March 2017 Surgery
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Tappermom383, that is exactly what I am feeling. It feels like something kind of rough or sharp is rubbing right in the at the juncture of my armpit and arm. But there is nothing there.
It sounds like we have almost the same dx. I'm in the Palm Springs area, so not that far from Lake Arrowhead. I went into UCLA for my surgeries, and am considering Loma Linda for proton therapy as my form of rads.
Best wishes
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I got my drains out Thursday, yay! But my pain, which had been steadily going down, has suddenly gone back up to the point I'm taking pain pills 3 times a day! Has anyone had that right after drains removed? My drains were in for four weeks. I didn't have that happen with my first MX.
I was a so happy to have my drains out because the PS put the tube incisions so far back on each side they were practically on my back. Impossible to reach first couple weeks with my T-Rex arms, thank goodness I had my dh to help. When I finally had enough mobility back, it was still so hard to reach with both arms to strip them and they were placed right where my compression bra band hit them so they were constantly being irritated by that. I don't know what my PS was thinking. Grrrr
Gross alert! One of my drains hadn't been producing hardly any fluid for a long time and smelled like this gross sweet perfume smell. Found out the drainage was not fluid but my tissue leaking into the drain which was then rotting, GROSS! By Thursday I was gagging from the smell.
But my other drain was still producing 30-40cc so hoping I don't get a seroma. Had like three of them with first MX because the drains came out too early.
Hope everyone's infections get better, it's such a frustrating road. I'm going to have to try vitamin C. Is there any special kind? I usually take Thorne brand vitamins because they use more natural sources and less if any synthetics. I did find a naturopathic doctor that specializes in cancer and was recommended by my MO, so I am excited to try him out.
Sending positive thoughts and gentle air hugs to everyone.
PS I haven't been on here practically since my surgery. You all gave me such wonderful support after my surgeon was such a jerk, but I've been really depressed since then, and couldn't get on here, just too down, I guess. I don't know if his treatment of me was just the final straw in this horrible cancer experience or the meds are getting me down or what, but it's pretty bad. The only time I've ever felt like this was when I had bad postpartum depression. I know I need to see someone but it's hard with everything else... and trying to find someone on my insurance that can handle cancer...just seems so impossible. But I wanted to thank all of you for giving me such great suppport. It helped so much to not feel alone.
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Lisbeth:
I can't really rec. a Vitamin C but also use Thorne and feel they are a good brand. I have an appt with a naturopath, too, coming up. This was actually on my pre-C list but had not gotten to it yet.
As far as speaking to someone, even without your insurance while you get that figured out, your nurse practitioner -- if you have one -- OR BS/PS/MO should be able to give you a name of a social worker or therapist, very often without charge. My local cancer center and MD Anderson (where I had surgery) have someone "on call" that is without charge (aside from what you decide to do with your insurance, etc.). If you're feeling like this, I'd get in touch tomorrow morning and let them know you need assistance now.
Also -- American Cancer Society has folks manning phones all the time, too. Idk for sure but reach out. There's no reason to go through this alone. You aren't alone!!!
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eastcoast, those are all great resources. I agree lisbeth, reach out to one of your clinical people. My MO has a social worker that is always checking in with me. I'm sure they would be happy to help. Do you have a Gilda's Club in your city? It might be hard, but hopefully you can find the strength to reach out for help. Hugs!
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Been reading along with everyone just haven't felt like posting too much. I am sorry to hear about everyone's infections. I'm dealing with that now and it's pushing back treatment, which is doubly frustrating. Was supposed to start chemo 3/30, but it's looking like the earliest now will be 4/27. I go back to work 4/17 so of course this has thrown off all my "plans". I hope everyone has a quick recovery.
