April 2017 Surgery

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Hope88
Hope88 Member Posts: 55

Hello All,

I didn't see an April surgery group so I figured I would start one.

My surgery date will most likely be early April. I had chemo first to shrink my large tumor. I responded pretty well to chemo and the tumor shrunk quite a lot, but possibly not enough for a lumpectomy. I was leaning toward a BMX anyway so I chose that option. My surgeon said it was a good choice since he was skeptical about the feasibility of a lumpectomy.

I am planning on having the Diep reconstruction, but of course I am nervous about the pain and recovery. Because the size of my original tumor was over 5 cm, they say I must have radiation. So this will delay my reconstruction. I feel as if this nightmare will never be over. Surgery, recovery around 3 weeks, Rads for 6 weeks, heal from that about 3 months, then reconstruction, recovery over 6 weeks....then finished?? I hope so!

Yes, I am venting a bit, but thanks to all of you we have a forum for this.

Ok, April surgery sisters....let me hear from you!

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  • cjs9473
    cjs9473 Member Posts: 37
    edited March 2017

    Hi, Hope88 -

    I'm sorry you will need two surgeries. I too will most likely have my surgery in April (finished last chemo for triple positive on March 2.) I see the general surgeon tomorrow. I'm having a bilateral mastectomy with immediate reconstruction. I'm sort of freaking out because my friend at work told me today about someone who had a really bad time with the plastic surgeon who worked with my general surgeon at the time (infection, he didn't listen to her when she said something was wrong, etc.), so I'm trying to find out if it is the same plastic surgeon who is doing my reconstruction. I've had several surgeries by the general surgeon, and he is wonderful, so I know I definitely want him to do the mastectomy. I don't know what I'll do if the plastic surgeon is the same one she had problems with. It could turn out that it was an isolated incident, but it still makes me nervous. I really don't think my surgeon would work with an incompetent plastic surgeon. I met the plastic surgeon last week and he was a character, but I liked him.

    So there's my venting! I wish you the best with everything.

  • BG46TN
    BG46TN Member Posts: 286
    edited March 2017

    Hi guys! I'll be joining you with surgery in April also! I have one more chemo (1 week from today yay!) I should find out my surgery date this friday when I meet with my breast surgeon. I am having a BMX, with expanders...then radiation (after the expanders are full) then implants (6 months after rads end) ugh...I agree with you Hope that its a neverending process!!

    I will also be getting my ovaries out at some point during all this..probably in the summer. I am triple negative and have the BARD1 gene mutation.

    I have been lurking in the March surgery board to get an idea of how I will feel after surgery, and what to expect, bring, prepare for at home.

    I look forward to getting to know everyone!

  • Hope88
    Hope88 Member Posts: 55
    edited March 2017

    Hello Ladies,

    CJS, you should definitely find out if it is the same PS. We have enough things to worry about than to worry about an incompetent doctor. Do you have a nurse navigator? Perhaps if so you can ask her. If I want to know something I just ask; it must be the teacher in me! I hope you get a definite answer soon.

    BG, welcome! We are in the November chemo group together. This is another stage in our long journey. I didn't realize you were going to need radiation as well. I called today to confirm that I had to have it since my tumor shrunk, but I was told that yes, I need it. Oh well, bring on the multiple surgeries. I meet with my PS for the first time tomorrow. I will find out the specifics of my reconstruction.

    Hopefully I will get my surgery date this week. I have so much to do in order to prepare.

    Have a great night all


  • BG46TN
    BG46TN Member Posts: 286
    edited March 2017

    HI Hope....I knew you were in Nov too!! LOL are you in the FB group also? I have no idea what anyones BCO names are anymore LOL

    My MO and RO said that I am on the "borderline" of needing radiation. But he also said that they now believe radiation can help prevent recurrence even 10 years down the road! He recommends it for everyone now....he told me Friday that "its the best 6 week investment you can make in your life" (I was complaining a little about how I have to drive an hour there and an hour home for it, each day ugh) I still dread it but I totally understand why he wants me to have it...

