Starting Chemo in Nov 2016

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  • Annie16
    Annie16 Member Posts: 24
    edited November 2016

    Hello all - gosh, I had a lot of catching up to do. This is an active group.

    I had my first treatment on November 15th (same as you, Aldea, TCx4) which put me out of commission for days 4-8. I woke up on day 9 feeling noticeably better and have been improving since then. This 21 day cycle does give you time to recover a bit.

    The chemo made me feel 'bleh', but I think (based on timing) that the Neulasta shot was the real kicker. I had pain in my neck, primarily. (You can imagine the jokes I suffered when I mentioned that to my children!) Oddly, the worst pain was on day 8 and that was pretty bad lower back pain. This is with Claritan. It wasn't the worst pain, but it definitely wasn't fun and they cautioned me not to overdo the ibruprofen because they don't want you masking a fever. The fatigue is real - and precipitous. I was really fortunate in terms of nausea and I sure hope that good luck continues. I received three anti-nausea meds in the IV: Aloxi, Zofran, and the Dexamethazone (steroid) which helps with nausea also. They sent me home with Compazine and Zofran. I didn't need them, but I am listening to all of you, though, about taking them right away at the first sign of trouble.

    Did anyone else have trouble with water retention in the days right after your infusion. It abated, but it was crazy for about 48 hours. Maybe I was overdoing the water...but I felt sooo good about drinking all of that water to wash those chemicals out of my system.

    My next chemo treatment is December 6th. I am glad to now have some idea what to expect. Hair started to go on Sunday. That's a bummer, but one good thing about living in upstate NY is we'll all be under hats for the next 4-5 months.

    Take care everyone...

  • fromtritotam
    fromtritotam Member Posts: 29
    edited November 2016

    Hi Everyone-
    Wow- lots of posts to get through- hope everyone is feeling well.
    Welcome to the new ladies! I hope everyone had a great thanksgiving!
    Gina- can you get Amazon deliveries in the phillipines? They sell the biotene on there and you may be able to find epi cream as well.

    Rachel- I have a small patch of hair left on the crown of my head. It looks crazy :). I've noticed my wig fits better on my bald head! I've been wearing the wig to work and scarves the rest of the time. I'm slowly getting used to the stares. I've been rubbing a little argan oil on my scalp at night- one of my friends at work who is almost finished chemo is battling horrible dry scalp and I'm trying to avoid that.

    Round 3 for me is Thursday- I will be having a chemo birthday party :). Best of luck to the Ladies who start this week. Sending positive thoughts and prayers to all!

    Kelly
  • LatinMixy
    LatinMixy Member Posts: 31
    edited November 2016

    Round three is over! Just had my third infusion today. I just feel SUPER DUPER tired, like the weight of the world is over my shoulders. This morning I received the sad news that the wife of one of my colleagues passed away. She also had BC, and was diagnosed earlier this year. I just cried and cried. What an unfair illness this is!

    This tiredness could be a compounding effect for my last three treatments or what? so bizarre to feel like this. I am tired, but cannot sleep.

    Good luck to all of you on your upcoming infusion-day.!

    Rachel - I am a bad mess. LOL! I would say I only have about 3% of my hair. Honestly, I cannot wait until it is all gone. The tingling sensation and hypersensitivity is killing me.

  • SleeplessinCO
    SleeplessinCO Member Posts: 36
    edited November 2016

    amw5 - my chemo went well today. Feeling pretty good so far. I'm glad you are too. My hair started to go in the shower this morning. Had a good cry, then counted my blessings. I just wanted my hair to make it through Thanksgiving so my son (on leave from the army) could see me looking normal. We had a great weekend with him. I decided to just go back in for the neulasta shot tomorrow. My cancer center is so close, it seemed easier to just do it that way (another thing I'm grateful for). I hope your week goes well.

  • Grannemama
    Grannemama Member Posts: 10
    edited November 2016

    Hi ladies!

    Wow this is an active thread. I had round 3 of AC today. So far so good. I have found new relief for nausea side effects: Seabands. I bought them at Target. They are acupressure wristbands that so far are really helping, I didn't feel the nausea breakthrough at all today. I'm still taking meds, to be sure. I wanted to share with everyone right away.

    Best to everyone this week!!!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2016

    Hi Whippet,

    Sorry for the delayed reply. Sweating can really be one of the SEs after a chemo treatment. They may happen at anytime during the whole chemo cycle. The sweating can be caused by a lot of factors like your age, menstrual cycle, the food you eat etc. Sweating may be a prelude of hot flashes. To find out more about hot flashes, you can check out this link...

