Starting Chemo in Nov 2016

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  • BG46TN
    BG46TN Member Posts: 286
    edited December 2016

    Well I had to have my husband cut my hair today, when I took a shower this morning my hair was coming out in huge clumps! The pile in my garbage was depressing :-(

    So now I have short hair (whats left) and I wore my wig today for the first time.....I kept thinking people could tell (we went to a church event) but my husband and best friend said you couldn't tell at all...we'll see how it goes over with my students at school tomorrow.

    This weekend I have felt great (chemo #2 was Friday) late this afternoon I could feel the muscle/bone pain starting...it just feels like my skin is bruised all over ugh....but if this is the worst I get I'll take it! I'm just so happy I don't have the bad headaches this time around...

    I hope everyone else had a nice weekend!

    Becky


  • Pamela23
    Pamela23 Member Posts: 510
    edited December 2016

    Can anyone tell me the ingredients to the Brian Joseph eyebrow gel and how it works? I'm using Latisse and am curious if it's worth checking out. Wondering what the active ingredient in the brow gel is.

  • Nfullblume
    Nfullblume Member Posts: 171
    edited December 2016


    Becky, glad this round has been good for you. I'm starting to get the hang of how I feel. Only 1 treatment of AC left for me!! This round has been much easier on the pain and muscle aches. I try to explain to folks that all of my skin feels like I've been in an NFL game, everything is sore. Very weird, random places. Until you've experienced this, it's tough to describe.

    Pamela, here's the website. You're supposed to start using the Brian Joseph's brown gel prior to chemo. I'm on day 5 of treatment 3 (day 33) and I haven't lost any eyelashes or eyebrows that I can tell.

    https://www.brianjosephs.com/html/lash_brow_condit...

    Hope this helps.

  • Superstar3102
    Superstar3102 Member Posts: 16
    edited December 2016

    @aterry

    Last Monday my hair started to come out in the shower, by Friday afternoon I was deep into pity, mourning the loss of my HEALTH... With hair falling everywhere. I took the scissors to it, then my husband and 14 year old finished it off with the clippers. Now, I'm ok. It actually took me longer to attempt to do my eyebrows than it ever took me to do my hair.

  • Superstar3102
    Superstar3102 Member Posts: 16
    edited December 2016

    @annie16, It sound like our experiences have been similar. My first treatment was 11-16, and my next is 12-7. I too was down for almost a full week. Good luck this week!

  • Hopfull2
    Hopfull2 Member Posts: 418
    edited December 2016

    hi. I too have been using Brian Joseph's gel but today I noticed a lot of my lashes fell out. And I had a major hair shed. (Cold capping ). So feeling pretty bummed today. I hope I don't loose more lashes and hair.

  • javamama
    javamama Member Posts: 119
    edited December 2016

    Pamela- I ordered a tube of the Brian Josephs as well. I thought I'd do the latisse when chemo is over to help with growth. I was worried that the weird discoloration the can sometimes happen with latisse would while on chemo. Reading the hair thread, it seems eyebrows/lashes are come and go for several months to years after treatment. So whatever we do, we're going to have to do for a while. Ugh.

    hopfull2- the docetaxel works on slow growth cells. I didn't realize that the hair on our head and those of our eyebrows/lashes are actually on different growth cycles. From everything I've read, head hair is more impacted by AC than CT and hair on the eyes is more impacted by CT than AC. Weird, I know. But there you have it. What one chemo treatment leaves, the other treatment kills. Go figure. lol

    Today I go see my MO and get more labs drawn so that tomorrow they may infuse poison into my veins. I can't top thinking about it. I am also cold capping and it makes for an incredibly long day. No big shed so far and no big scalp tingling. But my first AC treatment was just two weeks ago. So, I'm not expecting anything on that front until next week or a little later.

