Suffering and want to give up

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I'm hopeless that I will have anything to live for after this. Already have zero quality of life, hate my body, in pain, can't work. Nothing is worth this agony.

I live in California and have "right to die" here - but have to be terminal with 6 months left. I want to stop treatment and just progress until then but I know my oncologist will argue with me as I am 31 years old. At least I have no children who need me so I don't feel guilty dying.


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  • goldie63
    goldie63 Member Posts: 117
    edited October 2016

    Elise I'm so sorry you're feeling this way. I try to remind myself to live my one day at a time philosophy, one hour at a time sometimes. That's definitely not always easy. I'm up myself in the middle of the night because I can't sleep for thinking about waiting on stupid test results. I came looking on this site to check the insomnia page and see if anyone else was up. So hi, and hugs if you're a hugging-strangers-kind-of-gal

  • goldie63
    goldie63 Member Posts: 117
    edited October 2016

    I looked through some of your other posts so wanted to add that from what I know as told to my sister, her plastic surgeon preferred to do the implant surgery before radiation because radiation could impact the skin and make the reconstruction more difficult later, but it was possible either way. There was a chance that reconstruction before could end up impacting the size or shape or something of her breast so they would then have to fix that later. That did happen, my sister had reconstruction before rads and one of her breasts now needs a bit of fixing up, so she's doing that soon. The point though is that much as they think they are and we'd like them to be surgeons aren't god, that's why a 2nd opinion is a good idea sometimes too. Can you do that? And in the meantime talk to a doctor about some pain meds? Hang out with an old friend, or call a live breast cancer support group and go for coffee with one of them? Or phone a help line? I've felt pretty crummy myself in the past, not just over BC, and just a little bit of hope can get you through. We are all here for you I see that pretty clearly in other posts. Take care my friend, try to believe in any precious little moments that come where you can just be and not be in such pain.

  • alexis39
    alexis39 Member Posts: 13
    edited October 2016

    This is just the start of your journey, you have to have a positive mind if you are going to get thru this. There is always someone out there that is in worse shape than you are but fighting to live. Sorry for being so blunt but feeling sorry for yourself is not the way to go. Nobody else can walk this walk for you, only you can do it. Your hair will grow back, mine did within 6 months after chemo.

  • Lily55
    Lily55 Member Posts: 3,534
    edited October 2016

    Elise - why do you have zero quality of life already?

    Ignore people lacking in compassion and empathy...........cáncer affects everyone differently, I am still awaiting reconstruction and being given the run around so much that even my psychologist is super angry and frustrated........cancer cost me a lot emotionally and continues to do so but I do feel happy SOME of the time most days..........you sound really lonely, lack of support is way too common but cáncer is a deeply lonely process, please use this site for support as we do get it....

  • Toscaxoxo
    Toscaxoxo Member Posts: 18
    edited October 2016

    I hear a young person with so much life to live! Please consider that your brain chemistry may be wonky, and understandably so, because you have been through so much. You can talk to a social worker or join a support group. It won't always feel this bad. My 21 year old son died right before I was diagnosed, and I really wanted to leave the planet, but now I am glad to be here and try to understand the meaning of life before it's my turn to move on. Sending you hugs,

  • artistatheart
    artistatheart Member Posts: 2,176
    edited October 2016

    Boy, you are right there Lily, cancer is a deeply lonely process.....

  • bevin
    bevin Member Posts: 1,902
    edited October 2016

    Dear Elise,

    Your name is beautiful. I am so sad to read how hopeless you feel. Please see help from a psychologist, primary doctor someone. It sounds like you need support around you and these are places to start. Perhaps your mindset is such for a simple reason, you could be low on Vitamin D, B, etc.. those can impact your  mental health. Its not bad to ask for an antidepressant either. Some like Wellbutrin are mild and really do help. Or maybe you need sunshine, a walk, a friend to have lunch with. PLease reach out for help. I am hoping you update us on what you decide to do and how you are feeling.

  • mike3121
    mike3121 Member Posts: 410
    edited October 2016

    Such a sad comment. I wish I had words of encouragement for you. There are many many wonderful ladies here in all stages of treatment and perhaps one of them can lead you out of your dark place.

