April 2017 Chemo

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  • DazzlingEagle
    DazzlingEagle Member Posts: 112
    edited April 2017

    parakeets rule: Thank you for your post. I hope it's something like that. The medical oncologist told me during my early appointments that he expects me to respond very well to treatment and he wants it cured and I don't think he would say that lightly. And he had access to the lab biopsy report and the lab addendum biopsy report at that time. So we'll see.

  • Annbee
    Annbee Member Posts: 208
    edited April 2017

    Hi everyone,

    This second round has been much much better than the first. Just fatigue which I think comes from some of these medicines. I dI'd get a sore throat both times. I use biotene with mint to rinse my mouth. I don't like the baking soda, salt water mix. I do have ice chips when getting the red chemo drug.

    Stay positive DazzLing Eagle that is great chemo is working.

    I always freak out when reading reports. Try not to read them now.

    I have to get a bone scan next week somewhere along the line before surgery and now it never happened. I wil, worry all week. Scan anxiety.


    Hope everyone has a good evening. I care about all of you


  • Limonia
    Limonia Member Posts: 53
    edited April 2017

    Annbee - I hear you - scan anxiety is reallllllyyyyy something. Going forward I will try to remember that just because it takes a tuen during the scan doesn;t mean anything until we have the results. My bone scan took almost 40 minutes more than the average scan. I freaked out all week. Ended up tech was trying to be very thorough as there were some areas that were harder to see. Sending light to all you lovely ladies (and gentlemen).

  • stephilosphy00
    stephilosphy00 Member Posts: 386
    edited April 2017

    Hi all, I am one month out from my last chemo and still have bone and muscle soreness all over which doesn't seem getting better or worse. This week I start having the same kind of dizziness I had when I was on AC chemo and also a sharp pain come and go at one spot of my head...I know they are probably all caused by chemo and the lupron I am one. But I am still very worried I have some kind of mets.

    Thank you for reading my post!

  • Annbee
    Annbee Member Posts: 208
    edited April 2017

    limonia -thank you for your positive thoughts. Scans are scary and I try to read the the tech's face and then leave worried. My friend does my mammo's and she spoiled me. This was supposed to be done in feb but never happened.


    Stephilosphy - try not to worry. I think we all start thinking when we feel a pain. Maybe call your MO tomorrow. Sending hugs
  • BSchutt
    BSchutt Member Posts: 23
    edited April 2017

    Dodgersgirl, I haven't used the ice chips but I did have some sore throat issues for a couple of days after treatment and went away. But it is much worse now and hasn't gone away. I'm going to ask for ice chips next week, thank you! My nose has been running, as well, but now I get nose bleeds a few times a day. I didn't really get bad mouth sores but just some weird feeling like having scalded my gums/tongue. My WBC was 2.37(L) and the Absolute Neutrophils were 1.15(L) which needed to be 1.5 or higher for chemo.

    I haven't done a bone scan and am wondering if I need one. Lots of questions for the oncologist when I see him now in two weeks. Stephilosph, that is great you finished chemo but sorry to hear you are still experiencing bone and muscle pain. Your surgery is coming up I see. I'm very anxious to get done with chemo and onto surgery. Be well today, ladies, sending lots of HUGS!

    Barbara

  • Momojcbc
    Momojcbc Member Posts: 94
    edited April 2017

    Hi Ladies-Happy Friday! I hope everyone has a SE free weekend if not the best one they can have with all this. ❤

    Just trying to catch up! My doc ordered the PET and the insurance approved. So, I am scheduled for that on Tuesday. I know some of you noticed your tumor shrinking. I am just curious as to when you noticed? I am down two treatments and mine seems the same? Also, I am getting my vit D rechecked to see if I ever came back up after the low reading and supplements.

    Kadrner- I am liking the scarf thing as well, they are so light and nice feeling on my bald head. I started pinning ideas on how to tie on pinterest. So many fun ideas.

    https://www.pinterest.com/lubmyboys/wraps/

    Fanfaraway- I am so sorry about your port. That does not sound fun. They had to stick me three times last time because my is so low it moves.

    Joyal- The love, letters, messages, gifts, calls warm my heart so much to. Its so nice to know we have so much support.

    Chemo brain here too, I have a terrible time focusing when I try to work. And I feel like I keep getting my boys' game days mixed up, good think my husband is on top of it.

    Barbara- I had a terrible sore throat last round. This time I still feel like I have flem in my chest. I think that could all be related to the mucositis as it causes thicker salivia? Idk

    https://www.oncolink.org/support/side-effects/mucositis/mucositis-the-basics

    Dazzlingegg- I am sorry that sounds scary, I don't have any skin effected but I have lymph in my arm pit they know has cancer and Its hard not to think about where else it could be.

