Calling all triple negative breast cancer patients in the UK
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Hi, Gina,
I will start with your last question first, about the auto thingy on your phone. And the answer is......I don't know. I assume you are working with your smartphone when you post here? My Samsung phone does the same thing, it always thinks it knows what I am going to say; and often it does not. Makes me mad!! The good thing about it is it fixes typos, although sometimes the words do not end up as you wanted them! I don't know of a fix for it, I even had a tech-savvy teen-ager work on it. We got it turned off on a word or two, but then it came back on by itself.
I do my posting here on an old-school desktop PC, with a keyboard. It is great, I can bring up 2 windows side-by-side, have the post I am answering in one so I can refer back and forth, and my answer in the other. I have the spell-check turned off on it, since I am a pretty good speller. It lets me post long sermons without cutting me off. I do use my phone if I want to post a pic here, and I also have a tablet, which I use to post here when on trips.
So the short answer is, I don't know how to turn off your spell-check auto-fill, whatever it is; I still think there must be a way, but myself and a very smart teen couldn't figure it out. Do you have a laptop or a PC? I really like getting up in the morning, getting my cup of coffee and snuggling into my red desk chair with my mouse. Like I said, old-school!
Not sure what you mean about Aruba, I posted 2 pics. One was of the beach where we were staying, which was beautiful white sugar sand and turquoise blue ocean. That extended south and north of us. One day we went to the northern part of the island, which the government owns and keeps undeveloped. It has a very rocky coast and rough water, and little scrubby trees, but mostly just windswept. It is completely unlike the beaches to the south. And Aruba is a desert island, it gets very little rain in a normal year; so it is not the humid, jungle type of island.
I am very sorry about your friend who is living in Dubai. I am a little unclear about what is going on with her. Why can she not move? Is it the lymphedema, is she not looking after it? I understand it is only manageable with massage, exercise therapy, and perhaps compression. Has she had a cancer scare? I am not quite understanding why she was taken to the hospital, it sounds like she is working a lot, and maybe not getting enough rest. As we know, if you have a cancer that is ER+ (estrogen-receptor positive) Tamoxifen will block the estrogen, thus preventing you from getting another ER+ cancer. But it probably would not prevent you from getting a different type of cancer. I know several women that take it or one of the other similar drugs, it seems to give them a feeling that they are protected. And I suppose they are to an extent. I hope your friend can find an answer for her problems.
I also thought that once I was through with chemo I would quickly return to normal. I was wrong, and I am now a different normal. But you must remember, I am also probably 20(?) years older than you, and you will snap back better than me. I only wanted to say it is a gradual process to recover from the stress of what your body has been through. I guess that's why they call it a "cancer journey."
Yes, I completely agree, the world seems to be in turmoil, and the media love it, and keep things bubbling on the burner. I guess we're just along for the ride!
Talk to you soon, dear Gina. I don't think I knew you had a toddler, how does he like the long chemo treatments when he goes with you?
Mary
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Hi everyone
Just when I start to think on a positive note, I get something to set me back. I'm post menopause, and now have scant bleeding for a few days. Going to OB/GYN tomorrow. I know she will do a vaginal ultrasound. Could be a fibroid, I have one I know of, but good grief. Will it ever end. Trying not to go off the reservation, because the future will come no matter my outlook, but i'm really bummed out. I've had this before bc and it was nothing, possible thick uterine lining, had biopsy and everything. Funny I had no worries then, but now not so much.
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Hi Val,
Thinking of you and sending prayers.It is so hard not to worry.
Rhond
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Hey, Val,
I know what you mean, it's like there is always a doctor somewhere in the wings now, ugh! Since you have had the spotting before and it was nothing important, that's a good sign! I had one of those vaginal ultrasounds last summer, I will say only it was uncomfortable for me. I'll be thinking of you tomorrow when you will have an uneventful doctor visit!
