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  • Pamela23
    Pamela23 Member Posts: 510
    edited March 2017

    Aterry--I keep thinking of those people who do radiation near the taste buds-- my friend had throat cancer 2 yrs ago--and they seem to get it back so hopefully it'll return soon. It's just so annoying for celebrations like Christmas, birthdays, etc. This weekend I'm hosting my immediate family and their spouses for my mom's 70th and my parents 50th anniversary. Food is a big part of the entire weekend celebration and to think I'm making treats, taking everyone for a tapas dinner and ordering cakes and I can't taste anything which really stinks! I guess the positive is that my weight has been steady!!

    I talked to a women today in Fannie May who couldn't believe I'd turn down a free sample of the chocolate I was buying (it's for my mom) and when I told her I couldn't taste she said her husband went through chemo for leukemia and it took a year for his taste to come back. As long as I know it's not permanent, I can deal with it. Just feel like I'm deprived of the joys of life right now--food, alcohol & sex!

  • Hopfull2
    Hopfull2 Member Posts: 418
    edited March 2017

    BG46TN, congrats. You got through it. And that was so sweet of your sister to show up.

  • Hopfull2
    Hopfull2 Member Posts: 418
    edited March 2017

    Pamela, I'm with you on feeling like we're missing out on food, alcohol and sex. I'm normally this fun girl that lies to feel youthful but lately I feel like an old boaring lady. I just want my old me back.

  • plantchild
    plantchild Member Posts: 37
    edited April 2017

    Anyone here started on herceptin only?

    I start next week and I am wondering if there are any side effects? My OC said no but I have been researching and finsing out there may be some side effects.


  • aterry
    aterry Member Posts: 290
    edited April 2017

    Day 11 PFC I have two (2)! individual hairs that are growing! My hair stopped falling out about the 10th Taxol leaving bits of stubble on, maybe, 1/4 of my head. Now two stubs have grown. So 100,000 to go. There is fuzz coming in for some of the bald patches--like peach fuzz. My shortness of breath is 10% improved. Numbness in face is also 10% improved. Slowly I think I'll regain some normalcy.

  • GT1965
    GT1965 Member Posts: 57
    edited April 2017

    plantchild - I feel the same way. I start Taxol in 2 weeks and my MO and nurses say I will have no issues. I don't quite believe that after reading this site

  • Leslie2016
    Leslie2016 Member Posts: 316
    edited April 2017

    Plantchild, I have now had 2 herceptin infusions alone, without chemo. Other than the fact that I know they will monitor my heart for the duration, I am having no side effects from the herceptin that I can ascertain. My chemo side effects are leaving, my hair is starting to grow and my radiation is half way done with minimal side effects so far. Nothing I am experiencing can I blame on the herceptin. :)

  • plantchild
    plantchild Member Posts: 37
    edited April 2017

    Leslie2016 thanks for the reply. Do you get nuelasta after herceptin? I opened up a letter from my insurance company yesterday stating that I have been approved for nuelasta again?!?? I am kinda confused as I was told all I would get is some benadryl with the herceptin and that is it....

  • BellasMomToo
    BellasMomToo Member Posts: 305
    edited April 2017

    Hi plantchild, I have had two herceptin only infusions. No SEs that I can attibute to herceptin -- I recently started taking blood thinners and any discomfort/weirdness I have I blame the blood thinners. I'm not given anything else besides herceptin (no benadryl).

    Herceptin shouldn't affect your WBC so I don't know why you would need Neulasta??? Strange.

  • Pamela23
    Pamela23 Member Posts: 510
    edited April 2017

    I posted this on our FB page if you are a member, but if not I thought I'd share--Throughout this journey, I never mentioned what I was going through on Facebook. My family and my community knew about it but never really knew how to put it 'out there'. On Monday when I finished rads, I decided to address it to my FB world. Thought I'd share because I think most of you will relate to what I wrote. This is what I posted:

    How many times have you had the opportunity to say you are proud of yourself? I mean REALLY proud, like "you are AMAZING" proud? Well that's how I feel today after finishing my LAST breast cancer treatment. I have spent the past 6 months enduring surgery, chemotherapy and radiation. I ventured on this journey helpless and scared. Now I've come through on the other side ready to kick some ass. I've learned so much along the way--who my support system is, how amazing my community is, how sometimes the people we expect to be there aren't, and the people you wouldn't expect show up at just the right time to lift your spirit. I am a better person than I was before this adventure. I am a more empathetic person, I have learned to openly share how I feel and show my appreciation more easily, I have also learned that sometimes the smallest gestures can make the biggest difference and I've been paying it forward. I have learned to be patient with myself as I'm still trying to trust my body that betrayed me. I am more grateful for the mundane things in life, I am thankful for what I have and know that somewhere someone else has it much worse than I do. Most of all, I have learned what I'm made of. I am strong, I am a fighter and after what I endured, I'm feeling pretty badass!!

