Starting Chemo in Nov 2016
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Hi everyone! I'm Pauline and this is my first post.
I received my IDC DX on 10/6/16. I qualified for neoadjuvant chemo which I started on 11/2/16. I'm getting TCH + Perjeta, every 3 weeks for 6 cycles. Then after one month, I'll have surgery. I'll continue on Herceptin for a full year. I'm scheduled to have my port installed on 11/8/16.
It took almost 7 hours for my first treatment! I was told it would take "a little longer", but I didn't expect twice as long. And everything went smoothly too โ I had no negative reactions to any of the drugs. They started each medication/drug off slowly, then after 15 minutes they sped it up. I received double doses of Herceptin and Perjeta so that added to the time. I can't imagine how long it would have taken if I had negative reactions. Yesterday I went in for my Neulasta shot โ I took Claritin beforehand.
So far, I'm managing fine. I haven't had any nausea (yet), but I am occasionally taking anti-nausea meds (Compazine) as a preventative. I took a lorazepam before bed on the night of my chemo (to help unwind me), but didn't take anything last night. So far, no constipation or diarrhea.
I'm a little tired, but I'm still able to take my dogs on our daily one mile walks. As required, I took dexamethasone the day before and the day after chemo (they gave me IV dexamethasone before the meds), so I was told that I may be start to get a little ache starting two days after chemo. I did get a little flush (from the dexamethasone?) but that's fading.
I'm eating my normal meals, but I'm afraid to eat out in case the diarrhea or nausea kicks in.
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hi. So I got my start date. Nov 10. I'm terrified. And I'm not doing a port. Dr. Said I should be ok with 6rounds t/c 3weeks apart. Any tips on how to prepare. What I should take to the infusion center. I have 2littke ones at home youngest 2yrs old so I'm hoping not to b so sick. Any of you taking anxiety meds or sleeping pills for this. ? And is anyoneusing cold caps. Thanks.
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Hello everyone,
This thread has gotten to be very active. I've been offline for just a day and there's already a long line of posts here. I dont know where to start.
Hi to sorella, nfullblume, leslie, pmevans, javamama, amw, fromtritotam, shadowcat, and all new posters here, all November Chemoladies.
I will try to catch up on all the wonderful posts here as much as i can.
So, two days after my first chemo (initially FEC), i feel great. No side effects yet, still have my taste buds and appetite, although last nite, i feel like my stomach is a bit full. I have taken all my post-chemo medicines, all oral, like placil for nausea, dexamethasone for aches, and iberet-active for iron/vit c supplement. i missed one med though, nexium which is for controlling stomach acid to avoid reflux. it should be taken before breakfast, and i already ate mine before i reviewed the prescription.
All went well during my actual chemo, which took about five hours, inclusive of preparations and pauses between each drugs. they gave me premeds aloxi for nausea and dexamethasone for pain, both thru iv. My MO said it is better for me to stay overnight at the hospital for monitoring against possible allergic reactions (none was found) and for hydration with saline solution (which started from the actual chemo 11am to 3am the following day). I left the hospital around 7:30am.
I think i saw a post here (or was it in another thread?) asking whether or not to continue taking vitamins and supplements during chemo. My advice is to ask your onco doctor about it. Tell them everything you are taking before and after chemo, and wait for their reaction. My MO told me to stop taking my supplements but she added iberet-active for iron/vit c supplementation, (i think it has vit B12 which is important) 20 days after chemo. If my stomach cant accept it, as i have previous problem with iberet, then find natural foods that contain the needed vitamins like in this case, i can change iberet with a cup of moringa leaf veggie which is also rich in iron. i am also planning to continue taking raw turmeric everday thru meals and smoothies. i've been taking it even before surgery and chemo, and i find it helpful against my rheumatic knees. The main thing is to EAT HEALTHY, more fruits and veggies, less meat and sugar.
Ok, this will be all for me today ladies and gents. Congratulations to all succesful chemo firstimers and for those about to take it, Do Not Fear, worrying is not worth it.
Happy Thoughts,
gmmiph (Gina)
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Thx for the welcome ladies.
