April 2017 Chemo

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  • CSA
    CSA Member Posts: 14
    edited April 2017

    Hello All,

    I hope you ladies don't mind a man in the mix here. I'm aware there is a forum for men here, but as there are many more ladies working through BC, the pool of knowledge is much bigger. So here's my position, 48, in good overall health, no history of cancer on either side of family except for a few minor skin lesions. After left beast and underarm node become swollen, went to doc and was told it was due to severe sinus infection, which I had at the time. After a round of antibiotics, the node swelling went away, but the breast remained swollen. After a while, I decided to follow up with another doctor and she immediately sent me for a ultrasound, then mammogram, then biopsy. You know the results or I wouldn't be here. IDC and three nodes positive. Now I've been in car wrecks, fights, and even shot at, but never felt fear like hearing I have cancer.

    So I had unilateral left mastectomy and node dissection on March 7. The surgeon said he felt like he got it all and my margins were clear. CT & bone scan confirmed he got it all and that nothing had spread! Praise God! Oncologist plans 4 rounds of AC two weeks apart followed by 12 weeks of Taxol, then radiation. Now I'm a big ugly redneck and I know I'm not supposed to be scared, but I have to admit that I'm really stressing over the unknown. That's another reason I'm here. You ladies are so strong! It's absolutely amazing.

    How many of you were able to work during your chemo? I work behind a desk but the doc says she doesn't want me to work for the first two week cycle. Were you able to do chores around the house? I absolutely hate the thought of someone else doing my work in the yard because I don't like to have to rely on others to take care of my responsibility.

  • JLBinPDX
    JLBinPDX Member Posts: 127
    edited April 2017

    Welcome to our unfortunate group, CSA. I've only been here a couple weeks but can't believe the quality info and strong people that are part of it. I'm a college prof, writer, and editor and appreciate the educated, well-structured responses as well as the revealing nature of posts. I've never had occasion to rave about a forum like I can rave about this one.

    I, like you, am not good at giving over my chores, my responsibilities, my power. That is one thing that I'm open to as a learning lesson from this--to let a few more caring people into my life and let help be received. Why is it that I am willing and wanting to help others but not allowing others to do the same for me? When I look at it this way, I'm more open to it. I'm very good at pushing people away so one of my lessons here is to let them in. One way to answer your own question about work is how would you feel about taking on others' responsibilities if he/she had cancer? Maybe you can allow them to gift you with some lessening of your burden. Just a thought.

  • Momojcbc
    Momojcbc Member Posts: 94
    edited April 2017

    Doryp- welcome! Sorry we all have to meet this way. I love what you said about having this group for support. No one really understands unless they are in it. I have found sometimes I am comforting some people about my diagnoses. I have found this group a positive outlet and huge help.

    CSA- Welcome! I work from home, and I was out a few days for my chemo. I have graciously accepted most help that has been offered. That is so not my personality, but I know I can't do all this on my own. I too believe that there are lessons in all of this and I think that one of mine is letting go and realizing I can't control everything. Knowing this will make me stronger, somehow gives me peace most days. I have found great strength in the other women here as well. I love how positive this group has been.

    PDX- Great advice.

  • Lydian5
    Lydian5 Member Posts: 1
    edited April 2017

    Hello everyone, this is my first post since I joined this site. This past January I had the diep flap reconstruction surgery. Due to my diabetes, it has taken me a little longer than average to heal. I am scheduled to begin my chemo on Monday April 17, 2017 (12 weeks after surgery). I am anxious because I didn't want to have to wait this long to have chemo. I want it to be over with and done. I am scheduled to have 4 dose dense rounds of A/C once every other week and then 12 light rounds of Taxol every week for 12 weeks. I really am appreciative of this site because hearing some of the success stories uplifts me. Having someone who understands what you are going through is wonderful. My DH and family keeps telling me to cheer up but that's easy for someone to say when they are not faced with what we are faced with. I'm scared out of my mind!