    Hot Flashes

    The headache and heartburn you're experiencing are also usual SEs depending on the individual's reaction to the chemo drugs, anti nausea and steroids. I am also having these SEs. Really the best thing to do is consult your MO immediately and dont play doctor yourself. I dont know about you but here, I just give a text message to my MO about anything i feel and she gives the meds to take. If it requires a prescription, she sends it over via email to her secretary who then forwards them to me for presentation to the hospital or drugstore.

    The headache and constipation that I experienced during my first two treatments went away on their own a day after I completed my take-home meds(thats for three days) for nausea and the steroid.

    Hi Fromtritotam,

    Thank you for your concern about how i could get the Biotene and Epiceram. You're so sweet. I asked my MO about it but she said it is not necessary. She adviced me to get an early 3-day of Filgrastim shots (generic name for Neupogen) to stabilize my white blood cells, and i also used the baking soda/salt solution to prevent mouth sores, rashes and body itching. It worked pretty well for me. Today is Day 5 after my 2nd FEC treatment, and I am beginning to feel normal again. Thank God. I hope you're ok too, and the rest of the ladies here.

    Take care Chemowarriors, let's continue to support and pray for each other.

    Hugs,

    Gina



  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2016

    Fromtritotam,

    PS

    Good luck on your next chemo and a very HAPPY BIRTHDAY in advance. May you be filled with more blessings and receive all the love and care that you fully deserve from family and friends.

    Hugs,

    Gina


  • Nfullblume
    Nfullblume Member Posts: 171
    edited November 2016

    Latinmxy, I dealt with some fatigue on Thanksgiving day. Seems like it pops up at weird times. I'm heading in for #3 tomorrow. Work is pretty crazy right now, so hoping I can keep up my energy level. Feel better!

    Kelly, have a fantastic birthday, despite it all!! I forgot about argon oil, I may try that. I've been slathering organic coconut oil on my head!

    Sleepless, I'm glad you maintained some normalcy for your son. You don't want him worrying about you.

    Annie, the Neulasta kills my neck too. Yuck.

    Marie, let me know how you like the Neulasta on your tummy. I'm asking for that tomorrow too.

    Natalie, how are you feeling?

    Grannemama, I use those on cruises and they work great!

    Whippetiggy, do you have a fever? I run hot after chemo, but am happy for that crap to find its way out of every pore! Lol

    Night ladies!!

  • amw5
    amw5 Member Posts: 189
    edited November 2016

    SleeplessinCO - I'm so glad to hear your treatment also went well. I started losing my hair on Saturday, November 26, 2016. I'm so glad you had a good weekend with your son while he was on leave, that's awesome. The office is about 2 miles from my home, but I just opted for the neulasta patch because I knew by the time I got up and started doing this and that, time would go by super fast. I had the shot the day after my first treatment, and it went well. I hope also hope your week goes well dear.

    I felt absolutely no nausea this time after chemotherapy. I was expecting it (as I had it after the first chemotherapy), but didn't. I was quite happy about that. I drank my ice cold water during my entire chemotherapy. Since doing chemotherapy, I love iced water. Prior to all of this, I was a room temperature water drinker, but not anymore (as room temperature water seems so gross to me now) lol.

    Nfullblume - So far, I really like it. Once it goes off, I'll be sure to update you. Once they placed it on my tummy, it did some beeping and then a little prick (to discharge the catheter). The nurse said I was the first person she's seen that did NOT jump from it. It was NOT scary at all. I absolutely love the convenience. The little green light on it blinks (since it's doing nothing). It will give me a beep once it's ready to release it's content into me. Then it will have a solid green light (no more blinking). The nurse said once it was done to place it in a baggie and bring it back in on my next chemotherapy day.




  • Hope88
    Hope88 Member Posts: 55
    edited November 2016

    Hey Ladies,

    I am glad most of you are not suffering too badly on your 2nd or 3rd chemo treatments.

    Amw5, and other Neulesta takers out there, be sure to take the Claritin way before the patch goes off or you get the injection. My patch was due to go off about 5:30 pm, but I took the Claritin around 9:00 that morning. Some people even take it the day of chemo, but I didn't because I am pretty sure the gave me something like that during my premeds for chemo.

    Sisters, here's hoping and praying that all of your symptoms are nonexistent or mild.

