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  • wintersocks
    wintersocks Member Posts: 922
    edited January 2017

    BB ,

    Hi there,

    yes I have problems with high cholesterol - revealed at my last lot of blood tests. Never had this before. I have to get the test repeated in about 2 months.

  • ThinkingPositive
    ThinkingPositive Member Posts: 834
    edited January 2017

    I am as well. My total cholesterol shot up to 210 and my A1C was at 5.6. That was about 1 1/2 years after I started fermara. Oh and the weight gain, any one else have that happen? So I dieted and lost 14 lbs and retested. Total cholesterol was 195. Same A1C. Vacation time comes and I get home and go for blood work for reconstruction surgery. Glucose was 110 and my AST and ALT levels were high. Wondering if this could have been caused my vacation drinking and not eating right??? Now I have to go for full blood work again it's been six months since last full blood test and I am trying lose but some weight so that my little levels are down. Hopefully!!

  • tangandchris
    tangandchris Member Posts: 1,855
    edited January 2017

    My weight is the highest it has ever been and I don't know if its the meds or not. I've always had the weight struggle, but now worse than ever. I am now making more of an effort in eating better and exercising more, so we'll see if anything changes. My AST and ALT's are elevated too, I've been told NAFL is the culprit. Also never had this issue prior to BC treatment.

  • ThinkingPositive
    ThinkingPositive Member Posts: 834
    edited January 2017

    tangandchris... I never had this problem either with the ast and alt... makes me worry. I have been on fermara since feb 2015 and never had elevations at all. I was in Cancun the week before I had the blood work done and had to drink while I was there of course!!...I don't generally drink at all, but I was away... and its all the sugary drinks which possibly and hopefully is the cause for the elevations. Still haven't gone for the repeat blood work, working hard on losing some weight and not eating any sugar. How elevated were your levels?

  • tangandchris
    tangandchris Member Posts: 1,855
    edited January 2017

    Thinkingpositive-My numbers weren't crazy elevated, not even 10 points higher but enough to make MO make me do extra testing. Also enough to make me worry :)

    So, I found out in the last couple of weeks I need a total knee replacement on my right knee, I have bone on bone arthritis now and my left while not as bad is moderate. I'm telling you.....I never had this before all this treatment. I emailed MO's nurse today to see if there is a connection between arthritis and chemo, she hasn't answered me. I know I have arthritis in my feet now too just from the pain I'm experiencing, I haven't gone to a foot specialist yet. It's unreal and quite frankly depressing, 43 years old and dealing with major health problems all over the place.

  • ShetlandPony
    ShetlandPony Member Posts: 4,924
    edited January 2017

    My health insurance provider was changed this year, to a company comparable to the previous one. It is "good" insurance. But when I tried to refill my letrozole, they said it was excluded from the plan. What the heck! Such a common drug. Has anyone had a similar problem? Brand name Femara, anastrozole, Arimidex, not covered either. There isn't anything else in its class. This does not make sense.

  • ChiSandy
    ChiSandy Member Posts: 12,133
    edited January 2017

    WTF??? I figured out why when I switched to a different carrier for Medicare Part D (Humana) than I'd had for my regular insurance (United) my generic letrozole wasn’t covered…my pharmacist absentmindedly kept submitting the ‘scrip to United, which of course (justifiably) denied it because I was no longer their insured. I found this out only when I called Humana angrily, and the customer service rep said it was a Tier 1 generic, dirt cheap but they never had an Rx submitted to them. Called the pharmacy back, and the other pharmacist (the owner’s daughter) discovered her dad, even though my Humana card was in the system, had never tried getting an auth. from Humana. She instantly got approval, and my monthly cost dropped from $30 to $9.

    Perhaps your carrier requires a prior auth? I would bypass your pharmacy and call your new carrier. Or maybe you can access its formulary via its website—it’s utterly bizarre that it wouldn’t be covered (at least as a generic) because it is so relatively cheap and standard-of-care. Did your pharmacist mistakenly submit the scrip to your old, now cancelled, insurer the way mine had?

    Another possibility is that you might have to switch to another in-network (or—ugh—mail-order) pharmacy: for instance, were I to get my letrozole from Kellogg Cancer Center’s pharmacy I would have to go totally out of pocket. And if I filled my scrip at Walgreen’s or Wal-Mart (“preferred in-network”) instead of my neighborhood indie (“non-preferred in-network”), I might be stuck with a version with more side effects but it would be as low as $5 or even no co-pay. (CVS, where I get all my other prescriptions, is also “non-preferred in-network,” but they--like the mail-order company, Walgreens, Costco & Wal-Mart—told me “you get whatever mfr. our distributor sells us”).

