Anybody else starting chemo march 1st 2017 TCx4
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Hi Badger
Your comment has really helped me I am on TC aswel. On day 6 after my first treatment. Just wondering how long you would feel nausea for? I was hoping it would be going by now but my tummy is still so sensitive. Can't really stomach greasy foods or sweets. Glad to hear you are doing so well. I also have lower back pain. Which may be caused by a little constipation :-(
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Hi Colly
I went through this almost 3 years ago. From what I can remember your Oncologist is supposed to give you laxatives. You do NOT want to get constipated.. They also supposed to give you stuff for nausea and you get additional stuff in your drip so you shouldnt actually have much nausea.. just speak to your doctor. I found lots of fluids, fresh fruit and a low fat diet helped. Now is a good time to change your diet if you are someone who has enjoyed fatty and sugary foods. I personally regret chemo as it did not work for me, and I encourage people to search alternative therapies. I hope your chemo is successful. One day at a time.
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Hi everyone. Just popping over from the March 2008 chemo thread. Nine years ago I was exactly where you were now. It's like a bomb went off in your life and your whole world turned upside down, and now you're sitting around in the debris wondering what the heck just happened ?? I just wanted to let you know you can do this. Chemo is no walk in the park but it is doable. You will find that you are a lot stronger than you think you are.
I did 6*TAC treatments on a three week cycle. A day or two after chemo you'll probably be on a steroid buzz so that's not too bad. But once the steroids wear off you'll probably crash for a few days. Those are the days you lie around on the sofa and let everybody wait on you hand and foot. But after a few days of that you'll start to feel a little better. Week two is kind of a blah week and by week three you may feel pretty normal. The nearest thing I can think of to it is getting the flu. You feel really rotten for a week then you start to feel better in the next week and by the third week you're pretty much back to normal.
The antinausea drugs worked well for me and I never had any problem that way. It was just that I didn't want greasy or spicy foods and only wanted to eat bland foods.
The worst side effect I had was fatigue and that one was cumulative, meaning each treatment it got a little worse. But despite that I still worked full-time during chemo. I had a supportive boss and understanding coworkers so if I needed to take a day or days off I could. Everyone is in a different place about working or not but I was glad I did. For me it was a lifeline out of Cancer World where I could discuss normal things with normal people and not have my entire existence revolves around doctors appointments, needles, treatments, and side effects. Mentally that really helped me.
I was worried about hair loss but for me it turned out to be no big deal. I wore a wig the first few weeks then got tired of that and just wore baseball caps with dangly earrings. I was surprised at how little I cared about being bald once it actually happened.
Some of the chemo veterans that have posted here have given you excellent advice. The one thing I would stress is to exercise as much as you can. I don't mean go out and try to run a marathon. As a matter fact there may be some days when you can't do much of anything, especially on those chemo crash days. But there are other days that you might be able to manage a walk to the corner and back or maybe do a few yoga stretches or a few minutes on an elliptical. What ever you can do will help minimize side effects and help you recover faster. If you're looking for some inspiration check out the Let's Post Our Daily Exercise thread. It's under the Fitness and Getting Back in Shape section in the Day to Day Matters area of the BCO community. The thread has all kinds of regular posters from those of us who are many years past treatment to those who are just starting out with their surgeries and treatment.It's a supportive fun thread and is perfect for everybody whether you're a fitness freak or you haven't exercised in years. No matter where you are in this whole cancer mess, we've all been there we all understand what you're going through.