    My wife's BC history. My wife refuses to use the internet, well except for Amazon and Ebay.

    Progression with two spots on spine as of this October 2016. Maybe Cyber-knife, not sure. Dr on vacation so everything stops until he gets back.

    My wife, back in Dec of 2012 was diagnosed with Stage 4 ER+ PR+ HER2-breast cancer. One node and a small spot on the spine. After 3 infusions of AC she was clean except for the 6 cm tumor in her breast. The oncologist said since the cancer was responding well to estrogen blocker (aromasin) it was best to leave it be. Ops forgot to mention in the midst of all this cancer stuff she had to have removed a grapefruit sized and very painful non-cancerous ovarian cyst.

    A little over a year later, Nov 2014, the cancer morphed and went crazy. She had a radical mastectomy and breast removal. A biopsy showed it to be ER+ and the oncologist prescribed tamoxifen. 19 lymph nodes were removed and 9 of the 19 had triple negative Metaplastic keratinized squamous carcinoma. A PET scan done after the surgery showed some cancer still in her armpit, probably spill over from the nodes. She has two cancers, one ER+ PR+ HER2- and another triple negative. She went back on A-C (lifetime amount), no Taxol as she almost died from it earlier. Almost died from NeuLasta too. Also 7 weeks of radiation.

    After all that she had to have major surgery to remove a tumor from her kidney. Eighty five percent were cancerous but hers was benign.

  • tangandchris
    tangandchris Member Posts: 1,855
    edited October 2016

    Elise, I hope you are coming back to check on this thread. Please don't give up, even if you feel like giving up just wait/hold on a little longer. I think many of us have had thoughts like that, at least I know I did at times during this nightmare. Just one step in front of the other, that's all ((Hugs))

    Please tell your doctor you are feeling this way, don't be afraid to do that please!

  • Amie0215
    Amie0215 Member Posts: 37
    edited November 2016

    Treatment does stink, and yes you feel miserable, but you have to find a way to remain positive through it all. Do something that make you feel good. Watch that favorite movie, or go see something new. Try new make-up, or put on a pretty sweater. If you have a cat, or dog spend some play time with them. Animals can be really theraputic. Phone a friend or family member and have a get together. Push through and fight! Please don't ever give up because your life is worth fighting for. Big hugs to everyone fighting through this. Don't ever hesitate to reach out for help. It's okay! It really is.

  • Meow13
    Meow13 Member Posts: 4,859
    edited November 2016

    Sometimes it helps to know you are in charge. No one can force treatment on you. Think deep in your soul as to what you want and how to get there. You will find your doctor will listen, if a particular treatment is too much on you find another. Make some goals and rejoice in accomplishments. We are here for you to talk to.

  • Nestle17
    Nestle17 Member Posts: 4
    edited December 2016

    I haven't been here for a long time. My new oncologist talked me into taking Arimidex, 18 months ago I read every word about Arimidex and decided it wasn't for me but I've felt so lousy lately I thought it couldn't be worse, why not. I'm clear of Cancer but I have an 8 year old adopted son I need to live for. I need to make a decision about Arimidex, accept it and get on with it. I'm 71 with bad arthritisand I don't need this upset. It's very hard, I don't want to feel I didn't try but I can't see throwing QOL down the toilet.

  • 2ND20
    2ND20 Member Posts: 39
    edited December 2016

    Started taking Anastole (Arimidex) can't sleep, EVERY bone in my body acking. My hands especially....its is just horrible. I stopped taking them. I have to get some sleep and this pain is unbearable.


    Anyone else have the same problem? Anyone else have some sort of solution.

  • lovesgreenthings
    lovesgreenthings Member Posts: 107
    edited December 2016

    This discussion board is great, people are sharing their real feelings and pain in a nonjudgmental environment. 2nd20, I was an AI fail. I tried 3 different times but went into a deep depression each time and fast. It just was not for me. I am normally a very optimistic person and the drug just did not work for me. I can't say what the medical literature has reported on this, but quality of life is important and I do know that several RN's who were on my case told me that "it is not certain that this will help anyway." It may help and that would be great, but your body may not be able to tolerate it. If you can ask for something to help with the pain and it works, that may be a solution. I think there is a discussion board about AI's that you could look at. I personally know several people that had no issues with AI's at all, but that was not me. It was hard to say no to something that might help, but the drug changed me completely and I think that was my body saying this is not for you.