    I need to get to one of the those look good classes. I feel terrible. The cold capping is making me wash my hair far less than I normally would and I look like a meth head. Not heroin chic, but meth chic. lol

    Infusion Tuesday has me up at 2am. I'd just gotten my body to stay asleep until 4am. But the stress of the upcoming infusion has me all insomniacal. lol That's a new word I just invented. Not maniacal. Insomniacal. lol Crazy with no sleep. That's me. I am one down, seven more to go. After tomorrow, I will be two down, six more to go. I can do this. To live and see my sons have children and travel with my husband, I can do this. To play with my puppy, I can do this. Yes, I got a new puppy back in April, long before I knew my life was changing. I am so glad I have her. She's so awesome.

    I bought coloring books with bad, naughty words. To color while doing chemo and cold capping. It seemed appropriate. lol

  • Dianarose
    Dianarose Member Posts: 2,407
    edited December 2016
  • Leslie2016
    Leslie2016 Member Posts: 316
    edited December 2016

    Hey Nfullblume, is online the only way you found to get the gel? It seems to be...I can't find anywhere to buy it locally here in Canada. I wonder since I'm two treatments in if it will do me any good to start now...by the time it gets here, I would probably be on treatment 3. I am losing my hair all over, except my eyebrows and lashes are sticking in there so far. I would like to save them if I can as you don't look as "sick" with them, if that makes sense. I can deal with being bald but as long as I have my eyebrows and lashes people can't tell for sure, if that makes sense. It's also that I don't mind the $50 price tag, but that's American, then add on shipping to Canada and the exchange rate...that's gonna cost me so it's too late I don't know if it's worth the expense at this point. Going to search some more to see if it's for sale up here somewhere.

  • aterry
    aterry Member Posts: 290
    edited December 2016

    Superstar3102 in your pic it looks like you are good with scarves. That will help. I'm all thumbs so I've only purchased pre-tied ones. My DD thinks i'm super lame.

  • Leslie2016
    Leslie2016 Member Posts: 316
    edited December 2016

    So, I'm going to a Christmas party this weekend. Just curious...have any of you had any alcohol since starting chemo? I haven't had any and really haven't had the urge to have any but might like to have one beer at the party. I'm pretty sure I remember someone in those first 2 weeks of whirlwind saying having one wasn't an issue as long as it wasn't daily, but I don't want to do anything stupid either that could work against my chemo. Any thoughts?

  • BG46TN
    BG46TN Member Posts: 286
    edited December 2016

    Leslie my MO told me no drinking during chemo, but I'm not sure what the reason is, I am not a big drinker anyway and have no urge to have anything anyway.

    I am home from work today sick, I woke up at 3am freezing/chills..I had a slight temp of 100.2...my paperwork from the dr said to call if its 100.4 or higher..I just woke up from a long nap and I'm going to take it again in a little while to see what it is, if I need to call my MO..

    anyone have a fever yet while doing this? ugh

    Becky

  • Leslie2016
    Leslie2016 Member Posts: 316
    edited December 2016

    Thanks BG. As I said, I really haven't felt like having one since I've started, so I may not feel like one anyway. Just thinking I might like the option.

  • Pamela23
    Pamela23 Member Posts: 510
    edited December 2016

    Superstar--we are on the same schedule. Good luck on Wednesday.

    BG46-- can you tell the difference between getting the shot in the stomach vs the arm?

    Javamama--how's the shedding with the cold cap. I just had my first big shed this morning after washing my hair--OMG was there a lot coming out. Hoping that's still normal for us cold cappers. Of course you are 5 days behind me so you probably haven't had it happen yet, right? Today is Day 19 for me.



  • BG46TN
    BG46TN Member Posts: 286
    edited December 2016

    Pamela YES! even though I feel some "pain" it mostly feels like my skin is sore and my neck...the pain is definitely less this time (on my belly)

    I will be getting it on my belly from now on for sure!

    Becky

  • Hopfull2
    Hopfull2 Member Posts: 418
    edited December 2016

    Leslie. I think it's ok to just have 1. I had a glass of wine for thanksgiving and was fine. And Friday had a couple sips of beer cuz it looked so refreshing. Think they say less than 2glasses a week.

    Today is day 26 for my post second chemo. Feeling ok. Much better than I was this weekend. I felt out of it kinda loopy. But my taste buds are a little out of wack still. Hope they go back to normal

  • aterry
    aterry Member Posts: 290
    edited December 2016

    Becky, I have not had a fever but my MO also told me to call with a relatively low grade fever. She said to call with anything above 100.1.

