Starting Rads in January 2017

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  • CC2016
    CC2016 Member Posts: 107
    edited January 2017

    At my planning scan this week I found one reason why we don't immediately get creams. I was told not to use anything yet because depending on the reaction will call for different treatments. Although I'm mostly hearing pinks and burnt so what else do you need to start the process?

    I was totally unprepared for the tattoos too. Doc used the word "marks" not tattoos during the initial consultation. I've read the word on this board but have been in a bit of a haze and couldn't remember if anyone actually said temporary or I just hoped they did. I asked. Mine are permanent but "might" fade over time. I don't have a constellation and am super pale. It looks like a pen splattered. Maybe not that bad but the downplay of what I've been told already and what's coming is concerning. And it's coming this week.

    I've been dealing with some major neuropathy as well. Got to the heels this past week and tingling in my arms and legs as well. I had my port removed about 10 days ago and was told to stop taking my multivitamin a week prior. Being a good girl I did what I was told. Okay, fine, I ran out around the right time. And then forgot to get more until a few days post. I had also read b6 is good for neuropathy. When I finally got them there was no b6 at this store and I was too tired to go anywhere else so got b complex. I've been taking them quite regularly this week, which is amazing for me, and the pain is subsiding. I'm not sure if this really is what's best but it's doing something and making it more than tolerable.

  • ElizabethAM
    ElizabethAM Member Posts: 245
    edited January 2017

    SuMarie -- I too have neurophathy and same as you my hands are less affected than my feet. I have started taking vitamins B-6 and B-12 which are supposed to help with nerves... I am hoping it will help. In some of the readings I have done, it is recommended to ice or heat. So far I have used heat on mine and it seems to help some.

    Div -- Glad you are having a nice relaxing weekend.

    Hope the same for everyone else.

  • brigid_TO
    brigid_TO Member Posts: 75
    edited January 2017

    All I can say is "my poor boob!" Now a dark pink/light red with the radiation treatment outlines very visible. It doesn't feel too bad more of the occasional shooting pains many of us are familiar with-the kind that make you wince for a second. Some itchiness at the clavicle, soreness under the armpit and nipple. A word of advice for the about to be or newly radiated be certain to get your lotions/potions under your armpit- I think I was not as diligent there and can see the difference. I am also just plain tired out this weekend- still doing things but not a lot of motivation or energy.

    The above was my short whine- really it is all not too bad- definitely do-able, hoping to truly turn the corner soon. 3 more boosts left this coming week (18/21). For those just starting or waiting to start- you can do this. You just grit your teeth and wait for the time to pass and it does pretty quickly.

    Best to everyone who reads this.

    Keep moving around and drinking that water ladies!

  • SuMarie
    SuMarie Member Posts: 37
    edited January 2017

    hello everybody.

    Warrior6 - thanks for the compliment & encouragement.

    ElizabethAM - I'm going to try the vitamin B. I have been getting some vitamin B shots, Neurobion, from my MD. I haven't noticed it helping any. Maybe it would be a lot worse without the shots.

    CC2016 - I'm sorry you had to go throw that tattoo experience. It seems like with BC it's just one thing after another. Someone once said that 'it's the gift that keeps on giving'.

    Brigid TO - good point, in radiation I'm gritting my teeth and bearing it.

    I've been doing some research and it said that the neuropathy usually starts during your last chemos and gets progressively worse before it goes away.

    I'm working part time and things pile up at home. It's frustrating I don't have the energy to tackle my to do list. Emotionally it's difficult for me. I've been asking my husband for help. And I've been lowering my standard toward house cleaning. He's very helpful and he likes things neat and clean too. I asked him if he'd scrub the shower stall today and he said yes, but it's already late afternoon here and he's excited about riding his bike. I'm telling myself: I've had BC and that's a problem, the world isn't going to apart if the bathroom isn't spic n span. My rant is: I really miss having good health and energy. Ok, rant over.

    The last few days I haven't been able to wear a bra because it's too uncomfortable. I'm an A cup, so having one boob shouldn't be that much of a problem - but I'm having a hard time finding the right tops.

    Y'all, have a nice Sunday.


  • Vix1970
    Vix1970 Member Posts: 12
    edited January 2017

    hello everyone. I'm on day 7 of 20 here so far so good skin wise but I'm so fatigued I slep almost all day yesterday and I have a really sore shoulder, collar bone neck and lung, They just hurt the whole time now. Looking forward to getting finished.

