Discouraged on Tamoxifen

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hello- this is my first post- please be patient :)

I started Tamoxifen on Oct 2016 and the side effects are really effecting my quality of life. I want to get off of it. Has anyone found a way to deal with the side effects ( dry eyes, leg cramps, weight gain, vaginal dryness, and just moody). This isn't ME! Any advice is welcomex

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  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited February 2017
    Hi TJL3,

    Welcome to the BCO discussion baords!

    We glad that you found us here and hope that the baords will be a good source of support and information for you.

    Many many members will understand your experience on Tamoxifen. You will find lots of other members to talk with in the very active thread in the link below.

    Bottle o Tamoxifen

    Wishing you well,

    The Moderators.

  • Lovinggrouches
    Lovinggrouches Member Posts: 530
    edited February 2017

    I've had the same problems. I use refresh vaginal gel once weekly to help out I have gained 15 pounds, have some mental fog issues and insomnia for which I take a prescription med. Effexor has greatlydecreased hot flashes and mood swings. Some new hip and joint pain, but I won't stop takingthat little pill!

  • TJL3
    TJL3 Member Posts: 8
    edited February 2017

    I admire your persistence!

    I am using a lubricant, taking lexapro, and gabapentin at night for night sweats. This has all helped, but its so many medications and my fatigue is awful. Imeet with my onc tomorrow, maybe she will talk me off the ledge.

    Have you heard that the side effects decrease the longer you take tamoxifen?

  • Bounce
    Bounce Member Posts: 574
    edited February 2017

    Exercise helped me cope with the side effects of Tamoxifen - especially the emotional side. However - I must warn - I either walked every day or rode a stationery bike. After a year and a half this led to some knee and hip problems - so I highly recommend exercise - but a variety of things.

    Start gently and work up and listen to your body - if something hurts - change what you are doing. I thought I would be brave and ride through the pain. Stupid thing to do.

    It took me half a year to settle down with Tamoxifen. I changed my diet too. I find alcohol (even in tiny quantities) causes hot flashes - as does ginger- which I was eating for its anti cancer properties.

    Diet changes are not always immediately noticeable so its quite difficult figuring out what works for you and what doesn't.

    Good luck.


  • amarantha
    amarantha Member Posts: 457
    edited February 2017

    HI TLJ3, sorry you're not enjoying being on Tamoxifen. I was on it for two and a half years (until it failed). Tamoxifen did not make me gain weight, but possibly made it tougher to shed my "chemo bloat". I started a very low carb diet the same day I went on Tamoxifen, and lost about 50 pounds in a year, then started to be less strict with the carbs, and some of the weight crept back on, but I did not climb back to pre-diet weight, and certainly did not gain more. As for hot flashes ... ay ay ay I think I just learned to live with them. I sleep with the window open unless it is freezing. The covers go on/off on/off on/off all night and sweaters off/on all day. As for leg cramps ... yes. And toe cramps. Dry eyes yes. And vagina ... I co-miserate :D sorry !

  • wke
    wke Member Posts: 10
    edited February 2017

    I started on Tamoxifen march 2016. The side effects (joint pain, fatigue, and hot flashes) were so awful that I cut it down to 10mg which made it at least bearable. Even only taking 10mg my periods suddenly totally stopped after 4 months of it and I had never missed one before.

    Up until about 2 weeks ago I was about ready to quit Tamoxifen altogether as the night sweats were getting worse and I was not getting nearly enough sleep.

    These last 2 weeks however the hot flashes and night sweats do not seem to be as bad so I'm hoping that I am through the worst after almost a year of taking it.

    I will not take a medication to counter a side effect of another medication. Less meds the better.


