Starting Chemo in Nov 2016

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  • pmevans50
    pmevans50 Member Posts: 54
    edited November 2016

    Hi Nanpop,

    I am also working full time through this process, at least, during the first two months of treatments every other week. Most of the nausea hit over the weekend and anti-nausea meds helped during the work week, so that went well. My treatments will be Thursday, hopefully always in the afternoon, and I can flex my work hours to make it fit. I switch to taxol once a week after the new year and will have to wait to see how that goes. I do plan on taking some time off simply because I know it's going to wear me down soon, but maybe not? I'll stay positive, but this is one instance where it is all about me because this is not a silly cold.

    A funny story - I work in a building that does not allow PDAs, cell phones, and the like, and as I walked into a work space to talk with some coworkers my Nuelasta patch started beeping..... aaaaawkward!! LOL

    Good luck to everyone who starts chemo next week.

    I hope everyone gets to have family and joy filled holidays, and remember....... We are Warriors!! :-)

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  • LovesLoons
    LovesLoons Member Posts: 68
    edited November 2016

    Hi all. I started chemo Wednesday. Got my PowerPort placed Tuesday. I thought I was going to be getting Paclitaxel but it was changed (with my consent) to a study drug, Talazoparib daily, with Irinotecan every other week.

    They started me on half dose, but I've been taking the full dose Talazoparib for 2 days now. My neck and shoulders are really sore, probably from the port placement?? I feel like a phython hugged my neck and shoulders and then shook me for hours.

    My tumor is pretty big, but today it seemed to get even bigger/harder. (It's basically my whole breast). I'm not sure if that hardening is a good thing or not.

    Hoping to find a local place to try on wigs. One I ordered didn't fit.

    Glad there is this place to visit. :). Take care ladies.

  • amw5
    amw5 Member Posts: 189
    edited November 2016

    Yes, I begin chemotherapy on Tuesday, November 15. I believe I have just about everything I may need.

  • SleeplessinCO
    SleeplessinCO Member Posts: 36
    edited November 2016

    I had my port placement this morning. I couldn't believe how easy it was. I was actually awake through the whole thing but didn't feel much pain at all. Fast forward 7 hours and yikes! The anesthesia has worn off. I feel like someone punched me in the neck. Not as bad as the mastectomy pain though so I'll live. I got my wig yesterday. Not as cute as dbear's but I think I can get used to it putting it on without crying. I'll post a pic tomorrow.

    Welcome new members and thank you to all who have posted about their chemos. It helps so much. I'm ready for my first one on Tuesday!

    Everyone have a great weekend!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2016

    To all November Chemoladies who are about to undergo chemotherapies...Good Luck!


  • LatinMixy
    LatinMixy Member Posts: 31
    edited November 2016

    Sorella, I started exactly the same treatment on November 1st. My second round is next Tuesday. So far the worse has been stomach issues. According to my MO, is a side effect from my nausea pills. Hair is falling off noticeably more than normal, burn not a the a massive scale just yet.

  • Shadowcat07
    Shadowcat07 Member Posts: 8
    edited November 2016

    I start on 11/16, still feels like I'm in denial....

  • Coupon
    Coupon Member Posts: 29
    edited November 2016

    Hi there,

    MO booked my FEC-D next Tuesday, Nov 15, 2016, Neulasta to follow. I am nerve wracking now. I don't have the opportunity to attend pre-chemo class. Would I miss out anything?

    My MO said I don't need Claritin for Neulasta nor I should stop taking my daily iron supplement & Vitamin C (I am anaemic), which is different than others. Any thoughts?

    I am not 100% mentally ready for chemo but with the help of the pre-chemo grocery list from this board, I got most of the stuff for next Tuesday. The most reluctant to face is to lose all my hair...

  • bclibrary
    bclibrary Member Posts: 12
    edited November 2016

    Hi NFull and everyone -- i just found this online support site. I was diagnosed with breast cancer in both (go figure...:) last month, planning lumpectomy surgeries and then found cancer in lymphnode --treatment changed and getting chemo first for 5 months, every two weeks (AC-T as it seems some of you are getting, too)

    I got my first treatment on Monday and Tuesday-Thursday was pretty brutal. Does anyone else end up in bed for three days after treatment? I felt pretty good on Friday, and good this Saturday morning. I suppose everyone is different, Also I live alone, my children in college and close by in another town. I am finally reaching out for help from friends and will get people to check in on me during those tough three days.