  • Caligirl55
    Caligirl55 Member Posts: 486
    edited January 2017

    Hello ladies... I am glad to read this tonight as I have lots of aches and pains and the neuropathy on my feet is bugging me and I'm so tired all the time I at least know I'm not alone. Sometimes it gets so exhausting just being exhausted ...but it's great to know I'm not alone. Being back at work is just adding to it all.

    My boob is getting much redder and itching has hit. I have used all my lotions and potions like I was told to.

    SuMarie... I think this is just an emotional time for us all...look what we've been through. I have not been able to stand wearing my wigs I bought..I feel like I look so old and tired with my caps ...and it makes me cry sometimes that I don't even look like myself ..bad enough I don't feel like myself. There is my rant...

    CO2016....I guess the tattoos are our bonus..lol one more lovely thing to endure.

    brigid...I am having a hard time drinking enough water.

    Vix1070... Welcome...I have sore neck and shoulder but it's on my good side. My back is hurting...I just feel like every bone is aching as my radiation goes on. I'm 18 of 33 so far. I feel like I have more days then most of you.

  • Germangirl16
    Germangirl16 Member Posts: 97
    edited January 2017

    Starting my 2nd week of radiation today, plus I have my herceptin infusion on Wednesday. Hope my body holds up with this "double whammy" this week!

  • SuMarie
    SuMarie Member Posts: 37
    edited January 2017

    hello Ladies, seems like the neuropathy is a major problem for many of us. Then the exhaustion and pain from the radiation. My oncologist says these are common side effects but that doesn't make it any easier.

    Germangirl16 - I hope you're body holds up too! We are resilient. And our bodies are too. Hang in there.

    Cali girl55 - I can sure relate to you about not looking like myself. I've been without hair for 6 months and I never get used to looking at myself in the mirror. Every single time it surprises and pains me. I'm sorry you have 33 rounds. Please trust the doctors know what's best for you.

    ElizabethAM - I hope you have a good day today and that the pain isn't too bad.

    I'm going in for my 16th of 25 rads right now. I'm feeling very sad today. I need to meditate on some positive and happy thoughts.

  • RitaR551
    RitaR551 Member Posts: 42
    edited January 2017

    Today was 9th of 33 rads. Last Thursday and Friday the fatigue hit with a vengeance. I was surprised it hit so early on. I perked up a bit over the weekend, then a couple hours after rad treatment, it came roaring back. I wonder if it will get more intense with each treatment or if this is the level it stays at. I will be walking or sitting and my eyes just close. If I'm sitting, I will cat nap. Also, I have trouble finding my words. It's just intense fatigue. Then I'll bounce back for a little bit

  • Pammac47
    Pammac47 Member Posts: 128
    edited January 2017

    Cali girl-

    I too have the intense itching I think I'm on #23/33 now, somewhere?? My skin is breaking down. The neuropathy is terrible in feet and fingers. My sciatica acting up and I'm gimping with my cane. I'm so glad I don't have to go to work, I have no idea how you all do this?? I'm so freaking tired around noon now, it's like a wave washed over me. Good Wishes going out to all and to those going through pain, I hear you.

  • SuMarie
    SuMarie Member Posts: 37
    edited January 2017

    hello Ladies.

    RitaR551 - yes the fatigue is brutal. I can relate to you. I feel like a zombie sometimes. (A nice one)

    Pammac47 - I get you on the pain. I'm working part time but I don't think that will last much longer.

    Yesterday the radiation machine broke down! I called at 10:25 a.m. to confirm that I would see the doctorafter my 2 p.m. radiation. Then the machine breaks down at 10:30a.m. They didn't call to tell me because I had to come in to see the doctor anyway. And the machine is still broke today! I just can't believe it! I texted my RO and said I was really worried. He wrote back that us patient will have to make up for it on the weekends.

    So I've done 15 of 25 rads, missed yesterday and today because of the breakdown. I really want to get this over with. I'm so disappointed.

    Warm thoughts to all of you.

  • RitaR551
    RitaR551 Member Posts: 42
    edited January 2017

    SuMarie- thank you! I feel validated. Each Tuesday I see one of the rad doctors and the one today was new to me. She completely downplayed, minimized, and dismissed the fatigue impact. Because "you seem like an active person, so it shouldn't be too bad" I was left feeling like maybe I'm imagining dragging my feet, having trouble concentrating, and sleeping more.

  • ElizabethAM
    ElizabethAM Member Posts: 245
    edited January 2017

    SuMarie -- I know how you feel. I have fewer sessions than you,, but I really want it over. Between Chemo and Rads, I feel like I should just pitch a tent next to the Clinic since I spend so much time there.