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I was not expecting to ever be on this thread...before Oncotype Dx test, radiation was the plan. My husband and I went to oncologist on 2/27 and we're told our scores were right in the middle.. DANG! We started two days later. It has been a rough five days, but have stayed busy with work and our high school boys ' activities. No matter how much you research and think you are aware, you just cannot be prepared. First of all, the love and outpouring of support once you admit you have cancer and tell people. The kind thoughts, words and support, not to mention the many prayers, have given us great strength and hope and I know prayers work bc I feel angels wings around me constantly...Five days out, still feeling pretty chemo sick. Like the worst hangover you've ever had but I can't take a drink to alleviate it! It just stays. Wednesday (first chemo day) was a very long day which resulted in tired mind and body, tremendously nauseous and really woozy. Plan on taking lots of photos next two weeks bc Cutting hair Monday the 13th for Locks of Love and from March 13 - 17 I will be in Montgomery Alabama for work when hair will begin to fall out! I'm glad I'll be out of my "safe" place at home when that happens. The biggest joke on me is that as testosterone driven as I am, how the heck did I succumb to an estrogen driven cancer? Lol!!!! THEN not only did the docs tell me I would lose my waist length hair but to add insult to injury, that I would gain about 30 pounds. For the last six months my boys are starving at home bc my husband is cooking for me and I eat grilled meat and roasted veggies - oh, and , oh yeah, 76.7 pounds lost (was working on 105)! And now all I want to do is NOT eat but the docs are telling me to eat food that would cause weight gain! Eating a very clean diet but gave up sugar two years ago. We have worked too hard to lose these pounds! Trying to walk every day but didn't Thursday. Too sick! Worked out Friday and Monday morning with my trainer. Then had to take nap before going into work. I'm doing Taxotere and Cytoxan (TC) every three weeks for 6 treatments then radiation. The nausea and Neuropathy pain are what I'm experiencing now. Since Saturday it's been shooting pain in tops of feet then shooting through shins to front of knees. Now that's expanded to calves and back of hips. Called doc but my oncologist wasn't on call. I just wish it wasn't so painful bc I'm not used to not being able to "suck it up" and work it out!!! I love you all for encouragement I've readon these threads before ever signing up today!!!! Any advice or suggestions for other posts to read would be greatly appreciated!!! Hugs, E 💕💕💕💕💕💕
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Hugs to you ElizaBB! We are so glad that you found us here. We are thinking of you, and really appreciate you sharing your story here with us. We are also rooting for you to not gain any weight. What an achievement!
And welcome to you, Shelley01. We are so sorry that chemo did not seem to work for you. What are you doing for treatments?
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Hi ElizaBB
Sorry that you have to be here but its a good place with lots of great people that will reach out to you . I to am doing TC and last treatment 3 of 4 was the first time I experienced the muscle spasms, sharp pains that you described. Im interested as to why the Dr said you would gain weight, I have lost over 30# since starting chemo, part of that is nerves . Each treatment has been a little different for me., but it never fails to kick my butt day 3 where I can barely get out of bed and horrible depression. I try to exercise daily which does help...I do wish you well and hope your SE get better . Huggs
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MO said that weight gain would not be permanent if I continued to exercise (i.e. no couch potato) if I limited sugar, processed foods and fats. It is my understanding that the weight usually starts to creep on after 4th treatment bc your fatigue and side effects keep your activity much lower. He also said that eating lots of healthy proteins through food was better than supplements so I force myself to eat some type of protein every three hours and eat kale, cucumbers, broccoli, cauliflower, etc., with animal protein for supper.
Honeybee, what has your doc said they can do for your depression? I'm praying for a quick recovery from that bc I know how serious that can be.
Moderators, where can I read about the ladies who have already done their treatments? Looking for timeline so I ca
n figure out my schedule. Have a senior in high school and don't want him (or my husband or me) to miss anything.....I look forward to loads of great advice! Hugs, E
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I finished TC x 4 three years ago. I used to be on here all the time. Treatment takes its toll. I feel like it aged me a lot. However, I workout regularly, have an enriching career, travel the world a lot and found a new appreciation for the important people of my life. I want you to know that you will move on. Wishing you health.
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Just did my chemo teaching and will have my first treatment on March 16th. It's tiring just reading through all of the posts about things you should and shouldn't do and things you need to have on hand. I really don't think that I can keep it all straight!! Please let me know any advice that might be helpful.
