TRIPLE POSITIVE GROUP

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  • Taco1946
    Taco1946 Member Posts: 645
    edited February 2017

    I was tender but not in pain after the first day from the port placement. I am a side sleeper so that wasn't a problem With a year of stuff plus blood draws, I sure would do it again though. Buzzed my hair today. Feels much better.

  • debiann
    debiann Member Posts: 1,200
    edited February 2017

    My lab wouldn't use my port for blood draws. I was disappointed, especially since I always had to use the right arm due to having lymph nodes removed on the left. My port was only used for chemo, except after my diep surgery when my IV was getting so sore. Even then I had to beg them to use the port. Apparently not everyone feels comfortable accessing a port.

  • kae_md99
    kae_md99 Member Posts: 621
    edited February 2017

    elizabeth, port pain lasted 2 days for me also.how are you?

  • kae_md99
    kae_md99 Member Posts: 621
    edited February 2017

    i cannot tolerated the l glutamine powder dissolved in water ( for the prevention of neuropathy), makes me nauseous. do you know if the tablet form is just as effective?

  • PatinMN
    PatinMN Member Posts: 920
    edited February 2017

    kae, I was not able to find glutamine tablets that contained more than 500 mg. you'd have to take 60 tablets to get to the recommended 30 grams of glutamine per day. I mixed my glutamine powder in Crystal Light and forced myself to drink it. My instructions were to take it 4 days a week (day of taxol and next three days)so I had a blessed 3 days off each week.

  • Elizabeth7
    Elizabeth7 Member Posts: 25
    edited February 2017

    Thanks guys for the info on your own experiences. Feel a small bit better today so hopefully if it improves a little every day it will feel a lot better in a weeks time. Yeah having the whole shebang including herceptin for a year so I'm sure I'll be happier to have the port in the long run. It's just I suppose I was prepared for pain and discomfort after the operations but not after the port so it came as a bit of a shock.

    Started my B6 tablets following all your advice too :-)


  • Cath78
    Cath78 Member Posts: 15
    edited February 2017

    Has anyone got nutritional advice to cap hormones instead of hormone therapies? I had clear margins and clear lymph nodes early stage IDC Her2+. Not doing the treatments x4 Hopeing to use nutritional +environmental prevention.Blessings to all whatever path you choose.

    Sorry if I keep repeating 😁

  • Tunegrrl
    Tunegrrl Member Posts: 196
    edited February 2017

    Cath, HER2+ breast cancer is serious business. Some people with small ER+PR+ HER2- tumours do well with lifestyle changes instead of chemo etc, but that is the easiest kind of breast cancer to beat. Before Herceptin, the five-year survival for HER+ breast cancer was 40%. Before you decide how to proceed, consider what you have to live for and how much temporary inconvenience you are willing to bear to protect that.

    That said, you might find what you are lookibg for in some of the alternative therapy threads here.


  • ElaineTherese
    ElaineTherese Member Posts: 3,328
    edited February 2017

    Cath,

    HER2+ is a very aggressive form of breast cancer. You won't find too many women on this (particular) board who have taken the alternative path. If you don't want to do conventional treatment, you're better off on the alternative therapy boards. Best wishes!

  • Blownaway
    Blownaway Member Posts: 760
    edited February 2017

    Tunegrrl - Does this mean 40% of the HER2+ women without herceptin died within 5 years of diagnosis or just their cancer returned within 5 years of diagnosis? I've wondered about it but no one seems to discuss it.

  • Tunegrrl
    Tunegrrl Member Posts: 196
    edited February 2017

    Hi Blownaway, i read that 40% stat at this out-of-date but detailed page: http://breast-cancer.ca/survicanc/

    Yes, it refers to overall survival. I love science, and it has saved my life.

  • kae_md99
    kae_md99 Member Posts: 621
    edited February 2017

    guys, for those using lupron, how often do you get the shot?thanks

  • kae_md99
    kae_md99 Member Posts: 621
    edited February 2017

    Patin, i take 10 g powder everyday, so if i take the tablet form which is 1000 mg, i will have to take 10 tabs.yikes.i will try and force myself to drink it.