  • GiGiGarrison64
    GiGiGarrison64 Member Posts: 17
    edited February 2017

    I have found great relief from horrible hot flashes, brain fog, and low energy simply by changing my diet. I started a paleo type diet three weeks ago and have lost seven pounds, reduced the amount and intensity of hot flashes, and have great energy and sharper mental clarity since beginning my BC journey. Please give it a try!!! Cut out simple sugar and processed food. I'm also taking a low dose of ambien every night which is giving me a four to five hour stretch of solid sleep which has helpedso much! Best of luck and keep looking up...πŸ’ͺπŸ‘πŸŽ€πŸ™

  • obsolete
    obsolete Member Posts: 466
    edited March 2017

    Absolute Benefit for Early Hormone-Positive BC

    5 yr Anastrozole = 3% Absolute Risk Reduction

    5 yr Letrozole = 3% Absolute Risk Reduction

    2-3 yr Tamoxifen & 3% – 5% Absolute Risk Reduction

    2-3 yr Anastrozole or Exemestane

    5 yr Tamoxifen & 2-3 yr Letrozole 6% Absolute Risk Reduction

    April 2006 (Table 1)

    http://www.bcmj.org/article/new-guidelines-treatment-early-hormone-positive-breast-cancer-tamoxifen-and-aromatase-inhibi

    …...........................................................................................

    IBIS-I – High Risk Women

    5 yr Placebo = 350 out of 3575 = 10% failure

    5 yr Tamoxifen = 251 out of 3579 = 7% failure

    3% Benefit (Absolute)

    (Click on SUMMARY OF RESULTS)

    http://www.cancerresearchuk.org/about-cancer/find-a-clinical-trial/ibis-international-breast-cancer-intervention-study#undefined

    http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanonc/article/PIIS1470-2045(14)71171-4/abstract

    …...........................................................................................

    IBIS-II – High Risk Post-Menopausal Women

    5 yr Placebo = 85 out of 1944 = 4% failure

    5 yr Anastrozole = 40 out of 1920 = 2% failure

    2% Benefit (Absolute)

    http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(13)62292-8/abstract

    ….............................................................................................

    If anyone has more accurate and recent trial data, please post. Best wishes to all.

  • labelle
    labelle Member Posts: 721
    edited February 2017

    LIke GiGi, I follow a clean, pretty much Paleo type diet plan. I also take a lot of supplements, including fish oil and turmeric for inflammation and melatonin to help me sleep .

    Most of the side effects I've had with Tamoxifen have been temporary and transitory-about the time I'm ready to give it up, the SE lets up. I've had problems with joint (hips especially) pain, acne, both vaginal dryness and discharge at different times, but all seem to come and go with the exception of constipation which dogs me all the time since I started Tamoxifen. These days, I've caved after trying dietary changes and natural remedies, and just take Miralax most nights to keep me (almost) regular. I developed an ovarian cyst after starting tamoxifen and thickening of my endometrial lining, but as of my last TV ultrasound, the cyst is now shrinking (it never bothered me anyway) and my endometrial lining seems to be going back to close to normal per my gyno. In the last year, I've given myself a couple breaks (one for almost a month, the other for 10 days) from tamoxifen when the SE were starting to get to me and both times when I restarted it seemed to go better.

  • TJL3
    TJL3 Member Posts: 8
    edited February 2017

    thank you for your response - I admire your commitment!

  • hummingbirdlover
    hummingbirdlover Member Posts: 421
    edited February 2017

    Hello,

    I've been on Tamoxifen for 2 years now and although I do have some side effects, they don't seem as harsh as they were the first few months. I had horrible yeast type infections and vaginal dryness in the beginning so for a few months, I used a gentle cleanser "down there" (rather than soap) and it really seemed to help. I do have cramps (in my feet mainly) and hot flashes but I've been taking melatonin for a few months and I do think I sleep better. I've gained 15 pounds or so, but I lost 15 during my diagnosis and treatment so I'm back to square one. Do you take your tamoxifen at night? I do and figure (hopefully) I can sleep through many of the SEs. My MO offered to give me something to help with the hot flashes and to sleep but like someone mentioned above, I don't want to take yet another pill. He also said I could break the dose into two - half in the morning and half at night but I would probably forget to take it and I'm in a routine at bedtime now. Good luck! I know it's hard but I just try to consider it my battle partner.

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