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  • dccancer
    dccancer Member Posts: 26
    edited January 2017

    I just wanted to chime in for those of you who are facing port insertion and chemo post surgery. I had all of that done first so am happy to share any information. As far as the port placement I was given general anesthesia but no pain meds after and I could have used maybe one or two so hold on to extras from your surgery if you still have them. It only hurt for a day or and they gave me ice packs which helped immensely. I was surprised at how effective the ice was. It takes a couple of weeks for your body to get used to the port. I am thin and don't have much to cushion mine but still after a while I don't even notice it anymore. I could eventually sleep on my stomach again and not feel it. It really isn't a big deal and makes the chemo so much easier. I would recommend you put the emla cream on it a full hour prior to your infusion and you won't feel a thing.

    Check with your dr but I took a high potency B complex throughout my chemo which I think helped with energy and saved my nails. I also changed to a new toothbrush at every infusion to cut down mouth bacteria and never had any mouth sores. I was given taxol weekly and Carboplatin, Taxol, Perjeta, Herceptin every three weeks for a total of six rounds of chemo. I used cold caps during the taxol and carboplatin infusions and kept my hair. It was hard and a pain and I hated the caps but it was so nice to keep my hair and not have to discuss my cancer with every stranger and acquaintance i saw. I valued the privacy it allowed though it was difficult and expensive so not for everyone. I took an ativan prior to most of my infusion appointments and that helped keep me relaxed. I was so scared at first but the nurses were so nice. I made it and so can you! It was not as bad as I thought it would be. Remember to drink tons of water and try to exercise at least a little every day. Sometimes I could only muster enough energy for a five or ten minute walk outside but it really helped my mood. There are tons more tips on the chemo threads but thought i would share.

  • pepper43
    pepper43 Member Posts: 103
    edited January 2017

    No growth in my kidney mass!!!!!! Yay!!! Surgery is on for next Wednesday!

  • RedemptiveSufferer
    RedemptiveSufferer Member Posts: 242
    edited January 2017

    Thank you dccancer for the valuable info!! I still don't know if I'll need chemo but will incorporate your suggestions if I do! Happy to hear from the majority that the port isn't as scary as it seems. :-)

    Pepper 43...Doing the happy dance with you!! That's fantastic news!! Will be praying for you next week and look forward to hearing a wonderful report afterwards! :-)

  • tlgio17
    tlgio17 Member Posts: 191
    edited January 2017

    Thanks Goincrzy8--good info to know, I am posting in the Jan Chemo already.  Next week will be interesting. 

    MyJourneys, thanks for the link, that is what I need for sure!!  Appreciate it. 

    Hope everyone had a good day,

    Traci

  • Lilo244271
    Lilo244271 Member Posts: 40
    edited January 2017

    Well it seems I am headed over to the Jan Chemo board too. I met with my MO today and will be starting chemo 1/18. I will be getting my port on on Tuesday.

    My MO said that chemo is normal protocol for BC that has spread to the lymph nodes. Mine was an 8mm tumor. The good news is that it was only in my sentenal node and 0/14 in my auxiliary nodes.

    Even with all the research and talking about the possibility of chemo I always seemed to have a disconnect. Like it wasn't really about me. Today definitely made it more real.

    Dccancer....was the cold cap covered by insurance? It sounds like you had to pay for it yourself.

    I have lots of appointments next week. Plus I am getting a PET scan. I just need to rule out any other cancer that might be hiding in my body. At first the MO wasn't going to do one. He also said he doesn't do the oncotype test because the cancer has already spread to my lymph node.
    Tomorrow I hope to get the rest of my drains out. I ended up giving them an extra day but there still seem to be quite a bit of fluid.
    I'm going to go take a Xanax and try to get some sleep. I will thinking and praying for all of us.
  • dccancer
    dccancer Member Posts: 26
    edited January 2017

    Lilo - I paid out of pocket for the cold caps. I was told my insurance will reimburse - BCBS and sent the forms in a few days ago so we will see. You will also need to store the caps in dry ice to get them cold enough unless your infusion center has the cooling machines. The ice was an additional expense. If you want to go that route let me know because there are a couple of things i could have done differently and saved a few hundred dollars. The effectiveness is also somewhat dependent on the type of chemo you get. I had tons of shedding and my hair was definitely thin but i was able to keep enough so that a stranger wouldn't really notice. My chemo ended on 11/12 and my eyebrows and eyelashes are back and I can definitely tell the head on my hair, especially the hairline around my face is filling back in.

