December 2016 Surgeries
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Hi, Goingcrzy8! So you're accustomed to the sensation? I don't know why I absolutely hate to touch my chest where I had the MX. Guess I'll need to suck it up and just do it so I can put something on the scar. What did the PT mean by massaging from feet to shoulders...to increase circulation for healing? Where do you feel your scar tissue? I probably have that as well but who knows because I won't touch myself,lol!
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Keiki, you'll be the hottest 67-year-old (or 47-yr-old as far as others are concerned) out in the Gulf! I almost went double for symmetry's sake, but last minute decided against it because I wanted to have some feeling in my chest. That ended up being the best decision for me because I'm an absolute wus and don't think I could have handled a double, lol!
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Remdemptive 5 weeks post op so still some numbness and I feel some lumpiness. The surgeon says healing good. My friend said to massage opposite way of scar, so up and down vs across the scar. I notice the scar is looking good with the scar gel and vit e.
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Greetings Warriors!!!
It has been three and a half weeks since my surgery bilateral mastectomy with expanders. We should be done with the saline injections by the end of January or early February. My plastic surgeon said that we can schedule the silicone transplant in April. He said it will be an outpatient surgery. He also said he will decide during surgery whether to transfer fat (lipo suction) from my tummy to have fullness or wait until December when all surgeries have settled down.
Two nodes were removed on each side. Both of my surgeons said that Pathologist report shows good results and that I most likely not need radiation or chemotherapy. Oncologist will be the one who will confirm all of these good news!!! I have an appointment next week, on January 19th. I'm super excited!!!
God bless you all! You are all Warriorsand Victors!!!
Thank you all of your prayers! Thank you for sharing your journeys!!!
Row
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Did you keep your nips? Have you discussed sizing with PS? Be sure to see Implant sizing 101 for great info. I sent PM re photos. Good luck on the 1/19 appointment. Keep us posted.
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Kav327, I highly encourage getting second opinions. I did so for all my treatment decisions, but yes, I had 2 different MOs plus a tumor board say no to chemo when I had 2 positive nodes.
On the other hand, I did have a 2nd opinion for radiation therapy last week with a great RO and although I'm in the grey zone, she wants me to consider it. It's tough making all these decisions.
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Thank you! I need all the luck and prayers! Yes, I had a the surgery with nipple sparing. Thank you for your PM, Keiki!
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Hi everyone,
I apologize for not being active. Everyone seemed to be moving on to the Chemotherapy forums or other areas, so I was just going to let this fade away. It seems that it's still serving a purpose, though, so I'm glad I was wrong!
I begin chemo in January and that forum seems so much less supportive than this one that I was feeling a little adrift. But I'll make it through it.
Redemptive, I have a hard time touching my breast, too. It's not that I think it's gross... it's just numb, and so I avoid it. It's almost like when it's really dry and I avoid touching metal because I know I'll get shocked. It's kind of like that - an avoidance thing. I've put lotion on it one time. When I shower, I use a washcloth, so I don't touch it directly. I don't know what's wrong with me. But it sounds like we're both having issues.
I'm having more pain/nerve issues on my right from my Dec. 29 sentinel node biopsy than anything else they've done. It's odd because I've had zero issues from the biopsy on the left. BUT that one was done while inside (during the MX), not through the skin during a separate surgery under my arm. It doesn't hurt at the incision, but on my upper arm, from elbow to shoulder, and not all the time. It's just weird and aggravating and nagging. And I'm pouting about it. Sorry!
Welcome to newcomers, especially MusicianfromMaine who PMed me. Please introduce yourself and jump right in!
Journey
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My nerve pain was relieved by putting my hand over my TE, now my implant, and jiggling a bit. My TE was a perfect handful. I had nip healing issues so I never used a washcloth. At EX the surgical bra seam caused bleeding, I'm so thin skinned. I wear a very thin cheap $1.64 Walmart cami under surg bra now to protect the girls. I put coconut oil or Palmers cocoa butter on at least daily. Eau de Whitmans Sampler! I wash with a cosmetic cotton puff and still use tiniest bit of Hibiclens.
I use a 10x hand mirror to examine daily. I actually touch them a lot. Poor things are seldom uncovered. I try to give them air an hour daily but I'm so afraid of them moving. I asked my PS about it, she said they are not going anywhere. Jeez, I'm talking about my breasts like they are newly acquired pets.
I just started using scar strips on incision and I got an underwire sports bra. That combo is very comfortable. Strips protect the incision which is still very tender.I start PT next week, can barely open the car door.
I had a total hysterectomy over 20 years ago and HRT. The last 15 years I had a Femring like Estring. Worked great, minimal estrogen systemic but prevented hot flashes. Had to stop when diagnosed. It's 2AM, I'm sweating like a pig, waiting for my sleeping pill to take effect. It's good for 4 hours. Anxiety caused my blood pressure to spike over 200/100 so I take a pill for that that has off label use for hot flashes. Doesn't seem to be helping tonight.