    He said they used to not require it for people who have a double mastectomy, tumor smaller then 5cm and no lymphnodes involoved (all of which I am) but things have changed in recent years....so I will do it (maybe not so happily most days lol) but will do whatever it takes to keep this cancer away! :-)

  • Hanging_in_there
    Hanging_in_there Member Posts: 226
    edited March 2017

    Hi All,

    I was hoping someone would start an April surgery group. Thank you Hope88.

    I have surgery scheduled for April 26. I finished Chemo on March 13. I guess one has a 4-6 week window for surgery. Four weeks is in the middle of spring break for my child and we had scheduled a vacation (back before I knew I had cancer). I told the surgeon I could skip Moab and make the vacation shorter (so I could be home the whole previous week). She said "You don't want to miss Moab, we'll schedule for the last week of April." So I'm really excited to be able to go on vacation with my family right before surgery. When I had my treatment plan day back in November, the nurse said, don't cancel, things just might work out with the timing.

    So right now I'm scheduled for a right mastectomy with a tissue extender to leave me some options. I just found out yesterday from the latest plastic surgeon, that he says I don't have enough belly for even one Diep procedure, which is why I scheduled just for the right breast. Another one said I might have enough, but looking at the lines he drew on my belly, I couldn't see how that would work. I don't have any belly rolls and if the surgeon took that much tissue, I would be bending over. So I agree with this latest surgeon. And I can't get the surgery that uses the inner thigh, not enough fat. I won't do the surgery that uses the butt (too extensive). So I found out yesterday the only autologous surgery available to me is Lat. Dorsi. I don't think I want to take away my back muscles.

    I've got to say that I'm really angry at my lack of options, when others have the body type to get those options. I consider myself fat, (I need to lose another 20 lbs), but the plastic surgeon doesn't think I'm fat even though I have an overweight BMI. I have lots of muscle, so where other people have a little muscle and enough fat on their inner thighs or belly, I have lots of muscle and a little fat. I have lots of fat on my outer thigh, but that is not a place they take tissue from.

    I won't know if I will have radiation on my breast until after surgery/pathology, so I decided to do the tissue extender to give me the option of an implant. Or I could just remove the TE and and get a prothesis, which I might do. I'm starting to get comfortable with the idea of a prothesis, but putting in the tissue extender gives me an option which does not require me to take my back muscles away. I will definitely have radiation on my lymph nodes.

    Sorry to be so long winded. Since I just heard that I couldn't have Diep yesterday, I'm still reeling from that. But celebrating that my family can go on vacation to southern Utah

  • Hope88
    Hope88 Member Posts: 55
    edited March 2017

    BG, no I am not in the Facebook group. I am not on FB much, so I wouldn't benefit from it much. I am glad to hear about the benefits of radiation. Secretly I was also bemoaning having to have it. Now I feel bad complaining since I only live about 20 min. from my radiation center. I feel for you having to travel an hour for treatment. Will you get radiation in the summer so that you don't have to work? I will still be in school for my six weeks of radiation. Do you have a surgery date yet?

    Hangin, welcome to the group! Feel free to vent. I am so sorry that you can't get the reconstruction you want. With all that we have went through at least we should get some choices. I am glad that you will get to spend some fun time with your family. I saw my PS for the first time today. I unfortunately (or fortunately) have enough fat for the Diep reconstruction. Since I will have a BMX, I will probably be a bit smaller than originally, but I am fine with that. My PS told me that if he needs to he can do liposuction....yikes...lol. I don't consider myself that overweight but I guess I fall into that category of mostly fat vs muscle.

    So, I will not be getting TE's for my reconstruction and it will be delayed due to radiation. I should get my surgery date tomorrow, but the nurse thinks it will be in the first week of April.