"Good" news about work is that in addition to cutting pay and laying off people, they abolished the dress code. There's nothing in writing, so I can only go off what my boss texted me: no shorts, no rubber flip flops, nothing vulgar. So I can at least wear leggings, since my abdomen still has some swelling and jeans and more structured pants are uncomfortable. Just need to get some loose tunic length shirts. The PS said I can wear a bra as long as it is front closure and non compression non underwire, which HE felt was an easy find (not sure when he was last bra shopping), but in reality, is not. I have 7 days to track something down. I'm tall and need adjustable straps so nothing tugs, rides up on, or pulls on the DIEP side. I've found 1 non compression front closing bra but it's a racer back with non adjustable straps. The straps are about 1/2" to 3/4" too short. Worse comes to worse I I'll add a bit of elastic to lengthen them
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why does dr want front close bra? I would think if you have the range it wouldn't matter.
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I don't have full range yet. I was only given the ok to start moving the left side more on Friday. Because of the microsurgery and all I guess they are cautious. I don't want to have gone through all this only to have it fail. I am not a candidate for an implant due to all the damage from the rads I had. The only other option would be a lat flap and I'm not comfortable with that.
I can pull things on over my head if they are stretchy, but getting them off can be tricky. Hubby is a big help when needed. With the bras, he could help me, too. But I want to feel self sufficient and if he's not around, I need to be able to do it myself comfortably.
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If dr doesn't mind you doing the "hook the bra in front and spin it to the back" trick, you may want to consider a bra I got at wall mart. It's basically sport bra fabric, back clasp. Sized S thru 3x, but straps are typical distance, not racer back. It's Hanes smooth comfort #G796
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Tried to catch up on all the reading in this thread. Lots going on, and sorry to hear about so many issues! I guess I've progressed along pretty good, a few ups and downs, mostly emotional downs. I can't complain though overall I'm doing well. Back to work tomorrow, 5 wks post bmx w/o reconstruction, desk job. Had a busy busy day yesterday taking the pup to be neutered, running errands, looking after the pup. I practically passed out from fatigue last night. I hope the the work week goes well! Hang in there everybody
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goldie, good luck on getting back to work! I can't wait to get back!
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2Fun, that is a great idea. Not sure why that didn't occur to me. After rotator cuff surgery that is what I didand this is basically the same weakness/limitations as that. Brilliant! I'll check out the bra you recommended. Thanks!
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Good luck back to work tomorrow, Goldie. I hope it goes really well!
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I've now had the flu for 3 days. I can't imagine how sick I would be if I had chemo and rads. Should I be in touch with GP tomorrow? I figure I need to tough it out.DH is pretty cranky about me being sick. Sometimes I forget how much he keeps the ship upright and moving forward.
I assume my PS will not want to see me for a fill?
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Goldie. . .best wishes on going back to work. Take it easy.
2FUN. . .sorry about the flu, It can't hurt to call and let them know you had surgery. It's been a bad flu year. Dh and I both caught it in early Jan despite annual flu shots. We got on tamiflu right away but were still in bed for 4 days and coughing etc for two weeks. Hope you feel better soon.
Scottie
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Cdv4251992, I found Fruit of the Loom front close sports bras at Walmart for $8. They don't have adjustable straps, but no underwire, so they may work. Best of luck
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MariH, thanks,that is the one I got. The straps are a bit short. I think it would be easy to get some wide elastic and stitch in a length of it to add what I need and make it work.
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EastCoast, You're right, I will call someone Monday to get a therapist name. My excuse is I've been so busy with all the cancer crap but I never thought about there being phone support people. I should have reached out on here sooner. Thanks!
2Fun, first of all so sorry your dealing with the flu, that's bad enough under normal circumstances, but when recovering from surgery that really is tough to deal with. I'd definitely see your GP or someone about it. I hadn't heard of the Gilda Club, I'll look into it. I did finally (procrastinating since July) go to a local BC support group just this last Thursday and really liked it. But I don't think I could talk about my depression in a group like that. Just one person saying "awwww" would start the flood works, and in public, once I start bawling, I can't stop and the more people that feel sorry for me the worse it gets--soooo embarrassing. But at least I can talk about other cancer stuff there. They seem like real nice ladies so I'll go again..