    We're going to fight this, ladies -- my cousin calls me "The Warrior"--I didn't feel like one a few days ago, but I'm back!! Shaving my head on Monday since I'm told I will lose it by the next session--don't feel like waking up each morning with another clump falling out! There are some really cute scarves, and friends have already bought some for me. My daughter is excited to do my make-up :)

    Sending love and strength, and I'm sure I'll be on often.

    BC

  • Pamela23
    Pamela23 Member Posts: 510
    edited November 2016

    gmmiph--You're posts put a smile on my face!

    LovesLoons--Good luck on the study drug. If you can;t find a local place, the American Cancer Society can steer you in the right direction. There are a couple wig boutiques in local hospitals that they can tell you about and I also have an appointment on Monday for a place that specializes in hair prosthetic. My hospital gave me a list of places to check out.

    Shadowcat07--there's a handful of us starting with you so you won;t be alone!

    Coupon--I had already gotten the tour of the chemo floor during a regular visit to my MO, which truthfully put me more at ease. The orientation I had was basically going through the side effects of each drug and asking any questions. I feel like I got more info from this forum than I did from the nurse as far as tips for easing SEs. A lot of her answers were "everybody's different, but..." I'm sure the nurses will be amazing, they know how we feel for the first time. They see it everyday and will answer any questions you have along the way.

    Welocme BClibrary!

  • Leslie2016
    Leslie2016 Member Posts: 316
    edited November 2016

    Welcome New ladies. I'm glad you found this site. The bunch of ladies here are wonderful. Let them hold you up when you need it. :)

    Bclibrary, if your side effects are hitting you that strong, please call your doctor and talk to them about it. I have 3 different prescriptions for nausea, and they worked beautifully. There is no reason for you to suffer for 3 days after to the point of being bedridden. They have ways to help you. Let them. I also know hydration is KEY. Drink, drink drink. I also was lucky enough that my doctory prescribed for a nurse to come in and give me hydration for 3 days...that litre of fluid really did help. I could feel myself perk up when it was done on my worse day.

    Coupon, I am on the same treatment you are. I didn't get to do the pre-chemo workshop until the afternoon after my first treatment, but I did it. Yes, it's worth it. Even though I had just finished the treatment, it solidified a few answers for me.Things like, don't wait until the side effect gets really bad before treating it, be proactive. Didn't go to the washroom today? Take senokot before bed THAT DAY. Don't wait until you haven't gone for 2-3 days, then you are in for a world of hurt. My mother who has gone through this said constipation is the worse part, to the point of agony...and there is no use to letting it get that far. If I woke in the night and even thought I might be nauseous, I took precautions. An extra gravol on top of my other meds wasn't going to hurt anything, and there was no reason to suffer. I know all this is scary, but forwarned is a good thing. If you have the knowledge, you can use it.

    Shadowcat, I know it feels like it's happening to someone else.It's ok. Keep moving forward and you will get through this.

    The neulasta caused me some pain, but again, I grabbed the heating pad, took some tylenol and went to bed. It was much better in the morning.

    You can do this ladies. As you said, we are warriors, and we will make it through.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2016

    Hi November Chemoladies,

    Hope you're all fine.

    Fot those about to undergo chemo like Pamela, Coupon and Shadowcat, here's a little advice for you. Try to surf and get all the information about the chemo drugs you will be using. You might as well do the same for the pre-chemo drugs like the anti nausea and steroids. Why? So that you can expect the Side Effects in advance and more or less, you would not panic and know immediatelywhat to do next. Many times, it is the Fear of the Unknown that causes us useless anxieties. Try to relax. Be sure, however, not to overreact, if you feel like you have one of the symptoms. Just let your MOs know what you feel.

    Coupon, we have the same treatment, FEC-D. My first chemo went pretty well, except for a little constipation due possibly to the anti nausea and steroid drugs. But once you've completed all your drugs (pre-chemo, chemo and take-home drugs), in about one or two days after, you will feel much better, especially after you have pooped. Mine was like the Taj Mahal of India, and it was such a relief. Eat prunes to help you. If instead of constipation, you have diarrhea, eat apples, veggies and other foods known to stop it. Drink lots of hot liquids like green tea or non-oily soup to strengthen your tummy. I am a little worried about your anemia(is it confirmed?). Chemo drugs usually lower our blood counts more. I hope the vitamins you're taking are sufficient to keep your red blood cells stable. Your Mo should know this. I stayed overnight at the hospital just to make sure I dont have any sudden drop in my blood levels or any adverse reactions to the drugs. I also took Iberet Active for haemoglobin boost and as iron, vit B and C supplement. This, for 20 days after chemo.