    Rita -- The fatigue is not in your imagination. Next time ask her if she has ever had the radiation treatment herself. If the answer is no, tell her to go to hell.

    For me, I have completed 11/16 treatments. I'm tired and my boob has started to turn pink. My shortness of breath has gotten much better as has the stomach gas. I'll be glad to see if it improves more once this treatment is done.



  • CC2016
    CC2016 Member Posts: 107
    edited January 2017

    #1/30 done today. Chink, chink, chink...heading up the roller coaster...

  • JenRich
    JenRich Member Posts: 13
    edited January 2017

    Thanks to all you lovely ladies for talking about how it really is... I finished 15/22 today, and although I really want to be upbeat-this is no big deal-happy face for the whole world girl.... sometime this shit just sucks, and it makes me feel a little better to know I'm not the only one. Here's my rant... red, itchy, weepy bumps, mostly on chest where I've gotten more sun exposure in my life, and it's a part where they are using electrons instead of protons (whatever that means :) Dog tired (drive in traffic at 6am, rads at 7:15am, drive in more traffic until 8:30am and work until 6pm... eat...fall into bed and do it again) And I sprained my ankle a couple of weeks ago, and it just doesn't seem to be healing at all... So... bitch moan bitch moan.

    But on the other hand, there are a bunch of amazing, supportive people here who mostly ARE upbeat, and happy, and don't mind too much if you need to complain some. And I am reminded of how very lucky I am. And I'll be at 18/22 at the end of this week... and then at the end of next week, I'll be ringing the bell (that's what they do at MDAnderson when you finish rads) Happy day everyone, and thank you all so much for being here!

  • Kattis894
    Kattis894 Member Posts: 218
    edited January 2017

    I am off to my first radiation tomorrow...can´t wait (just kidding) have 5 weeks so got to figure out how many rounds...the nightmare continues...

  • JShannon
    JShannon Member Posts: 14
    edited January 2017

    CC2016 - I had my #1/30 today also.

    They drew all over my chest showing how big the area is they are radiating. I am shocked at how big it is. I will ask tomorrow if they are really treating that whole area.

    Thanks to all of you for sharing your journey and validating all that I feel at every stage.

    Hope everyone has a restfull evening.


  • Caligirl55
    Caligirl55 Member Posts: 486
    edited January 2017

    Kattis...good luck tomorrow ...woohoo! I bet you are thrilled ...thrilled to get it done and over!

    Pammac....I think I am just getting tired of the aches and pains all over, tender boob pain! I can't believe I get so achy just as I go back to work.

    JShannon....when the young fella drew all over my chest with his permanent marker I felt so low. He looked about 15 but I know he's at least in his 20's ...but a women tech would make me feel more comfortable?

    JenRich....you are right this shit sucks. My boob is red, itchy and bumpy...my nipple is getting more sore

  • RitaR551
    RitaR551 Member Posts: 42
    edited January 2017

    ElizabethAm- lol. Well, she's young, so I'll give her that.

    Like others have said, it's good to come here and hear what others are experiencing.

    JenRich- I can only aspire. I am retired and can't imagine maintaining the schedule I had (when working) AND doing rads. You go girl! Just proves women are tough 😉

  • KKsMom
    KKsMom Member Posts: 12
    edited January 2017

    I start rads today - 1 of 30. I'm all marked up. Geez, it's interesting to look in the mirror with the "connect the dots" all over my chest. I thought I was all ready to go . . .positive attitude, plans to take it easy in the evenings after work, got my Aquaphor and aloe vera, etc. Then BAM! I had a complete meltdown this morning on my drive in to work. I guess it is fear of the unknown. We all know what the docs say to expect regarding fatigue, the effects to the skin, etc., but we just don't know how it will affect us until it actually happens. I have since gathered myself, and now I'm fine. LOL ! Guess I just needed an emotional release. I'm so thankful for this group, and the great info shared here. It helps to hear of the physical reactions that everyone goes through (or doesn't go through), as well as the emotional ones. We all have our good days and bad days, and its great to know that we aren't alone on this roller coaster. So, I've got my chin back up and I'm ready to face day 1. Continued prayers for all of you, and best of luck. I look forward to all of your updates! We can do this!