    Good thoughts to all of you

  • BG46TN
    BG46TN Member Posts: 286
    edited March 2017

    Ha ha Hope! Don't feel bad...I just live far away from a lot of things....I have to drive 25 min for my chemos and the closest hospital too...

    I'm a teacher and I"m not sure if I'll be in school when radiation starts, I might be....I know my RO said I can't start rads until my expanders are totally full....so I'm not sure how long after surgery that takes? I'm hoping I can start rads in June sometime and only go into my summer vacation a few weeks (so I get to enjoy it and not be driving 2 hours a day instead ugh) so we'll see....

    Hangingin sorry you can't get the surgery you were hoping for...I'm sure I probably have enough fat for those surgeries LOL but my MO and RO both agreed that implants were the best way to go...they felt that they get the best results (long term) from them opposed to using your own body fat etc....and I"m ok with that, since I really don't want a bigger, longer, more detailed surgery anyway LOL (I've never had surgery before so Im a little nervous to begin with)

  • Hanging_in_there
    Hanging_in_there Member Posts: 226
    edited March 2017

    Thanks for "listening" to me rant. I've got to tell you until about 2 weeks ago, I had no idea that most/many women have rolls of fat on their bellies. I asked some acquaintances to show me their bellies, even a pretty in shape woman, had rolls on her belly. This really opened my eyes for the first time in my life. I did not give birth (we adopted). And I never could understand why all those garments (pantyhose, and bathing suits) had tummy control built in. And I never understood all those advertisements for workout videos or articles in women's magazines which showed you how to get rid of your belly fat. I thought how can you get rid of that small area of the abdomen that is convex, even models are not perfectly flat in their abdomens. So I feel so naive being as old as I am (old) and not knowing this. Feel free to laugh at me and my lack of knowledge. I think I'm fat everywhere except my belly.

    Anyway those tummy control garments are really working ladies, because I did not know you had rolls of fat on your belly.

    I don't think I want to go to the extent that Tina Fey did on the Letterman show to get my fat thighs to behave.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rd4LI5MP17o

  • cjs9473
    cjs9473 Member Posts: 37
    edited March 2017

    I will be having my surgery on April 10th. I just called the plastic surgeon's office to ask about what type of implant they ordered for me since the report about textured implants and a rare form of lymphoma associated with them just came out. They are texting the plastic surgeon to find out whether it's textured or not. One story I read said that they found most cases involved Alergan brand implants. The brand they ordered for me is Sientra. I know that the chances are low to develop the lymphoma, but I would decrease the chances more by having a smooth implant.

  • BG46TN
    BG46TN Member Posts: 286
    edited March 2017

    I didn't know that about the implants! I'll have to ask my PS also!!

  • Hanging_in_there
    Hanging_in_there Member Posts: 226
    edited March 2017

    Wow BG46TN, I just saw you started following the March surgery group in February. You are so smart and good at planning ahead. I just today thought of reading that group. I wish I could see further than the nose on my face when it comes to breast cancer. I had to be through with chemo to even start thinking about surgery.


  • cjs9473
    cjs9473 Member Posts: 37
    edited March 2017

    I got a call back from PS office. They stated that the cases seem to point to a specific brand, which I think is Allergan because that is the one I read about. From what I can tell, the Sientra brand is highly-rated, so I'm glad that is what I am getting.

  • Logang
    Logang Member Posts: 421
    edited March 2017

    Figured I would join you guys. My exchange surgery is scheduled for April 10th.

  • buffyjc
    buffyjc Member Posts: 61
    edited March 2017

    Hi ladies! My surgery date isn't scheduled yet but I feel it'll likely be in April (UMX with immediate TE). Nothing cosmetically on the good side yet. PS said I only need an implant (no lift as my breasts are of a good shape with no drooping) on the good side when we do the exchange surgery.