    Ladies, dont be afraid. We are doing these things to cure ourselves, not to have cardiac arrest from too much anxiety. Trust your doctors, they know better. The support of your loved ones is also very important. If you dont have any loved ones yet, get one from a singles bar quick! Your battelcry from now on should be KILL CANCER!!! Best of Luck and May God be with you!

    gmmiph

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  • Nanpop
    Nanpop Member Posts: 75
    edited November 2016

    Hi Everyone,

    I had my port put in this morning. I am glad that part is over. It was a quick procedure. However, It hurts worse than the bilateralmx. I hope the pain doesn't last too long.

    I was told by my MO that I would need dose dense AC t. After reading your posts it seems there maybe a choice of treatment. Is that the case with Invasive Lobular Carcinoma?

  • javamama
    javamama Member Posts: 119
    edited November 2016

    Anyone else see the dentist and have them give you a scrip for heavy dose fluoride toothpaste to save your pearly whites during chemo/rads?

    Nanpop- I asked my MO about my treatment and why I wasn't getting something else. He said that given all the information he has and the current research into treatment, the course he recommended was the gold standard to make sure distant recurrence is minimized. That trying and doing something else hasn't been proven to work and did I want to be the guinea pig on seeing if it would? He was joking, but it made his point. My scans are clean. And I WANT to kill any rogue cancer cells circulating anywhere in my body. So as much as I hate having to do it and am dreading the side effects of chemo, I'm going to pull my big girl panties right on up all the way to my chest if I have to and get 'er done. I want the treatment that works. That's been proven to work for my kind of cancer. Hope that helps.

  • LovesLoons
    LovesLoons Member Posts: 68
    edited November 2016

    Pamela23-- Thanks! I just found out there is actually a place right in Mayo ... one would think they would have something, but I couldn't find it On other searches.

  • Nanpop
    Nanpop Member Posts: 75
    edited November 2016

    I lost a lot of blood during my mastectomy that I had to get a transfusion. I am now in pain from the port. I feel so beaten up physically that I am concerned I won't be able to get through chemo. I don't eat when I am nervous. I lost 25 pounds since I was diagnosed. I am very thin. I can't seem to get a break. When I started I felt positive and ready.

    As I read your stories, I am in awe that you have such strength.


    Any ideas on how to get myself together?

    Do they adjust the chemo dose to accommodate weight loss?

    Should I delay chemo until I feel stronger?


  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2016

    Hi Nanpop,

    I am sorry to hear your problems. My only advice is to tell your MO about all your problems and have faith in him. If you do not trust him, have a second opinion. You should be dealing with somebody who you believe 100%. Faith does wonders.

    Only your "professional" MO can tell you what to do. I am sure he has or will let you undergo a series of lab tests before your chemo such as bloodworks, echogram, ct, & bonescans at the minimum to find out in exactly what condition you are in before giving you a chemo regimen. Your case, as can be seen from your sig, seems to be a common one, so your MO will not have a hard time evaluating you. Dosage adjustments, vitamin supplements or additional tests may be given to you. Have faith in your doctor. You cannot afford to have a fickle mind or dillydally on your treatment. Nike says "Just do it!".

    Eat healthy, more fruits and veggies, less sugar, meat and fats. No processed foods. You have control on this.

    Be smart, be brave and ask for God's mercy.

    Keep us posted,

    gmmiph

  • Leslie2016
    Leslie2016 Member Posts: 316
    edited November 2016

    Oh nanpop I'm sorry to hear you are having such a hard time. My "cancer team" at the cancer centre includes a social worker who I can talk to anytime I need to figure out my emotions, work on things with my family, deal with the stress of all of this. Check it out; there may be someone available for you to talk to. Also, I'm 99% sure they change the dose dependent on your weight. They weighed me the day I found out I was HER2 positive and needed chemo and met my MO. They weighed me the next day when I went back to see the RO. They weighed me when I went for my first treatment and then went and mixed the dose based on my weight that day. I have a feeling I'm going to be weighed more in the next year than I have been for the past 5 combined.

    Talk to your MO about how you are feeling. It may or may not be a good idea to delay the chemo. You really need to talk to them about all of this,and sort out what is best for you and your case.

    We are here to listen though! You will get through this!