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Getting my echo, PET scan, and port placement today. Start chemo next week. Taxol x 12 and then AC x 4. Anyone else with this chemo regimen
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Eliza - you asked for timelines. Everyone is different, but if you're having treatment in 3 week cycles, based on my own experience the more you can schedule for Week 3, the better. That's when you have the best chance of being able to go through with your plans. Until you get a few cycles under your belt and have a better idea of how you personally will react, I would not plan on being able to do much of anything during Week 1. You will probably be able to do a bit more during Week 2, but I would not plan anything strenuous or tiring even for Week 2. Push what you can to Week 3 if possible.
As an example, I love going to my beloved Washington Nationals baseball games. During Week 1, I was pretty much unable to go to games because of fatigue and a general feeling of not caring much about anything. During Week 2, I could usually manage going to a game, but most times I lasted only about 4-5 innings before I'd have to leave. By Week 3, I was usually well enough to stay for all 9 innings. However, chemo made me very sensitive to heat, and on hot days during the game I used to have to go to the First Aid station (which was air conditioned) to sit for an inning or so just to cool off. One time I didn't do that and passed out from the heat, but it turned out that the usher who assisted me was a 10 year survivor so she knew exactly what was going on! We also learned other coping strategies - since I knew I only had a limited amount of energy, my DH would drop me off at the entrance then go park the car, or else we'd take the Metro subway that let us out right at the entrance. That way I didn't waste precious energy walking the 20 minutes from the parking lot to the ballpark - I could save that 20 minutes of energy and stay a bit longer at the game. You'll develop similar coping strategies for the events that are important to you.
Do what you can, but don't be surprised if you do have to miss a few things and if you have to leave other things early. That's just the way it goes with chemo - it's not something that you can just tuck neatly into the other parts of your life. It will be the defining presence in your life for a few months, and everything else will revolve around it.
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Hi again Eliza,
Yes, as NatsFan mentioned, every one's treatment timeline is different. You may however, gain some insight by going back a few months in the Chemotherapy forum to talk to members who started chemo, say, in the Fall of 2016, to check in and see how they faired and what their time frames looked like. Or, you may want to start your own thread asking for members that had your type of treatment to weigh in with their experiences.
We hope this helps and look forward to hearing more from you soon!
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Hello all, I have been lurking for a couple of months and this is my first time posting. I was just expecting radiation, but after meeting with my MO and going over pathology report, I guess I will be joining this group. I am scheduled for port and echo cardiogram on the 15th and chemo education session on the 21st. I will start chemo the same week as education session not sure which day yet.
Poodlelover, I am on the same the chemo regimen as you AC x 4 - Taxol x 12, you will start earlier, so I will be watching for your updates.
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itzmepk I will keep you posted. Port placement today was not bad. I'm a little sore but totally manageable with ibuprofen. I will do radiation after chemo, I assume you will do the same
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iztmpek and Poodlelover,
Spent a long time today posting a reply that didn't go through for some reason.
Got my port on 3/2 was sore for two days and pain on Saturday but it was manageable. I had my first dose of ddAC yesterday. Medicine prior to chemo and then at home helped me not to have many SE. Woke up with nausea but took my zofran, ate some prunes and saltines with a large bottle of water and went to work for a few hours. Ate some cheese-its and drank another large bottle of water with lemon and one cup of coffee at work. Had to go for an appointment with RO team at 1230 so work cut short. Appointment ran over and they called to push back my neulesta shot.
My nausea isn't too bad if I stay on my zofran every 6 hours. Heartburn is a little bothering, I am not used to having it. Not too tired. I would have liked to have a short nap but steroids have me awake.
I will do 4 doses every other week of the ddAC then 12 of the Taxol. So same as iztmpek but opposite of poodlelover (if I am reading correctly). So, I will follow along to see how the Taxol does for you. I will have BMX and hysterectomy (due to precancerous scare in uterus last year), then radiation, then hormone therapy. I am at 8cm and definite at least 3 nodes involved.
Carolina_girl,
I found this list extremely helpful
https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/69/topics...
I did 3 shopping trips from the above the forum list.
