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  • Patti1746
    Patti1746 Member Posts: 49
    edited February 2017

    Fightinggirl - congratulations on completing the rads. Are you done with treatment?

    Elem and Mamasha - 2 different opinions and you both make compelling arguments.

  • Elem
    Elem Member Posts: 327
    edited February 2017

    Wow Mamasha, I wish we had a crystal ball or some definitive criteria to go by . Every case is so different . Your sis' story as well as you having no hx scares me . It is a roll of the dice it seems. Oh man , just don't know what to do . I would probably feel exactly as you do though given the circumstances. Our group can still stay together. I plan on private messaging my friends with my facebook and messenger as well as my email . I love you guys too much to leave the nest!

  • Pamela23
    Pamela23 Member Posts: 510
    edited February 2017

    I don't agree with not searching the internet. You have to be your own health advocate. These drs see you 15 min per week at the most and we live with our disease and side effects 24 hrs a day. As long as you are using reputable websites and find many studies to back up claims, I think the internet is a very useful tool. My rad nurse today wondered why I was asking of Eucerine, which was one of the lotions they recommend, was paraben free. She didn't know why I was concerned with parabens. I had to tell her that studies have shown that some can mimic the activity of the hormone estrogen in the body's cells so since I have estrogen positive BC, I'm not comfortable rubbing that on my breast. How did she not know that?

    My point is, there are so many different ways of helping ourselves through traditional as well as natural and holistic ways, why not explore them all and choose whats best for us? Knowledge is power!!

  • Elem
    Elem Member Posts: 327
    edited February 2017

    Yes Pamela23, I am with you on this 100%. You points are all very valid. Also , having been with the women here who actually relate to this from living through it along side us , has been an invaluable resource and asset to my world since coming down with BC . I did not give much credence to my young RO's perspective when he said that . But basically credible internet research is a greatvtool in navigating something as serious as this is including the tx's . Knowledge is POWER.

    Hugs and love to all m'ladies

  • Mamasha
    Mamasha Member Posts: 104
    edited February 2017

    Hello ladies,

    Anyone else getting more pink? Starting to notice it today-not sore but noticeable. My tumor was at the 1:00 position and I noticed it's a little indented under the incision. Im afraid what it's going to look like after boosts. Not looking forward to full week of treatments. I like the 3 day weekend last week.

    Have a great night. Feb vacation is over so kids go to bed early!!!

  • Elem
    Elem Member Posts: 327
    edited February 2017

    nothing so far and I am hoping to remain problem free. I liked the three day weekend as well . Tomorrow will be my halfway point 10 of 20 . But not excited about appt . With MO to talk about pills ! I will be getting the bone scan on Wed. Checking for osteoporosis. Take care and have a good week 🌸💗x

  • annoyingboob
    annoyingboob Member Posts: 558
    edited February 2017

    I thought I was a shade pink after my session today, but then realized my cheecks were also bright red, so I think the room was just really hot, lol!! no true SE yet.

  • Oasis2016
    Oasis2016 Member Posts: 52
    edited February 2017

    Hi Ladies.. reporting here. Had my #2 of #25 today. So far nothing much. Doc said any problem will come after the second week. Hope everyone is doing fine. Have started on Tamoxifen too.

  • annoyingboob
    annoyingboob Member Posts: 558
    edited February 2017

    hi oasis! Keep me posted on tamoxifen - I will start in a few days! Do you take yours at night

  • Elem
    Elem Member Posts: 327
    edited February 2017

    Hi Oasis and Aboob ,

    I was told I am a liitle pink today 10of 20 so I am hoping it is not going to get bad. Aboob, have you started the tamox yet? Best wishes to every one this week 💪🏻

  • annoyingboob
    annoyingboob Member Posts: 558
    edited February 2017

    hi elem! You are halfway through, congratulations!!! I have 2 more, wed and fri, then I'll start tamoxifen fri night before bed. I hope your pinkness doesn't progress too much - time to start slathering on the calendula cream and aloe Vera!!! Good luck my sister!!

  • Mamasha
    Mamasha Member Posts: 104
    edited February 2017

    HI Elem,

    Did you see doc today or is that Wednesday? I bet you were dreading it.

    I haven't had any scans. My back has been hurting (when I sit) since the dx. When I told BS AND MO when all this was new and neither seemed to think it was anything. I mentioned to RO this week how I feel nervous that I still feel it and he said he would do a bone scan anytime. I know since being dx, I've being sitting and reading A LOT....PROBABLY TOO MUCH about BC. I'm sure the sitting around all day and bad posture and now the hard rad table hasn't helped my back but I do worry what if.....though I'm too nervous to actually get the scan to find out.