Each hospital visit I was sent home with a bottle of Narco and a bottle of ducosate sodium. I have Xanax for two years if I want it. That's how they handle us elderly people in Florida, land of pill mills. I can see how one could get in trouble with drugs. I am very careful, don't even have wine if I'm using meds.
So many things to take your mind off the cancer. I got off easy.
Row, hope you dodge the chemo/rads bullet, too.
Better living through chemistry.Nightly night.
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keiki - what are the scar strips you are using? I had my exchange recently and the incisions have healed nicely, but still really visible
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I'm using Walgreens brand invisible 3" strips. They are hard to handle, think Saran Wrap with sticky on one side. If you use a little soap and water they are easier to untangle. My incisions are 5". The 3" make curving easier. Next I will try the flesh colored ones, I perceive them to be thicker and IMF protection is important. They come 7" long. I use Kelocote or Mederma when not using strips- left over from face surgery. I don't put strips on nips, skin so delicate.
In reading the topic on scars, it seems massage is more important than product but you never know. I wish breast surgeons would use the protocol for c sections and hysterectomy incisions.
I'm going to our boat first time to wash and tidy. I'm wearing thin cami, Natori 731439 sports braoverand thick tee shirt. I feel totally armored.
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I second the scar strips idea. Silicone scar sheets are one of the only things that have evidence behind them for minimizing scars. I've been using ScarSheetMD ones, cut to size so i can be thrifty about it. They last for two days and look blurry/clear like scotch tape. The week before my re-excision surgery i used them on the lower half only and after just a few days could see a difference in the healing. I was surprised.
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So met with the RO today, she had the results of my cat scan, they found a mass in my left kidney. Now I need to see a urologist and I hope and pray it is not cancer. This is just not fair.
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Goincrzy8: I am praying with you. How soon can you get in to see the urologist?
MyJourneys: Yes, like you, it's not that I think that it's disgusting I just can't stand the numb type sensation. I try to touch my chest area as little as possible. I flinch every time the PS touches it and he tells me I'm tense, lol. He simply has no idea. I'm so sorry you're having issues from your SNB. In one way it seems strange that it comes and goes, but do you think it has to do w/nerves reattaching? Maybe that's a good thing. What does your PS/BS say about it? BTW...you're not pouting! :-)
Keiki: Since you say you touch your chest a lot, I'm curious if the sensation bothers you at all or you're accustomed to it? Maybe it feels better, even to the touch, w/an implant vs. TE?
Row: I'm happy for all of your good news! -
Redemptive
When I had my BMX I touched my nips a lot to be sure they were still warm and alive. My breast skin has no sensation but if I press the muscle has feeling. I can move the touch until I encounter skin with sensation. It is very curious. Nerve repair happens so maybe the sensation will spread. My breasts were never particularly sensitive so not bothersome to me. They are cool sometimes, I don't like that. The TE was the same
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goincrazy8- I feel you! A mass on my right kidney was found in a PET scan after my BC diagnosis. It was big measuring at 6.7 and per a urologist, very likely to be cancer. Even if not, they recommended removal of kidney due to size- but tabled surgery until after chemo & mastectomy was done. I had it removed Wednesday of last week- and yes, mass was confirmed to be chromophobe renal cell carcinoma (a rare form of kidney cancer). Take a deep breath- if you need to vent, PM me. It really isn't fair to be dealt 2 forms of cancer at once.
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GoinCrzy and Pepper, I'm so sorry to hear about your kidney issues. You already have so much to deal with. Did any of your lab work show possible signs? My levels on my blood test are showing high in two areas, and when I google it, it has me concerned. I'm sorry you have to worry about that in addition to everything else.
Welcome to DeeEm, who had BMX with Sentinel lymph node biopsy on the right on December 16. DeeEm, tell us how you're doing.
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Hi to all of the strong ladies reading this,
I had bilat mastectomy in December 2016 for DCIS on left and ILC on right, both primary sites. Sentinel lymph node biopsy done on right at time of mastectomy was negative. No SLN biopsy was done on left as we thought we were only dealing with DCIS. However, a 2 mm area of invasive ductal was found during examination of the left breast tissue during pathology. This was a surprise. This area turned out to be Her 2 positive, ER -, PR - I'm so discouraged that a SLN biopsy on that side wasn't obtained. 3 lymph nodes were found in the mammary tissue and those were negative, which is reassuring. My oncologist states no need for herceptin or any chemotherapy for a 2 mm area with no evidence of lymph node involvement. No radiation either. I'm on Tamoxifen for the invasive lobular that was in the right and was ER+, PR-, Her2 -. I am just so anxious because the pathology findings indicate that this very small area of invasive ductal found in the left tissue was highly aggressive. I'm getting a second opinion which will take a month, to make sure that no further treatment is recommended in this situation. I can't find a whole lot of info on treating Her 2 + cancer with no evidence of lymph node involvement after a mastectomy, with consideration given that the actual sentinel lymph nodes weren't tested. If anyone has familiarity with treatment of this type situation, it would be appreciated!