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hi amw5.
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Thanks, ladies, on the tips for the wig. I was hoping to order online, but I will just go into a local shop to find one first. Ugh. I am so not looking forward to losing my hair.
My cancer group is listed on the Rapunzel site as having the cold cap refrigerators. Maybe I'll ask the chemo lady about it next week.
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hi Stef! I am healing pretty well. A little sore but manageable.
port goes in the 14th and my first round is the 17th.
Still trying to figure out what to tell my 5 yo! Does anyone have young children and can help?
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Steph I have a 6 year old and I googled how to talk to a child about cancer. I found a few helpful guides that suggested being honest and upfront. I told her mommy has cancer. There are spots on her breast that should not be there. The doctors are giving me medicine to make them go away, but it's a very strong medicine that could make me tired and my hair fall out. She didn't seem to care when I told her, but questions come out once in a while. I also made sure to tell her teacher, just to keep an eye out for any stress. I'm just kind of taking things as we go along now
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Hopfull2 I got a script for anxiety that my MO said would help with sleep. I don't feel I need it for anxiety but It does help with sleep. I say ask for it if you think it will help you. I have not started my chemo yet as it is set for 11/16, so I don't have any advice yet on that.
Welcome to all ladies. It is so helpful to hear others stories. To know you are not alone.
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For those of you trying to decide how to tell people... just have your husband tell one or two people who talk to everyone in the family. I also posted a Facebook post because so many of my far-flung family members are far away and casual friends also get the info. With young children, google is great or get a book to talk about it with them. My kids are older- both in college and majoring in sciences- so once I told them, they did their own research and ask me how I'm feeling most of the time. Because in this day and age, cancer ISN'T a death sentence. So while my kids are apprehensive, it's manageable for them.
Crazy thing? People you expect to step up, don't. But that's not a problem for me. Everyone deals with bad crap in a different way. It's the people you didn't expect to step up that takes you by surprise. And it really makes my heart happy. Anyway, once you get over being hurt by those who fall back, you get inspired by those who walk forward. But don't be mad at people who don't know how to handle the C word. They might actually have their own shit they are going through and might not have the ability to support you, too. Not everyone lets it all hang out and you might not know they're having problems at their job, at home, with their kids, etc. Also, some people think that if bad things happen to you, it could happen to them. And they don't want to face that possibility on the daily. Or they could just be assholes. But you don't know. So, cut people some slack. They might be going to counseling before they divorce and haven't told anyone, not even you and they just can't help you because they can barely help themselves. So, take heart.
Cancer sucks. But we will kick cancer's ass and make cancer our bitch.
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Those in their first few days, how are doing? Kelly, Leslie, Momandwife, Stef? Neulasta pain kicked in for me last night, pretty bad headache, shoulders, spine, jaw. I started on the Zofran early this morning and will stay on that every 8 hours. So far, no nausea or belly troubles. Diet and mouth are still good too.
Thinking about you guys this morning
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Morning Nfullblume. I'm surprisingly ok. No prescriptions to take today, so we will see how I handle a day without. Nurse still coming to hydrate me; last day for that. It does seem to help. I've had no major nausea or pain yet, but I'm trying to be proactive. Stomach is a little "off" this morning, so I just ate something and am sipping my water. I took two gravol at one point yesterday and took two tylenol earlier yesterday. I'm just not going to wait until I am REALLY off, I'm going to take things if I think I might need them and stay ahead.
I did take senokot before bed last night as I didn't go yesterday, went this morning, so I'm calling that a victory. I do NOT want days of constipation pain.
My hair seems thinner, but I haven't actually noticed any falling out, so I'm not sure when it's happening. It's ok, at least I'm not having to hold it this way. I have my wig and my wraps. Now just to see if I make it until monday to cut it off.
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Today is the first day I'm off of Zofran and Dexamethasone. I STILL haven't had much of a real bowel movement, and that's probably been my biggest complaint. Neulasta didn't cause any problems for me. I've slept pretty good, but have night sweats. I had my period when I started AC, so that sucked too. My energy feels better too. Hanging in there!!! Thinking of all and thanks for this thread.
