Starting Chemo in Nov 2016

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  • Nfullblume
    Nfullblume Member Posts: 171
    edited November 2016

    Latinmxy, oh my Lord! Did they say it was caused from the treatment? Were the symptoms just fatigue and nausea

  • aterry
    aterry Member Posts: 290
    edited November 2016

    I hope your second treatment went well, Gmmiph. I had my 2nd yesterday, too. It was fine. I take a subway to Manhattan but leave 30 blocks or so to walk. I stopped in at a few shops looking for holiday gifts along the way so that was a nice distraction. My husband picked me up at the end. The staff is so positive. My MO came in just to see me even though she's on vacation & that made me feel that she's really on top of my case. The infusion unit was very busy because they had to squeeze the Thursday and Friday patients in along with Mon/Tue/Wed patients so they were doing 33 infusions rather than the typical 20. There wasn't an exam room open so my MO did the exam in a supply closet. She was even upbeat about that.

    Today, day 2 (or 15, from the beginning) I'm a little tired, a little woozy, very slight headache. Last night I had a slight burning sensation during urination but not worth calling in about.

    LatinMixy, I hope they get the pulmonary embolism issue straightened out. I know that's scary, my husband had a bunch of PEs following a surgery 3 years ago.

    We did Thanksgiving early, on Sunday. Today we're doing an alternative menu and then binge watching "Upstairs Downstairs". My son's mother-in-law loaned me the entire set. It might not hold up compared to "Downton Abbey" but I'm looking forward to it none-the-less.

    Happy Thanksgiving to everyone.



  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2016

    Hi aterry,

    I am glad your second infusion went well. You said you have to walk 30 blocks to get to your hospital? Wow, you must be in great shape. I remember when i visited my relatives and friends in California, they were all walking so fast my hubby and I could barely catch up. When they were still living here in the Philippines, they used to have the same walking pace like us. They told us that New Yorkers walk much faster! So i could just imagine how draggingly slow we might be if we're with you. LOL. I wonder what makes you people walk faster. Is it the cold weather? the muggers? or the jobs? LOL.

    Get well rested. Always hydrate. The cycle starts again, but this time, we should be wiser. Dont take anything for granted like your pee irritation. You can only be the best judge of your body. I learned my mistake from the littlest mouth sore and the tolerable itching that I thought were nothing to worry about. Prevention is better than cure. It's a good thing my meds wasnt that late for them. I suspect the blood levels play big parts in these SEs. Low whites, more infections. Low reds, anemia and shortness of breath. Btw, I got my all my blood tests today and my MO cleared me for the 2nd FEC cocktail. Wish me luck.

    Two or more people praying together might be louder and more pleasing to God. Let's do this for all of us.

    Wishing only the best for you sister,

    Gina

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2016

    Latinmixy,

    I am sending positive thoughts for you.

    I hope everything will be alright

  • Twinsmawmaw
    Twinsmawmaw Member Posts: 39
    edited November 2016
  • BG46TN
    BG46TN Member Posts: 286
    edited November 2016

    Wow latinmixy! so glad you went in! What do they do for that? Blood thinners? What made your symptoms different then normal? What is syncopes?

    Happy Thanksgiving everyone!! Enjoy your families and take it easy!

  • natster
    natster Member Posts: 21
    edited November 2016

    First thanksgiving without hair! Enjoy everyone.

  • amw5
    amw5 Member Posts: 189
    edited November 2016

    Latinmixy - Glad you are home and feeling better. Also, so very glad your husband insisted on taking you to the er. What were your symptoms? Was it due to your bc treatment?

  • javamama
    javamama Member Posts: 119
    edited November 2016

    Happy Turkey Day everyone.

    Felt like crap last night into the AM. Finally started feeling like a normal human early this afternoon.

    Gonna eat some turkey and then I'm gonna take a nap!

  • amw5
    amw5 Member Posts: 189
    edited November 2016

    Oh my. I had the worse heartburn yesterday, and I never get heartburn. Is this a side effect? What are others taking for this?

  • amw5
    amw5 Member Posts: 189
    edited November 2016

    What are folks taking Claritin for?

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2016

    Amw5,

    Claritin or Loratadine is taken for allergies especially itchiness of the body and rashes.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2016

    Amw5,

    I am not sure about what causes and cures heartburns. It depends on how your body reacts to the chemo drugs and premeds plus the food you are eating. As for me I took Nexium tablet for 3 days, for acid reflux. Better ask your MO first

  • aterry
    aterry Member Posts: 290
    edited November 2016

    Thanks Gina and I'm glad you got the clearance for the second protocol. My side effects are some what better this time probably due to all of learned from all of you on this site. My MO recommended trying baking soda mouth rinse for this cycle rather than the Biotene--though, in general, she said they recommend Biotene. They also gave me a mouth wash called LMD, which they called magic mouthwash It numbs the mouth to help with pain but I don't think it effectively reduces the sores. They said my blood scores were good thought--the mouth sores had me worried about that.

