited May 2017

    momojcbc - ditto as to what Annbee and StaceyB wrote. Prayers being sent up for you. And will keep you in thoughts and prayers.

  • Momojcbc
    Momojcbc Member Posts: 94
    edited May 2017

    Thanks Ladies- The SO measured my original tumor and after two rounds of AC it has no changed in size at all. He also confirmed that that if the enlarged nodes they found behind my chest wall are cancer (which they think they are based of their activity on the PET scan) then I would be stage 4.

    He is going to talk with the MO and she is meeting with her board tomorrow, then I see her Monday.

  • utjoy
    utjoy Member Posts: 56
    edited May 2017

    Momojcbc...I don't know what to say. I will be praying fervently for you, though.

  • doryp
    doryp Member Posts: 2
    edited May 2017

    notanisland - Hi, I am doryp and mainly follow the FB page but look back here from time to time.  I noted that you mentioned buspirone and wanted to encourage you to use it as needed.  I have taken it for many years on and off for anxiety.  I do not take it every day - only as needed - sometimes not for weeks and others multiple days in a row.  My internist says it is not addicting.  I do not have any side effects from it.  Basically, it just takes the edge off for me so I can enjoy my day on those when I need it  :)

  • msrobin58
    msrobin58 Member Posts: 134
    edited May 2017

    Hello to you April start date ladies, I've peeked in from time to time, but chatter mostly on the May group since i just had my first AC yesterday. I'm enjoying this honeymoon day where I feel almost normal, knowing that the SE usually come out over the next few days. Just a quick question as I try to avoid the mouth sores. Is Biotene mouth spray thought to be just as effective as baking soda and water rinse? Thanks for your input.

  • DazzlingEagle
    DazzlingEagle Member Posts: 112
    edited May 2017

    I caught up on all the posts. We are going through a lot. Momojcbc, I know your doctors will have a plan to treat whatever they find. Hang in there. I guess it never stops getting crazier, does it? I'm learning more and more only others going through this really understand. Family and friends just have no concept of how hard this is. I know they try though.

    I had my second chemo last week on Wednesday April 26. Just mostly slept on days three and four. Had a very bad problem with acid reflux that over the counter pepcid ac wasn't helping. I switched to prilosec which was a prescription from the doctor but I guess you can get it over the counter too, and it gave me such severe diarheaa so I don't think I'll take it again. I was so happy I had managed my diarheae this round and then one dose of prilosce and bam. So anyway. I think there's one other med. to try.

    Also developed shingles from my face to the bottom of my foot which meant I can only hobble instead of walking. Just putting any weight on the shingle foot is excruciating. That's been the hardest thing. I have a couple of prescription meds for that, but you have to take them with food and I can't eat right now because of the acid reflux and diarhea so hopefully tomorrow I can start those. The shingles are painful. The oncology nurse was insistent I had to go in the next day to see the medical oncologist when I told her about my rash and I'm glad I did. Who knew, shingles. I feel a lot better just knowing what it is.

    I would be happy at this point to be able to have a swallow of water! Maybe in a couple more hours. But even with all that, I still feel pretty okay. And I'm glad the second chemo is over.

  • Annbee
    Annbee Member Posts: 208
    edited May 2017
    Msrobin58. I use the Biotene mouthwash with mint. I tried the baking soda/saltwater and I just can't do that. Yucky to me. I have had 2 Ac treatments and no mouth sores. I also bought the toothpaste. I don't use it all time. I like my old brand.
    Dazzlingeag- I am so sorry about the shingles. Sending hugs.
    I agree with others understand how hard this is.

  • DodgersGirl
    DodgersGirl Member Posts: 2,382
    edited May 2017

    msrobin58 - I have only done the water, baking soda, and salt rinse after every meal so I can't give you a comparison

    I do eat ice during Red Devil to hopefully avoid mouth sores.

    So far, I haven't gotten any mouth sores.

    I think I had the start of thrush in my mouth after AC#1 but the water, baking soda, salt cleared that up right away

    Anything can change as chemo SE can be cumulative but so far, it is working for me

  • DodgersGirl
    DodgersGirl Member Posts: 2,382
    edited May 2017

    dazzlingeagle- sorry to hear of shingle rash again. I worry about that while getting chemo.

    I tried to get the vaccine for shingles but after getting insurance approval, my PCP'soffice dropped the ball and it was then too close to chemo to get the shot.

    If I could make it go away for you, I would. Know you are in my prayers

  • DodgersGirl
    DodgersGirl Member Posts: 2,382
    edited May 2017

    tonyaberryman - how are you doing with SE after AC #4? Are they getting better yet

  • utjoy
    utjoy Member Posts: 56
    edited May 2017

    DazzlingEagle...I have recurring shingles on my right buttock/lower back and broke out badly with the 1st AC, I too had my 2nd on the wed, my wbc went down to 1.4 after the 1st one and they put me on 1k mg valtrex 3 times a day...I was really wiped out. Now I'm on a 500 mg once a day...so scary. They have determined that I now need an IVIg infusion because I have Hypogammaglobulinemia, possibly caused from pesticide poisoning 26 years ago. What a process this is! I did not have a break out this time, thankfully...

    I am having mouth issues...I'm using the Magic Mouthwash some and biotene...not much for relief...think I'll try the simple baking soda and salt! Heck...maybe tequila would kill it? Just kidding...lol.

    I dare to look at posts for the next step, Taxol, once in awhile...it's all so very intimidating. My hair...oh boy...! Not sure if I should shave it or let the rest fall out as it will, there's very little left...I really don't want the short nubbies! Right now, what's left is about an inch long...cute. Not!

    Blessings to all!

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