Kefir to boast immune?

LM070917 · February 2017

I was just wondering if anyone has tried kefir to boast the immune system?

I've started to make my own using kefir grains with coconut milk as a daily probiotic. I'm relunctant to use dairy milk as I am ER/PR positive.

Anonymous · February 2017

I haven't tried that, but I know that probiotics do indeed boost our immune systems. I drink Kombucha and take both pre- and pro-biotics. Interestingly these good bacteria also seem to have some ability to fight anxiety. See links:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC42281...

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2015/06...

gardengypsy · February 2017

Uh, oh. There is a connection between dairy and Estrogen positive BC cancer?

ShetlandPony · February 2017

Gardengypsy, the site linked below sums up some concerns about milk and links to studies. But note that it does say that kefir consumption is associated with reduced breast cancer risk.

http://foodforbreastcancer.com/foods/milk

gardengypsy · February 2017

Thanks for your reply, Shetland.There are definitely enough links in there to keep me busy for a long time.

I am actually not a big milk consumer, and we have always avoided big ag milk, using local, raw milk from a biodynamic farm.

Right now, milk products are an important source of calcium for me. My onc cautioned against the supplement form (calcification build up).

I think I will stick to yoghurt, kefir, and limited use of milk.

ChiSandy · February 2017

Dairy from cows (or goats or sheep) not treated with hormones does not increase the risk of ER+ recurrences, except insofar as it is consumed in sufficient amounts to increase calorie intake over and above energy output. But most dairy available in supermarkets is not as wholesome.

thistooshallpass2010 · February 2017

When diagnosed I hit the internet for ANYTHING I could do to battle my cancer. One of the first things I came across was Kefir. It's a little hard to come by in Georgia and the flavors are limited but I did find it and it is part of my daily diet. It's quite tasty as well.

ShetlandPony · February 2017

Like you, gardengypsy, I eschew calcium supplements, and consume dairy for part of my calcium, per my onc's recommendation. I decided to stick with a moderate amount of kefir, yogurt, and cheese that are organic and grass-fed whenever possible. Apparently the fat composition of grass-fed dairy is better for us. At the very least, without hormones, as you say, ChiSandy. And not highly sweetened. The oncology nutritionist (at a good cancer center) said that sheep or goat may be better than cow, but I haven't found much of it to try. She also emphasized the importance of gut health and recommended kefir, among other cultured and fermented foods. Also, some grass-fed cheese has the vitamin K2 that is being recognized as important for bone health.

"Combination of Micronutrients for Bone (COMB) Study: Bone Density after Micronutrient Intervention"

https://www.hindawi.com/journals/jeph/2012/354151/

Anonymous · February 2017

Question re dairy. Better to find dairy that is from grass-fed cows? I fear the overwhelming use of gmo soybean feed that so many of our livestock are fed, since I'm about 1000% ER+.

I also hate calcium supps and eat the skyr-type Icelandic yogurt, milk from non-RBST cows. But I wonder what they are fed, and how much of that residual feed ends up in my body.

abigail48 · February 2017

I wonder what organic maple syrup is filtered through. have asked a maker, he said paper and cloth, but if the cloth is felt........could have sheep prions in it

gardengypsy · February 2017

I am getting more good general food and health advice on these boards than anywhere anytime.

Anonymous · February 2017

Gardengypsy, ditto! Always. I find out about new developments sometimes earlier than my own MO, too.

gardengypsy · February 2017

:-)

Kefir to boast immune?

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