TRIPLE POSITIVE GROUP

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  • Kattis894
    Kattis894 Member Posts: 218
    edited October 2016

    Thank you for your replies. I am going for treatment tomorrow and will bring up the issue of the pressure on my chest and shortness of breath to my nurse. I am also having a mammogram in the morning before the taxol treatment to see if the tumor has shrunk or grown or if it still remains the same. I thought perhaps the pressure in my chest is just due to nerves but of course I will bring it up after reading your advice here. Thank you!

    Of course I am worried my body will not be able to take the planned treatment. Each week I am happy as a clam when the medication has entered my body and I am on my way home, especially with the cortison that keeps me "high" a couple of days. I am now only getting my 5th infusion of taxol of the planned 9. I am beginning to feel very fatigued on the 3rd day and like to stay in bed for a couple of days watching meaningless shows on television. I should be out walking every day but just seem to push that walk of to tomorrow.

    I have decided to join a bc group for encouragement. I live alone so I do not have kids that keeps me going nor a caring husband for support.


  • Zoziana
    Zoziana Member Posts: 114
    edited October 2016

    Kattis894:

    It is normal for the weekly Taxol chemo to accumulate and you start to get more tired and feel more effects about at week 5, as you did. Don't be too hard on yourself. It's perfectly fine to watch lots of television, and if you like meaningless shows, go for it! Maybe walking everyday is too much right now, and though it is good for you, I was also told that if you hit the weekly "average" of time you should walk, it is fine to take a day or even a few off. A support group is a great idea.

  • ElizabethAM
    ElizabethAM Member Posts: 245
    edited October 2016

    JenPem & ElaineThere --- A Port is supposed to be flushed every 4 weeks according to the manufacture. See this website. http://www.bardaccess.com/products/ports/powerport ... If yours is a different manufacturer, verify the directions on their website.



  • Cowgirl13
    Cowgirl13 Member Posts: 1,936
    edited October 2016

    Kattis, I joined a breast cancer support group. It helped me enormously as I also live alone and didn't have a husband. I ended up going about 2 years and really liked many in the group. I hope you find a group that you like. Please tell your onc about the tightness in your chest.

    Good luck.

    Liz


  • Kattis894
    Kattis894 Member Posts: 218
    edited October 2016

    Thank you again for your replies. It is so very helpful.

    I have a port and they have flushed it out twice already before treatment to be able to get it going. Nothing major with that. So if you are keeping it but not using it makes sense that it needs to be flushed out regularly. The reason I have a port is that they did not managed to put a so called "pick line" in my arm due to small veins, a pick line needs to be flushed every week. I am happy with my port, it has a lot of advantages but hear it sometimes can get infected in rare cases so that is something to watch out for.

    My nurse also said my shortness of breath is normal and might become worse as we go along. If I have shortness of breath while laying down and resting I should let them know asap. The mammogram and ultrasound today of my tumor shows no shrinkage but they will analyse it and let me know more in detail in a few days. I understand it might show up very late in treatment so patience, patience and taking an anxiety pill for a couple of days.

    I have a friend suffering from lung cancer whom is so scared she refused treatment at first. I have managed to help her out of the fear and she is going to the doctors tomorrow. She lives in Las Vegas far from me. I am so happy I can support her and feel this is very awarding in the midst of all of this. Love is what it is all about.

  • BeachBabyK
    BeachBabyK Member Posts: 156
    edited October 2016

    Good Afternoon Ladies (and the few gents)! You are all amazing and I am so impressed with all of the information & research as well as the love and support you provide to all of the posters on a daily basis. I am jumping in and joining here (I have been part of the Sept 2016 chemo group), but as I am also Triple Positive I have been reading through all of the older posts and have learned so much. I am having round #4 of TCHP on Friday and happily counting the days until I finish out with the "hard" chemo (I actually call it "ugly" chemo). I have been having great results with my treatment so far and my MO has not been able to find the tumor since my 2nd round (I haven't had an MRI or anything yet - they are waiting until treatment is over). Still optimistic and checking off the miles in my marathon!


  • ElaineTherese
    ElaineTherese Member Posts: 3,328
    edited October 2016

    BeachBabyK!

    Welcome! Congrats on making it through three infusions! Soon, you'll be more than half-way done. Yes, it is a marathon. I just saw my OB/GYN today -- he can't even feel my ovaries because after all the Zoladex/Aromasin I've taken, they've shrunk.

  • Kattis894
    Kattis894 Member Posts: 218
    edited October 2016

    Elaine Therese,

    That sounds positiv. I am thinking maybe I should discuss removing my ovaries completely, I am not having kids, too old, but if you plan to have them this might be negative I suppose. I hope some seniors with more experience can advice.