  • plantchild
    plantchild Member Posts: 37
    edited April 2017

    Bellasmom.... I found out I don't need Nuelasta (thank goodness I was not fond of that shot). I had my herceptin on Tuesday and felt fine the past two days except for a sore throat (but I think that is because it is cold wet and rainy here). They did give me 50 mg of benadryl before the herceptin....and it made me feel like I was drunk.....room was spinning.... nauseous ....it was horrible.....not sure why I got such a high dose....I would get 25mg before my big chemo treatments and it would make me a little goffy but this was way worse!

    SOOOO the big question now for me is tamoxifen....dr wants me to start right away. My recurrence rate is 20 percent if I take the pill it drops to 10....I am going to start Monday but am a little worried about the se's.......anyones thoughts would be great. Thanks!

  • Pamela23
    Pamela23 Member Posts: 510
    edited April 2017

    Plantchild-- I didn't know ER- woman were given tamoxifen. How does that work?

  • plantchild
    plantchild Member Posts: 37
    edited April 2017

    Pamela23.....my thoughts exactly! I asked my Dr about this exact thing and he said to take it because of my Pr+ (which is low) .....

  • plantchild
    plantchild Member Posts: 37
    edited April 2017

    Pamela23....so you questioning this made me think I should research more....

    Good ole google lol!

    here is one study I found.....going to keep looking

    Results

    The 5-year overall survival (85%) was better in women under the age of 50 years. Patients with ER+/PR+ tumors had a better 5-year survival rate (94%); those with ER-/PR- tumors experienced the worst outcome (74% survival rate); whereas single-positive cases were in between. In 97 out of 128 patients with ER-/PR+ tumors, tamoxifen was given as adjuvant hormonal therapy, and it increased the survival benefit in the lower grade group in terms of overall survival and disease-free survival (p=0.01 and p=0.03, respectively).

    Conclusion

    For high-grade tumors with ER-/PR+, adjuvant tamoxifen therapy may have no survival benefit, whereas for the patients with low-grade ER-/PR+ tumors, adjuvant tamoxifen therapy is highly suggestive.e is one study

  • BG46TN
    BG46TN Member Posts: 286
    edited April 2017

    That is interesting Plantchild! I hope you get good results with it...I wish I had some sort of "drug" to take for a while to make me feel like I had some type of insurance policy kwim?? being triple neg sucks in that regard....

    My surgery is 9 days away...and my no sleep nights are starting already..I woke up at 4:30 am this morning and wasn't able to fall back to sleep...once my mind starts thinking about surgery, and all the stuff I need to do around the house before I am unable to do anything for a few weeks....ugh!!

    Thank Goodness spring break starts after work (school) today! We have a few fun things planned for the week but mostly I feel like I did back when I was pregnant LOL I"m nesting all over! I have a list of things I need to clean and get organized before surgery!

    Anyone else nest before surgery? LOL

  • aterry
    aterry Member Posts: 290
    edited April 2017

    BG46TN, I'm sorry you're not sleeping--maybe sleep will improve during the break. I understand how the stress of the upcoming surgery could interrupt your sleep cycle. I'm not nesting. A friend gave me a pair of socks with cute illustrations and text: "I dreamed my whole house was clean". The SE's from Taxol are not diminishing as quickly as I'd hoped. Maybe a 10% improvement for some SEs but over all it feels like just another week of chemo. My feet/toes have not improved and chemo brain is still an issue. I'm hungry all the time and I'm eating more so you'd think my energy level would improve but I'm actually more tired. So I don't have the energy to do much. I certainly hope this turns around before surgery.

    Plantchild, the reduction from 20% to 10% is really worth going for.

  • Leslie2016
    Leslie2016 Member Posts: 316
    edited April 2017

    Sorry, wasn't here for a bit plantchild. Nope, no neulasta while on herceptin

  • BellasMomToo
    BellasMomToo Member Posts: 305
    edited April 2017

    I had my UMX and SNB on 3/27. I got the path report from my surgeon. I did not achieve pCR, but the tumor shrunk from 2.5 cm to 1 - 4 mm. (My surgeon said that what was left looked like swiss cheese.) My MO said that there were no active cancer cells, so no additional chemo. My SNB was negative. I don't need radiation. I will continue on herceptin till the end of October. I will have periodic follow-ups with my MO, and (annual?) mammograms for my remaining breast.

    So I am now 'cancer free'. I am happy, but I can't help but be wary.


  • Hopfull2
    Hopfull2 Member Posts: 418
    edited April 2017

    bellasmom, congrats on your oath report. Hope you recover well.

  • amw5
    amw5 Member Posts: 189
    edited April 2017

    Hi ladies. I hope everyone is doing ok.

  • aterry
    aterry Member Posts: 290
    edited April 2017

    Bellasmom, congratulations on your path report. Of course you're still wary. I think wariness will be a constant but I'm glad you're able to get past it to the happiness.