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so got the auth for the Port YEA!!!! but now surgeon wants consult before port. I asked why we cant just do port.So the way its going now on the Feb chemo list. I am hoping he can do the Friday after our consult.
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Hi everyone, I'm new here. Everything went very quickly for me. I was diagnosed on 12/12/16 and I just had my nipple sparing BMX with reconstruction on Dec 27th (right side was prophylactic) and am planning to return to work (teaching) tomorrow! No need for chemo or radiation. I started taking letrozole about two weeks ago. So far, so good, but still sore from the tissue expanders. Being 5 weeks out, I'm still having trouble getting comfortable sleeping at night. I'm a side sleeper and I feel like the TEs are under my armpits when I try to sleep on my side. Maybe I shouldn't be on my side anyway? I also have seen my chiropractor once since the surgery (3 weeks out). I wasn't able to lay on my tummy, but he did adjust my hips and neck. I'm wondering how long I should wait before laying on my stomach for an adjustment?
Anyway, I'm so grateful to have found this thread and connect with my other December surgeries! Good luck to everyone.
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Welcome, eemax! Sounds like you're doing great! I haven't slept through the night since my mastectomy (left) Dec. 6th. I think it's primarily because of the TE. I mostly slept on my left side. At least I can sleep on my right and angle somewhat toward my left. :-) I know it will get better...for all of us! Best of wishes to you now that you're back at work! ~ Kim
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I am so tired of sleeping on recliner!!! And now that my right breast has been fully inflated for rads starting next week, I'm sure sleeping in bed would be even worse. I'm now having neck issues from recliner sleep so I bought one of those neck travel pillows in the hopes it will help prevent soreness & immobility in neck in the morning. When will this get better??????
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i hear, ya, Pepper43! I still sleep in my hospital bed so I can angle it for better comfort. I've tried my actual bed a couple times and was surprised I could sleep there but returned to the hospital bed after my last fill...it was pretty uncomfortable for 2 - 3 days. I hope the neck pillow works for you. Maybe after your pain subsides in a couple days you can try your bed w/lots of pillows. By any chance are you suffering from insomnia? I am and gather that it's fairly common. I keep telling myself all of this will get better...and some things have. Even if they're small improvements I do my best to focus on those. :-) How long will your rads last?
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I had my BMX 12/9 and am still sleeping on my back with lots of pillows. I wake up slid sown and boy to my TEs fill tight. I haven't slept through a night either.
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Lilo, I'm sorry you're not sleeping through the night either! Sadly, though, as with all of this new territory, it's kind of comforting knowing that I'm not alone. Have you tried anything to help you sleep? I recently asked my doc for a prescription for Ambien but haven't taken it yet.
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I'm with you as far as not sleeping in my bed. It's the expanders that make it hard for me to lay flat. I have an electric recliner that I moved into my bedroom. I sleep great in it, but when I try the bed I'm uncomfortable. They didn't expect me to need chemo, but my Oncotype DX score disagreed! Now, I'm stuck with these expanders until at least May! ugh! I've read that cannabis in various forms can really help with sleep. Unfortunately, I live in Missouri and it's not user friendly here. I've heard the spray is great, but I haven't found an easy way to get it and I don't really want to get stoned! Chemo brain is bad enough, so I don't need to be altered! If any of you live in a cannabis friendly state, try the spray or the oil.
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Redemptive- 25 treatments (and hopefully no boosts).
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Catgirl, i won't be too far ahead of you with the TE exchange! (I just have one - left side) I got my last fill a couple of weeks ago and my PS says he likes to keep them in for 3 months before the exchange! Somehow I missed that bit of info during our first discussion. I'm looking at the end of April before mine is removed. Praying sleep improves then. I'd gladly try the cannabis if I could legally. It became legal in AL just last year, but only for use in patients who suffer from seizures...I believe.
Pepper, I'm not sure how long that is spread out but I hope it goes very quickly for you and w/no SEs. -
ladies are any of you on Vicodin? It seems to help with the tightness and relaxes me enough to sleep... agree pot can also help. I hat the tTE
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I've not taken vicodin. Glad it works for you! Looking forward to getting this TE out! Most say the final results are worth it and it feels SO MUCH better once it's removed. I keep holding on to that!! :-)
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