Mary
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Hi Valstim,
Sorry to know about your scant bleeding. I know the worry feeling exactly. Back in October, 2013, my myoma uteri have grown to 8.02 cm x 5.43 cm and I have profused bleeding every time i have my menstruation. I became anemic and had to take iron supplements. I don't have bc then, only cysts in both breasts which were described in my mammogram results as "probably benign". Three cysts on my left breast and just a "new one" on my right breast. When i finally mustered the courage to have my myoma removed, the surgeon said it could wait until i become menopause. That was back in 2013. I was so happy during that time thinking everything's benign and ok.
I was unable to get my annual physical exam, tvus and mammo in 2014 and 2015 because of my busy work sched and the clinic moved to another location. I sort of gotten lazy, and my main problem during that time was my aching knees.
In January, 2016, I went again for my annual checkup and that was when i was diagnosed that my "new one" on the right breast has grown and was now described in my mammo result as "suspiciously malignant". At the same time, my transvaginal ultrasound showed that my myoma uteri has inexplicably shrunk to 4.45 x4.04 cm. Maybe due to my being perimenopausal. That time i was afraid to have a breast core needle biopsy because of my bad experience with my father and cousin who both died of cancer. So, I had my bmx delayed until September, 2016 when a follow up mammogram in August showed that my right breast tumor had quickly grown to 2.5 cm. Still, "my myoma uteri and my left breast cysts are within me", and that's the reason why I am thinking twice about having Tamoxifen. Now i hear the recent bad news about my close friend using Tamoxifen (it was in my penultimate post before this one). Now you. Uggghhh!
I really hope and pray that your problem will only be minor and that everything will be fine with your medical checkup. You're strong and a survivor. It is the waiting with anxiety that really sucks!
Take care,
Gina
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Mary,
Thanks for the reply. Yeah, i'm using a cellphone most of the time, but i also use my laptop. I dont really know if the spellcheck/autofill can disabled but now as i type, i changed the setting seen on the lower right of the editor frame from rich text editor to plain text editor. I will observe if the problems stop.
I get the impression that Aruba is all sand, rocks and ocean from your posted pics. My aunt-in-law has an American husband born in Aruba. They also send pictures of Aruba and the backgrounds are the same as yours. The only trees i see in their pics are those having leaves leaning on just one side. I forgot its name. There were pictures where see-thru hollow rock formations were formed by the ocean. I havent had the chance to speak to my in-laws in a while now. Seems like everyone's too busy.
My friend has had lymphedema right after surgery and has a swollen left arm most of the time, that's almost five years now, along with Tamoxifen. She's only months behind me in age at 53. She's ER/PR positive, had BMX during her pre-menopause period and had Tamoxifen then until today after becoming menopausal. I dont have the latest news from her now but i think the reason why she can't move her arm, shoulder and neck is the retained liquid due to lymphedema. I also experience that about a week after my BMX because of a blocked aspirator attached to my cancer side right arm. It was painful and i was unable to move my arm too.
My kid is fine whenever we take him with us to my chemo sessions, as long as he has his laptop or smartphone. Once the battery is exhausted or you take away his gadget, World War lll breaks out.
Lol!
Take care my dear,
Gina
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Hello Val,
Thank you for that information about tamoxifen. I am so glad that I have never had to take it.
Fond thoughts.
Sylvia xxxx
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Hello Mary,
Thank you for posting the photographs of Aruba. It all looks very lovely.
Thank you also for the PM. I am amazed at everything you have been through and survived. You must be a very strong woman. It makes the events in my life seem minor. I did have some incidents when I was teaching in Morocco. I lived through a military coup there when the military tried to overthrow the king. It was all quite frightening. There was also an incident when travelling from where I was across the Atlas mountains to Marrakesh. The car I was in nearly went over the edge at one point when the driver was blinded by the sun. yet another incident was when there had been exceptional rain and the car I was in ended up stuck in the middle of a road where the river had overflowed. I was terrified as the water came into the car. My first husband and a good American friend teaching with me but in the Peace Corps got out of the car and pushed it to safety. I seem to have more than three lives. I survived all that, have survived breast cancer, so far, and back in my twenties had an ectopic pregnancy which could have ended my life as well.