    I am going to try the massage the hospital has avaliable for patients at the fabulous rate of $56 for a hour. Tried the free 15 minute sample masage today.

    Hope everyone had a quick treatment today....just think one day closer to finishing.

  • Elem
    Elem Member Posts: 327
    edited March 2017

    Thanks Annoyingb and Mamasha ,

    Yes halfway through and feeling good about that. I see the RO during my tx's every Tues. today on the skin check he noted a little pink which is normal 2 weeks in he said. Just hoping it is not going to progress to burn or anything more. I should not anticipate what hasn't happened ! Lol The bone scan was ordered by the MO in evaluation of my osteo condition prior to AI therapy . I am post menopausal so Tamox is not on the table for me . I have to go with aromatase inhibitors if I decide on that after rads. Ugh .. head spin! We read so much and learn so much going through this that after a while , you don't know if you're coming or going! I hope your back ache starts to feel better Mamasha because it is hard enough to cope with this without additional stressors. I use this acupressure mat for tension backaches and it is for stress relief . But it is spikey and has to be used bare back . But for me it works wonders . If I have knotted back pressure i use a back buddy on pressure points and press , hold and release techniques. It helps too. Wishing you all a wonderful evening .. tomorrow bone scan and rads! Love you all

  • annoyingboob
    annoyingboob Member Posts: 558
    edited March 2017

    I can imagine getting back pain - my arms are always sore for a bit after im done just from holding them above my head so long. take care of yourselves ladies - only a few more weeks, and you got this!! don't get your head in a spin. digest all the new info slowly. its a lot to process. just do what you feel is right for you. sending lots of love,

    ab

  • Mamasha
    Mamasha Member Posts: 104
    edited March 2017

    ab,

    I know you are finishing your rads this week. Lucky you!!!! Do you get boost, too?


  • annoyingboob
    annoyingboob Member Posts: 558
    edited March 2017

    I did a weird relatively new thing - accelerated partial breast irradiation, called apbi, using something called intensity modulated radiotherapy, or imrt, so it was just 5 sessions which were technically all boost, since only the operative bed was zapped, not the entire breast. a study from last year showed same 5 year results as whole breast in terms of recurrence, but tolerated better with less SE than whole breast. useful for dcis and stage 1 I believe.

    but , since entire breast wasn't zapped, RO wants to make sure I take the tamoxifen to get extra protective effect. so last rads is fri, then ill start tamox fri night. im sooo hoping im one of the lucky ones that tolerates it well, so the next 5 years don't turn into a barrage of more doctor appts and interventions - ive had my fill! although it was a happy surprise to go to pharmacy and not have to pay for the meds - guess ive reached my deductible!!!

  • Oasis2016
    Oasis2016 Member Posts: 52
    edited March 2017

    Annoyingb, I am taking Tamoxifen in the morning.

  • annoyingboob
    annoyingboob Member Posts: 558
    edited March 2017

    today was 4/5 and exhaustion hit me like a freight train - pow - knocked me back to bed. it might be bc my session was so early this am, but ive been so tired all day. here hoping I bounce back tomorrow after a sleep in.

    good luck all of you!!

  • misslil
    misslil Member Posts: 260
    edited March 2017

    Best wishes to all with your decisions and treatment programs. I hope it's ok to pop into your thread as I'm starting to consult about radiation now having completed chemo and surgery.

    My radiation oncologist earlier today suggested a 5-week program of external radiation done twice daily. Has anyone else done that or heard of it? I tried to look it up online (lol), and found short courses of 2x/day radiation, and long courses of 1x/day radiation. But not 2x/day for 5+ weeks so I'm a little confused.

    Because I am a peculiar case to evaluate, it will be another appointment or two before we get to a definite decision to go/no go, and if go, what program to undertake. If the final decision is to go forward, guessing the treatments will start in late March or more likely April.

  • Elem
    Elem Member Posts: 327
    edited March 2017

    I hope you get it sorted out Misslil , I am not sure about the 2xday external . I have heard of it using brachy therapy internal radiation. Please keep posting as it is a great way to learn and also a great way to meet some incredible people going through so many different treatments and choices. It is comforting to know none of us are alone . Hopefully someone will know of the type of rafs suggested forcyour situation .

  • Mamasha
    Mamasha Member Posts: 104
    edited March 2017

    had to check in before bed:)

    Ab,

    Sorry today hit u out hard.....but just think how happy you will feel Friday! !!! Go to bed eay, get your rest and have sweet dreams of being DONE this week!

    ELem,

    I ordered a acupressure mat. Thanks for the suggestion.