  • ShetlandPony
    ShetlandPony Member Posts: 4,924
    edited January 2017

    Thanks for your reply, ChiSandy. No, I called the prescription benefits number for the plan, and the lady checked and said it is excluded. I asked about three other drugs for family members, and they are all on the formulary, but not mine. All she could offer me was the phone number for appeals.

  • AmyfromMI
    AmyfromMI Member Posts: 241
    edited January 2017

    Shetland Pony, please let us know what happens. My heart goes out to you. I had a friend post on Facebook yesterday that she can no longer get a life saving med for a blood disorder she has "because her platelet count is normal." That's what the medicine is for to keep her count normal! Ugh. She's looking at $14,000+ for a three month supply. I really hope your doctor can help you with this. It's insane

  • Chloesmom
    Chloesmom Member Posts: 1,053
    edited January 2017

    Gained a pound a month 18 in 1 1/2 years on letrozole. Last time I was that heavy was right before delivering my children. Have been on a very low carb diet since August and finally back down in size. Not sure if it was the chemo or letrozole that messed with my metabolism. I was always hungry and shaky like I needed to eat, but tired and no energy . Think all the calories for energy was being stored as fat. Lots more energy mow. And back down 2 sizes to wear my clothes again.

  • gardengypsy
    gardengypsy Member Posts: 769
    edited January 2017

    Chloesmom~ I am trying to psych myself up about saying goodbye to those carbs!!! I know something has wrecked my metabolism.BC (before cancer) I could eat anything!! I need spring to come around so I can get back outdoors and exercise. Winter is when I gain.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2017

    Chloesmom, Congrats on losing the weight! I also gained a significant amount of weight during chemo, but have lost it all.

  • octogirl
    octogirl Member Posts: 2,804
    edited January 2017

    Shetland, that really surprises me since it is in fact such a standard drug. I wouldn't rule out the possibility that the person who told you it wasn't on the formulary is wrong: I was given similar information from my insurer over the phone about a year ago that turned out to simply be incorrect. I'd file the appeal ASAP and ask your doc to weigh in on it as well. File the appeal AND have your MO call.

    I guess the 'good' news is that it is an inexpensive drug (at least in generic form). I just went to refill a month's supply (which is all my insurance will let me have at a time, so be sure that isn't part of the issue as well, just a minor inconvenience to go back every month rather than every three months...). Anyway, my employer had changed insurance providers, and when they rang it up, it showed as no insurance (because the old one had expired and they had no information on the new one). Cost even without insurance was about $26, but that was for BOTH letrozole and for a month's supply of Rx strength Vitamin D I was refilling at the same time (I whipped out the new insurance card and it went down to $8 for both). Still, just as I wasn't going to pay even $18 extra for the two prescriptions, you should definitely follow up! Good luck!

    Octogirl

  • peaches1
    peaches1 Member Posts: 137
    edited January 2017

    Can you go on your insurance website, and see if they cover the drug? I would also try to appeal it though if it is not covered. I am a really big fan of the goodrx.com site. You can go on their site and enter in your zipcode, the drug, and what kind of insurance you have, and it will tell you the cheapest pharmacies you can get it at, and whether you should use your insurance, or just use their card or one of their coupons. I am on medicare, and I found that this ointment that I was given a prescription for was $247 at Sams Club with my part D. I asked how much it was without my part D, and it was $188, which was still too much money. I decided I would rather suffer than pay that much. A few days later, I went on goodrx.com, and found I could get it at CVS for $39 with one of their coupons. There coupon would not scan at CVS, and so they scanned a goodrx card, and the price came down to $44. The pharmacist overheard our conversation, and showed me an over the counter ointment that was equivalent to my prescription that was only $33, and so I ended up getting that.

    I am on letrezole, and I got it at Sam's Club last month for $12 for a 90 day supply using my part D, and it was teva brand too. I have been taking it for 6 weeks, and so far I have not had any side effects except for a minor amount of joint pain. I had joint pain before I started taking it though, and so I am not sure that the femera caused the increase in joint pain in my hips and knees.


  • gardengypsy
    gardengypsy Member Posts: 769
    edited January 2017

    What's the difference between Femara and Letrozole?

  • peaches1
    peaches1 Member Posts: 137
    edited January 2017

    Letrozole is just the generic version of femara. Some generic versions, such as those manufactured by Sun and Accord, have a lot more additives than femara does, and thus have more side effects.