CDV, sorry about your infection and it pushing out your chemo, that sucks. I've got an infection now too, same place I had one after my first MX. I dread calling the PS, he'll probably find some reason to blame me. Can't for the life of me recall what they had me do about it the first time, I think I remember gauze and neosporin but can't remember if they put me on an antibiotic. After my c.diff hell, not looking forward to more antibiotics, but I did survive my antibiotics after this last surgery--tons of probiotics, so I suppose the same will help. Hope your bra works out. I must confess, I HATE MY COMPRESSION BRA! Only allowed to take it off to shower. I'm counting the days (14) until I can burn this torturous thing!
Goldie, getting your pup neutered cracked me up, always reminds me of that Far Side comic where the dog is excitedly bragging to a friend (dog) from the car, "first we're going to the post office then the vet's to get tutored!" Or something like that--one of my favs. I should find my book of his comics, that would cheer me up. Been binge watching The Office and that's helping, I laugh hysterically. Down to my last season so trying to stretch it out. Good luck with going back to work.
Was going to whine about some other crap going on but thinking about The Office cheered me up, so the pity party will wait for another day.
Love you ladies, sending out healing thoughts to everyone! Thank you for all your support!
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Mari, it's certainly worth a phone call to either your BS or PS office to discuss it with them. It may be nothing but they can let you know for sure and it will give you peace of mind.
MommaB, sorry I didn't quite understand your post. Why can't you have TEs and rads? I seem to recall others who have done both. Good luck on the scan today.
LisbethS, yes! My PS did the same exact thing with my damn drain – it's so far back, practically on my back and right on the bra line, but sadly DH can't help me drain them – he'd faint dead away at the mere idea of it (men!) Stupid surgeons should be required to go through some of this shit just so they understand what we're going through (which is silly, I understand, but a girl can dream.) I'm glad you're at least visiting the boards to keep up, but please, please, please try to find someone local to chat with. You don't have to go through this alone!
Goldie, good luck going back to work today!
2FUN, so sorry about the flu. As if you needed that on top of everything else! Yes, I agree it's worth a call to let everyone know what's up – they may have recommendations for you.
Woke up this morning for the first time in days with zero pain. I feel like I should be happy about that, but I'm afraid that the two abx I'm on are just finally kicking in and may be covering up the real issue. I'm off to see the PS this morning so I'll let you know what's going on after that. Also putting in a call to the healing center to schedule that Vit C infusion also.
Bluebird, any improvement?? Fingers crossed.
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big hug Lisbeth❤️ I had to fire my first oncologist because I felt he was preoccupied!! I'm praying for a speedy recovery and that you get to feeling better soon!!
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Raven- my TE's haven't been expanded at all yet. This Friday will be my first fill. 6 weeks after my BMX. If I don't get chemo and go straight to rads, the PS won't be able to fill the right TE because of the damage to the tissue. So at this point, I'm praying for chemo (wait, what?) so they can push through my fills prior to rads. The RO says I need to be doing some sort of therapy chemo/rads/hormone blockers to keep any stray cancer cells from growing. I'm still adjusting to the fact that I have cancer😕 This can be so overwhelming at times
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Hey ladies;
Its been 5 weeks almost since surgery - mastectomy, TE expander placement and fat grafting on the other side where I had mastectomy 13 years ago.
I am doing my stretching exercises and still feel pain. But its less, I must admit. I am not supposed to lift anything over 10 lbs still or do any pushing or pulling, and neither can I sleep on my side or on my stomach. I am a side sleeper, so this has been affecting sleep.
I went in last week for my second fill on my TE expander, and nurse said my symptoms and pain are expected. She said the burning pain is "normal" and can get worse as you expand more. Ugh.
I have seen my oncologist and radiologist now. I do not need any radiation because I had clean margins and a mastectomy. This is a relief because the plastic surgeon was concerned with dealing with capsular contraction around the TE or implant after radiation damage to the skin. So this is not a concern on my left side.
As for chemo, I am waiting for the oncotype dx test to return. The oncologist thinks i will not need chemo either but she is checking to make sure. She says my 5 tumors were tiny and I am node negative and I am highly (100%) Er+ positive/ and 98% Pr+, her2- and grade 2 with a 1/3 mitotic index so my tumors were unlikely to have spread at all.