  • DodgersGirl
    DodgersGirl Member Posts: 2,382
    edited February 2018

    doryp- welcome to the group that none of us wanted to be part of yet now that we are here we are so glad to be learning from each other. This is a great place to ask questions and talk about what ever is on your mind. What kind of chemo are you getting? Have you tried taking a Claritin the day before Neulasta and continue taking it for 4 days along with the pain reliever of your choice? I did not any bone pain this chemo round

    Csa- welcome to you, too. Like many women here, I am scheduled for 4 rounds of AC every other week then 12 weeks Taxol. My 1st AC was last Wednesday. Felt fine Wednesday and Thursday mostly but Friday I missed a full day of work as I couldn't keep my eyes open or concentrate. But by Monday, I was able to work 10 hours and worked 12 hour today. I work from home on a computer so I don't have a lot of physical tasks. I am hoping I can repeat this schedule next cycle, too I am not doing my "tasks" at home though. My family is handling that and, as others stated so well, it is not my nature to shirk responsibilities but this is a life lesson for me. I am fighting for my life so I can return to my normal role for many years to come but for now I let my family do things to help me.

    WE are all worried about the path we were given. But thru the support here, we can take this path one day at a time. We can all do this.

  • BSchutt
    BSchutt Member Posts: 23
    edited April 2017

    Welcome, Doryp and CSA. This forum is so supportive and a wealth of information. Everyone is able to share what they are going through, big or small and any little victories along the way. As others have said, it is incredibly difficult to allow others to help and it is very emotional for me when alone and I feel the frustrations of not being able to do what I want to when I want to. I agree, there are lessons in everything in life and this is one for me to learn. This experience has been a wake up call to not take anything in life for granted, to appreciate each and every day. Enjoy nature around us that we may forget to look at and appreciate the beauty. Enjoy your family and loved ones in the moment.

    I'm 53 and retired so I don't have to work but I've so much respect for those who continue working through this. Just know that on the bad days you need to tell yourself the next day will be a little better..we can do it. I've finished my 4 rounds of AC and start Taxol/carboplatin tomorrow but I still struggle with energy levels and strength which for me is a really hard one because we work out (or used to) all the time. I'm discovering yoga and mindful breathing to center myself and gather a calm and peace inside. The stretching is wonderful, too, since I can't lift weights anymore. I'm challenging myself to get that back when I'm done with chemo and surgery which follows.

    I wanted to mention that the awful mouth taste and dry mouth was alleviated some for me by sipping on lemon infused water. I hope that helps some of you, too!

    I'm currently reading "Being Well (Even when you are sick)" by Elana Rosenbaum and cancer survivor. So far, it seems to be helpful to me.

    Have a Blessed Wednesday, everyone! Barb

  • JLBinPDX
    JLBinPDX Member Posts: 127
    edited April 2017

    I thank you guys for the posts. It's so helpful to read others' experiences as I start chemo in a few hours. Two things resonated with me in reading this early morning (before an echocardiogram before chemo). One is " letting go and realizing I can't control everything." If I can learn this during my journey, it'll be a miracle and blessing (thanks Momo). And Dodgers, your first week was helpful to me. I'm hoping/expecting something similar.

    And BSchutt, we're about the same age--I'm 57. I'm not retired, but teach only one class/quarter and freelance. Yes, this has really helped with my 9 or 10 trips to the hospital in less than three weeks and what's to come with chemo. I had a port put in on Monday--not very happily--and I hope it was the right decision. It's still sore and pretty bruised (but I bruise very easily) and blood pooling. I hope it was worth it. I do wonder how I can be this sick after being so healthy all my life. I'm trying to look at it as my portion. The lessons, the lessons, that's what I'm trying to keep in mind this morning. The lessons I'm learning and will learn are going to make this journal more tolerable, understandable, and doable. Thanks, BSchutt, for this reminder.