Why not put your PM to me on our thread? I really think it would be worth it.
I shall write more later.
Love.
Sylvia xxxx
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Hello Mary,
Thank you for your post from February 5th.
I have been following all the political news from France and, yes, it is quite true that Marine LePen is now calling for France to separate from the EU and to get out of the Euro. It is indeed Frexit! I think France is going through the same problems as in the UK and in the US. I think we can no longer talk about left and right in politics, but in terms of the ordinary people of the country versus the political elite and the establishment. There is so much anger out there. I think Marine LePen will get through the first round of the Presidential elections but I do not know whether she can end as President in the two round system, I have my doubts. There is a lot of scandal around François Fillon of the centre right. He may have to step down as a candidate. There are two others who are on the left in old terms.
I cannot believe the venom being spouted against Donald Trump in this country. The latest thing is about not letting him come on a State visit or addressing the Parliament. As far as I am concerned, he is full of common sense and is trying to carry out his campaign promises. I cannot see what is wrong with a President who wants to protect the people of his country from terrorists. I do not take any notice of what our media says. They are toxic. Nigel Farage is treated in the same way. We would never have had a referendum without him and now the majority of politicians are trying to go against the will of the people of this country. As far as I am concerned, it is the people who are sovereign and not the MPs. They are just on hire to serve the people. It is so easy to call people bigots, racists and anything else they can think up, just because they want to control immigration, make their own laws and have a nation state.
I think the phone-in show on LBC radio started a couple of weeks ago. I think you can listen to it on the internet, and they have a studio camera. This is the third week and I have listened to most of it. I do not know how he puts up with some of the abuse and ignorance from some callers. Last night the programme was about the role of the Speaker of the House of Commons. He is supposed to be politically neutral but he let forth a tirade of abuse against Donald Trump and said he would not allow him to address Parliament. Nigel Farage nominated him hypocrite of the week and I agree. I think the Speaker should be sacked. On Monday he was talking about health tourism, whereby foreigners turn up in A&E for treatment when they are not eligible and are supposed to pay. Of course, they do not pay!
On a different matter, I think we are doing the right thing not posting too many details of the Chris Woollams emails. I think we need to do it very gradually so that those going through treatment are not overwhelmed by it all. Gently does it and one day at a time.
That is all for now.
Love.
Sylvia xxxx
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Hello Marias,
Thank you for posting the video entitled Medication that kills and organised crime. I shall try to have a look at it when I have more time.
I hope all is going well with your treatment.
Fond thoughts.
Sylvia xxxx
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Hello Gina,
I was sorry to read about your friend and I do hope she makes a good recovery.
I think you may be doing too much research about tamoxifen. All this information will be about women with hormonal breast cancer, and not triple negative breast cancer. You cannot go by what is happening to other women.
If you have doubts about what your oncologist is recommending, then get a second opinion.
You will not find the answer on these threads, as we are not doctors.
Look forward to finishing your chemotherapy in a few weeks time and getting back to a normal life.
Thinking of you.
Fond thoughts.
Sylvia xxxx
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Hello Val,
I am just popping in to say that I hope all goes well when you go for your examination to find out what is causing the bleeding.
Take care.
Fond thoughts.
Sylvia xxxx
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Hello everyone,
I think I have now caught up with the posts and have not forgotten anyone.
Hello to Rhonda, I hope all is going well as you come to the end of your chemotherapy.
Hello Kath, I hope all is going well as you continue with your radiotherapy.
Hello Chris, I hope there are no problems with your radiotherapy sessions.
Hello Pam, how are things going post-surgery for your bilateral mastectomy? Have you had any problems with lymphoedema? I remember how important it is to start physiotherapy exercises the next day after surgery and to continue them as long as needed. I had very minor problems and did not need to go to the clinic regularly. There are measurements that are taken to diagnose serious lymphoedema and I have seen women wearing special sleeves and bandages.