    Beachbaby, so happy to hear about your progress..amazing respons..there is hope!

  • Tresjoli2
    Tresjoli2 Member Posts: 868
    edited November 2016

    Kattis, my OB/GYN insists I keep my ovaries. he won't even discuss having them removed. says they provide too many other benefits.

    I still don't have my MRI results. I even called MOs office this afternoon. no answer. not posted on the portal. I just want my results. I'm sure no news is good news but come on people! Waiting is torture...

  • Tunegrrl
    Tunegrrl Member Posts: 196
    edited November 2016

    Waiting IS torture, and fear is the worst side-effect of cancer treatment. I hope you get good news soon.

  • Kattis894
    Kattis894 Member Posts: 218
    edited November 2016

    Tresjoli,

    Totally relate. The "waiting game" is pure agony. I take anxiety pills to get threw it.

    I hope you get good results...keeping fingers and toes crossed...

  • ElaineTherese
    ElaineTherese Member Posts: 3,328
    edited November 2016

    Ugh, Tresjoli! Hope you get some answers today.

    Kattis,

    I tested negative for the BRCA1 and BRCA2 genetic mutations, so ovary removal isn't considered necessary in my case. My old OB/GYN didn't like to remove ovaries that didn't have cysts or other problems. He said that overall, women who keep their ovaries tend to live longer. My new OB/GYN (old one retired) says it's up to me. With three kids and a full-time job, I am not eager for more surgery. So, I just get my monthly Zoladex (ovarian suppressor), and leave it at that.

  • Tresjoli2
    Tresjoli2 Member Posts: 868
    edited November 2016

    I got the all clear!! woo hoo!

  • ElaineTherese
    ElaineTherese Member Posts: 3,328
    edited November 2016

    Awesome, Trejoli! Congrats!

  • Bird-of-light
    Bird-of-light Member Posts: 167
    edited November 2016

    Yay! Trejoli! Cheers!!

  • Tunegrrl
    Tunegrrl Member Posts: 196
    edited November 2016

    Fantastic! I imagine you are swooning with relief. Enjoy :)

  • Leslie2016
    Leslie2016 Member Posts: 316
    edited November 2016

    Congrats Trejoli!!! Fantastic!!!

    My appt is in 2 hours, nerves are starting.

  • ElaineTherese
    ElaineTherese Member Posts: 3,328
    edited November 2016

    Good luck, Leslie! Let us know how it goes for you!

  • fightergirl711
    fightergirl711 Member Posts: 300
    edited November 2016

    That's great Tres!

    Seriously this conversation about keeping vs. not keeping ovaries is really interesting, because I have spoken to my midwives (super conservative), a very good friend who heads the OB GYN division at a local teaching hospital, my MO AND the gynecological surgical oncologist at Dana-Farber and they all said go right ahead and remove those ovaries if I want to. They are so suppressed at this point (or should be anyway) that it doesn't matter.

    I'm interested in hearing the benefits of keeping them vs. not keeping them?


  • Tresjoli2
    Tresjoli2 Member Posts: 868
    edited November 2016

    fingers crossed Leslie! I will ask my OB/GYN about the why when I see him on November 18th. he just shut me down when I tried to bring it up and I let it go. but he was emphatic. let me see what he says and I'll come back to post...

  • Leslie2016
    Leslie2016 Member Posts: 316
    edited November 2016

    Thanks ladies. It was ok. Still have the catheter in my wrist for them to come hydrate me for the next few days, so that's a pain, but otherwise, I'm pretty good so far. Asked a bunch of questions during it, understood the answers, stuck around and did the pre-chemo workshop. Didn't really learn anything new from it, but it did clarify a few things so I guess it was worth it even if it did make for a long day. Going to stay up to take my other med, then going to to hit the hay and hope that tomorrow I feel just as good!

    Need to go back to the hospital for my neulasta shot, and hope that the nurse shows up for the hydration at a reasonable time so I can get some stuff done while I'm feeling ok. Other than that, the next few days are about relaxing, hopefully wig shopping, hydration and waiting for side effects!

    Oh...my appt was booked for 3 hours, but it only took about 2!! Will be thrilled if that continues.

  • ang7894
    ang7894 Member Posts: 540
    edited November 2016

    YAY Congrats Tres !!!

  • momallthetime
    momallthetime Member Posts: 1,575
    edited November 2016

    Trying to catch up, so much has been going on, but I wanted to read up how everyone was doing.