  • LatinMixy
    LatinMixy Member Posts: 31
    edited November 2016

    Whippetiggy - I had a very bad episode of hot flashes/night sweats last night. I was literally soaking wet.

    Gmmiph - Thanks for the read. I guess I will be going through "menopause" for a while.

  • amw5
    amw5 Member Posts: 189
    edited November 2016

    Hope88 - The day after my first round of chemotherapy, I had the Neulesta injection (give to me on November 16, 2016). I didn't experience any side effect. Thank God. I was given plenty of pre-meds (to help with side effects) (on both chemotherapy days).

  • whippetiggy
    whippetiggy Member Posts: 49
    edited November 2016

    I realized late last night that I was going through perimenopause prior to chemo and was already getting hot flashes now and then. So, if you add stress and chemo to that, yeah, I think I've got my answer! Now today I get my neulasta and I'll be freezing tonight. But, as long as I can fend off the nausea, it's all good!

    The headache is gone this morning. Probably from stress yesterday. A good night's sleep got rid of it.

  • BG46TN
    BG46TN Member Posts: 286
    edited November 2016

    Last night my husband and I went out to a trivia night fundraiser for my kids school...it was a lot of fun but I ate lots of "crap food" lots of fried stuff...and definitely not enough water! I woke up at 12:30am with a horrible headache (and I have had zero symptoms since last Friday) I was up until about 3am, drinking water, took Motrin and putting an ice pack on my head...then got up at 6 for work, still had a headache ugh...and my stomach felt a bit yucky...I really don't think its related to chemo, but now I know I need to watch what I eat and definitely drink way more water then I have been.

    I'm starting my higher water intake today to prep for chemo #2 on Friday...

    Have a great day everyone!

  • Dotter95
    Dotter95 Member Posts: 14
    edited November 2016

    hi Aldea13 - this is my first posting here- I am also on TC and just had my second infusion. I don't get the Neulasta or Neupogen shots - but I take an antibiotic from day 5 for 2 weeks (Cipro). My bloods came back fine, and I didn't have any infections ( mouth sores though!). Anyway, didn't have to battle the joint pains! Are you getting 4 infusions? If so you will be half done next infusion😊

    Joan

  • SleeplessinCO
    SleeplessinCO Member Posts: 36
    edited November 2016

    BG46TN - FYI - I went in for my second chemo yesterday and asked the NP why I was still so thirsty when I was drinking so much water. She said drinking too much water could be reducing my electrolytes. She suggested I drink some pedialyte, Gatorade or juice as well. I ate way too much on Thanksgiving (including too many sweets) and felt like crap the next day. Back on a bland healthier diet. Not worth cheating when it makes you feel like that. I hope you feel better soon and good luck on Friday

  • BeckyG
    BeckyG Member Posts: 10
    edited November 2016

    Thanks sleepless! Yes I probably should incorporate something with electrolytes...I don't like gatorade much, but I'll drink some :-) LOL

  • fromtritotam
    fromtritotam Member Posts: 29
    edited November 2016

    Good Morning!


    I don't like the taste of Gatorade. I use Nuun tablets in water. They are electrolyte replacement and all natural- sweetened with stevia. The fruit punch and Berry lemonade are my favorite. You can buy them at your local running or sporting goods store or on Amazon. They are a bit more expensive than Gatorade. Hope this helps!

    Kelly
  • Leslie2016
    Leslie2016 Member Posts: 316
    edited November 2016

    Hey all. I've been having a rough go this round, more emotionally than physically I think. I'm trying to sort things out in my head and see where I'm going but I'm not getting there. I hate struggling. Physically I kept the nausea at bay but I took t3 for the bone pain, which caused constipation, which I know it does to me, but I did it anyway. Think I over did the stool softeners and laxatives to get things going again so Monday I felt like crap. Things are moving again though! I took 4 naps on Monday, yesterday and today are better. I wish I wasn't on a 3 week schedule. I understand why, but it just seems to take so long between treatments. I just want it done. Oh well. One more FEC, then the 3 D's, done! If everything stays on track last chemo will be Feb 15. Seems so far away.

  • Twinsmawmaw
    Twinsmawmaw Member Posts: 39
    edited November 2016

    Hey girls had my first treatment yesterday with the wbc patch. My tablet will not type the name of it. I feel good, took claritin yesterday and today. I had the red devil and cytoxin, along with 4 pre meds. Any advice?