  • pmevans50
    pmevans50 Member Posts: 54
    edited November 2016

    Hi Nanpop,

    Sorry you're not faring so well, but it is very important to eat healthy, as we all are learning. Along the same lines as what Leslie said, My MO also told me if I lost more than 5 pounds she would have to make adjustments. You've got to try to keep your weight up. Try to manage side affects as soon as you feel them coming on or even before and good luck! I'm praying for you, all of you ladies!!

  • SleeplessinCO
    SleeplessinCO Member Posts: 36
    edited November 2016

    Oh Nanpop, I feel your pain. I had the double mastectomy too and just when I felt like the pain was finally tolerable I had the port put in (yesterday) and I feel so beat up today. I cried in the parking lot after grocery shopping with my husband because I was so tired of being in so much pain. I'm doing the opposite however - I think I've gained at least 5 lbs this past month (stress eater). I do think the worst of the physical pain is over. Now it will be more emotional. I honestly get through it each day by counting my blessings, and I thank God it is me with cancer and not one of my children. Cancer sucks, but we can do this. Please see if your cancer center has someone you can talk to and hang in there. You're stronger than you know and you're not alone.

  • Coupon
    Coupon Member Posts: 29
    edited November 2016

    Hi Gmmiph, Leslie2016 & Everyone,

    Thanks for all your tips. Gmmiph, I found out I have anemia a month prior to being diagnosed with BC, so I am on iron supplement with Vitamin C since July. I also worry my red blood count during the chemo course, will ask pharmacist next Tuesday for their advice.

    Leslie 2016 & Gmmiph, how soon does your hair start losing? I am wondering if I should shave it tomorrow and put on wig from the ghetto.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2016

    Hi Coupon,

    About your blood condition, I wonder why do you ask your pharmacist? I think it would be wiser to consult your MO. He is the one evaluating you before a chemo session and he prescribes what meds and vitamins you should take. He orders a blood test for your blood counts. I got a CBC with platelet count a week after my first chemo. I just texted her the results, specifically my RBC, WBC, Neutrophils and Platelet count. That's all. Then she determines if they are acceptable and tells you. My RBC and WBC are both a little bit below normal but my MO says they are still acceptable. I do continue to take the Iberet, though, it's for 20 days. Then I do some research on how I could improve my blood counts more like eat Iron-rich natural foods like moringa leaves and dried prunes. As of now, I still feel normal, except for the constipation i mentioned before.

    As for the hair loss, I am a bit puzzled myself. My MO says I will probably start losing my hair on Day 10, and today is Day 10, and I havent lost a single strand. Funny but for years, I used to normally shed quite a few strands but now after my first chemo, not a single hair. I dont know. I guess different women, with different conditions, different cancers and different chemo regimens react differently individually speaking. Now, I am a bit worried whether my chemo drugs are working or not. LOL. Somehow I get this funny feeling that I was given a placebo. I sure hope not.

    Dont worry too much. Always see the sunny side of things. Humor yourself. Maybe that's my saving grace.

    Fond thoughts,

    gmmiph


  • Nfullblume
    Nfullblume Member Posts: 171
    edited November 2016

    Javamama, I have Invisalign braces right now and was more worried about mouth issues and sores since I have appliances in. My orthodontist immediately told me he could give me fluoride if I needed help combatting those issues. I'm on day 11 and haven't had any issues. I am doing the baking soda and salt mouth rinse regularly to keep the mucous membranes in my mouth healthy. I also told my MO about the fluoride and she said to let her know first if I had issues, because she would have something better.

    Nanpop, we all have rough patches, and we are allowed! I mean we are fighting cancer after all!! I agree with Sleepless, you are much stronger than you know. About a week ago, I got out of the shower to dry off and started realize all of my incisions that I had to be careful around. A 4", a 3", a 2", and a small one on my neck. I feel like the bionic woman. They put me on all active birth control pills to control the pain of my fibroadenomas, so skipped a few periods. Then my MO took me off all birth control pills, because I'm 98% ER receptive. Now I'm being told chemo will stop my periods potentially forever. My body is ready to give me the finger! My point being this: spend your precious emotions on the things you can control. In my opinion, the worst of this disease is the unknown. I'm much better eqipped to deal the pain and stomach issues. Maybe reward yourself with something after every big feat, give yourself some incentive. In the end, know this..we are all the same boat and you can release as much as you want here, there is no other group that could understand anymore than the November ladies!

    Coupon, it's normally about day 14-17. Mine is coming out more than usual already on day 11, but not in clumps yet.

    Shadowcat, our tumor traits are similar. What meds will you be getting?