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So happy to hear Leslie and Natster! Still dealing with the Neulasta headaches this morning too. Not too bad if I get in the recliner though. At least I have College Gameday to keep me occupied! ๐ I've noticed a lot more hairs coming out this morning too. Odd since it's only day 4. I'm doing the baking soda/salt mouth washes a few times per day, and been eating normally, so fingers crossed there. I love to cook and I'm a huge foodie, I sure hope I don't have any aversions.
Hope you all have a nice relaxing day
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Natster, think about taking a laxative or stool softener now! I know Senokot was marked as ok on my paperwork. From talking to my mom and others that have been through this in the past, letting yourself get to the point of absolute pain from not going for a few days and then needing a few more days on meds to work it out is the worse part of all of this. Painful and uncomfortable. I hope today is a "go" day for you.
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Hi ladies! Glad we are all hanging in there. I have the neulasta headache and am still nauseous. I'm going to take a compazine as soon as I get my daughter ready for her activities.
Rachel- hope your hair hangs in for a few more days!
Have a good day,
Kelly -
Leslie2016 Thanks! I've taken Miralax the last 3 days and Senikot. Fingers crossed!!! Nfullblume I think the baking soda/salt rinses are really helpful. They help keep a weird sweet taste out of my mouth. Going for a walk & enjoying this great day!
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Thanks, Kelly. I think it may be shedding a bit extra, because of how much I was rubbing on my head because of the headache. Hopefully your nausea calms down.
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I think hearing that my Nov chemo pals are doing pretty well is the most comforting thing so far. I get my port and 1st treatment Monday and can't say I am not scared. Since I am still in pain from my surgery, feels like a double wammy! Tried acupuncture on Friday and it was very nice. I am hoping it helps through the chemo. Out to dinner with friends tonight and then Sunday, my daughter will cook Sunday dinner. We all need as much support as is possible! Thinking of you all through this. Hang in!
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hello everyone, I am starting chemo on 11/9, I am finishing up my Brachytherapy on Monday. A little stressed, super scared. I will be on a cocktail of taxol and Herceptin for 12 weeks, then Herceptin for 9 months. I had my port placement on 10/28 and it is extremely tender and somewhat still painful. Is this normal or maybe it's just me, everything about this diagnosis has been very difficult. Thanks for all the suppor
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Hi November Chemoladies.
I have read some of the most recent posts here of those who have recently gone thru chemo and everybody seems to be fine except for some minor discomforts. As for me, day 3 after my chemo, no SE except a little loss of appetite. I try to get around it by eating less but more frequent and drinking liquids. I dont know if it is ok but i am gonna try to drink SILK organic soya milk today. Been taking my anti nausea Placil, nexium for acid reflux, iberet for iron, vit c and B12 and this is my last day for dexamethasone. Trying to get as much sleep as i can too.
I will continue to pray for all of you.
gmmiph
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Thanks for starting this thread! It is very active and I'll need to go back and read through more carefully. I start AC+T on Nov 9th. I'm tense. I've done a few things to prepare--buying mouth wash, some head coverings, getting prescriptions filled. I'm getting my hair cut short, short before the first dose so the falling out isn't as dramatic. My MO said no vitamins except D3. I am not getting a port to start. They said they'll see how my veins do. That was a surprise, how hard the treatment is on your veins. I didn't know that veins that get damaged do not recover. That's one aspect that friends who've had breast cancer have not talked about--although none of my friends was triple negative.
I've posted on a couple of other threads on this site. The site & all those posting provide great information and support.
I wish all of you the best possible outcomes as you go through this--especially those with young children. I admire you all for summoning the energy that day-to-day living will take.
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Good evening all!
Aterry, welcome! Adriamycin can be very tough on the veins, it's pretty toxic stuff. I'm also on AC/T. I have very small veins, so it wasn't even an option for me. I have a port. As you get through the first treatment, the nurses can see how you'll do through the veins.
Gmmiph, I'm 98% ER positive, so I can't do the soy products, but I do like almond milk. Glad you're faring well!