    Parakeets- Hi there! Welcome!

    Dodgerrgirl- my nose is an annoying dripping faucet.

    Limonia- Do you have your results from your scan?

    Steph- I have had some headaches too, have you talked to the doc? That's doesn't sound fun.

  • DodgersGirl
    DodgersGirl Member Posts: 2,382
    edited April 2017

    momojcbc- I noticed a shrinking of tumor after my 2nd AC treatment. Even RO had a hard time feeling one of the masses that is at a lymph node

    Hoping the tumor continues to feel smaller as the weeks pass by.

    Best wishes for the PET scan. I had mine the end of March. The test takes a while but isn't difficult to do.

    Hope you have a great werkend

  • tonyaberryman
    tonyaberryman Member Posts: 85
    edited April 2017

    Lizo_biker, you and I are on the same page! I started 4/3 and would really like to keep in touch.....I'm DX 3/20/2017, IDC, Left, 5cm, Stage IIB, Grade 3, AC+T (TAXOL) .

  • tonyaberryman
    tonyaberryman Member Posts: 85
    edited April 2017

    I'm new to the group and I'm pretty much on the same page as all of you. Started chemo 4/3, taking the devil's dose (name fits) for the first (4) treatments and it's rough......the mouth sores, the OMG feeling......dying on day 2, 3, 4.............. Why suck on ice chips......why not just drink water? Remember, I'm new here and have no idea what all these abbrev's. are ...............help.

  • DodgersGirl
    DodgersGirl Member Posts: 2,382
    edited April 2017

    tonyaberryman- welcome to our group.

    I have had 2 AC cycles with the next on Wednesday. My chemo nurses bring me ice during the red devil administration because studies show the cooling of an area helps with side effects so eating ice during that treatment helps reduce chances of mouth sores just a icing hands and feet during Taxol may help reduce chances of neuropathy. Some chemo centers even have cold cap machines to place on your head to help stave off hair loss.

    You asked about drinking water instead of ice chips. Water may not be cold enough to be helpful.

    Have you found things that help you with mouth sores?

  • tonyaberryman
    tonyaberryman Member Posts: 85
    edited April 2017

    Good to know and thank you for letting me know. No, the mouth sores just are forming every day, but I'm sure gonna try ice chips. My sister shaved my head almost two weeks ago because it was just time, it was coming g out in strands and I just couldn't take it anymore ...... she shaved my head again last night, this time without a guard. I'm almost completely bald and am trying to embrace it, I wear hats a LOT, but my boyfriend and his daughter will NOT allow me to wear them, around them. They rub my head and tell me how beautiful I am without hair, they are so sweet to me. I have my 3rd AC on Monday, not looking forward to it, but am...... ya know what I mean?

  • Limonia
    Limonia Member Posts: 53
    edited April 2017

    Hello Momojcbc and Peeps!

    The bone scan and CT scan came back clear for cancer (although they found other stuff that I need to look at after all of this). I had surgery Mar 23, and am 5 weeks post op. BC the left sentinel was positive (and multiple tumors on the boobies before surgery), they're recommending full tx including chemo (Fec D), radiation and hormone therapy. Because there has been a major healing issue post surgery (and TE - OMG paiinnnnnful), the chemo is on hold for several weeks until the incision site heals. Plus cord in arm because 23 nodes removed. It is very discouraging. However I decided to make a CHEMO COUNTDOWN list, which aside from the regular stuff need to do (pick up mouthwash, go to dentist, try wigs, book all dr appts, etc), include things like:


    1. IKEA!!! (because ikea, there's got to be stuff I need, like smoked salmon and plants and stuff)

    2. COSTCO!

    3. Mani ped

    4. Drinkees - will take opportunities between pain killers (stopped 2 weeks ago) and upcoming chemo :-)

    5. Joining local supports so it will be set up for days I feel okay in chemo (assuming there will be a couple of days) - such as Gilda's club & Wellspring (they have relaxation classes, support groups, yoga, etc).


    ANYTHING ELSE you wonderful lovelies might suggest to help lift the spirits and put one in a good place before the first chemo?


    Limonia,

  • Limonia
    Limonia Member Posts: 53
    edited April 2017

    And thank you for this site: https://www.pinterest.com/lubmyboys/wraps/

    I've been finding the head covers and wraps and turbans quite depressing, and this provides some modern, fun options and considerations...

