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  • Falconer
    Falconer Member Posts: 1,192
    edited January 2017

    Jen- didthey say anything about the hernia being related to the flap surgery? Just curious. I had an abdominal hernia repair in 2013. It was simple, so if that's what you need, I hope it's as easy as it can be. I'm planning to have DIEP flap early this summer...

  • jenjenl
    jenjenl Member Posts: 948
    edited January 2017

    That's one thing I have on my list to ask. When they did the DIEP my BS did work on my actual abdominal muscles too I guess my jumbo kids tore them apart? So I do wonder if that was part of it, I'll ask and report back :)

  • chrissyb
    chrissyb Member Posts: 16,818
    edited January 2017

    Jenjenl I'm so happy for you that there is no cancer! Good luck with your visit with the surgeon and I hope he/she can give you some answers.

    Love n hugs. Chrissy

  • Christina313
    Christina313 Member Posts: 27
    edited January 2017

    Thanks for the information regarding the supplements. I think I will go out and get her some of these. She just had a scan she is ned. we cant get to excited as this could be short lived. the doctor said this was a shocking scan. her liver tumor was 7cm and her breast tumor was 10 cm. She is triple negative so they didn't give her any pills or anything. she goes back in a month to check.

    My friend at works takes those changa mushrooms for her lupus. That might be something I look into. I think you can get tea off amazon. My friend also gets her water tested and makes sure the ph level is correct. I guess it has something to do with alkaline.


  • Rosesgirl
    Rosesgirl Member Posts: 4
    edited January 2017

    Some details and terminology may not be exact but I'll do the best I can. My mom has been fighting breast cancer for 7 years, she was diagnosed in 2010 when she was 51 years old. She has one of the worst breast cancers you can be diagnosed with, called Triple Negative Breast Cancer. It has come back every 18-24 months since then, I won't go into every time and what happened because it would be the length of a book. I always felt like this cancer thing was going to be something that would flare up, and she'd fight it and that would be that, nothing would really happen. Through all these years, there's been ups and downs and up and downs. We were always told that the cancer was in her lymph-nodes, as long as it wasn't in a major organ, that was a good thing, scan after scan and it never was in a major organ- more cancerous lymph-nodes would pop up and some would even go away, we knew things were getting more serious because there was only one medication left for her to use to treat her cancer. That was scary but through it all, mom continued to be positive. Last summer, she started getting a lot of swelling in her leg, they couldn't figure out why, doctors appointment after doctors appointment, it was assumed it was from the immunotherapy treatment she was on - through the fall it continued and then it was both legs, then she started physical therapy. At Christmas things were great, mom was a little tired and the swelling was bothering her, but her and I cooked and she gave the kids all of their gifts. And then the week between Christmas and New Years is when everything started happening. My mom called me and had said her dad and I were on their way to a regular routine appointment with her oncologist, no worries, nothing to be concerned about, just a check up. The day before a check up my mom gets blood work. She called me a few hours later and said her kidney functions were off, they thought maybe dehydration, so they sent her to the hospital to fluids, after another blood test, something was still not right, they did a few more tests and discovered cancerous lymph nodes in her kidneys that were causing a blockage. They scheduled surgery right away to put stints in her kidneys. We were nervous about surgery but also positive because this meant that the swelling would go away-finally, they figured out what was causing the swelling in her legs. She had surgery. Afterwards the pain was awful. I have never seen my mom or anyone in so much pain. We thought it HAS to be from the surgery, it has to be, she wasn't having this pain before surgery! But whenever the doctors would come in, they would slightly shake their heads at the pain being from surgery, just enough to cause us concern that maybe it wasn't from surgery, maybe something else was going on. They wanted to do a special test in her back that would take a couple hours, we were told the cancer was in her back but just to pray it wasn't in her brain. Just pray, so we did, we kept praying. They never got to the scan of her brain because the scan of the back showed that the cancer was in her spine and not just in one spot, and that's when they told us that they can manage her pain but there's nothing they can do. Since that day, our lives will never ever be the same again. My mom is now home, hospice comes twice a week and we are caring for her and spending as much time with her as we can. They gave her 4-6 weeks and I I'm really confused. She looks great, she's walking, talking, I mean, she has a morphine pump but should we be getting a 2nd opinion? I'm so confused, she's only 58, she looks great, I just can't imagine 4-6 weeks. Is she just going to not wake up one day?