    I got an email yesterday night from the surgeon that the genetic testing came back negative. I haven't read the full report that will probably be posted to my electronic chart on Monday. (Did I alread post this? I scanned the posts and I don't think so but my thinking is a bit foggy).

    New Yorkers are just type A. It's hard to get them to slow down for anything.



  • LatinMixy
    LatinMixy Member Posts: 31
    edited November 2016

    The doctors could not pinpoint the exact cause of the blood clot. However, they explained that clots are common after surgery and are not unknown to happen during chemo. I felt very nauseous, I vomited and also (sorry for this) #2, almost simultaneously. It was right after taking a shower. Syncopes refer to episodes where you lose consciousness. I passed out like three times. I felt fine right away. My husband rushed me to the ER because my vomit was red (sorry for being so crude), I knew it was because of the Gatorade I had before, but he was not sure, and he is always very cautious. Thanks GOD we did go. I am feeling well now. I am on blood thinners. I have to inject myself twice a day. Its pretty much like the Neulasta. I dont know for how long yet, but according to the attending doctor they take month. I have an appointment with my MO on Tuesday. I am sure we will discus my situation in greater detail, and most likely, she will refer me to an hematologist. I will update you girls when I get more details.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2016

    Hi aterry,

    Yes, BCO is really a lot of help, infos and actual experiences from wonderful people all over the world.

    I will also use baking soda, salt mixture to prevent mouthsores. I hate taking unnecessary meds, if possible. I've looked for Biotene and Epiceram everywhere, drugstores, malls, hospital pharmacies. None. No magic mouthwash either.

    As for gene testing, I dont remember you posting it either. I am glad yours is negative, good news for the family. My MO says it is not done in any local hospitals here. If i want one, I need to submit blood tissue samples and they will send it abroad for testing and the wait is too long, which also makes it very expensive. Just the BRCA alone cost about quadruple to that of my single chemo session. My MO says it impractical. I have a long family history of cancer, and most probably I have one of the genes, whatever type it may be. Sad, as much as i want to get tested, ways and means prevent it. That's the way it is.

    Keep a healthy body Yankee, that's what i envy about most Americans. They're so well equipped and health conscious, sans the carcinogens in the food, of course.

    Stay strong and beautiful inside and out.

    Hugs.

    Gina





  • amw5
    amw5 Member Posts: 189
    edited November 2016

    gmmiph - Thx for the info dear.

    LatinMixy - I'm sure that was quite scary for your husband. I'm so glad you're doing better.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2016

    Amw5, you're welcome.

    Latinmixy, Where can I find a husband like yours? LOL. I ampraying for you.

  • Nfullblume
    Nfullblume Member Posts: 171
    edited November 2016

    twinsmawmaw, AC is a treatment of 2 drugs that many are on: Adriamycin/Cytoxan.

    Marie, I use Claritin for bone pain ease of the Neulasta injection. I had terrible heartburn yesterday and it's not common for me either. I used Zantac and Tums.

    Javamama, I got a great nap in today. Glad you're feeling better. Did you end up cooking or buying food?

    Natalie, I hear ya girl. Just a few shreads of hair left.

    Aterry, I get the burning a little during first 2days of each cycle too. Cytoxan is known to irritate there. I try to drink so much water that I water it down coming out.

    I was very appreciative of my brother and mom doing most of the cooking today. I only made 1 dish and was exhausted. Fatigue got me a little today. I'm excited for a nice relaxing weekend to catch up on some rest.

  • BG46TN
    BG46TN Member Posts: 286
    edited November 2016

    amw5 I have only had heartburn when pregnant up until chemo! I take a Pepcid AC.....

    The Claritin is to help with the Neulesta shots bone pain...start taking it the day before chemo and take for about 5 days after...