  • Kattis894
    Kattis894 Member Posts: 218
    edited February 2017

    I would never dear to try something different than what the medical team is suggesting against this cancer. It is hard time with all the treatments and psychological issues that follows, at least for me. When everyone is explaining how aggressive this type of cancer is I do have to admit I have a hard time grasping this statement and do not understan completely the aggressiveness. How aggressive is triple positiv cancer? What is the meaning of the word aggressive in this context? I just finished radiation and feel completely "beat". The worst of it all is in my head and the fear for this to come back. Yesterday I was put in a big machine to check my bones, in a few weeks I am heading for another machine checking my lungs and other organs...Results in a few weeks...the constant poking, needles, tests and so forth is wearing me thin. I know I can not go back to my previous work because I would not be able to handle it. What will I do with my life if I am forced back to some kind of work. What would I do to support myself? I am worried and alone. Regarding the question regarding the type of toothbrush. I was told to visit the dentist at this point before further treatment. They suggested a soft electric toothbrush. They also had to pull out a tooth due to the roots being broken. So now I have one breast and lost a tooth. I do feel broken.

  • Suburbs
    Suburbs Member Posts: 429
    edited February 2017

    Kattis894, I hear you. Express your dark thoughts. It's like spending time in a sauna, a good purge. I have the same thoughts. You are definitely not alone. This group here has made many dark nights less horrible for me. All the best

  • Tresjoli2
    Tresjoli2 Member Posts: 868
    edited February 2017

    Kae I get my lupron shot every three months. While I was in active treatment my insurance covered this 100%. Now that I'm "better" they are not considering it preventative and I now have to cough up 10% of the price of the shot. I am fighting this on appeal with my MO's help, as the shot is VERY expensive.

  • coachvicky
    coachvicky Member Posts: 1,057
    edited February 2017

    i'm commenting on the thread reference alternative methods.

    My husband and I were in my oncologist office listening to him explain my chemotherapy treatment. My husband ask, what if she chooses not to take chemotherapy.

    My oncologist replied that I can make whatever choice I wanted to. I ask what are the ramifications if I choose not to do chemo.

    My oncologist stated that when my cancer returned, it would be lethal. He took the time to once again go over my scores, grade, the 3 types of cancers I had to help understand.

    When he finished, I replied I could start chemo that Monday.

    It was a hard decision but I believe I've given myself an opportunity to live.

    Coach Vicky







  • ElaineTherese
    ElaineTherese Member Posts: 3,328
    edited February 2017

    Kattis,

    I'm sorry you feel so wiped out by treatment. I know how that feels. While radiation was easier on my body than chemo, I did feel that it was somewhat dehumanizing. The techs were all very nice, but they were pushing my body into a very specific position on a daily basis. It's hard not to feel like a piece of meat. Re: "aggressive" -- HER2+ cancer has an overexpression of the protein HER2, which tells cells to keep replicating. As a result, it is typically Grade 2 or 3, and can grow/spread very fast. Re: going back to work -- it may take awhile for you to figure your next step. Take some time to heal first. ((Hugs))

  • Kattis894
    Kattis894 Member Posts: 218
    edited February 2017

    Thank you for your reply. It helps, especially knowing I am not totally alone. Radiation was for sure easier than chemo and I agree with the "a piece of meat" feeling for sure, not only due to the radiation process but the process as a hole. I met so many different doctors, nurses, staff at this point during the different procedures the question Who did I become? starts popping up. And yes, sometimes ranting about the negatives is a must. I think I am suffering from a depression pretty much at this point. I know I am suppose to exercise, eat healthy, be good to myself etc but mostly just laying in bed at the moment, moping around and feeling guilty I am not doing yoga, taking long walks, getting a gym card which I know will make me feel better. Just ordered a pizza, not good..:) It is not always easy to be kind to oneself. I admire everyone exercising and running marathons. I could´t even run to the corner without falling apart.

    The loneliness is also hard to bear. I am noticing the isolating effect from the illness as well. I had some female friends over for dinner the other week and it was great to catch up and chat about their dating and love life, the upcoming travels, work etc but I felt very depressed the next day. My life sort of disappeared as others continue. I am mostly alone.

    Regarding alternative medicin, I personally would not trust trying something else out even if you hear some stories. I am glad you decided to go ahead with chemo Coach Vicky. You will get threw it. Honestly it was not too bad at all when I was in the mist of it and without it I would simply have died within the year so I am very grateful for the research and medication excisting. Don´t mind my rants of self-pity but I need to have them during the aftermath of this year. It just never ends. Now I am praying no recurrences will be found and I can go ahead with the operation to make my healthy breast smaller to better match the other side. God bless.