    Leslie, I had 1/2 glass of white wine at TG and it was fine.

  • BG46TN
    BG46TN Member Posts: 286
    edited December 2016

    aterry, thankfully my fever went away, I just laid around all day in bed, took a hot shower and relaxed (while the kids were at school)

    I feel MUCH better now! I think I need to take it easier...I did a lot this weekend since I felt "good" but I think I need to do less even when I'm feeling ok

    Becky

  • Coupon
    Coupon Member Posts: 29
    edited December 2016

    Hope everyone is doing great. I will have 2nd FEC tomorrow, I am not as stress out as 1st round, hopefully the SEs will be kept at minimal.

  • SleeplessinCO
    SleeplessinCO Member Posts: 36
    edited December 2016

    I'm on day 7 of my second AC and I did much better taking the steroids and zofran, but yesterday and today I've had a stomach ache that won't quit. I've been on a bland diet. Pepcid helped a little but it wears off and you can only take it twice in 24 hours. Has anyone felt like there's a rock in their stomach? So annoying.

  • javamama
    javamama Member Posts: 119
    edited December 2016

    Pamela- I'm not shedding... yet. I go for my 2d AC tomorrow. I'm expecting something this week. After all this PIA, I better have some hair left when this is all over. lol


  • livin-on-a-prayer
    livin-on-a-prayer Member Posts: 14
    edited December 2016

    PMevans50 - Thanks for responding to my question regarding estrogen positive pathology.

    Also thank you to everyone who contributed to the sleep question. Sorry so many of us are having trouble sleeping. It helps me to know my problems are typical with chemo. So now I am getting up and journaling since I have been out of chemo fog for a couple of days, instead of laying in bed wishing I could sleep. It helps to get the feelings of this unique time of in my life out in print.

    I getrmy second round for AC tomorrow, if my white blood count is high enough tomorrow. I haven't lost my hair yet and value so many of you sharing your journey. It is something I am really dreading and it helps to hear what is ahead so I am prepared.

    BG46TN - I am glad you are feeling better. Getting sick with a fever at this point sounds like a scary aspect.

  • Nfullblume
    Nfullblume Member Posts: 171
    edited December 2016

    Hey Leslie, my MO told me I could have a glass of wine, "2 at an absolute max." I was a pretty regular drinker prior to cancer and now I've only had about 6 glasses in 5 weeks. I don't crave it because I didn't want to turn the nausea on. I normally wait til I'm on day 7 or after of my cycle. I've had no issues with it. Beer is totally fine. I found champagne to be perfect, since it's low alcohol and you tend to drink it slower. If I drink wine, I drink 8 oz of water after each glass.

    On the eye brow gel, I bought it online and don't know about the effectiveness after you've started treatment. You might try emailing their customer service inbox to ask. It can't hurt to try.

    Becky, happy your temp is back in line. I'm a subnormal, so it'll have to be a big fever for me to get to 100.4. My temp runs around 97.1-97.5. Right after my Neulasta shot, I do run warm though, high 98s.

    Sleepless, I really try to intake a lot of yogurt to keep my stomach happy. I'm still dealing with C issues. I stopped the Zofran earlier this time, but still dealing with it. Sure will be nice to be through the tummy troubles in a few months!! I have a history of hemorrhoids even prior to cancer. Not a fun part of the aftermath now either. Ugh. My MO says I can't use meds until day 11 of this cycle because of the WBC dip. Cmon on day 11!!

  • javamama
    javamama Member Posts: 119
    edited December 2016

    living- I, too, have my second AC infusion today. Party on! And I've turned into a full blown insomniac. I've often thought about started a secret- not just private or closed- Facebook group for chatting when the no sleeps pop up because it helps to chat with others who are awake for the same reason you are... cancer. lol Anyway, if you can't sleep, pop in here and post. Many times, I think I come take a look to see what other people are up to.