This is all to do with damaged lymph flow as a result of removal of lymph nodes.
Hello to Lamis, I hope your mother is coping with the Taxotere.
Hello to Maggie, what is the latest news for you?
Hello 4everStrong, how are you and are you following the French elections?
Hello adagio, I hope you are enjoying your holiday in Mexico.
Hello Hanieh, I hope all is well and hope to hear from you.
Hello Amanda, I hope you are feeling better and will keep in touch.
Mid-week has brought us some sunshine in Exmouth.
Apparently one day last week was world cancer day (Saturday February 4th) but nothing much seemed to be made of it here.
Best wishes to all.
Sylvia xxxx
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Hi Sylvia and all,
I told my doctor about the tender area and I waited for an
Ultrasound today after treatment.I have a swollen lymph
Node under my arm and my doctor said she is going to
Speak to the surgeon about going right to surgery.
She wants me to have a pet scan to see if there is spread,so that worried me.I feel like I am so close to finishing Chemo and now this.
I will hopefully see my doctor next Friday-surgeon.
Rhonda
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Hi Rhonda,
I hate to see this news, that you have a new worry. Here's hoping it's nothing serious, and that your tests will confirm that. I was hoping it was because of the strained muscle.
So will your next appt. be tomorrow or a week from tomorrow on Friday?
Mary
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Hi Mary,
My appointment will either be next Friday (not tomorrow)or the following
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Rhonda,
My most positive thoughts and prayers will go with you!
And are you among those people who will be in the big snow storm on the East Coast?
Mary
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Mary,
Yes,we have about six inches and it is still snowing!
Weather said it should stop soon.
Rhond
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Hello Rhonda,
I was sorry to read that you have a swollen lymph node under the arm, and that your oncologist is talking about going right to surgery.
I can understand this is a worrying time for you. It may well be that the swollen lymph node is just an infection. Let us hope so.
It is probably a good idea to have a PET scan just to see what is going on.
For the moment, try to look on the positive side and get your chemotherapy finished.
Can you remind me whether you are having radiotherapy?
Thinking of you and sending best wishes.
Sylvia xxxx
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Hello 49nscared,
Thank you for your PM. I hope you are feeling very optimistic as you get through the last of your radiotherapy treatment. You have done well and got through neoadjuvant chemotherapy, mastectomy of the left breast, two lymph nodes removed and no sign of cancer. Congratulations on all of that. Let us know when you finish radiotherapy and take care of yourself as you recover from this journey.
If you want to come and join a great group of women on here, you are most welcome.
Fond thoughts.
Sylvia xxxx
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Hello everyone but especially Gina, who is trying to make up her mind about taking aromatase inhibitors when she is triple negative, but has 5% ER+.
You might want to read the cover story on the magazine What Doctors Don't Tell You (Helping you make better health choices).
On the front cover the heading is Preventing Breast Cancer.
Inside the magazine there is a six page feature article entitled Preventing breast cancer, and underneath this heading there is written "An industry-funded movement is afoot to put healthy women on bone-thinning and heart-risky drugs to prevent cancer. Celeste McGovern investigates the conventional advice and better alternatives". On th same page it is stated "You do not have to take a pill to prevent breast cancer. You can protect yourself by cleaning up your lifestyle and including a number of natural cancer killers in your daily diet".
The article then begins by saying "Most people have never heard of aromatase inhibitors, even though they have been used for years to prevent breast-cancer tumour regrowth amongst women who have already been diagnosed and treated for the disease".
There follows a very detailed article about aromatase inhibitors, such as anastrozole.
It looks as though doctors are now being encouraged to prescribe the drug off-label for purposes that the FDA has not yet approved to treat women with no personal history of cancer but with factors that put them at a higher risk of disease.