  • Momojcbc
    Momojcbc Member Posts: 94
    edited April 2017

    Lydian- Welcome! Use this group to find strength! We are all here for each other, it helps so much! Some of us have not had surgery yet, so I am sure we will be reaching out for your support then. I was pretty anxious about chemo as well, it was my first set of treatment for all this. It made this all so much more real. I hope you can find comfort here.

    Dodgersgirl- I work from home on a computer as well. I have a little virtual assistant type business for real estate. What do you do?

    Bsshutt- I ordered a book as well, I am waiting for it to get here. I too have been drinking lemon water as nothing else tastes good.

    JLB- I keep thinking if I hurry up and learn life will quit (excuse my French) shitting on me.LOL

  • Annbee
    Annbee Member Posts: 208
    edited April 2017
    Good morning and welcome to all the new members...sorry that you are here.
    I had my first AC on Monday morning. Everyone has told me day 3 is the worst. Would that be today or tomorrow when I stop all the meds? I have found that the sea bands have been helpful.
    I am a teacher and was able to take the rest of the school year off with the help of my union. I hope everyone has a good day. Very tired today.
  • BSchutt
    BSchutt Member Posts: 23
    edited April 2017

    You are most welcome, JLBinPDX. I continue to try to find lessons in all of this for myself. I think you will find having the port will make things easier especially if it takes away the possibility of the chemo messing up your veins and tissues. Hopefully, the bruising will go away soon. I seem to bruise after each transfusion.

    Momo, please let us know if the book ordered is helpful.

    Hi, Anne. I think day 2-3 were bad for me and even afterward I was tired alot. The first couple of days, I seem to nap and go to bed early. I'm not usually a napper but I just got so tired.

  • DodgersGirl
    DodgersGirl Member Posts: 2,382
    edited April 2017

    Momojcbc - I am a project manager for a software company. I was given an option to work from home last summer. What a blessing that has turned out to be. Much easier to work without having to add 90 mins of computing to my day!

  • Mzara82
    Mzara82 Member Posts: 1
    edited April 2017

    Hi everyone,

    So I had my first treatment of TCPH on April 5th. It took about 5 hours as I received pre-meds to help with the more manageable side effects like nausea, diarrhea etc. My port was placed the day before. I was freaking out about getting the port in because i really don't like to be put under. Fortunately, it went well i guess. They were able to place the port off to the side so its less visible. I can tell you although my care has been phenomenal thus far, I too am not looking forward to the effects of receiving this treatment. It's now 1 week since the first treatment and I've had nausea, diarrhea, dry mouth (which has led to off taste of food). I've began to research wigs as well and have made an appointment with a hair dresser to style it. Sigh...Anyway, onward and upward. Can't let it get us down.

  • BSchutt
    BSchutt Member Posts: 23
    edited April 2017

    Welcome, Mzara82. Glad you found this forum of very supportive ladies/gents. Glad that your first treatment is under your belt but I'm sorry you have the side effects that really annoying and uncomfortable. Did you take any prescribed meds for nausea after the treatment? Hopefully, you will be better by the time your next treatment.

  • Momojcbc
    Momojcbc Member Posts: 94
    edited April 2017

    Dodgersgirl- That is awesome! I feel blessed to be able to work from home during this as well. I feel like there has been events this last year to better help our family cope with all this.

    Mzara- Welcome! Is TCHP a form of chemo? I have not seen that acronym before. I hope you are starting to feel better.

    ALL- I wanted to report that tomorrow is two weeks since I had my first chemo. I am not noticing any changes in my hair. Still intact. It is hard to imagine a week from now it will most likely be gone. How is everyone else?

    I found a cute halo wig that you can wear under a hat. Hat not included.

    https://www.headcovers.com/hair-halo-long-hats-with-hair-detachable-bangs/

    I wanted to have something to help keep me positive through all this. So, I ordered this book, I really like it so far.

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0446563595/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    I also ordered this one on breast cancer, it has not come in the mail yet.