    Rachel- see if your doc will let you have magnesium. I get the kind that's good for lots of stuff AND pooping. Just a little extra mag might help the yogurt and whatever else you might be using. I'm taking 500mg of a multiple magnesium pill and it's helped. Now, for the first 3 days or so, it doesn't help as much as I'd like. But the rest of the time, I am like clockwork when I first wake up.

    My MO also stated a glass of wine or two every once in a while isn't terrible. But I'm on AC which I think gets metabolized via the kidneys- it's why our pee turns pink with the C portion of the chemo. And so, tylenol and alcohol, I think are metabolized via the liver. So maybe there is a difference there. I know once I switch chemo drugs to the T portion, I'm suppose to switch from tylenol to advil. Because you are trying to use a different metabolism pathway than the chemo drugs. However, none of us unless we are really compromised should have an issue with using our kidneys or our liver even during chemo. But it helps to not tax those organs so much when they are working to rid the body of the poison we deliberately ingested. Those are my thoughts and .02 cents. But I'd really press your MO about this if it's important. I can live without a glass of wine. Now, I won't be happy that I can't for 4 or 5 months, but I can do it. But it was sure a good thing that I could toast with some prosecco on Turkey Day with my family. I plan on having a glass at Christams dinner and for brining in the NEw Year.

  • BeckyG
    BeckyG Member Posts: 10
    edited October 2017

    Javamama I am all for a private FB group for midnight (or later lol) chats! I am always going on fb when I am up at night and its pretty boring at 3am LOL

    I have a hard time following the conversations on this board...we should eventually start a fb group also...we could do both :-)


    Becky

  • SleeplessinCO
    SleeplessinCO Member Posts: 36
    edited December 2016

    nfullblume - I'll try the yogurt. Thank you. I'm thinking now it may be stress causing my stomach pain. Losing my hair has hit me hard. I'm sorry you have to deal with hemoroids onon top of all of this. And aren't you also doing your Invisalign treatments? I'm so glad I finished mine in September. I can barely wear my retainer at this point. I admire how positive you always are. You are a true warrior!

  • Sorella
    Sorella Member Posts: 107
    edited December 2016

    Having just read through all the latest. Hope you gals don't mind if I address you all without screen names as my phone makes going back, a pain. I take visterol which is a antihistamine for sleep but have been for years before this. My MO said better if I didn't, only because she was worried it may make me drag the next day but it doesn't and her assistant said it was fine. I also listen to books on tape and yoga music to help get me back from wakeups. I do have ambien which I only take when I am in a panic before sleep so it works as long as I take it rarely. My hair started shedding Thanksgiving and my scalp hurt. My husband shaved it that night. The shedding bothered me as did root pain. I ordered headscarves from a great company. Will post soon. As for nausea, I get endem (is that the right name?) in my infusion with steroids which helps with day 1. Composine and zofran worked with last cycle but I think the composine depresses me so am trying ativan and zofran this time and my MO has a prescription for steroids ready for me if I need it. We will see. A closed facebook group sounds good, I just never trust "closed" for facebook. This forum is good but surely not as easy as FB. Neulasta shot later today. Thinking of all you gals! Almost forgot, my husband has a glass of wine nightly and sometimes I do and sometimes, I don't. I have read mixed things so just doing it when I feel like it unless I think I feel side effects.

  • Nfullblume
    Nfullblume Member Posts: 171
    edited December 2016

    Becky, javamama, and Sorella, I'm up for Facebook as well. Look me up!! Rachel Lobdell. What's your last names and I'll do the same

  • BeckyG
    BeckyG Member Posts: 10
    edited October 2017

    Glad you are feeling pretty good Sorella! Yea the hair shredding was the most disturbing to me too...

    I haven't taken anything for sleep yet, but I'm thinking of asking about it at my next MO appointment...I wake up every night...

    If we do a FB group it should be "secret" not just closed...who ever starts it will add the people who want to join...no one else will even see it or be able to join etc.

    Becky

  • BeckyG
    BeckyG Member Posts: 10
    edited October 2017

    Rachel I am Becky Lee on Facebook :) I'll look you up when I can get on facebook later

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