So.... this means I just need further recovery from the surgery and then I can return to work. Insurance company will mandate I return to work if do not need chemo. I am a bit concerned about returning to work because I drive around alot and I lift heavy equipment alot. Will I be able to do this in a months time?
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Wallen, make sure your insurance company knows what job tasks you are required to do. Make sure dr also knows of your concerns. It may be up to the dr to hash it out with insurance. Ultimately you need to be medically cleared to go back to work, or your employer will have a potential liability if you get injured. Then it becomes workers comp, and they don't want that. Start with your doctor, and go from there. Do you have a copy of your job description? You should get one.
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I had UMX but am currently limited to 5 pounds lifting with either arm for 6 weeks post op. I am at 4 weeks. My dr told me I could return to work lifting children in/out of wheelchairs in 8 weeks. So 4 more weeks doesn't sound too far off, but like I said, tell your Dr of your concerns
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Hi 2FUN:
Yes, you are right, I need to go to my doctor and get medical clearance. He initially said off work "until further notice" the day I was diagnosed and I was in his office distraught.
My employer is not happy I took time off. They gave me grief from the moment I requested short term disability. My boss told me I can delegate any work I can't do to others so no need for me to take time off. However, this is unrealistic. We all work very independently (alone) in different cities. And, I still need to meet the objectives of the job whether someone helps me or not. If I don't meet the objectives, my job is in jeopardy. Its high pressure. So even though my boss says others will help, this is not the reality and he works out of the country alot so is not a "supervisor".
Anyways, I do not have a description of my job duties. I have an employee-employer contract telling me the goals of the job, but not what is required in day to day duties. I don't think this is available from my employer actually - not formally.
Sigh. I will tell the doctor my concerns and ask the surgeon, especially since i have more surgeries. Hopefully, they can talk to the insurance company.
Thanks 2FUN. How do you feel about returning in a month?
wallan
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I'm hoping I am strong enough to be transferring and treating my kids. My boss doesn't want me back until I am 100% and has coverage contracted until I am ready. I have been 5 pound lifting only since 1/10/17 , so i am anxious to get more strength training in b4 i go back. Im not sure if 2 weeks will be enough. I had pre pectoral TEs, so i am sure that has made all the difference for me.
I don't have short term disability, so that is the difference between us. So have you been sort of working, even tho you are on short term disability? Legally, that not right, but practically, I understand.
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wallan. . .I agree with getting you job description and having PS send in additional paperwork to insurance company if needed. I went back to work 6 weeks post BMx with TEs but still had lifting and reaching restrictions. I should have taken more time off but wanted to save time off for my EX which was 8 months post BMx. This time around I am not allowed any lifting for a full 6 weeks, We'll see what PS says about light weights at the end of this month. Good luck.
Scottie
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Back from PS. No news. They were encouraged that it looked better and that the pain has diminished but concerned that I had a fever over the week-end. (Gee, if only they would have listened to me last week.) They took a culture. Expect results in 3-4 days but if the abx are already working not sure they'll even find anything.
I'm in wait and see and pray mode. He won't do further fills or anything for at least two weeks until we figure out what's going on.
Oh, and Elphaba is still with me. ~sigh~
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Hugs Raven. . .vent away if needed. I know you are frustrated.
I'm debating whether I need to call in to PS. I've been doing better in the mornings, after not moving at night. Any use of arms such as reaching for things and my pecs clench up and I'm in pain by the evening. It's been three weeks, shouldn't I be doing better? I'm limited to slow walking with T-Rex arms.
Scottie
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Hey Raven and Scottie:
Hugs to you both. What an ordeal you are going thru.
Hopefully you lose your drain soon Raven. Its crazy.
wallan
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Hey 2Fun:
Since I am on short term disabilitiy I am off the payroll.
I do not want to work, but I am being called at home and asked to do things still. Unfortunately, what they are asking is or was my responsibility and I have the answers. My DH tells me I have an exaggerated sense of responsibility and to screen my calls a little more thoroughly. In other words, let all calls go to voicemail, and if work calls do not call back.
He says to me, you are off work and its for cancer. You do not have to answer their calls. Its not your problem right now.
I will go to my PS and ask if I am able to work at my duties. Good idea.
wallan
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