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1559583622/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    I got these books from the Marnie Clark web Site. She has a wealth of information on there about everything breast cancer. I believe she is a naturopath?

    http://marnieclark.com/

  • JLBinPDX
    JLBinPDX Member Posts: 127
    edited April 2017

    Momo, I'm looking to you as you're exactly two weeks in ahead of me. And keep the recommendations coming. I live in Portland, the city with the largest independent bookstore in the country, Powells, and I can always use an excuse to go in. The Simple Abundance books can't be a bad thing and may bring even more light in. I'm not ready for a breast cancer book, I don't think. I'm triple negative so I see some books out on just that, but need lots of positive right now salted with reality. That shifts day to day, but needing more knowledge a bit gradually right now.

    It's been a busy week--bone scan (fine), port surgery (super bruised but better), echocardiogram and EKG (fine), then chemo--AND IT's only Thursday morning! Chemo wasn't what I expected. I had this idea that you go in, sit in a chair in a private area and get pumped with toxins for four hours, then leave. Umm, no. It's was all tolerable, however, with incredible people. I am blessed with Providence Portland and an incredible staff from the doctors to nurses to the funny, bright-light cart driver that insisted I ride instead of walk.

    Going to teach today, the day after AC chemo, then headed back for a Nuelasta injection (is injection the only option?!). Feeling fine now just knowing it hits more on days 3 or 4. I'm keeping hopeful but will deal with whatever comes.

    Thanks ladies,

    Julie

  • DodgersGirl
    DodgersGirl Member Posts: 2,382
    edited April 2017

    Momojcbc - do you get your next AC chemo tomorrow? I get my 2nd next Wednesday.

    If so, will keep you in my thoughts tomorrow.

  • CSA
    CSA Member Posts: 14
    edited April 2017

    Thank you all for welcoming me so graciously!

    Annbee - How are you feeling today? Hopefully you are doing well. Since you are just a few days ahead of me and taking the same treatment, I want to follow your progress closely if you don't mind.

    I work for a research university and I'm hoping they will let me work from home like some of you are doing. Since I sit at a desk most of the day and can take my files home, I think it won't be a problem.

  • JoyAl
    JoyAl Member Posts: 9
    edited April 2017

    Hi CSA - I also work at a desk and the doctor did not tell me I couldn't work but I think they'll probably rein me in if my blood counts are too low. I have a very supportive office and I can work from home if needed - I just prefer the office so I can use my giant monitors.

    Lydian5 - It does help to have others in similar situations to talk with, family and friends are supportive but unless they've gone through this they will never really understand. You can do this.

    To anyone who has not started chemo yet - Fear of the unknown is much worse than the actual doing. I thought I was going run away in a panic my first and only time for chemo - honestly, I thought they could probably see the panic that I was trying to hide - but you sit down, the wonderful nurse tells you all about the nice snacks and warm blankets and all the other things they have to make you comfortable, and then you just start - when it happens there are no sirens or a big to-do and you probably won't even feel much. Just take a deep breath, you are stronger than those little magic liquids.

    Three main tips: Drinks as much water as you can stand before and after, and take advantage of nausea and bone pain meds (for me that's Zofran and Zyrtec), and manage constipation - lots of ways of doing it, it'll happen and it won't be comfy.

    I'm scheduled again next Thursday and I'm ready, only three more meetings with the Red Devil. I can do it, you can do it.

  • JoyAl
    JoyAl Member Posts: 9
    edited April 2017

    JLBinPDX:

    Injection is the only option for Nuelasta but you can get the on-body injector (if insurance covers it) so you won't have to go back in just for a shot. I really appreciated not getting out of bed!

    Speaking of PDX - my family is all in Oregon, mainly Portland and Central OR. I went to OSU. I had to move across the country for work but the minute I retire I'm moving back, buying 5 acres, a goat and 3 chickens, and starting a very large garden. Then I will never move again!!!