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2016

    Hi BG46TN,

    I read your info about Claritin. I just want to clarify if it is for bone pain too, in combination with Neulasta. My MO prescribed Claritin 10mg to me for five days when I complained about severe body itching which started around Day 10 after my first chemo up to Day 15, if I remember correctly. When I got to the nearest pharmacy, I asked specifically for Claritin 10mg but instead they gave me Loratadine which they say is the generic name for Claritin so I bought it. It was really cheap, just cents a tablet. Three consecutive days earlier, I was given Scilocyte shots (generic name is Filgrastim) which is also the equivalent of Neupogen, (no Neulasta for me) to increase my white blood cells. So after the Scilocyte shots, my body itchiness persisted so I took the Loratadine (Claritin) and instantly I felt relieved and after only three days my itch and rashes were gone. I used the remaining two tablets.just to be safe the itch wont come back. Before I took the Loratadine, i did my own little research on the internet and found out that indeed Claritin and Loratadine are the same, and it is antihistamine used for allergies such as rhinitis, colds, rashes and itchiness. So, I am a bit confused and happy at the same time when you said Claritin is also for bone pain. It's like shooting two birds at the same time with just one cheap but effective medicine. But this info i still have to confirm because i intend to use Claritin/Loratadine again. Thanks.

    Gina


  • 2blessed2bestressed
    2blessed2bestressed Member Posts: 15
    edited November 2016

    Hi everyone,

    Happy November Ladies Thanksgiving!

    I'm at the end of day 3 on round 1. I've felt fine so far and went to my cousin's for dinner. I walked there to get some exercise (also a fast walking New Yorker) and I was a little slower than usually. Kind of a bummer and knocked me out a bit. But so worth seeing my family and let them see I'm in one piece after round 1. I'm home now resting up, hoping the nuelasta pains go easy on me, going into day 4 tomorrow. Praying and taking all the preventive advice I can dig up! Fingers crossed!

    Latinmixy - thanks for sharing you're story. I tend to air on the side of 'wait it out and it will be fine' so I think I needed to hear this. I'm praying for you and hope all goes well on Tuesday!

    Aterry - I had my 1st infusion on Tuesday at MSK. I got there at 12pm and didn't get out until almost 8pm. I thought is was just typical, but you've given me hope it was due to the holiday weekend now that you have shed some light on it. Otherwise I may switch to the westchester office which is closer to me, but I love my nurse in the city.

    Gina - my sisters and I are a prayer triangle, we'll be praying for you often along with everyone here in the group. When I was scheduled for my first infusion my sister sent this to our giant family who are a good bunch of prayer warriors!


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    Nfullblume - I'm so happy to here you're getting sometime off! I miss my work so much but the past two months has been so wild I don't think I could have kept up. Let alone take on a promotion!

    To the rest of the gang - I hope everyone found some silver linings today! Prays for everyone!


    Cheers!

    Eileen

  • LatinMixy
    LatinMixy Member Posts: 31
    edited November 2016

    amn5 I had the worse heartburn after my first round. Acccording my MO, it's a SE from anti nausea meds. I was prescribed a prilosec in the morning and 2 Zantac a day. It's been a blessing.

  • amw5
    amw5 Member Posts: 189
    edited November 2016

    LatinMixy - This is good to know. I will mention it to my MO when I go in for my second chemotherapy (a/c) on Tuesday. I was able to take an over the counter item to help me with heartburn and help me feel better.

  • SleeplessinCO
    SleeplessinCO Member Posts: 36
    edited November 2016

    Latinmxy - that must have been so scary. I'm glad you have such a great husband, and I now know I won't ignore any issues like that if I have them, so thank you for sharing. I hope you feel better soon.

    amw5 - I've never had heartburn either and I got it a couple of days ago. It was horrible, but my sister had told me to buy Prilosec before my chemo just in case. So glad I did. It took about an hour to start working but helped so much.

    I'm starting to think I need to push myself to get more exercise. I can't imagine walking around my block, much less walk 30 blocks, but I'm determined to make a better effort going forward. I was walking 3 miles a day before my surgery. It's so easy to become lazy when you have an excuse.


  • Superstar3102
    Superstar3102 Member Posts: 16
    edited November 2016

    I used alum on my horribly raw tongue tonight. It helped! I read about it a while ago... Not breast cancer related, I think I was researching something to cure my salt sores from sliced tomatoes... And boom now I have chemo sores. Funny, maybe everything up to this point was preparing me for this?

    Anyhow.... Buy it in the spice/ baking section. Sprinkle it on.. Tastes yuck, but works like a charm.

  • Superstar3102
    Superstar3102 Member Posts: 16
    edited November 2016

    idk, I was wondering the same

  • Hope88
    Hope88 Member Posts: 55
    edited November 2016

    Hello my fellow warriors!

    I started chemo on Nov. 18, 2016. I read through this entire thread and decided to post my experience. Hopefully, someone may benefit from this.