  • Lorri70
    Lorri70 Member Posts: 191
    edited January 2017

    kksmom I had a meltdown the day I had the scans tattoos done as well I was in floods that night (I didn't have chemo) I'd had a long break 2nd operation mid November then week before Christmas had the scans tattoos I was lying there thinking I'm a sick person, that all passed, however last night I broke down I was sobbing I had to go to bed at 6 slept the night till 8, I mentioned it to the nurse today, I knew tiredness was a side effect but I didn't realise crying and feeling down was also. heactual treatment is grand painless I get a free bus there and back supplied by the clinic ,but I'm tired and emotional, I've done 10 of 20 so half way to finishing on a good note my skin is in great condition so far I'm sure that will change though

  • ArtyMom
    ArtyMom Member Posts: 71
    edited January 2017

    Halfway through tomorrow's treatment I will be halfway done treatment!!! It's all downhill from here!! The itchiness has really ramped up and sometimes it's all I can do not to scratch. I've taken my bra off at work the last two days so I'm crossing my arms a lot. Luckily I can stay holed up in my office for the next few weeks. Keeping some t-shirts in the car just in case. Got some aquafor and a recommendation for calendula cream. Plus Benadryl!

  • brigid_TO
    brigid_TO Member Posts: 75
    edited January 2017

    Someone in an earlier post described me as one of the "lead cars"- and now I have crossed the finish line. 21/21! 16 plus 5 boosts for a total 52.5 Gy over about a month. I had fewer days/fractions of treatment but each treatment was stronger than the ones for those whose treatment is stretched over more days.

    I can no longer call my breast any shade of pink it is definitely lighter to medium red depending on the time of day and lighting. it is about a third larger than the untreated breast although it never returned to normal size from the first core biopsy in September. Little bit itchy, very sore nipple and underarm but everything seems "intact" (as they say). My breast is throwing out an amazing amount of heat. I am tired and feel low level crappy. My stomach has been messed up for weeks. Fortunately my shoulder and arm feel pretty good- that was my worry prior to start.

    Saw the RO this week- she said I was fine and would see me one final time in three months. I have had low expectations of my interactions with the staff since my first visit-they are pleasant but not particularly engaged. It is a bit of a radiation mill here-16 machines -400 treatments a day. There was no bell to ring....

    Mango popsicles are now officially my favourite food.

    I have a few more weeks of keeping up with the lotions/potions. I have read enough posts here to know that I am not out of the woods as far as skin reactions.

    I worked right through treatment with a few 3 day weekends. I didn't mind really- work was a good distraction. I was hoping to travel to Washington for the Women's March this weekend but better to lie low and go to the local. Would hate to have a reaction far from home or push myself more than I should.

    Hang in there everyone- the end of treatment may seem a long way away but you will be there before you know it.


  • SuMarie
    SuMarie Member Posts: 37
    edited January 2017

    Helło ladies,

    Brigid TO, congratulations and thanks for the encouragement

    I did my 16th of 25 rads today. The machine was repaired & working. I was relieved since I just want to get this over. Emotionally I'm up and down. A down is definitely when I'm getting radiated, it's such a reminder that "I'm sick". My skin is definetly looking like I have a serious sunburn. It's very red with a slight blister type rash. I can't wear a bra, which is frustrating.

    Thanks to everyone for sharing here, I'm learning a lot, feel validated and understood

  • naps
    naps Member Posts: 61
    edited January 2017

    I start tomorrow.

    I suddenly feel kind of afraid. I got marked today and just felt like I was on another planet...frozen in an awkward position for an hour while they drew all over me and talked about things I had no understanding of.

    Just surreal. Plus the RO came in briefly during the middle and didn't even say anything to me which bugged me. Hello, I Am Over Here?!

    Guess it's just time to fasten my seat belt again, close my eyes, and hang on...feels like I have been reminding myself to do that for most of this year! Argh.

  • Caligirl55
    Caligirl55 Member Posts: 486
    edited January 2017

    naps....welcome! That was very rude of your RO...seriously! The marking appointment was very emotional for me ...I think the tech was about 15 ....well maybe I just felt like he was a kid with a marking pen on my old lady chest...very awkward. Just opened up that firestorm of emotions that hits me!

    brigid...yay for being done ... My 33 treatments seem to be going on forever. I am at # 21 done now. I'm feeling more fatigue now after work I just want to come home and do nothing.

    KKsMom....hope today went well for you. These emotions are tough because we are still in the middle of our cancer battle. Chemo was so emotional for me, then surgery I thought I had it all together so when radiation seemed to bring back the emotions I was so surprised. Good to know I'm not alone.

    ArtyMom & SuMarie ...the itching has not been fun ,..I am very red and itchy but I have to wear my bra working in a health office at an elementary school so I hope I can get through each day so I can get home and get comfortable....if that is possible.