  • Blownaway
    Blownaway Member Posts: 760
    edited February 2017

    Thanks Tunegrrl - I'll check it out just to keep my head out of the sand. Annual mammo is Monday and although I don't borrow trouble, looking forward to having it over with.

  • kae_md99
    kae_md99 Member Posts: 621
    edited February 2017

    guys what did you do to make food more "palatable", if that is even possible? i struggle with taste or lack of taste. it is hard even to swallow something that taste like metal. Tresjoli, i still have to take the Lupron shot due to insurance issues.will discuss it with my MO next week.its good to know that its good for 3 months.

  • Tunegrrl
    Tunegrrl Member Posts: 196
    edited February 2017

    kae, there are actually 1, 3 and 6-month doses of lupron available (about $400/month here no matter which way it is administered).

    I started with three monthly doses and ended with a single three-month dose because it was covered for me at that time (in Ontario during chemo most drugs are). I even filled a rX for another three-month dose, in case it would offer a survival advantage but then decided against it as per my MO (the pharmacy held onto it while i found out and just returned it into their system).

    My hot flashes dissipated and went away about six weeks after chemo ended, despite being still officially under the influence of lupron. So i think chemo+lupron really slammed me into chemopause, and the lupron alone did not account for my hot flashes.

    As for food, i developed a passion for canned minestrone soup and baby potatoes with butter and salt. I have a friend that survived on 20 cheerios one day during chemo. Whatever it takes. I hope you find something yummy soon.

  • kae_md99
    kae_md99 Member Posts: 621
    edited February 2017

    yes, anything to survive the chemo Tunegrrl. funny about the salt, i like dipping my food in salt.weird but anything that will work!

  • ElaineTherese
    ElaineTherese Member Posts: 3,328
    edited February 2017

    Ha! I liked salty foods during chemo, too. I also found sweets bearable, even though I usually don't have a sweet tooth. My friend Aimee used to bake me chocolate chip cookies every week. Yep, whatever gets you through....

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited February 2017

    kae - some have found that eating with plastic utensils helps with the metallic taste. I could taste salty and sweet, but not much in between. I ate a lot of yogurt with fruit, especially melon, and smoothies. Also, potatoes in any form, and sometimes with bacon and cheese. I stayed pretty bland for the first 10 days due to gi issues, but ate red meat and high protein for the 10 days before the next round to keep my rbc and hemoglobin up even though it didn't taste great

  • Tresjoli2
    Tresjoli2 Member Posts: 868
    edited February 2017

    my three month shot is over $2,100 here in Boston. I was fully covered until I switched insurance in June. Then I was on the hook for 10% of the price for September and December. I switched insurance again in January (company I work for switched plans) and I've requested an estimate of what they will cover before I get the shot in March.

    The argument I had with the insurer was ridiculous. "We don't consider it preventative because you already had cancer." So they'd obviously rather pay for my recurrence than pay for the darn shot. My cancer eats estrogen for lunch dangit! Sigh....

  • debiann
    debiann Member Posts: 1,200
    edited February 2017

    I craved salt too. One day I needed something salty so bad I had to pull into McD'so for some French fries.

    When I ended up in the ER due to weakness my sodium level was low. They said because I was drinking so much water (as we are told to do), I was flushing out the sodium. Also, even though I was drinking a lot, the water was not reaching the cellular level, so I was dehydrated. I needed additional IV fluids. Felt much better and started scheduling extra fluids day 4 after every chemo.

  • kae_md99
    kae_md99 Member Posts: 621
    edited February 2017

    was able to eat a whole apple yesterday with lots of salt.i will try that with grapes today. SpecialK, will try plastic spoons. have GI issues also, reflux is bad so bland diet for me in the beginning also.. i will try cookies also.thanks ladies.

  • Tresjoli2
    Tresjoli2 Member Posts: 868
    edited February 2017

    anybody heard from beautifullybroken? I sent her a PM and haven't heard from her.

  • BBwithBC45
    BBwithBC45 Member Posts: 727
    edited February 2017

    Kae, I was able to tolerate cottage cheese well and anything potatoes, especially potato dumplings. The saltier the better.

    I have a very sweet tooth, but I couldn't even look at anything sweet without overwhelming nausea. I was told to avoid raw foods, so I didn't have any. I love pizza, but the tomato sauce on the pizza felt revolting to me.


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