Truth about Cancer ??

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dancingdiva
dancingdiva Member Posts: 475
edited November 2016 in Stage III Breast Cancer

Anybody listened to these and what did you think?

I just started. So much information.

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  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited April 2015

    I have listened, although it is quite a while ago. Like a lot of "alternative" stuff it strings a bunch of stuff together, then draws conclusions, many of which do not actually fit the actual facts. It is kind of like, "my friend was wearing red pants, was in a car accident, and then the other day, when I was wearing red pants, I was in a car accident, and, the worst part, the police just doesn't want to recognize that red pants cause car accidents."

    I am re-listening right now, and the first guy he has on, G. Edward Griffin, is, according to wiki: G. Edward Griffin (born November 7, 1931) is an American author, lecturer, and filmmaker. He is the author ofThe Creature from Jekyll Island (1994), which promotes conspiracy theories about the Federal Reserve System.[1][2]," and is a lifelong member of the John Birch Society. Nuff said.

  • Mlg1
    Mlg1 Member Posts: 3
    edited September 2016

    I am interested in this too

  • LM070917
    LM070917 Member Posts: 323
    edited September 2016

    yeah I've watched the whole series..i've gone down the conventional complimented by alternative treatment route. I had chemo/rads but I also saw a naturopath during the whole time and tried to support my immune system when it hit its lowest and continue to do so now. I think it enabled me to deal with chemo pretty well and didn't just focus on me physically but mentally.

  • Spence5346
    Spence5346 Member Posts: 1
    edited November 2016

    stage 3 aggressive breast cancer, her2-positive, estrogen negative, progesterone positive. Tumor 11 cm, 2 lymph nodes, attached to chest wall. I have decided to not do surgery/treatments. I am following "Chris beats cancer". What is my life expectancy? Has anyone else gone down this path

  • juneping
    juneping Member Posts: 1,594
    edited November 2016

    i found it pretty informative and it's quite common if you read through the alternative tx. diet, exercise etc....

    i had a conversation with a young friend who is in med school. her parents are both doctors and she told me from what she knows that sometimes cancer is just bad luck. some ppl make it and some don't after tx. and when i further talked about the difference between east and west medicine, she told me it's very different school of trainings. her mom was a doctor in china (no longer practicing i think) and when a friend of hers was going through some symptoms and based on her experience, she thought its TB but none of the result showed that. but when the person went further tests and it's proven her mom was right. her mom came up with the diagnose based on her experience and had absolutely no scientific evidence.

    my point is when the alt route being this popular, it's not just BS but the BS could have mixed with the true messages.

    if you believe conventional, then do the conventional.

    i find ppl who are advocate for conventional but pay attention to alternative and talk down to ppl who wants to do alt are the hypocrites.

    Spence - i would be cautious about your prognosis, it seems very aggressive. you need a TX, be it conventional, be it alternative just not by yourself or some researches that you do on your own. Chris had the surgery then he started a healthy life style afterwards. you could reach out to him and see what he says. but you need a tx from a hospital.

  • dAd
    dAd Member Posts: 94
    edited November 2016

    Interesting thread. However for what's worth, I think the content of The Truth About Cancer is misleading and potentially downright dangerous. This is not to say that there is no place for alternative and natural approaches to cancer treatment and I would recommend a website like Integrative Oncology which blends alternative and conventional treatments.

    For those who are interested here is the link: https://integrativeoncology-essentials.com/about/

  • Rayna_666
    Rayna_666 Member Posts: 24
    edited November 2016

    I listened to this and researched the alternative/natural healing approach. I think there is a lot of truth to it, however I couldn't in my mind justify risking just using that method. I was scared since I am only 33 and had triple negative idc (very aggressive and mine was in my lymph nodes already and insanely fast growing.) Maybe I would've been fine, but I decided to do the conventional approach and use alternative methods in conjunction. To me it made sense as I believe in science and spirituality. I eat almost entirely vegan, try to eat things that are mostly alkaline, meditate, practice qi gong, etc. Among other things. I think I did extremely well with chemotherapy (side effects were bearable and I had a pathological complete response even though I only had 4 of 12 rounds of Taxol.) I feel everyone should search their feelings and see what honestly feels right. I wish I could have refused conventional treatment and been someone who could say they beat cancer naturally, but this is what felt right for me.

  • SSInUK
    SSInUK Member Posts: 245
    edited November 2016

    Spence 5346 please get help, as the other ladies say, in the midst of diagnosis etc you can learn all you can but you can't possibly become in a few weeks or months a lifelong expert in all there is to know or gain experience of how multiple patients respond in order to better understand your particular case. We need guidance through this. But for what it's worth, with Her2 cancer Herceptin and Perjeta are on the cards for you and in my mind they are the nearest medicine has come to a 'natural' approach to our disease in that they're harnessing the body's ability to kill rogue cells. Not quite immunotherapy but targeted at the mutations that have made these cells run wild. Plus these treatments are very very doable, they don't attack the rest of your body. I have many issues with chemo rads etc - in some ways they are primitive approaches and they have a cost. But in some cases I do believethey save lives. Scientists and alternative doctors are coming at the same problem from different ends of a spectrum - there are places they meet in the middle. Without some conventional treatment I fear for you. Best wishes

  • SSInUK
    SSInUK Member Posts: 245
    edited November 2016

    I just read your details and see you are writing for your sister who has 4 children and is in her 40s. Please try to find her. a kind oncologist she can trust. I am angry she has a homeopath trying to take this on, do they have a serious track record in breast cancer? She has the right to make her ow choices but she also has the right to hear the truth from good expert people and I fear she is not. The honest truth is, her prognosis is very grave - as for many of us at stage 3. She needs all the expert help she can get. This must be very hard for you.

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