  • Annie16
    Annie16 Member Posts: 24
    edited November 2016

    I'll try those Nuun tablets. I hate gatorade and never heard of those. Thanks for the suggestion. I definitely think you can get your electrolytes off with all the water.

  • Annie16
    Annie16 Member Posts: 24
    edited November 2016

    Sorry you are feeling so down, Leslie. Its hard to not feel well in so many ways - and not to be able to predict how you will feel. That's what I find hard. If I get regular old flu, I sort of know what to expect. This is all new. What do you do to soothe yourself? I found that I needed to give some time each day to doing something soothing. Just easy stuff - long hot shower (really long!), listening to music. It has been hard for me to downshift in that way, but it helped.

  • amw5
    amw5 Member Posts: 189
    edited November 2016

    I'm going to give the Nuun tablets a try also (just ordered some).

  • Nfullblume
    Nfullblume Member Posts: 171
    edited November 2016

    imagehey ladies! I'm getting #3 right now. MO said I'm good to try the Neulasta on my belly. Nurses are interested to see if it will work too. I'm staying positive, even though I just found out my Taxol injections may be 6 hour days. Uggg..

    Welcome, Joan! Good luck on your treatments.

    Leslie, sorry sweets. Sending you a huge hug!! 🤗🤗🤗. I'll be done in February too. At least you get more "normal time."

    Twinsmawmaw, just take it easy and live life as normally as you can. Deal with any side effects if they show up, try not to wait on them, it just draws the process out.

  • SleeplessinCO
    SleeplessinCO Member Posts: 36
    edited November 2016

    Kelly - I don't really like Gatorade either. Thanks for the tip about the Nunn tablets.

    Leslie - I'm so sorry you're down. Hang in there. February isn't that far off.

    Nfullblume - you look so cute in that hat. My RN said Taxol is usually a little easier, so I was glad to hear that. I listened to Robin Roberts' podcasts yesterday. They sure helped pass the time, and so inspiring.


  • Nanpop
    Nanpop Member Posts: 75
    edited November 2016

    Nfullblume you look great. Are you exercising? What's your secret? I only completed 1 AC and I'm all skin and bones. Since my surgery I lost 26 pounds.

    My tongue is still red although I have been rinsing with salt water. #2 is tomorrow. I hope I look as good.

  • Aldea13
    Aldea13 Member Posts: 5
    edited November 2016

    Annie16- We are on the exact cycle. I start my second round on Dec 6th. My Doc is playing around with my meds a bit to help with my awful SE. She's adding more days of the Dex, a day of fluid therapy, and she's adding an anti nausea called Emend iv. Apparently this anti nausea is pretty amazing and difficult for insurances to pay but she said that because of my extreme nausea they will approve it this round. My head is throbbing too and i just started to lose my hair. You seem to have the same fatigue as I did. I'm a sending you good vibes. Keep me updated if you can on your continued journey. 1 down, 3 to go.

    Dotter95- welcome! I'm happy to hear you are doing well on TC. I am on the 4 cycle treatment. I'm curious about the antibiotic instead of Neulasta injection. I might mention this to my onco. Neulasta kicked my butt. Keep me updated on your progress and many hugs to you!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2016

    Hello Whippet,

    It is good to know you're much better now. Certainly stress plays a major role in one's physical condition or state of mind. But also, the combination of your meds like the steroid, anti-nausea and the chemo drugs do produce real SEs and you will feel better once they wear off.

    As for the heartburn, I took Nexium tablet in advance for 3 days after each chemo, and i did not get heartburn. I read Nexium is for acid reflux. What i didn't know is that acid reflux, gastric reflux and heartburn are the same! Lol! Here's a link to remedies for a chemo-induced heartburn...

    Heartburn/Acid Reflux


  • Annie16
    Annie16 Member Posts: 24
    edited November 2016

    Aldea, good vibes to you as well. That's right, Emend was a part of my infusion. I just looked it up: Steroids Day 0 (day before chemo), Chemo day (in IV and orally at night) and the day after; Aloxi anti nausea in infusion, and Emend in infusion. They sent me home with Compazine and Zofran, but I didn't need to use them. I hope it works for you this time.

  • pmevans50
    pmevans50 Member Posts: 54
    edited December 2016

    nfullblume -- 6 hours a day?? You're doing AC, then taxol, correct? Did they say why 6 hours?

    For the ladies drinking Gatorade for electrolytes. Please be careful. Gatorade has been known to corrode teeth.

    3rd treatment coming up tomorrow! only 13 or so more to go.

    Hope everyone is doing well!!

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