  • Hope1201
    Hope1201 Member Posts: 3
    edited January 2017

    I had a lumpectomy on Dec 8th, 1cm tumor with clear margins and no lymph nodes affected. I started radiation therapy on Jan 12, 2017. I have to have radiation for 6 weeks Mon-Fri. So far, it has been a pleasant experience. The radiation equipment is brand new and they've had it since 2015. I go into the radiation room with a cotton blouse and no bra and the radiologist accommodates me into a cradle (made to my specifications) opens my blouse and then closes my house, but does not button it for the treatment. What I like is that I can keep my own blouse on (it has to be cotton). Each treatments lasts about 5-8 minutes; however it takes about 1/2 hour from the time you enter until you leave. Everyone is very pleasant. I was given a cream to apple for any burning which has not occurred. The cream they gave me was Calendula First Aid treatment for minor burns and sunburn. I was also told that I could bu Aloe Vera 100% gel. I haven't had any burns and my skin is doing great, but it's only been 5 treatments.

    I was diagnosed as stage 1- T1b, No Mo - (1cm, luminal b, ki-67 40). The oncologist recommended chemo (because of the ki-67 rate of 40), but I refused. I have to take letrozole and I don't look forward to taking it because of the horrendous side affects, but I have no choice. The radiation therapy is not too bad. I'm just lucky to be here. Good luck with your radiation. Soon all this will be a memory for both of us.

  • ElizabethAM
    ElizabethAM Member Posts: 245
    edited January 2017

    KKsMom -- I hope your sessions are going well. Emotions get to us all at times. I find myself in front of the TV bawling my eyes out for no reason at times. Then I bounce back. I feel a bit like a yoyo, but as we approach the end of the most time intensive treatments, things should get better. Keep your chin up... We are all in this together.

    Lorri70 -- Hang on tight.. The emotional roller coaster we are on will dump us off soon.

    ArtyMom -- Woo Hoo!!! It will be over before you know it.

    bridget TO -- Congratulations !!! I can't wait to join you.

    SuMarie -- I sure hope you have cream now for your skin.

    naps -- I know everything will go well. Treatments are quick and routine... You will get used to it and it will be over before you know it. Use your creams after each session, and each morning and night.

    Cali -- You are half way done. It won't be long, my dear.

    I am almost done. One today and 3 next week.


  • SuMarie
    SuMarie Member Posts: 37
    edited January 2017

    hello Ladies,

    Naps - I love your description of getting marked : I suddenly feel kind of afraid. I got marked today and just felt like I was on another planet...frozen in an awkward position for an hour while they drew all over me and talked about things I had no understanding of. It's so true! It's like being in a Twilight Zone episode.

    I saw my MD today. I have E. coli again. 2nd time this month. Good thing is the urinalysis identified the exact strain and I'm taking meds. One thing I've learned is to tell my doctor all my little aches and pains and even worries. Because there is usually a solution. I felt like crap during my 6 months of chemo and radiation has exhausted me emotionally and physically. So sometimes I think why say anything, it's just the toxins from chemo in my body. Everything in my system is messed up.

    I told my MD how I felt when I was getting radiated. How I feel 'I'm really sick and this huge scary machine confirms it. I have cancer.....oh my god!' So he asks me: "why are you getting radiation? What will happen if you don't get radiation? What is radiation doing for you?" So he tell me I should say to the tech: " aim good! " and I should think "I'm saving my life". " I fight to save my life"

    ( my MD is a very passionate person)

    Hang in there ladies, we're fighting to save our lives!

  • warrior6
    warrior6 Member Posts: 18
    edited January 2017

    Brigid, Congrats on finishing and providing such an update on your response, anyone that is ahead of me is my "pacer car" I will be 15/30 tomorrow and will have a total of 60gy. My skin is beginning to become red and itchy....I use calendula and Miaderm (I will more than likely start the Miaderm that has xylocaine in it soon) Will look into benedryl for the itchiness. I have not worked during this course as of yet, emotionally I wanted to settle into the routine before I mixed work with it. I may go back only if my boss confirms that she will be supportive and understanding of especially the fatigue, as I may not be 100%.

    Naps...yes the planning session was really a trip, found myself with tears rolling down my cheeks and unable to wipe away because you can't move. The tatoos and then the bar code card that they provided to get into the treatment room was so depersonalizing and cold. My RO is very kind, yesterday he even asked how I was doing psychologically with the treatments, I had bilateral mastectomies...mainly to reduce my risks, but also to avoid radiation. Positive margins forced me into radiation so i have never been a happy camper, but I'm now like many of you knowing it is saving my life and reducing reoccurance.

    Radiation is very regimented with the skin care the daily routine, etc...Look forward to the weekend for a break

    Take care


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