  • utjoy
    utjoy Member Posts: 56
    edited April 2017

    I'm pretty 'loopy' today...dang it! Had 2nd AC on Wednesday...felt great until last evening...my chest and neck became very 'flushed', puffy all over feeling, especially face and legs...ugh. I don't take anything except the Claritan and steroids for the 2nd day only (total of 4), I've been on blood pressure pills for 10 yrs and am now on potassium since it's low. My wbc was good to go, got over the shingles, now they want to do an infusion to boost my immune system, IVIg.

    Sounds like I'm having issues a little different from everyone else...but, I do have mouth & nose sores (ask for the Magic Mouthwash!) and losing hair...oh...and the headache, random pains, bone/stomach/legs...and my eyesight is weird! Kinda dizzy.

    Oh well, happy Saturday everyone!


  • notanisland
    notanisland Member Posts: 142
    edited April 2017

    Hi whirlwind, I've been scrolling through your posts because I noticed that our treatment plans are almost identical (despite the fact that I am almost 25 years your senior!). I too will have neo adjuvant chemo, probably starting in May. The only difference is that I will have 4 treatments of A/C over 8 weeks, 1 every other week. I read your most recent post (written after your first chemo treatment) and I'm so sorry that you suffered so badly with nausea. I hope the additional 3 treatments of A/C went better. If you have any advice on what to do to improve the days after, I would appreciate it. I know that we each react differently, but I find myself wanting to be armed and knowing what to expect. Also, since I will be seeing my MO's Nurse Practitioner on 5/5 for chemo counseling, I want to be able to address all concerns.

    Now that it's already end April, you're probably done with A/C and on to Taxol, once a week for 12 weeks. Feeling any better? I hope so.

    My daughter is grown and on her own and my husband is still working, but I work from home so I am able to spend a lot of time worrying about what's to come. I am terrified, but I know this is how I must fight the dreaded BC and I want to kick butt!

    Hope you are doing well. Lots of Hugs and Thanks

    P.S. A Belated Happy 40th birthday! I was DX'd less than 2 months before my 65th, when I will be in the midst of A/C treatment.

  • DodgersGirl
    DodgersGirl Member Posts: 2,382
    edited April 2017

    Nora island - reading your post took me back to March when I was days away from starting chemo. I had read all the chemo tips on this site and followed as many as necessary. My biggest concern was hit to grocery shop.

    I am on AC every 2 weeks for 4 cycles followed by 12 weeks of Taxol.

    I found that I could eat anything I wanted so I didn't really have to shop for food for me, then food for hubby. The exception to this for me was days 3 and 4 after chemo. Typically I try to eat every 3 hours and found soup and hot ginger tea we're most comforting.

    I feel queasy starting on the 3rd day after chemo thru the 6th day. Eating every 3 hours does help calm my queasiness.

    I think the Zofran I take for a few days after chemo gives me a headache.

    Each of us has different side effects. I haven't had any mouth sores (hope those stay away). I eat ice during the red devil administration. I also rinse with water, salt, and baking soda after eating anything for 5 days after chemo.

    I get that Neulasta onPro after chemo. It dispenses 27 hours after chemo. I take a Tylenol 30 mins before it dispenses and I take Claritin the day before chemo and the next 5 days after and so far I have not had any bone pain from Neulasta

    Probably the most disruptive side I effect I still have is the lack of ability to sleep all night. I work from home and my employer told me I could work whenever I felt like it so it isn't rare to start work at 3 am. And naps are my friend. Chemo nurse said to take melatonin. I bought a jar but haven't taken any yet

    For me, chemo is on Wednesday. I am fine Wednesday and Thursday because of pre-Meds during chemo. Friday I start getting a headache and can't stand to have my eyes open. Saturday and Sunday I am the same with nausea added in. Monday I start feeling better. And then feel pretty good thru the next chemo.

    My 3rd AC will be this Wednesday. Should be done with AC in May and start Taxol in June

    I wish you limited to no side effects with your AC




  • whirlwind
    whirlwind Member Posts: 20
    edited April 2017

    notanisland,

    Hello, and thanks for the Birthday wishes and hugs!!

    Yes, the nausea was pretty bad on the first few days, but by the third day (sat the 22nd, my birthday!!) I was feeling better. I was soo tired, but most of the nausea was gone. I was in a chemo fog of fatigue and feeling wierd until a few days after that. I never got mouth sores, just fatigue. I had bloodwork on Tuesday 04/25 and the results were good. No Neutropenia for me yet. I have more labs on Tuesday 05/02/17. As of today (10 days post chemo) I feel back to my old self. My hair has started shedding today. I get a few strands with each pass-through of my hands through my hair. Even though I was nauseated, I never vomited. For that, I was thankful. Some things that helped me is of course my oral compazine, and they added Ativan to the mix to take when compazine is not quite enough. I also chewed ice chips, drank ginger ale, and munched on saltines. I pretty much lived on that stuff the first two days after chemo. For the next chemo I am going to get a certian kind of mints called "Angel Mints" that chemo patients swear by, because peppermints sooth nausea, and I am also going to get ginger candies. My second AC chemo will be on May 10th, as my dose is every three weeks. I have a total of 3 more to go, then I move on to 12 weekly Taxol infusions. I wish you well on your first chemo!!