  • gardengypsy
    gardengypsy Member Posts: 769
    edited January 2017

    Thanks, Peaches.

    So my goal is to find Teva brand??

  • Bliss58
    Bliss58 Member Posts: 1,154
    edited January 2017

    Teva is the brand I get and has worked well for me and many here. My joint discomfort is much better than when I was on Anastrozole. I do have more hot flashes, but I'll take it over pain, otherwise I'm doing well on it. I've also read the Roxane brand is good and may have the fewest fillers.

  • ChiSandy
    ChiSandy Member Posts: 12,133
    edited January 2017

    Gardengypsy, you might want to see if you can get the Roxane letrozole. It has the fewest additives of all, fewer even than brand-name Femara.

  • gardengypsy
    gardengypsy Member Posts: 769
    edited January 2017

    Thanks all! I called the pharmacist. He had a brand called, "Breckinridge." I asked him to find me some Teva. He said, "ok.""

  • KBeee
    KBeee Member Posts: 5,109
    edited January 2017

    BosumBlues, I think high cholesterol can be a side effect of Letrozole...all brands. There are recent published reports that statins can decrease breast cancer recurrence, so I suppose there's a silver lining if you'd decide to say on one, but who really wants to take ANOTHER medication to deal with the side effects of other medications. Uuugh.

  • gardengypsy
    gardengypsy Member Posts: 769
    edited February 2017

    Chi~

    If the Teva isn't good to me, I will try Roxane.. Just wrote it down. Thanks again!

  • ShetlandPony
    ShetlandPony Member Posts: 4,924
    edited February 2017

    To follow up about letrozole being excluded from my insurance plan -- My amazing oncology nurse had submitted whatever was needed to appeal and I was going to get the prescription, but then we found out from my scan that I need to change treatments anyway. A nurse who knows how to deal with such things can save her patient a lot of trouble and worry. She got my new stuff approved with lightning speed. (I'm going to Faslodex and Afinitor, unless I opt for a trial.)

  • ShetlandPony
    ShetlandPony Member Posts: 4,924
    edited February 2017

    Reposting something I wrote earlier because it applies to the current topic of brands:

    Mylan and Teva have no talc but do have FD&C colors, while Accord and Novartis have no FD&C colors, but do have talc.

    Lactose is the first inactive ingredient for Sun and Roxane. But lactose is only the fourth or sixth ingredient on Mylan, Teva, Accord, and Novartis.

    (Edited to correct where I had typed Teva instead of Accord in the second part of the second sentence.)

  • peaches1
    peaches1 Member Posts: 137
    edited February 2017

    I am already on 40 mg of atorvastatin, because I have genetic cholesterol problems. The last time I had my cholesterol tested a few months ago, it was 201. I hope it does not go up a lot after being on letrozole a few months. I was concerned about going on the letrozole in the first place because I was afraid it was raise my cholesterol some more, and I asked one of my sisters who is an endocrinologist, and is a lip specialist about that, and she told me that they might have to raise the amount of atorvastatin I take. She said that all AI's have to potential to raise your cholesterol. I have been more careful about what I eat, because I am trying to lose some weight, and so maybe that will keep my cholesterol in check.

  • Bright55
    Bright55 Member Posts: 176
    edited February 2017

    hi

    Research indicates that statins are important to our med regime

    maybe try reducing dosage instead of stopping alltogther see how this goes

    check with gp though

    Good luck

  • gardengypsy
    gardengypsy Member Posts: 769
    edited February 2017

    Bosum~

    Indeed, everything can change in a minute.

    What's needed these days is a collaboration between different specialists so that everyone involved in your "Survivorship Care Plan" is on the same page - it should be Integrative.

    Today, my onc upped my dose of Gabapentin. We'll see how I do with 300 3x a day=900

  • gardengypsy
    gardengypsy Member Posts: 769
    edited February 2017

    Shetland ~ Important information , thanks. Would you clarify that post?

  • Chloesmom
    Chloesmom Member Posts: 1,053
    edited February 2017

    The trigger thumbs were all better but now back for 3rd time. MO wanted me to quit the letrozole after the first time. But its better than the other 2. I am afraid to quit so just soldier on. If the cancer comes backat least i can say i tried my level best

  • peaches1
    peaches1 Member Posts: 137
    edited February 2017

    BB- Are you sure that the lipitor is causing the neuropathy? I looked up the potential side effects, and there is a .1% chance that lipitor could cause neuropathy. I think the neuropathy could much more likely be caused by uncontrolled blood sugar, and getting your blood sugar under control could help with that.

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