    Anyway, I just wanted to pop in and try to get acquainted with the April surgery ladies. :)


  • Hanging_in_there
    Hanging_in_there Member Posts: 226
    edited March 2017

    Can someone tell me what exchange surgery is? I'm new to the whole surgery thing and only recently considered implants. I'm getting unilateral mastectomy with tissue extender and from there I will decide what to do. (Take it out and go with prosthesis or get implant)

  • DawnLee
    DawnLee Member Posts: 19
    edited March 2017

    Hi Ladies,


    Hope, I kept waiting for someone to start an April group, and never saw one, so I started one last night.....then of course found this one, lol.

    My name is Dawn Lee, and I'm scheduled for BMX and immediate DIEP at NOLA April 6th. I'm scrambling right now to get the house ready for my return on April 14th, get the kids ahead a bit in homeschool, and get everything that I've read I'll need at NOLA and when I get home. This board has been my life raft. I'm so grateful for so many women sharing their experiences and tips.

  • Warrior2016
    Warrior2016 Member Posts: 59
    edited March 2017

    I think I'm in panic mode right now! I have a very aggressive (100% replicity) and triple negative breast cancer that seems to be localized to my left breast. I just completed (as much as I could do) 5 months of chemotherapy. We tried to get a last session in on March 17th and my blood counts and platelets were still too low so they called chemo. My projected surgery date was April 20th but they moved it up to April 6th since the date of my last chemo changed. I was given a choice of lumpectomy and radiation or a mastectomy. I chose a bilateral mastectomy without reconstruction because I am fearful of radiation. My cancer is on the left breast and I am fearful of the residual radiation into the heart and lungs. I am 65, have no heart problems, but have asymptomatic emphysema in all 5 lobes of my lungs. I have no breathing problems and this was found quite by accident but the problem is the radiation can change my lack of symptoms. Now I am rethinking my decision - thus, my panic mode. Lumpectomy is less invasive, I could still have radiation with the mastectomy, should I just have my left breast removed and not my right? (I have a friend who had 1 breast removed and hates the "off balance" feeling she has even with the prosthesis.) I have researched all my options, talked to breast cancer survivors who have been through this, and consulted with doctors. This week I will meet with another radiation oncologist. It seems everyone I talk to says get the mastectomy, be done with it, and you won't live with the fear of radiation. If I talk to a doctor, however, none of them will validate or negate my concerns; none of them will help me make the choice. Obviously, I have trouble making decisions. To add to all of this, my 4.1 cm tumor disappeared during chemo, which is a good thing, but they did find an area of cancer in a breast MRI last week. Yesterday I found a new lump in the same quadrant but still a different area. It's only about the size of a grape, but it is definitely there! I will see my doctor Tuesday - apparently this is not a surprise because of how fast growing this cancer is. (My original tumor grew from 2.3 cm to 4.1 cm in 3 weeks.)

    I know I can't ask any of you to make my decision for me but as you are the ones living this right now so I thought maybe you could offer some words of wisdom.

    Wishing you all the best and I will be sending positive thoughts and energy your way as you progress in your battle to win, too!


  • jbdayton
    jbdayton Member Posts: 700
    edited March 2017

    Hanging in there. I would contact the surgery groups in NOLA (www.breastcenter.com) and PRMA (www.prma-enhance.com) for phone consultations on flap surgeries. They are geniuses at making the surgery possible. I have seen many ladies that were told they did not have enough tissue to do flaps get positive results from these team of doctors.

    Take the time needed to get all your options. I wish I had been more diligent before selecting my first PS. I finally went to PRMA for my 6th revision and am now happy with my final results. These doctors will be brutally honest and explain what Is possible and what is not. I had some issues that they told me upfront could not be fixed and one procedure I would have a 50% chance of fixing. I think I got the positive 50%, only time willtell.

    Good luck.

  • jbdayton
    jbdayton Member Posts: 700
    edited March 2017

    warrior2016. I did neo-adjuvant chemo as well. I decided on a bi-lateral mastectomy thinking I could avoid radiation. My pathology came back showing very little tumor left and inactive but some residual DCIS was found. Because of that and the original location of my tumor being very close to the chest wall it was highly recommended to do radiation. I know it is scary when it is your left side but my RO explained in detail the very minimal scatter radiation to hit the heart or upper lungs if they get the angles right. She even showed me the paths of radiation after all my mapping was done. It had been 31/2 years and I am feeling great.