    Bclibrary, is your appetite good on the bad days? If yes, you should be eating some clean proteins. Your body might not have the fuel to fight back. I agree with Leslie, make sure your MO knows, they may make some changes for you.

    Latinmxy, I'm right behind you on second injection. I go on Wednesday. Good luck!

  • Sorella
    Sorella Member Posts: 107
    edited November 2016

    Are you getting conflicting advice about the safety of sex during chemo? Who should we trust? Condoms first 48 hours or all through. Information needed

  • Superstar3102
    Superstar3102 Member Posts: 16
    edited November 2016

    Feeling confused. I'm not sure what one is supposed to do on the weekend before chemo starts


  • Coupon
    Coupon Member Posts: 29
    edited November 2016

    Hi Gmmiph,

    I did ask my MO about my anemia & currently taking iron supplement with Vitamin C condtion. He told me I don't need to stop these supplements for chemotherapy. He has been reiterating to live as normal as I could and don't change my lifestylle throughout this chemo treatment. However, he did mention if I meet with the pharmacist on 1st day of chemo, he/she would overthrow what he said... I had my read through this forum and seems most of the professionals suggest staying away from supplements, esp Vitamin C, I don't know who to follow.

    In preparation of Tuesday chemo, blood work has done and I didn't get call from hospital about any anomalies on my blood work. I guess Tuesday will be a "GO".

    You are right, since I found out I have anemia, I have been eating extra iron-riched food. Comparing to my Ferritin levels between July & Oct, it has been increased. I will ask for copy of blood work for comparison from now on.

    Have a great Sunday!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2016

    Hi Drawdy,

    That's anxiety for you. You dont have to do anything except relax and eat healthy. Make sure you have your chemo schedule. Know the possible side effects of your specific chemo drugs so that you will not panic and know exactly what to do about them. Show up at the hospital on actual chemo date and go home after. Unless you have serious conditions like low blood counts, congestive heart, high cholesterol or anything that will impede chemo, then there's nothing to worry about. You can cut your hair short if you want in preparation for the shedding. This way it would not be such a big impact for you to see yourself losing your long hair that may bring self pity or something like that. Another thing, before you undergo chemo, psyche yourself up that you will be on top of this no matter what. Your battlecry should be Kill Cancer!

    If you feel any side effects after the chemo, report immediately to your medical team and oncologist.

    I hope this helps.

    Good luck.

    gmmiph


  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2016

    Hi Coupon,

    It is good to know that natural iron-enriched food has increased your blood levels. It is especially good for adequate haemoglobin to counter anemia. The keyword is "adequate", meaning just enough. You and your medical team or MO, should monitor your blood levels regularly because oversupply of iron can also be harmful

    About your Vit C, if your MO says it is ok to continue, then by all means continue. His approval may possibly be based on the overall condition you have, your need for the Vit c since you are anemic, which is also complimentary to iron and Vit B. I did also read something about the contraindication of high dosages of Vit C and anti oxidants to chemo drugs because they say that Vit c and anti oxidants protect both the normal healthy cells and the cancer cells. The chemo drugs' efficacy against the cancer cells might be hampered by the Vitamin C and anti oxidants. But if your MO says it's ok, then I guess you just have to trust him. That is the reason why I put emphasis on the word "professional", meaning he has utmost diligence and care about his patient, aside from his expertise.

    If for any reason there is a complication, corrective actions can still be taken, like lowering the dosages of the drugs and vitamins, or delaying the chemo in order for your anemic condition to improve, etc.

    I hope this is useful info for you.

    Best wishes,

    gmmiph


  • BG46TN
    BG46TN Member Posts: 286
    edited November 2016

    Hi everyone, unfortunately I am joining your group...I was diagnosed in early Oct, and I should be starting chemo this week (possibly thurs) I'm triple neg...and nervous about chemo....not sure what to expect, what should I have on hand? bring with me?

    As of now my regimen is supposed to be AC every other week for 4 cycles and then taxotere every 21 days for 4 cycles...my dr says I don't need a port, just using my veins so we'll see how it goes.

    I'm hoping to keep working through treatments as much as I can...I am a teacher in a high school....

    I'm looking forward to getting and giving support through this page (is there any easier way to follow the threads?)


    (how do I add the words under my name?)

  • natster
    natster Member Posts: 21
    edited November 2016

    Treatment 2 is tomorrow! I still have my hair. I'm chicken and can't bring myself to cut it, but my husband is going to get clippers ready. I lose some in the shower but nothing abnormal. Drinking a ton of water today!!! Good luck everyone!!!

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