First I bought stuff for my chemo kit and for the house:
Chemo kits bag (put in a zip lock, travel sizes):
- mints, gum, lemon drops (your fav)
- Lotion
- Hand sanitizer
- Tissues
- Lip balm
- Feminine/baby wipes
- Binder, pocket, card holder, and dividers
Stuff for house; clorox wipes, baking soda, biotene mouth rinse, tissues, extra toothbrushes, extra thermometer (marked with my initials), baby or flusable wipes, saltines, yogurt.
Second trip I bought wigs. I was going to try to cold caps,but my insurance doesn't pay and not an expense we can afford. My grandmother knitted me some caps. I am going to get some wraps.
Third trip I went when I got my scripts for emla, steroids and nausea meds plus got these items off the list.
- MOM
- Imodium
- Prunes
- Claritin (for SE of neulesta)
- Gentle shampoo (I got one that was organic and free of dyes, SLS, petroleum, paraben, etc.)
- Gentle soap
I can tell you how I laid out my binder if you want, but don't want to overwhelm you. I have my tote with my travel chemo kit, a travel pillow, a lap blanket, book, deck of cards, large water bottle and binder that I took to my first chemo. I carry it and a small purse. But my purse has a pull out that I could put in the tote. Next time I will pack lunch. I am there for 5 hours. I get lunch but my sister or whoever goes with me doesn't and lunch at the cafe is not cheap. Plus selection is limited to processed foods. It would be nice to have some fresh.
We took the printed list from here with us each time and checked off as we went. It was nice to have the visual aid and a second pair of eyes. My husband went with me the first time and my sister the second and third.
Hope this helps and doesn't add more to the keeping it straight.
I also make an easy homemade lotion in my crockpot. I use coconut oil, grapeseed oil (can use walnut or almond instead if you prefer), and natural beeswax) 1/3 each. I cut the beeswax down a bit. Pour in molds for lotion bars or pour in containers to put in purse or in bathroom. Easy peasy.
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kbt - I am doing the taxol first then AC. Seems like most other are the other way around. Not sure why MO is doing it this way? Anyway, doing it in different order, we can let each other know what to expect! 😀
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hi all and good luck to everyone starting chemo this week.
Colly, you asked about nausea. We're all different but for me it was like how Nats so aptly described in her posts above. I took Zofran and it worked for me but there are several drugs your doc can prescribe. If one doesn't work, you can ask for something else.
kbt, that's a good list. A book was really important as tx can take hours.
Couple comments: If chemo makes you bald, you may lose ALL your body hair, including your pubic hair and the hair in your nose. You may pee sideways (pubic hair points the flow downward) and your nose will drip (no nose hair to stop it). I had those little packets of tissues stashed everywhere.
Don't be surprised if your taste buds change. I am a coffee drinker but couldn't abide it for a week after a tx. Thus the weak tea with milk & honey. I tried some packaged drink mixes for variety in hydration. They were OK but what I liked one day I didn't like the next. Was fortunate that ice-cold water tasted good to me.
Last, this saying is from one of the March 2010 chemo group. It's inactive but we got each other through a lot.
Murphy's Law of Chemo SE Management: "If you don't have something on hand, you will need it exactly when you cannot go out and get it." Corollary: "If you buy it in advance, you will end up not needing it at all."
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When my sister started chemo 3 years after me, she was slightly offended with one of the gifts I bought her,
but during chemo, she told me it was one of the best she received!
Rectal soothing wipes - any brand works! The rectal tissues are thin - bleeding and soreness OFTEN occur. It is a godsend to have these on hand before you need them and not sending someone else to the store in an emergency run!
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Haven't been on this for a few days due to having to rush to A&E Wed morning with severe stomach pains. The doc thought I was presenting with appendicitis. I thought how could I be so unlucky to have this happen just a week after my first round of TC. Turns out after lots of tests/scans my bowel is all inflamed around it from my chemotherapy. Received lots of IV antibiotics and painkillers and fluids. Got home last night from hospital. Feeling much better but still tender in the tummy. Can only eat bland foods at the moment not to upset my bowel. Oncologist now must look into how this can be avoided for my next treatment due March 22nd. Very nervous same thing will happen. Pain was indescribable.