    Good luck with your decisions.

  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited March 2017

    Hi Warrior, and welcome to Breastcancer.org!

    We're sorry you have to be here, struggling with these decisions, but as you can already see, you've definitely come to the best place for support, advice, and information! Our Community is chock-full of ever-helpful members and they're sure to help advise you to make the best decision for YOU.

    You may also want to start your own thread in the Surgery forum, where others can weigh in on your situation. These monthly treatment threads seem to move pretty quickly, and your post may get lost. If you have your own thread, your situation will stay on topic.

    We hope this helps and we look forward to hearing more from you soon!

    --The Mo

  • Hanging_in_there
    Hanging_in_there Member Posts: 226
    edited March 2017

    Thank you jbdayton, I'll look at those websites. But when the surgeon drew on my belly after 2 days I didn't think I could have that much tissue removed and be comfortable with it. I would post a picture of my belly, but I'm not sure I want pics of my belly online. The marks go from above my belly button to just above my pubic hair. There are no rolls and he would be taking my skin with a thin layer of fat under it. (I have small breasts, so it is not like he is creating a C or D cup.

  • Hope88
    Hope88 Member Posts: 55
    edited March 2017

    Hey Ladies,

    It's been a hectic few days. I finally got my surgery date and it is April 6th.

    Welcome Dawn and Warrior! It seems like we have the same surgery date. Now that I have it, I can start getting all of the things prepared. Dawn, I feel for you having young children. My children are in college, but it is still a stressful time for us all.

    Warrior, I am so sorry that you are panicking. I also struggled with making the decision of a lumpectomy vs. a mastectomy. I kept going back and forth too. I asked my MO, nurse practitioner, PA etc. too and asked what they would tell their mother, sister, daughter. I got different responses, but ultimately it was up to me. No one can tell you what to do. You have to make a decision and then try to live with it. If you believe in God, pray about it, I would. Even though I kind of wanted my surgeon to make the choice for me (my tumor did not shrink completely away) when the time came, he said, "What do you want to do?" Since I was leaning to a mastectomy, I went for it. My surgeon said it was a good decision. I have to have radiation, no choice. My tumor is also on the left side, but my RO assured me that it would be fine. I feel good about my decision. I hope you can make a decision and have peace with it.

    Hangin, do you have any extra fat on your back or backside (butt...lol)? I believe an exchange surgery is when you get the tissue expanders out and exchange them for the permanent implants. If you are getting the Diep or another type of tissue reconstruction, the exchange is that surgery if you had TE's. Ladies, please pipe in if I got that wrong.

    Welcome Buffy and Logang! Buffy, now I am jealous of your non drooping breasts. Lol.

    CJ, glad to hear your implants are good ones.

    We can do this!!! Stay strong and have faith. 😇

  • lrwells50
    lrwells50 Member Posts: 254
    edited March 2017

    I had a 7 mm invasive ducal carcinoma diagnosed on 12/5, and had the option of a lumpectomy and radiation, but decided on BMX. My mother had BC twice, and although the chance of my developing BC in the other breast was low, I decided against the lumpectomy. I'm 66, and was a 40G, and the surgeon recommended against a mastectomy of just the affected breast, and I agreed. I read a lot of blogs, and the people who seemed to complain the most were the ones with prosthetics, complaining mostly about the heat. Since I live in Texas, that resonated with me. I had my BMX with tissue expander on 3/8, and went home the next day. I haven't had any pain that was unbearable, and haven't taken any pain meds during the day since the first week. I still take a pill before I go to sleep, because it's uncomfortable enough added to the fact that I have to sleep on my back that I can't get to sleep without it.