    After my diagnosis, I went for an MRI and that result showed a much larger mass than originally considered. So instead of surgery first, my doctors recommended neoadjuvant chemo to shrink the mass. I will also need radiation after the surgery. The next event (more like obstacles) was getting the port. After placement, I was told I would feel slight soreness for 24 to 48 hours. Unfortunately that was not true for me. I had to research, but some people feel lots of pain for several weeks, especially if you have large breasts. So I (very large breasts) had pretty extreme pain at the site and right side of body. What saved me is wearing soft sports bras at all times, even during sleep.

    My next events were getting ready for chemo. I looked at it as getting a tuneup! I was advised to get a flu shot and my teeth cleaned. I went a step further and got a Pap smear too. Well, it turned out that I needed two extractions as well! Then my general practitioner told me to also get the pneumonia shot (recommended for anyone going through cancer treatment). As you can see, my body was put through a lot before I even got the "Red Devil".

    So, onto chemo. I was super nervous and scared about going on chemotherapy. Of course I heard lots of horror stories and have had family members who went through treatment. I was so anxious that my doctor suggested a mild anxiety pill. I went on a low dose of Activa ( or something close) and it helped immensely. The administration of chemo went easy and I had no problems initially. I was also given three anti-nausea medicines through the IV before the chemo started. My nurse told me to take the first dose of a prescribed anti-nausea pill that night. I took all the recommended doses and never got nauseous or sick. I also had the Neulesta patch put on my stomach and took Claritin first thing in the morning. I had no bone or muscle pain. I was told to take Claritin for five days after the Neulasta however I found that on day six I started getting a headache and bodyaches so I took the Claritin again. This seemed to take care of the problem.

    I have been fortunate so far with the SE's of chemo: no nausea, no vomiting, no diarrhea etc. The only bothersome symptoms are the medicine/metallic persistent taste in my mouth and extreme fatigue (although that may be a SE of the anti-nausea meds). So far, no hair loss, but when that event happens, I will be using a wig.

    Thanks to all of you who posted tips about gargling with baking soda and salt and the advice to get with the class that the American cancer society offers. My next chemo is slated for next Friday, December 2, and I am a bit nervous about the cumulative effects and enhanced side effects of chemo.

    My motto of late about cancer, treatment, upcoming surgery etc. is this: I have one life to live and thus I am in the fight of my life. Take care sisters and get the rest you need. I am an elementary school teacher and will probably not work after my second chemo treatment due to all the possible infections, colds, etc. that I could be exposed to at school. Is anyone wearing a mask most of the time? My husband is a bit freaky about me wearing one nearly all day. Well that's a fight for another day!

    Signing off for now, but "Let's Do This!!!

  • javamama
    javamama Member Posts: 119
    edited November 2016

    Happy day after Thanksgiving, y'all. So this year, instead of me cooking ALL THE THINGS, I decided to let go of control and let my husband and two college-aged boys take care of Turkey dinner. It was a leap of faith. Because I love to cook. And I love food. Good food makes my little heart sing. And if I'm in the zone, cooking is very zen mediation for me. But, but, but... this year, I have cancer. And although, I've gotten the tumor cut out, I still have cancer and cancer treatments. I can't remember how far out you have to be to be declared cancer free, until then, I have cancer. Which makes my brain hurt and my heart as well. But I have an awesome family who wanted to take care of me this year. And even though there is a small kernel of me who WANTS to be a bad ass in the kitchen, there is HUGE realistic girl in me who know- KNOWS, yo -that cancer won't let me be me this year and I have to choose to do something else. And in that choice, I can be bitchy cancer Dawn- that's my name, Dawn- or gracious cancer Dawn. And make my family feel great in the process.

    We ordered a complete ham dinner from Wegman's plus two pies- pumpkin and apple crumb. And we ordered a heritage brined turkey from our butcher, which my husband cooked off. Dinner was fantastic. Very low stress. Very high emotional reward for everyone. And I think we are going to do the same thing for Christmas dinner. Easy, low key and where everyone feels great about what they did. Plus, my two boys were home and that makes everything fabulous.

    I hope YOUR thanksgiving was wonderful and an experience for which to give thanks as well as being good eats!

  • Nfullblume
    Nfullblume Member Posts: 171
    edited November 2016

    Dawn, awesome story! I, too, love to cook. I find it extremely therapeutic! Relinquishing control was tough for me too, but my brother and his wife did an amazing job. I was so appreciative of the pass! My husband is picking up the slack on Christmas night, so I get to relax and enjoy that night too!

    Hope88, Good luck in your fight! Sounds like you're doing great! A lot of us are on the AC/T treatments, so you'll find a lot of support here.

    I've got a short work day today. More relaxing and some hikes are planned for the weekend.

    Have a great weekend all!!

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