    ~Kelly


    Edited to add: Also, I drank a lot of water before, during and after chemo. That helps get the poisons out faster.

  • DodgersGirl
    DodgersGirl Member Posts: 2,382
    edited April 2017

    Kelly- happy belated birthday!!

  • whirlwind
    whirlwind Member Posts: 20
    edited April 2017
  • Breastlessbeth
    Breastlessbeth Member Posts: 16
    edited April 2017

    I started Friday the 28th, my second go round with Idcs with invasion. Same breast, same spot.

    So far no real bad side effects and waiting until my Nulasta comes off.

    Yes your hair will fall out on day 14-18 . I bought 10 different color bandanas and 2 hats. I think a wig would be too hot in tbe summet.

    Good luck

  • notanisland
    notanisland Member Posts: 142
    edited April 2017

    DodgersGIrl, Thank you for sharing your experience in such detail. I think you know how much this helps. While learning of the challenges and issues that others go through may or may not apply to me, I feel better prepared to face whatever comes. I'm pretty sure that I will have a problem getting good sleep - I haven't had a full night's sleep since DX.

    Breastless Beth, I'm so sorry about your recurrence. One of the things I haven't yet allowed myself to dwell on (there's so much to think and worry about up to this point in diagnosis and treatment plan) is how this diagnosis changes life forever. When meeting my MO yesterday he didn't sugarcoat the fact that there are no guarantees, that there's always a possibility of recurrence and that diagnostic tools are good but far from perfect. I had a palpable lump and very dense breast tissue as far back as August 2015, but mammogram and ultrasound found nothing until 3 weeks ago. It sounds like you were monitoring yourself and caught it early - in the same spot! I'm glad you aren't having bad SE so far, and thanks for the tip on the need for head coverings within 2-3 weeks of first treatment. I'd better start shopping now.

    Whirlwind, You sound like you're doing so much better! Thank you for sharing what's working for you. The stress and anxiety of the past few weeks has destroyed my appetite and I've lost 10 pounds simply from eating less. Of course, I could stand to lose those 10 pounds and more, but I'm sure that weight loss is discouraged during chemo, so I'll take advice from you and DodgersGirl and stock up on the types of foods we eat when we're down with the flu - crackers, ginger ale, clear soup, ginger tea - for those days I'm just too nauseated. Thanks to you and Dodgers Girl for the tips on the oral rinse - after hearing that you both have had no problem with mouth sores, I'll be sure to use it. I'm feeling a little trepidation over having my 4 AC treatments scheduled every other week (instead of every 3 weeks like you) - because by the time I'm feeling normal again it'll be time for the next treatment. Ugh.

    Thank you dear ladies for walking me through this. Just receiving a response from you makes me feel better. I know that people care, but it's especially helpful and meaningful when support comes from those who really know what you're going through - and strangers at that! I don't consider you strangers anymore. Wishing you the Best with Lots of Hugs and Thanks



  • DodgersGirl
    DodgersGirl Member Posts: 2,382
    edited April 2017

    notanisland- also remember to drink water, lots of it, during and after chemo. Visualize that you are trying to flush all that toxic AC out of your system. Drink. My chemo nurse told me that room temp water would also help with nausea. I prefer COLD water but after chemo I drink room temp water.

    I don't know if anyone has mentioned this so while talking water, I will. You will be voiding AC for like 23 hours after chemo. So it is recommended by some chemo centers that you rinse that area off with water or wet wipes so as not to have sores in the nether regions. I have 2 friends who both ended up in ER because of painful sores there. I purchased cheap BPA free water bottles (like you might drink water out of) and keep in all my bathrooms filled with water and use each time for 24 hours. So far, no issues. I don't think anyone hear has mentioned sores there either so the water or wipes may not be needed but I sure didn't want to have sores there to deal with.

    I am ok with AC every two weeks as I do get a good weekend every other weekend and will get thru AC a tad faster. But I am concerned about the 12 weeks in a row of Taxol as I am not sure you get to recover from weekly treatments.