    The full report from my MRI was posted on My Chart and it confirms that the tumor is not visible. There is a phrase I don't understand, though: "There is precontrast T1 hyperintensity within the ducts,
    consistent with hemorrhagic or proteinaceous debris within the ducts." Does anyone know what that means? I may have to call the MO or surgeon. I'll be too nervous on surgery day to remember the phrase.

    My recovery from chemo is still slower than I'd hoped. Today my brain is foggy again and I struggle to think straight. Most of the numbness is still present--face, feet, hands. Does anyone know if the nerves in the affected tissues need to regrow? or do they repair? Either way, it is slow.

  • javamama
    javamama Member Posts: 119
    edited April 2017

    a terry- the nerves repair themselves. It takes a while.

    Still having some intermittent neuropathy in my feet. Hair is growing back rapidly. Both on my head and eyes. I've down 3 weeks of radiation with 2 more to go. Hoping to start hormone suppression shortly thereafter. Then not think about cancer of the next five years. Oh, I'll do my follow ups. And I still have surgery and stuff. But once I can put it behind me, I will put it behind me and only think about it when I go in for my cancer appointments.

    Seriously. Once I got my port out, I've been sleeping like a trooper. No more guarding the right side because I didn't want to mess up the port and bleed out. No more guarding the left side, because well, my flap is BEAUTIFUL and thriving and I can roll all up on it and nothing hurts or twinges or anything. Well, other than my radiation chest pain. lol

    I'm sorry I've haven't been more active on the forum. I've been participating in our FB group. But now that I am coming out of feeling like crap from chemo, I think I can do both more frequently. At least, it FEELS like I have a shitton of energy.

  • BG46TN
    BG46TN Member Posts: 286
    edited April 2017

    Glad everyone is doing well!! I am having my double mastectomy tomorrow!! ack! I'm nervous but trying to remain calm and get through this...I'm not even scared of the pain, I'm more nervous about the anesthesia....ugh....

    I will update when I can! Say a few prayers for me!

  • Pamela23
    Pamela23 Member Posts: 510
    edited April 2017

    I hear you Becky, after my lumpectomy, I felt nauseous and at least made it home before throwing up. someone said a patch behind the ear, I think the one you use for motion sickness, helps. Is that what you are afraid of? I also as given something beforehand when I told them I was nervous and it was amazingly calming..like buzzed, laid back awesome. Just can't remember what it was. Valium?

  • rlk58
    rlk58 Member Posts: 155
    edited April 2017

    I was nervous about anesthesia as well.I had a mastectomy on March 22nd.The only think I remember before the anesthesia is the nurse anesthetist asking what kind of drink I liked and I answered marguerita.She said I am going to give you two margueritas and that was it. Not as much pain as I thought it would be either.Sending Prayers and good wishes to you.

    Rhond

  • BG46TN
    BG46TN Member Posts: 286
    edited April 2017

    hi everyone, had my bilateral mastectomy Monday, I stayed 1 night, could have stayed 2 but my back was killing me in the hospital bed...So I went home, I was in a lot of pain, the meds in the hospital didn't really do much, the ones they prescribed for home worked much better. Actually the muscle relaxers they gave me help the most! ...I've been sleeping in a recliner in the living room all week, uncomfortable, some pain and lots of tightness across my chest..Ugh I'm not enjoying this part at all. I think I just had no idea what all this would feel like..I can't do anything, I feel like I have a metal band wrapped tight aroundthe top of my chest, it sucks.....I'm getting sick of sitting around but get tired after 5 minutes of being up and moving around....This is why I haven't been on here all week, been feeling down....I hope I start to feel better and more optimistic about all this.

    Surgeon called yesterday to see how I was feeling, she said they got pathology back...Left (good side) was clear, righthad clear margins, Lymph nodes all clear, but there was still a 1.6cm that still had cancer :-( we were hoping for a complete response but nope....So I'm sure my oncologist will put me on Xeloda now...which he had said they would do if I had residual cancer...Sucks!!! I'm trying to be happy about the clear nodes and margins but it's hard....cancer sucks!

  • SuprSurvivr
    SuprSurvivr Member Posts: 139
    edited April 2017

    BG46TN, that's great about the clear nodes and good margins! Cancer completely sucks, so I am sorry you didn't get a complete response. I'm getting ready to start Xeloda myself for the same reason. Just FYI, there is a Xeloda for TN board that is really helpful. I hope we can give each other support as we go thru the next round in our fights! Take care and God bless!

  • Hopfull2
    Hopfull2 Member Posts: 418
    edited April 2017

    BG46TN, hope you have a quick recovery.

  • Lordhelpmetoo
    Lordhelpmetoo Member Posts: 197
    edited April 2017

    BG, how long after chemo did you have surgery? I'm having surgery a little over 4 weeks after my last infusion. Wondering if it's dosble

  • BG46TN
    BG46TN Member Posts: 286
    edited May 2017

    I had my surgery 3 weeks after I finished chemo, its definitely doable....I knew that I always felt good by 3 weeks after...

    good luck!!

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