    • mara51506
      mara51506 Member Posts: 5,088
      edited January 2017

      I am so sorry for all your Mom and your family and friends have gone through.

      The doctors obviously will have to tell you specifically what they found. It sounds like it could be they found cancer in her spinal fluid which does shorten a person's lifespan significantly. I am sorry if they did not make this clear but the doctors need to advise if this is the case. My guess is strictly that, a guess. For now, enjoy your Mom as much as you can, be glad if she is walking, talking and feeling good. Cherish that no matter what the doctors tell you. It is a blessing that she can at least feel good. I hope they clear everything up for you. Hugs for you and your mom.

    • Rosesgirl
      Rosesgirl Member Posts: 4
      edited January 2017

      yes, you are correct, it's in her spinal fluid. I didn't know the difference between spine and spinal fluid when I wrote this, my brother was telling me last night that there's a big difference. Thank you for your response.

    • Christina313
      Christina313 Member Posts: 27
      edited January 2017

      i would maybe get a second opinion. There is one client I know, his wife is going to Ottawa to have some kind of stem cell surgery. They implant them, then radiate it. Then they do it over again.

      My mom also has cancer. She is OK but I dread the day when things get bad. I try and do everything I can. One of my father's co-workers wife was given a few weeks to live. They did chemo daily, she changed her diet. Try some beet juice. Now she is cancer free. This was ten years ago.

      All the best to you.

      Christina

    • lovelylibra
      lovelylibra Member Posts: 18
      edited February 2017

      Hi All,

      I appreciate the support that I have received in these forums. My mom has since allowed me access to her medical records and I have found the following:

      Diagnosis:

      Peritoneal Carcinoma, ER-, PR-, possibly HER+ that is consistent with her original breast cancer diagnosis in 2005.

      I have not seen the HER + confirmation report yet, but I spoke with the doctor that treated her in 2005 and he said that the treatment would be Herceptin (if HER+) , Cytoxin, and Adriamycin. Her pathology report states "Separate Report to Follow" under HER2 status.

      A few questions and comments:

      * My first plan of action is that I will inquire regarding when the FISH test or the Inform HER2 Dual ISH test to confirm the HER+ diagnosis to ensure that the Herceptin will work.

      *Does anyone have experience for treating this using the Herceptin (if HER+) , Cytoxin, and Adriamycin?

      *Naive question- Since the peritoneum is essentially a lining of the stomach area and not a vital organ, why does this show as a poor prognosis? Why is it so hard to treat?

      * Is a combination of cytoreductive surgery and hyperthermic intraperitoneal chemotherapy (HIPEC) an option for treatment?

      Thanks all!

    • DancingElizabeth
      DancingElizabeth Member Posts: 415
      edited February 2017

      Hi All,

      I finished radiation - the end of last year. Now my ONC is having me do blood-work every so often. (The first set of blood work was in January).

      Anyway - She wants to include "tumor markers" in the blood work that I'm to have done next week. She said she's doing this - because I'm very high risk...

      I am new to this test (never had it done before) and very scared that it will be abnormal/high. I was wondering if anyone else here - has had this test before and what happens - when results are abnormal? Does that mean a CT and/or Bone scan needs to be done? Or do you get retested in a few weeks or so?

      I'm freaking out about this...I feel like based on my original dx - there *must* be some cancer lurking somewhere in my body....