  • Elem
    Elem Member Posts: 327
    edited March 2017

    yay Aboob.. you are at the finish line . So happy for you. Did yoo start the tamox already? Please don't be stranger .. you are such a good friend and fellow trooper.

    Mamasha, I hope the mat will help you as much as it does me. It is so great especially for tension in my upper back area. But anywhere I put it , even on lower back and buttocks helps circulate blood to those areas. Try to use itvonly bareback . It feels pretty intense for a few minutes, but then it is awesome . Good luck


    Love and hugs

  • misslil
    misslil Member Posts: 260
    edited March 2017

    Thank you Elem. Possibly he misspoke as he was discussing several different ideas, but that seemed to be what he was recommending.

  • Ruby3813
    Ruby3813 Member Posts: 96
    edited March 2017

    Misslil - are you sure he said 5 weeks, not 5 days? I think IMRT ( Intensity-modulated radiation therapy ) is 2X day for 5 days, but I'm not positive. There are some ladies on here doing IMRT, so maybe they can pop in with their thoughts.

    I'm really hoping my radiation facility offers me the IMRT!


  • annoyingboob
    annoyingboob Member Posts: 558
    edited March 2017

    my imrt was partial breast. 5 sessions total, once a day, every other day. External beam. Easy. Last session tomorrow.

    Pyrrh and fightingirl did brachytherapy, with internal catheter, and they went twice a day for about 2 weeks, I believe. They also tolerated it well.

    I haven't heard about anyone doing twice a day for 5 weeks. That just sounds mean!!

  • nem126
    nem126 Member Posts: 109
    edited March 2017

    How is everyone doing? I am 6 treatments in, and starting to notice some pinkness on my boob

    No pain or anything... but I have over 5 weeks to go... and I'm already pink!

  • misslil
    misslil Member Posts: 260
    edited March 2017

    "Misslil - are you sure he said 5 weeks, not 5 days?"

    Yes, he definitely said 5 weeks when I asked him about duration of treatment, assuming the decision is to proceed at all.

    When he was talking about 2x or 1x daily, the context was his thinking through implications of re-irradiating this area where I was treated with radiation once before in 2008, and am now recovering from a wide excision done on top of the prior mastectomy. He was thinking 2x/daily might be easier (in terms of SEs? if I'm reading the online info correctly, it doesn't appear to be a lesser overall rad exposure).

    If 2x day for 5 weeks wasn't a garble and is what he meant, and it's not a standard protocol, perhaps it's something he was thinking to tailor since my case is unusual.

  • Oasis2016
    Oasis2016 Member Posts: 52
    edited March 2017

    Did 4/#25 so far, and today going for #5, can't believe one week flew by so quickly. 5th day on tamoxifen, so far so good. I'm also taking prunes and omega-3 supplement which i read helps with the skin.

    nem126, sorry to hear that your skin is turning pink so fast, apply loads of cream, hope it gets better.

    misslil , sorry i have a silly question to ask. After your mastectomy in 2008, how did you find out you have a 2cm IDC on the same breast? I'm going for an implant on my mastec side and i really wonder how to monitor that since there will be no more mammogram on that breast.


  • misslil
    misslil Member Posts: 260
    edited March 2017

    Oasis2016, not silly at all. My case has some odd/confusing factors, no doubt.

    When I had the mastectomy (skin-sparing type), there was an unusual amount of breast tissue left under the skin. That was a big reason why they decided I should do radiation which was quite rare with DCIS treated with mastectomy. A lot of the 'excess' was removed during a second surgery in 2008; but some remained. The development of my new issue in that area was picked up on mammogram last summer.

    I owe a big thanks to the Dr. in the imaging center where I go. She insisted a couple of years ago on trying to do mammograms on my L side despite the mastectomy - due to this lingering question about residual tissue. She actually overrode the mammogram Rx that I was given by my regular team, who asked for diagnostic screening on the R side only per standard practice.

    Mammograms can be done after mastectomy in certain cases. It was workable for me despite my mastectomy and implant reconstruction; my insurance paid for it with no questions. For future though - I'm doubting that mammograms will work for me again on that side after my latest surgery. May need to look at MRIs for regular follow-on screening?

    One of the planning questions now is how much 'excess' tissue could still be in place after surgery last month. If there's more than a minimal amount, it may argue for trying radiation again.



  • Mamasha
    Mamasha Member Posts: 104
    edited March 2017

    Elem,

    I got acupressure mat. So on the front of the box it shows a drawing of a person laying on their back and FRONT.!!!!ouch

    AB,

    congratulations on finishing! That boob isn't annoying anymore:)

    Enjoy the weekend!

    Sharon

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