    Do you know, what's with the 2 weeks vs 3 weeks Herceptin infusion?Onco just changed the protocol to every 2 weeks.

    And7894 my 2 cents for you, it's a good idea if it's only once a year, you should still have a relationship with Onco. If any questions arise, you are still a patient, and you won't be a total stranger. This is my take on any kind of chronic illness.

    Rozem , fightergrl My daughter was in her late 20's when the mets showed up, she then was told to have a total HX, oophorectomy. She did it laparoscopically, it went very well. Of course, I wonder if it would have been beneficial to do it before the mets, she was on Lupron, but we will never know.

    DeniseG how did you ever manage? BRCA is at play here? How is everyone doing now?

    Ashla my daughter is on Xgeva. Every 4 weeks, some people do it every 3 mos. There are cons and pros from what I understand, most ladies with bone mets will tell you they take some form of this. Yes, it's a good idea to take care of your dental work prior to starting this program.

    Tresjoli I think pity parties are great. It's very tough to go through such life upheaval. Just remember to recharge again. Fantastic news.

    Fell well everyone.

  • rozem
    rozem Member Posts: 1,375
    edited November 2016

    just catching up

    Tres...happy happy happy for you!

    fightergirl - I'm going to PM if you if that's ok, very interested to see what the DF folks said as this was going to be my second opnion

    momallthetime - if your daughter was on Lupron it does the exact same job as removal so don't have second thoughts on that. Removal is permanent and they most likely want her to try the different AI's to treat her mets - praying for NED for your daughter

  • amylsp
    amylsp Member Posts: 188
    edited November 2016

    @fitergirl - the younger you are and the the farther away you are from natural menopause, the greater the potential for negative long term effects from having the ovaries removed (bone health, cardiovascular and neurological health, etc). Even post menopause, the ovaries continue to produce androgens/testosterone. The adrenals do as well, but once you have your ovaries removed the adrenals don't pick up the slack, so your body will have lost ~40 to 50% of it's supply of post menopausal androgens. All of these things have the potential for negative effects on our body, so you really have to weigh the pros and cons before removing any organ from the body. I just had my ovaries removed this past April and don't regret it. But I was 54, perimenopausal for a number of years, and hadn't had a period for 18 months due to the chemo. So I felt pretty confident in my case, that the pros probably outweighed any cons.

  • fightergirl711
    fightergirl711 Member Posts: 300
    edited November 2016

    Thanks Amy, I'm 45, and I'm on Lupron + Letrozole now, and likely will be for 5 years at least (unless some other medical solution comes along.) So, considering how long I'll be on ovarian suppression with Lupron, and androgens/testosterone production prohibited anyway, I feel like eliminating a drug from the maintenance regimen is the lesser of two evils. That has been my way of thinking, in any case.

    I've been menopausal since I started chemo last January.

    I have been assigned a new MO who I meet with next week, so I'll get yet another opinion. It's all been pretty much if I feel like dealing with the surgery, then go for it, otherwise it's six of one, half dozen of he other.

    My first MO was amazing, she's moving to Seattle to be with her family. I'll miss her.


  • Tresjoli2
    Tresjoli2 Member Posts: 868
    edited November 2016

    ladies, pardon the personal question, but I was wondering if any of you are taking antidepressants? if so, which one? I had heard that some of them interfere with tamoxifen? I have had depression in the past, and the sneaky devil is worming it's way back in, and I'm thinking about seeing my doctor, but want to make sure we pick the right medicine that won't interfere with the tamoxifan? thx...

  • ElaineTherese
    ElaineTherese Member Posts: 3,328
    edited November 2016

    Hi Tresjoli!

    I'm on Celexa, chosen by my MO because it doesn't interfere with Aromasin. I started the Celexa because Aromasin was making me seriously moody. I've always had mood problems with hormonal changes, during pregnancy and right before my period. So, I wasn't surprised that Aromasin had that effect on me. I figure if I'm going to be on Aromasin for 10 years, they may as well be 10 happy years.

    I'd ask your MO about what anti-depressants don't interfere/interact with Tamoxifen. I'm sure he/she will have some suggestions. Hope you feel more yourself soon!

  • jpr143
    jpr143 Member Posts: 26
    edited November 2016

    Wondering if someone can tell me how docs decide who gets the Oncotype test. I was never offered it but I was highly ER+, PR+ and Her2+. Is that why? Thanks!


  • ElaineTherese
    ElaineTherese Member Posts: 3,328
    edited November 2016

    jpr143,

    Oncotype Tests are only offered to women who are ER+, HER2-. If you are HER2+, and your lump is at least 1 cm, the standard treatment is chemo + Herceptin.

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