I cannot put all the details here but urge you all to read it and comment. All the heavy side effects are listed and there is also a detailed section about healthy ways to prevent cancer, including eating Asian style, Maitake mushrooms, Green Tea, Turmeric, Seaweed.
It is interesting to read "The reality is that most women – 88% - will never face breast cancer in their lifetime".
My own personal opinion is that it is wrong for the whole emphasis of prevention is based on taking pills that have very nasty side effects.
There is another section in this long article entitled "What to do instead" with the following headings: Rethink mammography, eat your greens, look to lignans, with the following quote: "Post-menopausal women eating 25 grms a day of flaxseed or 50 mgrms a day of lignans have the lowest risk of breast cancer".
For those of you who do not know about these nutrients, it says the following "Flaxseed (linseed) is high in beneficial anti-inflammatory omega-3 fats and fibre, and also contain 100 times more lignans than any other edible food. Lignans are also found in other seeds, vegetables, beans, legumes and dried fruit like apricots and prunes, and give plants their structure".
This part of the article goes on to talk about the extraordinary anti-cancer properties. "When oestrogen levels are too high, they block oestrogen receptors (like tamoxifen does) and oestrogen production by inhibiting the aromatase enzyme. Lignans also provide significant protection against the development of degenerative diseases like cancer.
There is much more information in this article than I can put in my post.
Please try to read these pages in the magazine if you can. It is the February edition. You can click on www.wddty.com or email info@wddty.co.uk.
I hope, Gina, that you will read this article.
Best wishes to everyone and have a good weekend.
Sylvia xxxx
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Hello Marias,
I have not forgotten the video to look at about drugs. I have just been too busy. That first video was amazing and I think th women here would love it. It shows the fantastic beauty of Nature. The pictures tell it all, so you do not have to know Spanish.
Thinking of you.
Sylvia xxxx
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Hello Rhond,
I am sorry to hear about your swollen lymph node. I think I also saw a post by Valstim that she's worried about possible tumor or something. I know it is easier said than done but we all have to be strong about these things. I am also having a dilemma if i should take Tamoxifen after my chemo as prescribed by my onco. I am still keeping my options open and i am trying to learn more before i make a decision.
In these anxious moments, let us try to use the power of faith thru group prayer petitions where we mention the names of all of us needing Divine Providence for strength, protection, and guidance. I do that using the Novenas to St. Peregrine and Padre Pio of Pietrelcina. I believe that prayer is powerful.
Sending positive healing thoughts and prayers to you and all our sisters who need it.
Love,
Gina
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Hi Sylvia,
I just read your last post to me and i'm really grateful for your concern.
I will read the link you gave.
I am still assessing things about the next steps that i should do right after chemo and that is still about 1 & 1/2 months away.
My dilemma as you know is about my remaining cysts in my left breasts and my myoma uteri. Tamoxifen is said to prevent breast cancer growth thru oestrogen inhibition but it is also said to cause uterine cancer. We haven't really had a lengthy discussion about this but she said we will get to it once my chemo is over. She will look at my medical history, records and lab tests and try to establish a baseline. I read something about relative and absolute risks involve in planning the treatment steps and i am gonna ask her about it.
My oncologist is very good from what i've heard from the nursing staffs of the two top hospitals i've been to. She already has an extensive experience in her field aside from the fact that her husband is also an oncologist and they are a team. I think she is trying to cover all the risks involved with me being a weak ER/PR positive.
However, I am very much inclined to using the natural means. If you will remember the first few posts we had when I was a newbie, I said that before my chemo started, I have been taking turmeric and flaxseed omega3 supplements aside from juicing and eating only fish, fruits and vegetables, shunning sugar, meat and dairy especially fried or oily food. My onco said I could eat anything I want but not so much of oily food and too much antioxidants during chemo.
I stopped taking the supplements and juicing upon my onco's advice so as not to interfere with the chemo drugs but I still intend to continue them after my chemo and if i am not convinced enough by her reasons for me to take Tamoxifen. The mere thought of taking it for five or ten years is already negative to me.