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hi all,
Food and digestion question here. I'm a week out from my first TC chemo treatment now and wondering if I will ever be able to eat this lovely food friends and family are bringing us? Or should I plan on having diarrhea for 4 1/2 months straight?! Good gracious I want to eat lasagne and spanikopita so badly! Anything that's not a cracker! I've been watching cooking and baking shows on my most down days, (for me days 5&6) and maybe that's not the brightest move to torture myself. Other than that, just experiencing fatigue and minor SEs so I can't complain too much. I know the indigestion thing comes with the territory but just wondering how long I should expect this to go on for?
Also, amen sister to rectal wipes.
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Hi Elizabb, I just finished 6 rounds of T/C on 2/23/17. And my 6 treatments were def. doable. I have a 13 yr old and a 2 yr old and was able to keep up with them. Of course I was always out of it the first 3-4 days after treatment but it was the hangover feeling your described. The bland mouth taste and joint pain. The worse treatment was #4 but that's cuz I caught a cold. I think you will be ok for your sons graduation as long it's not within the first 4 days of treatment. Good luck to you and everyone else.
Hugs
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I have my first dose dense A/C on 03/14/17 - my port was put in about 4 days prior. It's bothering me now, and it wasn't until a day after treatment. Anyone else have this? It's not "painful" but very annoying and more like a sting and tender. Just wondering if common or if it's just the stitches healing (glue is coming off)?
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Colly, Hope your GI settles and you are able to heal!
Denise, Soothing wipes are a blessing!
Jsut9802, Let me know how you do on your ddAC, have been thinking about you and your port. I had some minor irritation and one day of "pain" with the port, but luckily it is not too bad and gets better each day.
I thought I would breeze through my "off" week, since I had my ddAC on 3/9 and had a good weekend. I am having a rough week. Weekend was able to celebrate my son's birthday and have been stopped in tracks to "rest" Monday-today. Throwing up even when not nauseous and then diarrhea back and forth. Staying on top of my meds and on schedule but after the weekend, it seems my body had other ideas and says what anti-nausea meds?
anywho hoping tomorrow and weekend is a better! Cancelled a camping trip with my scouts, other leaders going in my place.
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How are people dealing with sleeplessness from Decadron? I had my first treatment yesterday and slept 2 hours last night despite taking Ativan and melatonin before bed and Benadryl 1/2 way through the night. Anyone found anything that works
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Poodlelover, I stayed up & played games on BCO when I couldn't sleep. Thus the high post count LOL.
Sorry for all the digestive issues. It's not legal here but I know people who used marijuana and it helped.
If you can't get relief, call your doc's office. Someone should be on-call 24/7.
bratmobile, I have a friend who craved (and ate!) super-spicy food during chemo. IDK how she did it.
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Poodle......I had the same issue , could not sleep for 2 day, night straight, told the Dr and he cut back the tablets that I was taking at home . I was taking them 2x day before chemo, day of chemo and day after plus was getting them in IV before Chemo. While first night is still a little rough with not sleeping its nothing compared to what it was .
Not sleeping is horrible......I hope you get some relief
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Honey and Poodle, was following as I had same issues. Thanks for the feedback!
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I tried Trazodone for sleep last night and that helped! Not sure if it would help others - but is available by prescription from the MD and easier to tolerate (I think) than ambienor meds like that.
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port area is still not fully functional. I'd like to get back to playing volleyball (missing another week tonight) or at least working out harder at home besides walking...but it's sore the stretch even. I don't know what the heck I did to it!!! Hoping the muscle relaxes or something soon!
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Bratmobile - I had GI issues also and either couldn't go to the bathroom or was running to the bathroom every hour. The doctor had me take Pepcid and Imodium plus eat activa yogurt and bland food and it helped immensely!
Jsut9802 - my port irritated me for weeks after placement and I was running. The doctors office said the port is sewn into the chest wall so running and more strenuous exercise irritates it so now I just walk all the time outside or at the gym. The port did stop bothering me eventually and now I don't even notice it.
Hope this helps ladies!
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