    Elise, I am sad about you wrote. I can feel your pain deeply. This is a lonely hurt we all have here. I am glad to be a PM buddy with you if you want to chat. It has helped me tremendously to rely on some close friends who will listen to me and just be there. They check in daily with a funny text or email. It means everything to be connected to the outside world. I do hope that in a year, this will be behind you and you will feel differently. You are so young to be going through this, my heart aches to see that. Some day this disease will be eradicated and no other person will need to fall victim to breast cancer. A lot of people wrote to you about enjoying the small things. That is such great advice. I just got back from an awesome yoga class (with strangers yea, no pitying looks!) and felt great afterwards for going out and doing something good for myself. Treat yourself right, do things nice for yourself, everyday something nice. Women in general tend to be the givers. We BC ladies need to take now. You have to ask for things and help though - not everyone knows that you need something so you have to tell them that you do. "Train your friends" to treat you right. And you will do the same for them when they need you.


    What a lovely group on this board, thank you ladies, it was a much needed lift today to see such a warm community supporting each other.

    Anne

  • farmerlucy
    farmerlucy Member Posts: 3,985
    edited December 2016

    I tried Femara and Arimidex, but I felt like the joint issues, yes including my hands,were just too much to deal with. I'm back on Tamoxifen. For me it is easier. Still counting the months until I'm done (15).

  • Meow13
    Meow13 Member Posts: 4,859
    edited December 2016

    Sounds good farmerlucy. Since you are both er and pr positive tamoxifen is probably just as good as AI.

  • sdmeyers88
    sdmeyers88 Member Posts: 23
    edited January 2017

    no!!! I was in your shoes 5 years ago...did not want to go on...stopped living and caring..depersonalized and checked out mentally. I started working around horses and these amazing creatures saved my life. Days would go by when I would say to myself that I wouldn't be "here" tomorrow but somehow I always was. Daily I felt nothing but I kept going to the horses and brushing and washing and taking care of them. It was like they knew my pain. I worked through this horrible situation for 5 years with a lot of fear anger tears and anguish. It is better and I still have days that I struggle but nothing compared to wanting to die like before....DO NOT give up...you are too important.... don't let this beat you....please talk.....

    Shell

  • dlb823
    dlb823 Member Posts: 9,430
    edited January 2017

    elise, it sounds like you might be suffering from severe PTSD, which can be brought on by a bc dx and tx. If you haven't already, please get some expert help in sorting out what's going on -- especially with your pain, which may be making it impossible for you to even think straight. I see you're in LA. I don't know where you're being treated, but UCLA has wonderful pain docs and psychological counselors connected to their breast cancer program. It's very important if and when you do see a psychologist to be sure it's one who deals with breast cancer day in and day out. General psychologists don't have nearly as much understanding of the effects our txs and meds have on us. If you get in touch with the Revlon Breast Center @ UCLA (it's in the main medical center complex adjacent to the UCLA campus in Westwood, just off the 405 @ Wilshire), tell them what's going on, and ask to be seen for both your pain and some psychological counseling. As top notch as they are, UCLA is also a county funded hospital, so hopefully they will take whatever insurance you have. Feel free to PM me if I can give you any additional direction or information. Hugs, and hang in there. If you can get some help for your pain, things may not look nearly as hopeless. Deanna

  • Lily55
    Lily55 Member Posts: 3,534
    edited January 2017

    Arimidex did not suit me at all, took two pills only, lasted about 15 months on letrozole until breathing and aching and joint pain was too much BUT on Exemestane (Aromasin) and taking a natural anti inflammatory at same time and I don´t feel too bad, yes some side effects but nothing like the other two...... it is the only one of the three AI´s that Works in a different way and this one suits me better tan the others......but do leave a month (or two weeks as a minimum) from stopping before trying a new one

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