Pink91316, I may private message you on the brachytherapy. I'm interested in that. I'll need radiation after chemo. 25 treatments doesn't sound appealing. Lol. I had a positive lymph node though, so not sure I qualify. My port was a bit sore for about a week, but once they accessed it on 11/2, no more pain for me. I think it just needs a bit to heal. The body can't be happy about having something foreign implanted in us! The diagnosis to treatment phase seems to gain momentum quickly. A lot of us feel like we are caught up in a crazy whirlwind. Occasionally, in weird moments, it'll sink in. Pick yourself up, dust off, and then in Leslie2016's words...Onward!! We do the best we can in those moments;for this, too, shall pass!
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Good morning all. Well, the bone pain from the Neulasta hit me last night...OUCH! top of my spine, across my neck into the bottom of my head. Didn't like that one bit. Took some tylenol, sleep...still tender, but feels a bit better this morning. Hope that's the worse of it? Will it get worse with each treatment? I dunno. More questions to add to the list.
Other than that, I know I've been lucky so far. Can't wait to have a full nights sleep though! Haven't slept through yet.
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That was same exact pain places for me Leslie. I'm feeling much better today though. A bit of pressure left, but not the tingly headache. Hopefully, yours will be short lived too! I think I will venture out today for lunch.
How's everyone else feeling today
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So far so good. I was a little tired yesterday and had a slight headache and indulged in a Netflix marathon. Probably would have helped if I was a bit more active
Still, I managed to wash a load of laundry. So far the help from my husband has been subpar. I almost feel as though he thinks this isn't real. He hasn't once asked me how I am feeling and when our daughter threw a tantrum last night and I asked him if he could take that, he looked at me like I was crazy. I ended up managing the situation by myself all while I had a headache. He never left the couch except to listen in and try to find some fault with my parenting. So, so far chemo has been aces compared to the support from my husband.
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Anyone have neulasta pain taking claritin as well? Just wondering if it's worth it for me to go get some.
Also, anyone taking CoQ10 to help protect against heart damage?
amyemn- so sorry you aren't getting the support you need at home. Does your hubby go with you to the oncologist appts or your chemo appts? Have you thought about getting a therapist involved to explain shit to him? It could be he's in denial. My hubby has been super supportive, but I don't have small kids at home either. Plus, both of our moms died from cancer so this isn't his first rodeo and he knows how deadly cancer can be. (Different cancers BTW)
The rest of you, keep up the good work and keep posting. I swear reading that y'all aren't having horrible, horrible, side effects has given me heart.
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Javamama, you got this!! A lot of it is mind over matter. I have been taking Claritin and did still get headaches. Tylenol will take the edge off, but it can't hurt taking the Claritin. You will feel much better once you've got the first cycle behind you. Once you know what your body will handle, it's easier to say, "this ain't so bad, I can do this!
Amymn, I'm sorry ๐ my husband is supportive, but I'm learning that education is big. I am letting him hear how many of the October ladies have been hospitalized, so he understands how good he has it. Do you have any survivor friends whose husbands could talk to him? Wondering if that might help prompt him to see the light. I'm glad you're feeling decent though. Having to still be the boss of the house may help a little for distraction purposes too. I am very thankful I don't have young kids in the house. My heart goes out to you.
There are a lot of ladies with younger kids this month too. Sending you guys all kinds of love! ๐๐ช๐ผ.
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I'm not taking Claritin because it wasn't suggested to me. I won't take anything at the moment without consent. I'm doing ok with the tylenol.
Amy, I'm sorry you are feeling unsupported. Is it normal for him to act this way with the kids? Or is this new since he figures you are right there so you can deal with it? Whichever, I hope you can find the answer to get him on board. I'm divorced, so I don't have a husband to deal with. Well, I have to deal with the X as far as getting him to get my daughter around town while I can't, but I'm trying to let them do it themselves as much as possible and keep me out of the middle.
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Amyemn, you make me feel better about being a single lady living alone (+ son). Thanks! Sorry you are not getting the support you deserve,though.
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