Right now, I am just forced to eat grass-fed beef and cage-free chicken and eggs because of weight loss. I am already underweight by about 4 pounds and as i have told you, my bloodcounts are very low. My chemo might be delayed if i am underweight. I need meat protein to put on more weight and i think it is working as i have gained a couple of pounds. I will stop eating meat again after my chemo.
But just a few minutes ago, i got my CBC results and still my wbc, rbc and haemoglobin are all below normal despite me having two shots of Filgrastim a week after my last chemo. I am puzzled. I would have to report all these to my onco again. The good thing though is i did not experience any SEs like sore throat, mouthsores and severe body pains so i guess taking my Filgrastim shots early helped in that respect.
I intend to learn more of possible options or combination strategies that i think i would benefit most and i will let you all know.
My post is long and i have to send it before it gets lost again.
Love,
Gina
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Hi Sylvia,
I am going to have a pet scan next Wednesday.Maybr a biopsy of the lymph node,too.I had one node in that area involved that was biopsied and had cancer cells in it but they can't tell from the ultra sound if it is the same one.
My oncologist mentioned trying to get me an appointment with a surgeon asap and now she wants to add Carboplatin. My oncologist did say the breast cancer breast looks fuller so maybe Taxol isn't working.They didn't even bother to look at the original tumor with the ultrasound to compare it to before chemo.
I will have radiation after surgery.
Rhond
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Hi Rhond,
I think that Carboplatin is an excellent alternative. It was my first choice too but my ONC said it might be too cardiotoxic for me. I think it is a strong reserve drug if the other drugs dont work.
Good luck and may God help us.
Gina
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Hello All
I will have a vaginal ultrasound, and if my lining has thickened again (had this issue prior to bc) then I will go on medication or have a minor surgical procedure. They nor I are worried about it being a cancer. Just another health thing to deal with. Otherwise my knees are much better and they feel the cortisone shots could have caused my issue.
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Hi Sylvia, Mary and all
Sylvia, I'm back again here. My friend with recurrence had mastectomy last Monday and unfortunately one lymph node involved. I'm so sorry for her that every now and then I'm in tears. It doesn't seem fair. She wasn't TN and was on tomoxifen.
Last week, I felt the hemorrhoids I've had since pregnancy and got worse during chemo had a tendency toward bleeding without any constipation. So I wasted no time and as my father is a colon cancer survivor, I rushed to the doctor's and she ordered a colonoscopy. On Monday I had it and thankfully everything was good without even a single polyp. I was so relieved.
Yet my friend's hard surgery and the terrible situation she is in don't leave me peaceful. I decided to see a psychiatrist tomorrow as I think I have got stuck in trapping emotions. I'm always giving her words of encouragement yet I'm devestated myself.
Rhond, you are in my deepest thoughts and prayers.
Mary congratulations on your achieving your 3-year cancer free. It's very important for us TNs. I wish you and all here a lifelong NED.
Love
Hanieh
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Hi Val,
I am glad you got good news!Have a nice weekend!
We are expecting more snow tonight and Sunday:)
Rhonda
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hi everyone
Second week done and I have driven home yesterday for the weekend and will drive back Monday morning. It is s six hour drive and temperatures outside the car hit 47 Celsius , I felt so sorry for the wildlife and u could see the Roos and emus try to find shade.
Haven't had any side effects from the rads as yet which is good, I still have peripheral neuropathy in my hands and feet and also some tingling in my lips and left cheek. I am s little concerned still about my shoulder which is not really a pain now it's more like a pressurewhich travels under my shoulder blade. I saw a physio last week who said it seems muscular but it is still a worry. I stRted to look up symptoms on the internet which I haven't done for quite s while but I soon stopped that because it frightened me so much.
Rhonda fingers crossed it's just an infection and I had some really sharp pains when on taxol so the pain u felt may have been the chemo
Doing my best to stay cool as it's 45 Celsius in Broken hill today hope everyone has a good weekend.
Cheers
Kat
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