  • RedemptiveSufferer
    RedemptiveSufferer Member Posts: 242
    edited January 2017

    Michelle117: I have one TE, so imagine that. One firm, round mound and a fleshy boob that I'm convinced is heading south more by the day because I can't wear a bras. My husband has yet to see me and I'm beginning to wonder if he ever will. It's extremely uncomfortable and affects my sleep, but I've seen "after pictures" of some of my PS's other patients and liked the results. I'm hoping it's worth it in the end. And trust me, I've been wondering about a bathing suit as well. Praying "the girls" look decent by then! :-)


    GoingCrzy8: Thanks for sharing that video. My surgeons haven't suggested any exercises. As a matter of fact, my PS doesn't want me doing much of anything but normal activity, yet not lifting anything too heavy. Seems everyone receives a regimen to follow shortly after surgery, so I'd like to do something too to maintain/increase my range of motion. I appreciate it very much!

    Lilo: After my diagnosis I still didn't feel as if I could really have cancer. That didn't fit into what I expected for my world. It wasn't until I visited our cancer center to meet my MO that it hit home. But even now, after surgery and all that goes with that, sometimes I ask myself, "Is this really happening to me?" I pray chemo passes quickly for you and all who will undergo it. I'm still waiting to hear. Blessings ~ Kim

  • MyJourneys
    MyJourneys Member Posts: 143
    edited January 2017

    Hi everyone, I had good news at my follow-up yesterday. My triple negative cancer on the right is node negative (0/2), so I won't need the more aggressive chemo now. Everything moved fast-forward from there - had chemo instruction, visits from alll the doctors on my team, etc. They want to do my chemo via IV instead of a port, and it will begin on 1/19. TC every 3 weeks for 12 weeks. Two different stages (see my signature) because I just have to make things difficult. :) More soon.

  • tlgio17
    tlgio17 Member Posts: 191
    edited January 2017

    Lilo, congrats on no Ax nodes! On this journey, every positive news we get is encouraging. Hope scans go ok. I get my port the same day so we can compare notes. I start my chemo 1/12 so hoping that goes well. Nervous!

    MyJourneys, woohoo, good news on node negative as well! Awesome! Sounds like most of us who need the chemo will all be starting near each other so we can continue to chat and support and compare notes.

    Kim, praying for good news for you as far as chemo not being needed. Also, I find myself saying the same thing. I wake up --check to see if boob magically re-appeared and I had a bad nightmare. LOL. The onco apt for me was really what made it real. As scary as it all is, just glad to have everyone on here to connect and chat with.

    Hugs to all,

    Traci

  • Lilo244271
    Lilo244271 Member Posts: 40
    edited January 2017

    dccancer...I am going to check into the cold cap. I am still undecided if I should bother. My husband said he will support me either way but doesnt mind me being bald. I used to have very red hair and he said I could certainly ROCK a headwrap! I am just not sure how I feel about it.

    Myjourneys....that is fantastic news. I have started following the Jan Chemo board and there is some great info there. Plus the ladies are super positive.

    Redemptivesuferrer...I think the fact that I have a little disconnect is actually a good thing. It seems easier to stay positive and almost feels like I am giving myself support. I hope that doesn't sound crazy. My fingers are crossed that you won't need chemo.

    I had to share the t-shirt my friend got me.

    image

    Hugs and love to all.

  • RedemptiveSufferer
    RedemptiveSufferer Member Posts: 242
    edited January 2017

    Lilo, doesn't sound crazy at all! Love the t-shirt!!

  • MyJourneys
    MyJourneys Member Posts: 143
    edited January 2017

    I got a call from a genetics counselor. My oncologist referred me due to my bilateral and mixed diagnoses. They say it's rare. I don't know if my insurance will pay for it but I hope so. Worried about my daughter and granddaughters now

  • mellee
    mellee Member Posts: 434
    edited January 2017

    Lilo, did your MO offer the option of the Oncotype or the Mammaprint test? They are biomarker tests performed on your tumor that help estimate your risk of recurrence and the benefit of chemo. They used to be used only on node-negative patients, but now they've been validated for use in breast cancer patients with 1-3 positive nodes.