  • JLBinPDX
    JLBinPDX Member Posts: 127
    edited April 2017

    To follow up on JoyAI, I, too, thought chemo was manageable. The first time in a big room of strangers was a little off-putting. And I wasn't prepared for the draw blood, see the doc, come back, and then get started (with an EKG that I'd missed in there, too). But the process was really okay. Friendly, kind people and nurses and a volunteer and a pharmacist that were stellar. Chemo, itself, is going to be doable!

  • Annbee
    Annbee Member Posts: 208
    edited April 2017
    Today is day 4 and this morning was the last day to take the scheduled anti nausea and steroid med. I feel better today. Less tired, but did take a nap. I picked up around the house and put a dinner in the crockpot for the family. My appetite is still yucky but not too bad. Honestly it hasn't been to bad. My skin feels more dry than usual. Hoping I am over the worst of it. No bone pain as of yet. It helps to have all of you
  • JoyAl
    JoyAl Member Posts: 9
    edited April 2017

    That's great news Annbee! Sounds very much like my first round last week on AC - on day 4 I made breakfast and went food shopping, then took a nap. I will say I took the nausea meds another day and didn't take steroids. So, what do you think helped you besides the meds?

  • Momojcbc
    Momojcbc Member Posts: 94
    edited April 2017

    JLB- I don't know if I am ready to read the breast cancer one either. I think I have read plenty online. I have yet to get a bone scan and its really stressing me out. My doc won't order it nor will she tell me why. Even though my lymph nodes tested positive. I have an appointment to get a second opinion next week.

    Dodgersgirl- My next one is 4/25, they switched me from Fridays to Tuesdays. I go every three weeks.

    Annbee- I am glad you are feeling better.

  • MicroGirl
    MicroGirl Member Posts: 16
    edited April 2017

    This is my first post on this great site. A lot of what people have written here resonates with me as well.

    Ports: I had the port put in two days before my first treatment, and I am so glad I did (though maybe another couple days of recovery would have been preferable). It's incredibly easy to get "hooked up", and it protects the veins from damage, both of which are pluses in my book. The site has healed up and the bruising is gone by now, but I have to be careful not to whack it putting on clothes; I can be clumsy about it basically. It's amazing what just a half inch or less sticking out can do to your sense of where things are on your body.

    I started chemo March 22, like MomoJcbc, before surgery, which will hopefully be in June. I had my second treatment (TC) yesterday, and I will say the first and second were quite different.

    The first I very much wanted to just get done (fear of the unknown as JoyAl said). The first treatment day was a breeze-amazing nurses and spent time chatting with my mom, who's recently retired from nursing for 40 years. Handy, I must say. The day after not so much, but nausea meds were great. I didn't drink enough and the right enough, i.e. just water and herbal tea, no gatorade or other electrolyte replacement. In addition I hadn't had coffee (my only, but constant source of caffeine)for days because the bitter taste was stomach turning. Headaches for days until I went in for my CBC and follow up. Needless to say I've found alternate sources of caffiene. The Neulasta shot was fine, with only minor bone pain. I felt bad for almost a week after he first treatment, but the second and third week felt good, and even fatigue was pretty minor by the couple days before the second treatment. Those first few days after though, I felt like I wasn't going to feel well for the entire 12 weeks. But it passed.

    So I learned some things and treatment #2 was yesterday. I had a severe hypersensitivty to the taxotere (hot, red face, rapid heart rate and throat closing). Doc and nurses rush in as I'm about to black out; hooked me up to oxygen, removed the taxotere and ran benadryl+more steroid. I rebounded quickly, and in 20 minutes they had me on the taxotere again at a MUCH lower rate. It took a total of 6 hours but I did get my full treatment. I pre-gamed with lots of fluids, including electrolytes. Drank after and am caffeinated. I also hit the claritin+advil before the Neulasta shot. So far so good. Too good...I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop. Ha.

    I also found these super inspiring temporary tattoos that I put on my forearm for the days after. They keep me focused somewhat, which has helped (consciousink.com) No, I don't work for them :-) I've also been doing short walks. I'm a hiker at heart, so the nice weather and being out has helped me mentally.