    • ShetlandPony
      ShetlandPony Member Posts: 4,924
      edited February 2017

      TMs are accurate for some people, and not accurate for others. In your case, you could consider this test an an early warning system. It will not say whether or not there is cancer again, but higher TMs would alert your onc that a scan should be done. Oncs will tell you that finding mets earlier does not mean longer overall survival, so that is the argument for avoiding the anxiety of TMs, and not doing TMs or scans without symptoms. On the other hand, finding a recurrence earlier may mean better quality of life; for example, getting treatment before a bone break appears, or being able to use hormone therapy instead of chemo as the first line therapy.

      Being high or low risk is only about statistics, not about individuals. Your onc is being careful because of your stage; it does not necessarily mean she thinks you will recur. Talk to her about the TMs some more, until you feel more comfortable with the decision.

    • mara51506
      mara51506 Member Posts: 5,088
      edited February 2017

      You are correct. Tumour markers may be used to check if cancer has returned, stopped responding to treatment or to establish a baseline to guage recurrence risk. It can also check on results of treatment.

      TMs are not accurate for all.

      Try not to agonize. It does NOT immediately mean more cancer. Your team will take care of you. Hugs your way. Keep us posted.

      Above info from www.cancer.ca

    • chrissyb
      chrissyb Member Posts: 16,818
      edited February 2017

      Because TM are not accurate as they can be effected by other things going on in your body, they are used more for watching the trend over time. Should they trend up over repeated tests, your onc will then order further testing to see what's going on.

      For some people they are wholey inaccurate........I'm one of those.......and show nothing but the norm even when we know there is active cancer.

      Please don't stress over this blood test as it is a very normal one done as part of your on going care.

      Love n hugs. Chrissy

    • DancingElizabeth
      DancingElizabeth Member Posts: 415
      edited February 2017

      Thanks Everyone for the very kind words and support...this is such a difficult time...and your words help so much!!!

    • melmcbee
      melmcbee Member Posts: 1,119
      edited February 2017

      What is the treatment for bone mets. Does arimidex work. Thank you for any insigh

    • chrissyb
      chrissyb Member Posts: 16,818
      edited February 2017

      Hi melmcbee, yes, arimadex is a powerful treatment in a little pill. Please don't think that it will not work. I have bone mets and my first treatment was Arimadex and it worked for fifteen months before I had a small progression. At that time my doc changed me to Femara (same family of drugs just put together a bit differently ) and that has gotten me to NED (no evidence of disease ) and I have been that way for five years.

      The way the docs treat mets is with quality of life first and foremost while trying to contain or at the very least slow down any progression.

      Keeping everything crossed that the Arimadex works well for you with few side effects.

      Love n hugs. Chrissy

    • melmcbee
      melmcbee Member Posts: 1,119
      edited February 2017

      Thank you Chrissy

    • Goincrzy8
      Goincrzy8 Member Posts: 387
      edited February 2017

      So orig dx was Stage IIIC, I think the MO is taking way to long to get things moving. Had a CT of abd chest pelvis, met the RO and she got the CT report something with the Kidney she sent me to a Urologist and ordered a PET Scan. Met the Urologist he said to remove the kidney. Spot on the bone in spine from PET. Disappointed in the MO that she never responded to me about the DX of the CT when I physically left the report at her office. MO put me on Arimidex (anastrozole). So is this acceptable treatment? No Chemo etc? I am getting a second opinion from a different MO. just need to vent


    • chrissyb
      chrissyb Member Posts: 16,818
      edited February 2017

      Hi goincrzy8, Anastrozole is a normal first treatment for hormonal positive mets. Just because it's 'just a little pill' please don't think it won't work as I can assure you it really packs a powerful punch.

      Oncs the world over treat mets a little different to first time round as it is no longer about a cure but about quality of life while trying to keep the cancer in check. The AI'S (Anastrozole - Arimadex, Letrozole - Femara and Exemestane - Aromasin) are a normal first line treatment and chemos are kept for much later.

      Goodluck withbyour second oppinion.