    I had to ask my MO for testing (she originally wanted to do chemo because I had 2 positive nodes). But she agreed to request it and I came back at low risk of recurrence and with a potential chemo benefit of barely over 1%. She immediately changed her tune on chemo, and the decision was confirmed by a tumor board as well as my 2nd opinion consultation with Dr. Rita Mehta at UC Irvine (she's pioneered several chemo treatment protocols for breast cancer that are now standard procedure).

    Ask for one of these tests! The Oncotype test is almost always covered by insurance. My MO prefers Mammaprint so that's what we did. My insurance wouldn't cover it, but they only charge patients $500 for the test and will waive that in cases of financial hardship.

    Chemo doesn't benefit all breast cancer patients equally! And it is simply not true anymore that chemo is standard when you have 1-3 positive nodes.

    Oncotype info: http://breast-cancer.oncotypedx.com/en-US/Patient-...

    Mammaprint info: http://www.agendia.com/healthcare-professionals/br...

  • Kattis894
    Kattis894 Member Posts: 218
    edited January 2017

    Hi again ladys,

    I read somewhere on here that if you do not have a complete respons as tripple positive the prognosis looks worse for recurrences.

    So there was no Complete response for me...my tumor was 2,5 cm x 2 cm at removal, instead of the 6,5 cm x 4,5 cm so it has shrunk some but I am still concerned about this.

    I will start the radiation and have started Femara. My Ki65 went down from 35% to 6% so I guess that is good. Not sure what it means. My onc is on holiday so I still have to wait for the entire picture and explanation. If anyone here has some advice I would be so happy.

    Is it true that the prognosis looks worse and why?

    The nightmare continues....I copied and pasted this on a few boards here (out of desperation...:)

  • Lilo244271
    Lilo244271 Member Posts: 40
    edited January 2017

    melle....I asked him about an oncotype test and he said that because it was in my lymph node he doesn't get them because chemo is medical protocol. When I talked to my BS she said the same thing. I do kinda feel that I am just going with the flow. It all is happening so very fast. Part of me feels like I want to be aggressive and it is only 16 weeks and then the other part feels like I jumped the gun on the chemo thing. I got my port yesterday so I am committed now.

    myjourneys..I had genetic counseling and it was covered by my insurance. I would have paid I'd they didn't.

    Kattis94...I wish I had information for you. I am praying that you find some answers and comfort soon.

  • Keiki
    Keiki Member Posts: 51
    edited January 2017

    Michelle
    For me the expansion was the worst part. My husband was with me every minute and I kinda hated him seeing me like that but he was very supportive and I needed him. I am documenting the process on the photo forum (should be up in a few days, editing photos) so ask for access. It takes some time to get access so if you are really stressed over the outcome PM me and I will send a couple of before and afters ... and during. It's amazing how well everything comes out in the end. However, we all are individuals and our bodies heal differently. I'm not perfect, but good enough. I'm 4 weeks post exchange and this settling thing hasn't happened. We will see. Good luck. Keiki
  • pepper43
    pepper43 Member Posts: 103
    edited January 2017

    kattis- I have been told by my MO that when you are dealing with estrogen positive cancer, the odds of getting a complete pathologic response after chemo are slim to none. I know it's harder to say than do but relax and think positive.

    I returned home after my robotic radical nehrectomy yesterday (my BC diagnosis got me approved for a full body PET scsn that revealed a 6.7 cm solid mass in my right kidney/surgical removal pathology proved it was indeed another form of cancer. Chromosobe Renal Cell carcinoma- only 5 percent of kidney cancer peeps have it. Pain is awful - missing morphine from hospital.



  • Kattis894
    Kattis894 Member Posts: 218
    edited January 2017

    Oh Pepper43,

    I am so so sorry to hear about your mass in your kidney...did they find this on your scan? or did you experience pain before the scan?