    My PS wanted to do tissue expanders and use the latissimus dorsi, but I didn't want to do that, so he agreed to just implants. He said the lat tissue was needed for a satisfactory result, but I had considered no reconstruction at all, and I'm not at a place in my life where perfect looking breasts are important to me. In fact, I'm just glad to get rid of the dents on my shoulders, and neck pain that accompany breasts the size mine were.

    Unless I have misunderstood something, I don't have to have radiation like some of you. I go to the MO tomorrow and will find out what else I might have to do.

    Warrior, having two parents and an in-law that died due to complications from emphysema and COPD, I would avoid the radiation as well if it could cause problems with your emphysema

  • Warrior2016
    Warrior2016 Member Posts: 59
    edited March 2017

    Thank you, Hope88, Jbdayton, and Irwells50! This decision is weighing on my mind constantly - I thought I had made it, then I panicked, and now I am panicking over this new lump. The good thing is I was able to have a half a glass of wine last night! That was the first since October since the chemo made me nauseous 24/7. Nothing better than a glass of wine and talking to a friend.

    I value your experiences the most as we are not all text book cases.

  • Hanging_in_there
    Hanging_in_there Member Posts: 226
    edited March 2017

    Hi Hope88.

    I could do Lat. Dorsi, but I don't want to give my back muscles for the sake of a breast. My other choice is GAP (butt) http://www.breastcancer.org/treatment/surgery/reco...

    This comparison shows the GAP flap, which is the butt, 9-12 hours: This is the caution about the surgery:

    "Long operation with risk of more complications; higher risk of tissue breakdown; can be done only by a plastic surgeon skilled in microsurgery techniques; can cause fat necrosis; could delay radiation and chemotherapy; usually causes some pain and discomfort while sitting "

    They do one butt cheek at a time (most places) and then you have more surgery. It seems too risky for me.

    But I do have enough fat there.

    I think it is all about how much you want breast recon and how much risk and surgery you are willing to put up with.

  • Logang
    Logang Member Posts: 421
    edited March 2017

    Thanks for the welcome! I have my preop appointment on Wednesday. Ready to get this next step over with. This will be my 3rd surgery since diagnosis.

    Hanging in there: Exchange surgery is swapping the tissue expanders with implants. =)

  • cjs9473
    cjs9473 Member Posts: 37
    edited March 2017

    BG46TN, did you ask your PS about the implants? I'm curious what their opinion is about the study. I'm still agonizing over whether I want to take the risk with implants. I know the worst thing to do is Google, but there are so many articles with conflicting information, I don't know what to think!

  • buffyjc
    buffyjc Member Posts: 61
    edited March 2017

    Hi ladies! I need to read through all the posts and catch up! I just talked to my BS and have a surgery date set of 4/12. Hoping my anxiety doesn't get the best of me for the next couple of weeks!


  • cjs9473
    cjs9473 Member Posts: 37
    edited March 2017

    Hi, buffyjc! What type of surgery are you having? We'll only be two days apart. I keep Ativan on hand for when I start feeling I'm jumping out of my skin, but luckily haven't had to take it too often!

  • buffyjc
    buffyjc Member Posts: 61
    edited March 2017

    Hi cjs! :)

    I'm having a UMX, w/TE added, and SLN biopsy. The PS won't be doing any work on the left side until the exchange surgery. I haven't been prescribed any meds to keep me calm and, for the most part, I've been able to keep myself together with lots of prayer and just trying to keep a positive attitude. Oddly, the thing I'm most worried about is the general anesthesia. I've never had it. In fact, this is my first surgery aside from 2 planned c-sections of which I didn't have general anesthesia. But, I worry about the silly things (blood draws, IVs, etc.) and I'm notorious for getting anxiety about new experiences and not just health related. Sorry...didn't mean to babble.

    On another note, I need to start reading and researching more about the implants. I'm leaning towards saline but I'm curious about how everyone makes that decision...what are your pros and cons for each?

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