      Love n hugs. Chrissy

    • Goincrzy8
      Goincrzy8 Member Posts: 387
      edited February 2017
    • ShetlandPony
      ShetlandPony Member Posts: 4,924
      edited February 2017

      Please get a second opinion from a major cancer center before you consent to surgery, Goincrzy8.

    • Artista928
      Artista928 Member Posts: 2,753
      edited February 2017

      My onc doesn't do TMs. Should she? She says they are inaccurate but then she says I'm high risk. I've asked her before but she doesn't feel it's necessary. Should I push?

    • chrissyb
      chrissyb Member Posts: 16,818
      edited February 2017

      Artista for some people they are pretty accurate while for others totally useless but to find out which catagory you sit in you need to at least test for a period of time to watch the trend.

      Always keeping in mind that tm's can also be effected by other bodily inflammation so this is why some docs consider them unreliable.

      Hope this helps.

      Love n hugs. Chrissy

    • maryland
      maryland Member Posts: 1,298
      edited February 2017

      Hi all, 6 months ago I switched to an onc that does TM's. last August all were within normal limits. TM's redone last Monday. Last night my MO called and told me ca 27.29 was up 10 but within normal limits, CA15-3, elevated only slightly from last time but still within normal limits. My CEA however had gone from 2 to 4 which is above normal limits. Then he asked me if I had any symptoms, I told him only lower back pain but it was ongoing for some time and I figured it was due to a ruptured disc and the fact that I'm on my feet all day at work. He said, "well, we'll start with a bone scan then". Hopefully I'll get the scan this week, thoughts anyone?

    • Louisap
      Louisap Member Posts: 23
      edited February 2017

      I just read a message in a breast cancer support group I'm in. I think it can go into the don't say this. A woman is very worried because she's stage IV & was told she only had a few months left, I don't know what treatments or any she's on. She has school age children so was worried about them etc. This lady, answered that her mother died of breast cancer leaving 4 children & it was devastating for them. I think that's not very nice. She's already worried about telling her kids, the last thing she needs to be reminded about is how devastated they'll be. She knows & doesn't need anyone to repeat it. So just be kind. Let your friend know she can honestly tell you her feelings. Don't push anything. Everyone needs something different. Some want to vent & talk where as some just need company.

    • DancingElizabeth
      DancingElizabeth Member Posts: 415
      edited February 2017

      Artista - I wish my ONC did not do TM's! And, she tells me I'm high risk - too. But, in my case I'd rather her *not* do them as this test truly scares me. It's giving me a great deal of anxiety because I feel like there must be *some* cancer hiding out somewhere in my body. I feel like I'd rather not know...as I'm not in any pain and rather have a mental break from BC until my scan that is scheduled for July...

      Genny - I'm sorry I don't have any answers for you...just know you're not alone in this TM torture...(((hugs))).

      As for me...I had the dreaded blood work done on 2/20 but still no results. I'm worried (also) that my blood work might have gotten lost because at had it done at another medical facility (because it was easier to get to). I guess I probably should have had it done at the same facility as my MO's....


    • maryland
      maryland Member Posts: 1,298
      edited February 2017

      Scared, I'm just the opposite, I hunted around till I found an MO that did TM's. I always have aches and pains and when I had the TM's 6 months ago and they were normal it brought me tremendous peace of mind. I'd like to know about mets earlier rather than later but we're all different. I think the TM thing should be up to the patient. Good luck with yours and try to relax, easier said than done I know.

    • chrissyb
      chrissyb Member Posts: 16,818
      edited February 2017

      Genny it's a good thing that your pain is being checked.......it's way better to know that there is nothing there than to be second guessing and stressing over it.

      Keeping my fingers crossed for you.

      Love n hugs. Chrissy

    • DancingElizabeth
      DancingElizabeth Member Posts: 415
      edited February 2017

      Thanks Genny...good luck to you as well!

    • rae41
      rae41 Member Posts: 6
      edited February 2017

      Did any of you who are now a Stage IV start out with Stage I, IDC, non aggressive, small tumor, no lymph node activity, ER+, PR+, HER2-?

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