    This is a like changing event we are all going thru. I really do appreciate everyone's posts here as it does help me from feeling alone with these strughles

  • Momojcbc
    Momojcbc Member Posts: 94
    edited April 2017

    Utjoy- I became flushed like you are talking. They told me it was the steroid and to take 1 instead of 2. Glad to see your spirit is still up.

    Notanisland- welcome, but sorry we all have to meet this way. I am doing a/c every other week as well. I work from home too and my kids are in school all day. I find I have much time to think about all this, I could work more but I am just not as motivated.

    Brestlessbeth- My heart breaks for you. Would you mind sharing what treatments you had the first time around? How long ago was it? I like the bandanas/scarfs better than the wigs as well. I am in Arizona and I don't think I can handle wearing he wig even though I did get one.

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  • notanisland
    notanisland Member Posts: 142
    edited April 2017

    DodgersGirl, What a great tip. Makes sense too. What goes in, comes out, so I will have a "bottle bidet" (plastic bottle of room temp water) next to the toilet for rinsing. I will probably be at home the 24 hours after chemo, but in case I have to use a public restroom I can carry wipes. I have to tell you, my plumber says they may say "flushable" but they shouldn't!

    Momojcbc, Freelancing and working at home has pros and cons, that's for sure. I could also be doing a lot more, but don't feel motivated. Just anxious and unfocused. And I haven't even started treatment yet! I still haven't taken the buspirone that my PCP prescribed to "take the edge off" my up & down anxiety. It's a maintenance drug and has to be taken continuously, has a whole pamphlet of possible side effects and says "you may feel worse before you feel better." It takes a month to reach full benefit.

    Today, I tell my 30-yo daughter about my BC. She has no idea of my DX 4/12. I felt I needed time to gather as much information from tests, scans, and doctors. Now that I have a treatment plan it's time to tell her. Wish me luck!

  • StaceyB
    StaceyB Member Posts: 32
    edited April 2017

    Hi All -

    I had my first round of TC on Wednesday. I was not able to sleep for 4 days after the steriods and felt just miserable. By Friday, I have broken out in a painful acne rash (all over my chest, neck and back). Ugh! Anyone have experience with this and is there anything you have done for it? Also, my throat has been sore and I have a persistent metallic taste in my mouth, so even water is tasting kind of funny right now which makes it hard to drink Anyone know if there is anything to do to get rid of that?

    Thanks!



  • DodgersGirl
    DodgersGirl Member Posts: 2,382
    edited April 2017

    StaceyB- some of the chemo tips on this site talk about adding lemon to water to help mask a metallic taste. And to you disposable cups and flatware to help with metallic taste. I haven't tried these tips but thought I would pass them along.

    Reference the rash, reading online it seems that is a likely SE from Cytoxan. Some posters found relief from Gold Bond medicated extra strength powderwhile someone else had success with aloe gel or Cetaphil and Benadryl for itching. Wondering if your MO might not have something to help?

  • StaceyB
    StaceyB Member Posts: 32
    edited May 2017

    DodgersGirl - Thank you so much :) I will try the lemon. I am trying to be diligent about the drinking, but hard when it tastes awful. I think I am going to call my MO tomorrow and ask about the rash... they may recommend the same thing.

  • Pambc010417
    Pambc010417 Member Posts: 102
    edited May 2017

    I had my first chemo treatment on April 26 and I used the penguin cold caps caps for saving my hair. I'm not sure if it will work but it sounds like I should find out how much hair I lose around May 6 or 7th. I felt pretty good while taking the steroids, but today I was very tired, sore and achy muscles/bones, neuropathy, and mouth sores. I have been taking Claritin which is supposed to help with the bone aches from Neulasta. I started taking Claritin a few days before treatment and will continue throughout all treatments.

    Has anyone found a good way to put ice on hands and feet to prevent neuropathy?

  • DodgersGirl
    DodgersGirl Member Posts: 2,382
    edited August 2017

    pambc010417- what kind of chemo are you getting? My chemo nurses told me I didn't need to ice hand or feet while on AC but should do that during Taxol.

    My plan for icing is: I bought a large rectangle plastic tub that we will fill with water and "blue ice". I will have my hands in double layer food safe plastic gloves with Velcro bands to seal around my wrist. I gave extra blue ice bars that we will have in a cooler that we bring with us. For my feet, I bought the coolingsocks I found on Amazon and I bought extra cold pads designed for them. It is supposed to cool the feet. Not sure if I will need/want my toes in ice too so may buy a larger tub and keep ice water in it too and then put my feet in large room ziplock bags sealed with Velcro.

    I have painted my nails dark blue or dark purple and will continue doing that. Biotin is supposed to be good for nails but I haven't looked into taking that (yet?)

    I am taking B6 which is supposed to help prevent neuropathy


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