    As I have not done a scan yet since my nodes were clear this summer, my worries are still there. My Onc did say they would go ahead and scan if I wanted to but they do not recommend it due to finding a lot of "things" that might be cancer and then turns out not to be, so you live with a fear factor for some time for no reason, but again they would do it if it makes me feel calmer.

    Are you up for some other treatments for this tumor since it is a different type? All my prayers to you.

  • pepper43
    pepper43 Member Posts: 103
    edited January 2017

    I had no symptoms of kidney issues/ so were it not for BC pet scan that sucker would hear kept slowly growing and likely killed md. Because it was confined to kidney, removal meant No Evidence of Disease so they'll keep an eye on it over the years just in case.

    I have been through 20 weeks of chemo for BC,bilateral mastectomy--and because of/after kidney surgery, I am seriously considering opting out of radiation and moving on to ovary removal, hormone therapy and an exchange surgery. Isthere test you can take to clue one in on efficacy of radiation



  • Lilo244271
    Lilo244271 Member Posts: 40
    edited January 2017

    I got the results from my PET scan and there is no visible cancer anywhere do now it is just chemo to take care of the microscopic stuff. I start chemo the 18th. My labs came back that I am post menopausal so I will not take tamoxifen but take an aromatose type medication instead. They have less side effects so I am happy about that.

    Pepper....I am so sorry to hear about your kidney but you gave the right attitude. At least they found it now. I was so scarred waiting for my results. At this point I am not going to do the recommended radiation after chemo. I think that the % of benefit would be quite low. I have thinking of having my ovary removed too. My maternal had Ovarian cancer.

    Kattis894....my MO wasn't going to do a PET scan but when I told him it would make me feel better he agreed. He didn't mention anything about false results.

    Keiki....my PS keeps telling me that the most important thing is to get rid of the disease. They can fix anything cosmetic and make me look good. I will admit that I will be happy when these TEs are out. They are uncomfortable.

    Hugs and prayers.

  • pepper43
    pepper43 Member Posts: 103
    edited January 2017

    Lilo- PM me please! I'd like to have a heart to heart on radiation. I'm planning on ovary removal too. I want to do anything I can to reduce estrogen - plus met this lovely lady, Gladys, an 80 year old BC survivor from years ago who was now battling stage iv ovarian cancer. Her biggest regret was not getting them removed during cancer treatment!

  • RedemptiveSufferer
    RedemptiveSufferer Member Posts: 242
    edited January 2017

    Pepper...I'm very sorry to hear that the kidney mass ended up testing positive...but now it's gone!! Also hate it that you're in so much pain. Is there anything they can give you?? Seems like w/all the pain meds there would be something that could at least take the edge off. Interesting about the 80-year-old woman's comment. Kinda makes me want to rid myself of anything I don't absolutely need.


    Lilo...Glad your PET came back all clear! I've been debating whether or not to ask for it. I at least need to broach the subject the next time I see my MO. Did you not know you were post menopausal? I'm assuming you were borderline when the lab work was conducted?

    Keiki...How long did your expansion take? That's wonderful that you're happy w/the results! I look forward to the day I have this TE out of me! Is it just me, or does it hurt to sneeze? Also, I'm still sleeping in a hospital bed at home that enables me to adjust the angles. I haven't attempted to sleep in a regular bed, but need to because I may need to travel for work soon.

  • Keiki
    Keiki Member Posts: 51
    edited January 2017

    Redemptive

    My expansion was 100cc per week starting a few weeks after BMX. I did skip one week. My nipples survived and I had plenty of skin, just stretching muscle. I was filled to 600cc. Then I waited 6 weeks for exchange.

    I always slept in my bed, with strategically placed pillows. Each weekly fill after the first two kept me in bed for 2 or 3 days, Norco at night. The last fill was worse than the exchange. I couldn't get out of bed by myself for a week. Sneezing almost killed me. After the six weeks I was accustomed to the expander stripper boobs. They were quite high. I understand my implants will settle over the next 6 months. I'm happy to have had no complications and the foobs are fine. Part of the happiness was getting rid of the TE.

    When is your exchange?