    Working during chemo: I'm a college prof and have been working through chemo, but luckily my schedule is flexible and my colleagues have covered a couple classes for me, and mostly for the "you need a biopsy today" and getting other appointments scheduled in ASAP. I'm also learning to graciously accept help- my freezer is stocked, which is an amazing comfort, even when I'm not eating much.

  • Momojcbc
    Momojcbc Member Posts: 94
    edited April 2017

    Microgirl-Welcome! I checked out those tattoos, so cute! I believe it is PDX who is also a college prof?

  • Annbee
    Annbee Member Posts: 208
    edited April 2017
    JoyAl I think it was making sure I drank, and lots of sleep.

  • DodgersGirl
    DodgersGirl Member Posts: 2,382
    edited April 2017

    just wanted to say that I put in a 40 hour work week for the first time in a while this week!

    Next week I have out patient surgery on Monday and 2nd AC chemo on Wednesday so if that chemo goes like my first round working Friday will be tough as my eyes didn't want to stay open. So we will see.

    But for now, its the weekend and I can just enjoy family thru Sunday

    Hope everyone is doing the best they can given the path we are on

  • utjoy
    utjoy Member Posts: 56
    edited April 2017

    Hey all...I was not having an easy time posting so didn't because I was out of town from Sunday till Thursday! I went to visit my daughter and her family.

    Got the power-port Wednesday morning, general anesthesia, no tube (yeah), very bruised and sore the first 2 days, chemo, AC, same day. Neulasta Injector...all is good, I woke up this morning with a slight headache, puffy eyes and the onco said to take one more steroid this morning and no more since I have no se's at this time. I've only taken the steroids 2 in the morning and 2 in the afternoon and claritin along with my bp meds and potassium. No pain pills or Zofran...I did take Tylenol but really have not had any pain so far or nausea. Very little indigestion, I do take Pepcid at bedtime...everything seems to be ok so far...my taste buds haven't changed yet, either. I feel lucky so far...a little shaky from the steroids, though! And yes...bumping the port is a shocker!

    We can do this!!!! I have drank so much water that I can only see out of the top part of my eyes. Jk. lol. It does feel that way, though!

  • Momojcbc
    Momojcbc Member Posts: 94
    edited April 2017

    Hi Ladies-


    I'm glad everyone is doing well. I have caught some kind of a cold I have had a terrible sore throat for the last three days. It just keeps getting worse. I called the doctor and they said to come in if my fever goes up to 100.4 or I have chills. Of course I had a terrible night with chills and my throat hurt so bad. I check my temp and its 100. I think I will still call the doctor today. I think I have a sinus infection as I have a head ache too..Sorry for the whining I hate being sick!


    HAIR- So yesterday 2 weeks on the dot my hair started to shed. This morning it was all over my pillow and i got some good chunks when I touched it. I am not sure how long I can stand by and watch my hair fall out. I may shave it monday when the kids are back in school.

  • BSchutt
    BSchutt Member Posts: 23
    edited April 2017

    Momojcbc, so sorry about your cold and chills...sounds awful! Watch your temp. carefully, because our immune systems are depleted and you don't want this to go to far. Hopefully, you feel better soon! The hair....I know it is extremely difficult to come to the conclusion of shaving. I think hubby and I talked about it for weeks beforehand so when the time came I was ready. I think we all expect people to stare at us but I didn't really find that happening even though for awhile I refused to look people in the eye. But you begin to get your confidence and I realized I didn't want to go around staring at the ground. For me it was easier to shave it than to watch it come out in patches and then I'd look like I had mange or something. We even get to see what our bald head shape is...how many people get to do that? I discovered a mole on top :) Bald is the new beautiful as my oncologist says.

    Welcome, MicroGirl. Sounds like you had a rough second treatment...how scary! Hopefully, that won't happen again as they monitor you closely.

    Yeah, good for you Dodgersgirl in getting a full week in....I admire you!

    Hope everyone can enjoy this weekend with family....Happy Easter!

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