  • Keiki
    Keiki Member Posts: 51
    edited January 2017

    Lilo,

    PS is correct. Cancer free is the number one goal. Indeed, a PS can do anything given enough time and money. The expander/implant reconstruction in my opinion is the easiest, safest strategy. Nothing is without pain and risk. I wish the medical community was more compassionate regarding the pain and discomfort we experience. There are things that could help. Hang in there. The TEs aren't that bad, when you compare to chemo, rads, etc They are there, they hurt, but they are not systemic. They will be gone when they serve their purpose.

    Sorry you have to do chemo.When do you anticipate your exchange?

  • RedemptiveSufferer
    RedemptiveSufferer Member Posts: 242
    edited January 2017

    Keiki... My SX was Dec 6. My PS wanted to begin the fills 2 wks later but I had this persistent redness that would not go away w/regular antibiotics. Finally it subsided and I got my first fill nearly a month later. It was only a half fill (60cc I believe) and it actually felt a little better. The following week I believe I got 90cc...he's being cautious. Again, it felt better to get the fills as if it gave the TE some "lift" off of my chest. I'll probably only need a couple more fills then will wait the compulsory 6 wks. Exchange will occur mid to late March. Are you finally able to sleep on your side??

  • Keiki
    Keiki Member Posts: 51
    edited January 2017

    Redemptive

    I have been given the ok for side sleeping but am being cautious. I am not a back sleeper but have been doing so for 5 months so I can do a bit more. I'm still sore down deep, ribs,etc. Also, I'm still wearing surgical bra over a thin cami to protect my skin. EX was 12/15. Scar strips over incisions feel good.

    The Allergan fill kit syringes are 60cc. I think my PS was agressive with the fills, but I did well. Vitamin C, biotin and pineapple keep skin healthy. I lost a few pounds even though inactive. I focus on lots of protein for healing. Dark green veg, kale, spinach, etc every day. Think of it as boot camp for your boobs... boob camp?

    Must you do chemo?

  • RedemptiveSufferer
    RedemptiveSufferer Member Posts: 242
    edited January 2017

    Boob camp - Ha! I do smoothies that include kale (sometimes spinach) practically daily and have been consuming Vit C (along w/a host of other supplements.) The only thing I'm not doing (unlike when I had a c-section yrs ago) is putting Vit E or other healing oils on my scar. I want to so that it heals and lightens, but honestly, I can barely stand to touch my chest because of the odd feeling/numb sensation. Am I the only one who can barely stand to touch my chest?

  • Goincrzy8
    Goincrzy8 Member Posts: 387
    edited January 2017

    I have been putting a scar gel on the scar and alernating with Vit E. I want the skin to be soft and not so dry looking. Also a friend who does PT said if scar is horizitonal to massage from feet to shoulders I have been doing that but still feel some I am guessing scar tissues?

  • Kav327
    Kav327 Member Posts: 6
    edited January 2017

    Mellee - I'm so glad to read another person say their MO said no to chemo even with a node positive diagnosis. I was just told that I would not need Chemo or Radiation with 1/13 nodes positive and extra capsular extension present in the 1positive node. I was convinced that I would need at least chemo. The final decision was made after my Oncotype test came back at low risk (11%) of reoccurrence. The test also said that treatment with Tamoxifen would reduce my risk to 9% and treatment with Tamoxifen and Chemo would stay at 11% risk of reoccurrence. The numbers seem very crazy and I'm still in shock that I'm being told that I would not gain any benefit from chemo even with a positive lymph node. I'm still uncomfortable with my MO's treatment plan so I have a second opinion scheduled for Monday morning.

  • Keiki
    Keiki Member Posts: 51
    edited January 2017

    RedemptiveSufferrer

    I had a double, now implants on both. They are not the same.Your native girl is smiling! I sacrificed a healthy breast for symmetry, that's the one with the scarred nip out of place. Not nice to fool with Mother Nature? The cancer breast is almost perfect. Still, If I could go back I would do the same thing. The peace of mind and I ad to have surgery on the good side anyway.

    My biggest regret was that I did not have access to this forum before ny BMX. I love lingerie, am fantasizing about pretty bras someday... can't wait to shop.

    We have a sailboat and I wear swimwear a lot. The girls look so unnaturally good for 67 year old it will be kinda embarrassing. Yacht club friends all know about the cancer(very supportive) most don't know about the 67 years. Ha

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